What are your thoughts on CALLIOPE!? Will she return or not! Would love to know what you think

Imagine Kratos meets his daughter and he breakes out in tears and we see him for the very first time crying

Atreus team up with Calliope game would be interesting to me, I think there is an interesting dynamic that could explore with both Kratos' offspring.

I'm thinking/hoping Atreus will encounter her in his travels in the next sequel. It would be really interesting to witness for sure.

Either she have love for Kratos as savior or hatred for killing and leaving the family behind.

If calliope is still out there somewhere I could only imagine if she realized she’s part god too and was able to manifest some kind of power like Atreus

It‘d be cool if she ended up as a God of another pantheon, maybe as a savior similiar to Kratos, also ending up as a God of War. The story could revolve around Atreus being sad that Calliope is more like Kratos than he is and continue with that dynamic, maybe Atreus and Calliope end up separated from everyone else and during their adventure, Atreus slowly takes over the role Kratos had when Atreus and him were together in the Norse games

Well she still had her physical body in the Alyssiam fields so unlike the other spirits in the field maybe she can leave just like Kratos and Persephone did

“Freya is in fact extremely old” Shots fired 😂

I like the idea of during Loki's travels, word begins to spread of a warrior wielding blades attached to chains & he assumes it is his father, only to cross paths with Calliope which results in a brief battle due to the blades looking similar & assumes something happen to Kratos. Just like how everyone assumes Kratos hurt Faye & took her Axe until he mentions it was a gift from her. Maybe the fight ends with the two coming to realize they are siblings.

I think there is plans for Calliope to return, but not in the way we expect. It could either go that shes still angry at Kratos for abandoning her and destroying greece or shes grown to be a helper of people. Being part god she likely has some powers, even if they are weak. Based on what we know she could be a healing type of god, and maybe she helped the people post God of War III and was raised to a seat of authority, like a queen or some sort. If we do get an Atreus story I believe its likely they will meet, unless we get Kratos returning to Greece first

I would like Atreus to meet his older sister they would definitely get along

Hmm i just reliezed we never found out what type of godly power she possed

I wish that when we get a Atreus spin of I hope we see her in search of her father from hearing about a pale warrior that killed norse gods and meets Atreus now knowing he is her brother and Atreus trying to help her find her dad also not knowing the truth

It would be cool is she did stayed in elysium and stayed at the age of 8. In that way if artreus ever meets her it could be the same dynamic of a older family member taking care of a little younger inexperienced family member like god of war 2018 and ragnarok. Even though she is technically the big sister

I have a completely depressing idea for what they can do with Calliope if she comes back. So my idea is that Calliope gets freed from the Elysium Fields after Kratos kills Hades and has a second chance at life. With a new life Calliope gets her human body back and can now age into an adult. However she is forced to still have the physical scar of her death and unfortunately she hasn't found peace. Why??? Well she is completely broken and traumatized from what happened to her. Logically speaking an 8 year old girl wouldn't be mentally well if she got murder by her own father and then got reunited with him only for him to abandon her without telling her why. When freed Calliope tried to find her mother but Lysandra was in the Asphodel Meadows which is the neutral afterlife for people who lived normal lives. If you don't know people in the Asphodel Meadows are forced to forget there past life/identity and live in tranquility. That means Lysandra lost all her memories and doesn't remember her daughter. This breaks Calliope's heart because she wants to be with her mother but there relationship can never be the same. So now not only did she lose her father but now she lost her mother as well. She's truly alone. Which brings me to Athena eventually finding Calliope and decided to manipulate her because of how vulnerable she is. If she can't use Kratos as a pawn, then surely she can use Calliope. So Athena tells Calliope the truth of her death and the other crimes Kratos's commited. This causes resentment to from towards Kratos and she molds it into hatred and rage. She tells Calliope that Kratos has left Greece and made a new family. That he replaced her. This makes Calliope furious and Athena and encourages her to embrace her anger. Which leads to Calliope down a dark path of wanting to kill her own father and Athena helps Calliope with her goals by training her and giving her Godly power. Tbh I just think it would be poetic if the cycle of violence Kratos tried to break continues. It's a tragic idea that such heavy trauma and lack of support changed a happy little girl into a broken woman. Btw deep down she's still has a good heart but right now she's just deeply hurt.

There's a lot of yellow unexplored questions and swamps of God of war Theories. Yellow is opposite of grey areas. Meaning it's hinted but not really for sure until writers confirm more about the other characters or details

Imagine if Caliope maried someone who originat from egypt or a greek who wants to settle down in egypt (politician, noble, peasent, genral or warior), and we see her in egypt

She'd have been about 14 in Chains of Olympus but was still a child.

great video as usual Jon!!! i think she is still alive somehow too.

Let’s say a prison’s (the underworld/tartarus) wardens die, the inmates escape, there’s no one to keep them contained. Than there’s an orphanage (elysium) whose overseers are gone, the children flee as well. So my theory is, she indeed is outside of elysium and maybe there was some remnant of magic left behind or some godly divine power that allows her to live and age slower, OOOOR variation 2 where she inherited THE ability of Kratos to absorb powers, since you know the draupnir spear is made with his blood, and what does it do, siphon the powers (elements in-game) of the enemies

Another dope gow theory video John Kratos 😅🍻

like u said ghost of sparta is considered a saviour in greece. maybe shes alive and hears about this ghost of sparta and then later find out that he’s kratos and decides to go look for him to hunt him because he killed her and her mother + left her in elysium

Thats like saying Faye is alive because Kratos went into the light when he heard her voice. The Elysium fields is the afterlife for mortals in the ancient greek religion. Anyone who enters can physically interact with the dead but the soul cannot leave unless Hades granted them permission and a body. You only stay long enough for your soul to achieve peace before being cleansed of all memories and reborn into the world. Calliope in all likely hood has been reborn and her memories of Kratos gone forever

My guess is that she will return when Santa Monica studios decides to do Roman Mythology. And that's still years away considering they do Egypt or Japanese before it.

There's still a part of me that wishes that Kratos would find out that he had another son that when Kratos killed his wife and daughter his wife just so happened to be newly pregnant and when died the gods took the baby from Elysium and after the fall of Olympus the remainder gods has him wanting to kill Kratos almost similar to what happened to Deimos

we really need to see greece again

Well maybe with God DNA (I'm taking Viltrumite Blood Logic here) it overwrites other genetics after a certain point. So she could get powers when she found out Kratos was a god and maybe think she could be too. Got a theory for you too. Since Kratos didn't know he was a god as a kid before unlike Atreus, do you think that Kratos didn't fully mature his powers. And maybe could've been more powerful if he did.

Caliope is a muse of Eloquence and Epic Poetry, the muses inspired creation, creativity

it would be nice to see her interact with Atreus as the next DLC or sequal during his travels to find other giants

Great video, I like your Idea of she's got kratos old weapons But it's better to have her own weapon ,As for her divinity ( godly ) I believe that she can be promoted to a full goddess through a process called (apotheosis) by strong being like Zeus or primordials , for her backstory ( since gow3 ) I really like to be a grimdark story , where she faced all the remaining gods who hated her father, such as Athena, Demeter and Dionysius and Iris and other gods, maybe even remaining primordials.

I think that maybe Santa monica should do another DLC so they could cover it up but i feel like him being God of War they show put Tyr and him to travel to the new Greece and get calliope

Calliope would basically be Wonder Woman if she grew up

Since she's more mortal than god, she'd be less powerful and therefore I think the first theory of her just having healing powers just makes sense. She could be the one to play a major role in rebuilding Greece perhaps.

It would be awesome if somehow they could bring her back and see the reaction from atraus seeing his sister for the first time

Is atreus even aware of his sister's existence? I never heard Kratos tell atreus about her?

Plot twist angraboda is caliope

Hey Jon there’s a theory I read somewhere that basically goes like this after the events in god of war 3 calliope leaves the fields and wonders the earth like her father eventually ending up in Egypt and settling there and either changing or being known to the locals and cleopatra and it could be where the next game is centered don’t know but I liked that idea

Calliope being a boss would be insane. Like imagine id she was better than a Valkyrie

Hold on you said she doesn't know that kratos killed her. But in gow 3 or 1 i forgot, there was a flashback of her saying "no father noo" which would mean she do know. But also usually the flashbacks in gow series keep showing him slashing both his wife and child at the same time, Idek anymore lol

One thing I didnt think about until after watching this.... in God of War 2018 Atreus had a sickness that was caused from him not knowing he was a god but living as a mortal.... is that sickness only a thing with the Norse region? Kratos didnt even know he was a god technically until God of War 2 when Athena told him Zeus was his father?? Or didnt even actually become a god as far as he was concerned, until after killing Aries in God of War

Idk if this is how it would work but if Kratos killed Thanatos, the God of death, then would death even be possible anymore because Kratos inherited that role but he is not there anymore.

A lot of people suffered under Zeus and his cruelty. Kratos ended that suffering.

Calli should be a minimum age of 200 years. When I hear "centuries" I always think at least 200 years. It cannot be less than that or it'll be a century. If she's 199 years old she still wouldn't be centuries old.

Plot twist Calliope is the girl in heavenly sword bit of a stretch but I can see the father daughter traits

Great analysis I hope they bring Caliope back❤

Whatever happened to Kratos first wife after she died? Where did she go? It would be cool if they could bring her back in some fashion as well.

I am convinced calliope blew the horn

Athena trains her to the new god of war like ares did to Kratos .

I always thought that the demigods and gods will take the place of those who died. Example, Calliope becomes Persephone version of roman lore. Afrodita turns into Hera.. or something like that

Wait does this mean it possible that Atlas is still holding greek/Roman pantheon ?

Jon how old is freya?

Its been stated multiple times tgat the blades of athena and blades of exile are simply the blades of chaos infused eith first athenas godly power and then later eith athena higher dementional power. Which is why the blades of exile seemed so muvh more powerful. Cuz they were powered by the higher demension.

Calliope is cleopatra and we are going to Egypt next 🔜🔥

Isn't Kratos over 1000 years old currently???🤔

You know if they do bring her back I think she needs to be mad at Kratos and is just as ruthless as the old kratos. And she tries find him in the Norse mythology.

I know it isnt part of greek mythology but wouldnt be cool if she came back as Hel the god of helhiem. I think she wouldnt make a good god of hell especially that she isnt an evil god she could take care of the dead

I hope santa monica returns caliope on the series

If that’s true will Atreus meet his Half-sister?

i hope Sparta and the last Spartan will comeback

I personally think the creators lied about weapons being destroyd becaus one they still glow with theirs magic and two in the scene they are not split in half or something like that if the creators really want the destroy the weapons they could just simply split in half them or just delete the color of weapons and that leads to their is no magic in them

I think she's alive and she is searching for her fother kratos and in gow2018 she blew the horn

Perhaps she could calm people down with her music

Il do you one better instead of the blades of exile what if he hears her song that she played on her floot

You know....they do say that cleopatra was greek....just....food for thought

Well, alive isn't quite the word but...

Is this video an off season april fools joke?

if kratos returns to greece to rebuild do you think callipoe will forgive him for leaving since he did it reluctantly

She wouldn’t have powers considering he was just orator captain of the Sparta army as to his son who he had as a god.

5:00 "Remember to get into the Elysium in the first place, which is pretty much heaven in the Greek world, you have to have a pure heart with no hatred inside of you. And I think EVEN THOUGH she is at a young age I think that she just is innately is just a loving person." Redundant grammar aside, why would you phrase this in such a way that would suggest that young people are not innately loving?? Using "even though" suggests that her loving nature would be directly contradictory to her nature as a child. Bro, you need a writer or a proof-reader or something. Make your words intentional and clear. This video feels more like a chaotic stream of consciousness because you cannot stop your run on sentences. Slow down, think of what you want to say, write it, and then support it. Do you need someone to read and correct your scripts?

What is the name of the luluby in the background please 🙏

Image freya is calliope she is like 1000years old and kratos 1055 and kratos was 40 at the end of gow 3 so IT could be posible

What happened to the spirit of Kratos wife after he killed her? I really need to replay the original games

Like Atreus would she be sick not knowing Kratos was a god or did she know kratos was a god when he joined her, I know someone knows what I mean . Would she know she’s a god ? Would she not get sick ? How does she live on

Blades of exile aren't left behind.

I got to say, I think it’s way more interesting if we never see calliope again. Kratos’ sacrifice of leaving his daughter is way more impactful if it was truly his last chance getting to see his daughter.

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Honestly i don't want GOW without Chris Judge. No one will even come close to his performance. They should just move on to new ip's. Let GOW rest

I disagree. Kratos had no godly powers until they were gifted to him Zue’s son or not. Also not all of Kratos’s powers came from the gods or the Titans. His daughter was born before a lot of things happened so were she might have some of Zues’s blood she was 1 dead at a young age and 2 not conceived after kratos had been through all that he had endured. Plus his son is half giant and giants have their own abilities.

It’s not a theory…. It’s fan fiction.

How can somebody who died age? Not possible.

I would love to see calliope return as a villain😊

But how could she be alive we all saw her in the elysium fields which is the the Greek after life that you can only get into if your DEAD. Interesting theory but i Don't get it

What about lysandra

Could Caliope become Hela 🤔 and maybe rule Helheimes

She is not coming out of elysium.... Kratos had to ride Persephone out. How is caliope ab 8 year old supposed to leave elysium.

nah I don't think this theory is plausible, Calliope is dead. Plus, the vases of Kratos' rampage in Greece doesn't seem like they were picturing him like a hero...

Elysium is literally heaven for the greeks... how would she be alive?? She isnt like kratos. She died. And her soul lives on in Elysium. And the underwold and elysium isnt arent connected not in actual greek mythology anyway...

OMG that would be best❤ but also can ruin the game but anyway IT whould be amazing

But wouldn’t she be part god tho 🤔🤔

It would be a Roman pantheon Calliope would be a part of if she were still alive and had awakened her godhood.

I disagree. Kratos is half god, half mortal, yet he consistantly over powers gods, titans, primordials. And unlike thoose mfs, kratos has died three times while they died only once. I bet kratos's daughter would have inharited this to some extent.

How is Calliope god? Didnt kratos make her before he was made a god XD

Mythologies are in seperate universes they arent just seperate countries

I hate to break it to you but to find piece is to pass on 🤦‍♂️

This is reaching. We don't even know if age is a factor in Elysium. And Calliope never killed family so she is not cursed with gaias immortality. Kratos also had to commit "sins" to leave Elysium. Sure hades died and souls were released from hades but perhaps those were yet to be judged. Because cronos was still trapped after hades death. Along with Hephaestus. I think that if you're soul was already laid to rest or cast to tarturas you were still stuck. But those who where waiting didn't know where to go therefore retuning to the surface.

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