LMAOOO

Most people don't really understand the manosphere stuff. I once read a few pick up websites and books together with a female friend and we both agreed that some of the core principles are actually just 'redressing an imbalance' of male low self esteem. Yes, you might be reflexively thinking 'aren't those books more about confidence tricks and suchlike'. However, the point is that this is not entirely the case. For, example, one manosphere female attracting tip; not reflexively saying excessively negative things about yourself when on a date is (apparently) something the modern woman knows by instinct yet this is clearly not so well understood by men (perhaps because the male on male culture is revels in brutal forms of humour). Also, remember, sometimes these seemingly 'surface' techniques do actually address something deeper. In this case, disciplining your internal monologue (about yourself) can build genuine self esteem, even though it is a 'technique' of sorts. Many manosphere sites recommend being healthy, in good shape and programming your subconscious mind with various positive scripts. Once again, none of these things can be seen as particularly shallow. They are ideas which the modern woman knows will make her more appealing, but the modern man might have forgotten. Even the more 'technique' driven side of flirting with women such as 'be cocky funny', 'have a sense of humour' 'negging' etc. I would suggest there is an unnatural but also a natural side to this. There is also a naturalness via unatural learning aspect to it, as with many things in life. For example, I do not particularly like the concept of 'negging' (nor being cocky) but men who are grounded and have a healthy sense of reality know that no woman or man is beyond seeing themselves in a humorous light. When a person is seeing you as a human, you are less likely to be spooked out by them, be they male or female. Therefore 'kind negging' is not really a technique, it is something which occurs now and then in real interaction. If some men don't realise this, having the 'technique' handed on a spoon to them, might make themselves see the obvious. Some of these manosphere dating sites also, to get across their methodology, borrow from comedic techniques such as lateral and associative thinking under pressure which is absolutely not inherently superficial. Again, if you are a wallflower who doesn't realise why you can't spit anything out when around women (or men), these manosphere blogs are showing you things which are used in the corporate world, in business, in marketing schools etc to coerce the subconscious mind to fluency. A lot of people these days lack general fuzzy logic. Western society itself sometimes can be quite 'deontology seeking' at times when fuzzy logic would serve them better. To apply some fuzzy logic to this topic, you don't have to see the manosphere so cynically if you take a broader view and accept it what it has to offer within a wider gestalt. It's often, for those who dip into it, just a bridge to psychically rebalancing and returning to timid men a bunch of concepts which are obvious to women and confident people. (Peterson hints at this by saying that wallflowers could benefit from a degree of psychopathy, though you could express this in less pejorative ways too. Not that I am criticising his use of terminology, it is perfectly valid) Once these timid men realise that they can have success with women, then they can ask themselves more specific questions about exactly which type of woman would suit them in the long haul. 'Genuine competance' is clearly an aspect of attraction between both men and women, but I don't think any aspect of male dating advice would contradict this. If you look at ancient myths and narratives there are many heroic characters who were wild, free, confident and conquering and who are both lovers and fighters until they aren't. Even Shiva, one of the highest deities in the Hindu pantheon was this way. He is said to find the woman who allows him to express his broad and complex nature whilst being with her. The 'how to attract women' aspect of the manosphere, to reiterate, if we apply some fuzzy logic, has its part within the wider gestalt. Indeed, many men leave the manosphere, one hopes, having grasped the deeper side such human psychology centered milieu. Namely, develop a genuine connection to your subconscious mind in a way which makes you an overall life winner.

@@tommckellen4289 omg you wrote an entire essay 😂

@@baltimorewhisperer lollllllllllllll

Foreign nation should give him license if Canada denies him for political reasons

Where can I get this book? I only found one or two sites that look like a scam..

@@ioannisiatridis2579That’s because it is a scam. Any time you see a comment expressing disbelief over how people haven’t read a certain book, it’s almost always a scam. You’ll see it a lot on finance/self improvement videos.

​@@ioannisiatridis2579it is a scam. Probably the OP is a bot

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Evolution of Desire by David Buss is your best bet in this domain.

nobody actually think that about him. it's the cancel culture AKA media trying to brainwash ppl as usual cause he doesn't fit their narrative

They call him that because most mainstream media outlets endless vilify and lie about him. They are radicalising otherwise intelligent young people into thinking that saying normal things about human behaviour and desires = problematic. They are basically scum.

Too true bro

And the system wants us weak!!!

That's so true. It's like all positive. People completely misunderstand what he's actually saying.

Thank you Kate That’s a powerful and inspiring thing to say. I imagine you’re awesome 😊

What a wonderful woman you are, and very brave by the current standard. Thank you.

What a wonderful woman you are, and brave by the current standard. Thank you

I love your comment, as good man are why we have this world functioning the way it does and good fathers make for a wonderful happy wife and children. And a roof over their children heads , so many in this world over look great man, and we never should as they are magnificent when in their masculine power of strength , and hard work, and good principles, that's when they should always be head of the table and everything thing right happens right for his wife and his children,

Thank you very much Kate. You can't imagine how encouraging and heartwarming such a message is. This society shouts so often at us that men are the cause of every problem and the reason for everything that goes wrong and that society would be better without us. It's awesome to know that there are still women out there that are balanced, secure and confident enough in themselves to understand that men are not the enemy, they are part of team needed to build a strong family and thus a strong society. God bless you Lady.

He looks like he's dying

very wholesome isnt it

Most people don't really understand the manosphere stuff. I once read a few pick up websites and books together with a female friend and we both agreed that some of the core principles are actually just 'redressing an imbalance' of male low self esteem. Yes, you might be reflexively thinking 'aren't those books more about confidence tricks and suchlike'. However, the point is that this is not entirely the case. For, example, one manosphere female attracting tip; not reflexively saying excessively negative things about yourself when on a date is (apparently) something the modern woman knows by instinct yet this is clearly not so well understood by men (perhaps because the male on male culture is revels in brutal forms of humour). Also, remember, sometimes these seemingly 'surface' techniques do actually address something deeper. In this case, disciplining your internal monologue (about yourself) can build genuine self esteem, even though it is a 'technique' of sorts. Many manosphere sites recommend being healthy, in good shape and programming your subconscious mind with various positive scripts. Once again, none of these things can be seen as particularly shallow. They are ideas which the modern woman knows will make her more appealing, but the modern man might have forgotten. Even the more 'technique' driven side of flirting with women such as 'be cocky funny', 'have a sense of humour' 'negging' etc. I would suggest there is an unnatural but also a natural side to this. There is also a naturalness via unatural learning aspect to it, as with many things in life. For example, I do not particularly like the concept of 'negging' (nor being cocky) but men who are grounded and have a healthy sense of reality know that no woman or man is beyond seeing themselves in a humorous light. When a person is seeing you as a human, you are less likely to be spooked out by them, be they male or female. Therefore 'kind negging' is not really a technique, it is something which occurs now and then in real interaction. If some men don't realise this, having the 'technique' handed on a spoon to them, might make themselves see the obvious. Some of these manosphere dating sites also, to get across their methodology, borrow from comedic techniques such as lateral and associative thinking under pressure which is absolutely not inherently superficial. Again, if you are a wallflower who doesn't realise why you can't spit anything out when around women (or men), these manosphere blogs are showing you things which are used in the corporate world, in business, in marketing schools etc to coerce the subconscious mind to fluency. A lot of people these days lack general fuzzy logic. Western society itself sometimes can be quite 'deontology seeking' at times when fuzzy logic would serve them better. To apply some fuzzy logic to this topic, you don't have to see the manosphere so cynically if you take a broader view and accept it what it has to offer within a wider gestalt. It's often, for those who dip into it, just a bridge to psychically rebalancing and returning to timid men a bunch of concepts which are obvious to women and confident people. (Peterson hints at this by saying that wallflowers could benefit from a degree of psychopathy, though you could express this in less pejorative ways too. Not that I am criticising his use of terminology, it is perfectly valid, coming from his clinical know how) Once these timid men realise that they can have success with women, then they can ask themselves more specific questions about exactly which type of woman would suit them in the long haul. 'Genuine competance' is clearly an aspect of attraction between both men and women, but I don't think any aspect of male dating advice would contradict this. If you look at ancient myths and narratives there are many heroic characters who were wild, free, confident and conquering and who are both lovers and fighters until they aren't. Even Shiva, one of the highest deities in the Hindu pantheon was this way. He is said to find the woman who allows him to express his broad and complex nature whilst being with her. The 'how to attract women' aspect of the manosphere, to reiterate, if we apply some fuzzy logic, has its part within the wider gestalt. Indeed, many men leave the manosphere, one hopes, having grasped the deeper side such human psychology centered milieu. Namely, develop a genuine connection to your subconscious mind in a way which makes you an overall life winner.

@@tommckellen4289 Dude get a life

@@lartdesenrichir6871 Why do you think it takes a significant chunk out of my life to write that?

.... Why Jordan why, if you dont give them attention then they will give all the attention they can give to anyone who wants it, on the last breath of *Child* *Support* or whatever it is *That* *by* *Marrying* *gives* *them* *50%* *without* *having* *to* *work* *A* *DAY* *IN* *LIFE.* Other then being taught how PRECIOUS THAT THING IS in between their legs... Small P Energy? more like *SMALL* *V* *ENERGY* LoL You are taking it too seriously, can you save something that *DOESNT* *WORK* *TO* *LIVE?* Thats just *Liability.....* Is what I am saying wrong? And yall say *HONESTY* *IS* *KEY* *2* *FRUITFUL* *RELATIONSHIP*

I dont even think thats funny...dumb people who cannot understand the real deep meaning of those sentences just laugh

Most people don't really understand the manosphere stuff. I once read a few pick up websites and books together with a female friend and we both agreed that some of the core principles are actually just 'redressing an imbalance' of male low self esteem. Yes, you might be reflexively thinking 'aren't those books more about confidence tricks and suchlike'. However, the point is that this is not entirely the case. For, example, one manosphere female attracting tip; not reflexively saying excessively negative things about yourself when on a date is (apparently) something the modern woman knows by instinct yet this is clearly not so well understood by men (perhaps because the male on male culture is revels in brutal forms of humour). Also, remember, sometimes these seemingly 'surface' techniques do actually address something deeper. In this case, disciplining your internal monologue (about yourself) can build genuine self esteem, even though it is a 'technique' of sorts. Many manosphere sites recommend being healthy, in good shape and programming your subconscious mind with various positive scripts. Once again, none of these things can be seen as particularly shallow. They are ideas which the modern woman knows will make her more appealing, but the modern man might have forgotten. Even the more 'technique' driven side of flirting with women such as 'be cocky funny', 'have a sense of humour' 'negging' etc. I would suggest there is an unnatural but also a natural side to this. There is also a naturalness via unatural learning aspect to it, as with many things in life. For example, I do not particularly like the concept of 'negging' (nor being cocky) but men who are grounded and have a healthy sense of reality know that no woman or man is beyond seeing themselves in a humorous light. When a person is seeing you as a human, you are less likely to be spooked out by them, be they male or female. Therefore 'kind negging' is not really a technique, it is something which occurs now and then in real interaction. If some men don't realise this, having the 'technique' handed on a spoon to them, might make themselves see the obvious. Some of these manosphere dating sites also, to get across their methodology, borrow from comedic techniques such as lateral and associative thinking under pressure which is absolutely not inherently superficial. Again, if you are a wallflower who doesn't realise why you can't spit anything out when around women (or men), these manosphere blogs are showing you things which are used in the corporate world, in business, in marketing schools etc to coerce the subconscious mind to fluency. A lot of people these days lack general fuzzy logic. Western society itself sometimes can be quite 'deontology seeking' at times when fuzzy logic would serve them better. To apply some fuzzy logic to this topic, you don't have to see the manosphere so cynically if you take a broader view and accept it what it has to offer within a wider gestalt. It's often, for those who dip into it, just a bridge to psychically rebalancing and returning to timid men a bunch of concepts which are obvious to women and confident people. (Peterson hints at this by saying that wallflowers could benefit from a degree of psychopathy, though you could express this in less pejorative ways too. Not that I am criticising his use of terminology, it is perfectly valid, coming from his clinical know how) Once these timid men realise that they can have success with women, then they can ask themselves more specific questions about exactly which type of woman would suit them in the long haul. 'Genuine competance' is clearly an aspect of attraction between both men and women, but I don't think any aspect of male dating advice would contradict this. If you look at ancient myths and narratives there are many heroic characters who were wild, free, confident and conquering and who are both lovers and fighters until they aren't. Even Shiva, one of the highest deities in the Hindu pantheon was this way. He is said to find the woman who allows him to express his broad and complex nature whilst being with her. The 'how to attract women' aspect of the manosphere, to reiterate, if we apply some fuzzy logic, has its part within the wider gestalt. Indeed, many men leave the manosphere, one hopes, having grasped the deeper side such human psychology centered milieu. Namely, develop a genuine connection to your subconscious mind in a way which makes you an overall life winner.

@@tommckellen4289 Also, adopt a meat-only lunatic diet like Peterson and whatever you do, NEVER go near apple cider. 😂

That too

Pre selection and social proof . Read the unplugged alpha by Richard cooper

Read the Art of Seduction by Robert Greene

@@SmallsGang_773 its mostly bs, read the unplugged alpha by richard cooper

@@RR-et6zp you sound like the engineer... The art of seduction teaches you not to be argumentative and be smooth and seductive.

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Same. I'm studying bioengineering and there's a lot of female students, but with my friend we send them to hell (with arguments) when they want to keep up with some technical debates lol

Yep. Cinfirmed. We are hopeless...

I agree, as an engineer

Lmao I'm a engineering student and people always act like it's something special.. tbh it's was easier than I thought coming from a harder job In welding

Yep. 30 year old engineer with everything going for me. Still can't figure out how to convert the success into a relationship lol. Dates here and there, but not relationships.

And he's right on with them too... lol...

Same story happened to my college nerdy self of mine countless times - was too late to figure it out.

as an engineer its funny and true... sadly

@@kuko6 how can you relate to this? curious to know

yea but at the same time they're tripling your salary bro

There's not enough money in this world.....

P.S. that was a lovely comment about Mrs. Peterson "I chased her for a long time then she caught me"

Maybe if you could touch the hem of his garment?

I actually went to one of his talks, they're really rubbish, you can barely hear or see him, but worth it just for one visit

@@raulpaulinho Do you think that might've had something to do with the seat you bought?

@@IVLxJAK2 no, I'm not gonna lie, I love dr Jordan Peterson, but seeing him live was a massive disappointment, I found it hard to listen to him and I couldn't see his face. but if you want to just see him in person then it's worth it cos it only costs £60

@@raulpaulinho Seems like you got a trash seat lol, thats not his fault lmao.

Definitely agreeable face proportions and bone structure and levels of body hair, oh and don't forget the requirements down below.

You sure it wasn't sun tzu?

Still engineers are single af.

@@pizzaparkerhotdogmaguire3225 😂😂Oww man God bless you, you made me laugh!

Attracted to what kind of guys? Can you elaborate. Like guys who rode bikes, sounded like they enjoyed life more than responsibility, played the bad boy role?

Did you contact the local police for the battered woman?

Mother Nature has devised the most effective and direct ways to ensure the survival of the species and one of those is to fall in love with the person we believe has the best genes and can guarantee the best offspring. Young women are attracted to self-confident and charming men because they appear to have excellent genetic structure. There is nothing wrong with that as these are very powerful mechanisms forged by evolution. Mating with a loving and respectful person is another kettle of fish.

@@fabiofanucciThe mistake Mother nature made was, she didn't take narcissism into consideration. You see, the 90% percentage of women who claim they been fooled by men who only portrayed as the productive, best genes guys. It's because some men, who are Charming and self confident, but their confidence doesn't come from skill or talent, but simply narcissism.

@@kaberigomes2117 I understand your temptation to define this natural tendency as an error, but we should all accept certain mechanisms and behaviors that have their roots in biology. If young women are so attracted to the narcissists then there will be some good (biological) reason. For example, it occurs to me that narcissists are able to defend themselves very well and this alone is no small thing. Many men are as nice as they are unable to protect themselves, let alone others. Furthermore, charming men are often also beautiful, a trait that predicts the goodness of genes and they become very self-confident and narcissistic also because they perceive the physical attraction they exert on women. We should all humbly take these behaviours, without giving them a moral label.

but it cuts both ways.

you might be able to revoke his psychology license, but you'll never be able to revoke his rizzology license

Using the word rizz is neither funny nor helps with the women thing.

@@fairshareofdrownedsouls L opinion

@@fairshareofdrownedsouls L opinion

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That’s an excellent way to put it. I’m 30 and have only just become used to the idea of putting in at least some degree of work on myself every single day because it’s just what’s required regardless of how you feel

If he has his way, the world will NOT be a better place.

Why is that? Is it because he won't allow the government to control his speech?

Too bad Peterson the lying Nazi con artist isn't one of them.

It’s precious

I’m trying so bloody hard my guy. I have anti depressants for my anxiety because otherwise this world is just too overwhelming for me. But once I get on the meds I should be a-okay. I have a job at least, gonna save the money and try to improve myself either going back to school or a trade, and continuous workouts. It’s just frustrating when things get in the way like anxiety or the family holding you back or whatever.

@@GoldenMushroom64 good. At least you are trying to move forwards which is a start. First port of call should be to get to a stage where you can ditch AD's as they really fuck you up in the long run. Any idea why you get such insane anxiety?

You are hopeless

Well... who cares?

Are male engineers able to talk to female engineers without an issue since they are both engineers?

Amen

It’s never too late man. Hard to say for me, I am though exactly 20 years younger and made very bad decisions in the past 3 years and I wish I could show my 15 year old self Jordan’s lectures. But I just have to get up and start

@@tomaskysela9389 well I'd tell my 22 year old self the same thing, better to fail and learn from it than just wonder what if for the rest of your life. And Jordan is right competence/confidence goes a long way. Hope you learn a lot from this man and good luck :)

@@jameseyk1 Thank you very much. I wish you the best too. By the way what helped me with anxiety was sports. I’m not sure how it goes for you, but moving my body around even when I don’t feel like it always makes me a bit euphoric after.. Hope you will do well.

well its not to late. also i think alan watts is better for anxiety issues. check him up when u got the time

A 40 year old dude who is attractive and has things together should have no trouble finding a woman in here mid to late 20s who wants to start a family.

I bet you've read the full Rational male series. Takes one to know one.

I think it depends on how you "chase" a woman. I believe in the concept of courtship, and no matter how much red pill content out there is that tells you that the man is the prize, I wholeheartedly still believe that women are the prize as they are the gatekeepers to creating new life. What's missing in dating advice for both men and women in the world today is the word "good" before the word "man" or "woman". If you meet a good woman, who shares your values and respects herself enough that she doesn't sexually objectify herself to the world, I would say she is the prize no matter how you look at it, if you are a good man. Real social skills are learned in real-life interactions with women when it comes to dating. Social media has distorted those skills and now people want instant gratification. Real relationships rely on observing, spotting, and reacting productively to what is not being texted, messaged, posted in your timeline, or even through video calls. Knowing how to navigate to what is not being said is what is called a connection to your partner, and it won't happen if you rely on social media. It is something you build by physically being with your partner and experiencing things together. I consume a lot of red pill content as well, and I believe they make a lot of sense. But what sticks out to me when they talk about relationships is that they discuss it like it's an ongoing transaction when it needs to be willfully reciprocal. Radical feminists have become more than materialistic in their view of men, men should not behave the same if red pill believes that women are not expected to have value financially, otherwise men will look at women as mere commodities to acquire and trade. If you approach a good woman, "chase" her with respect, fully aware of your boundaries as the stronger sex which automatically makes you a potential threat, when you "chase" but have wisdom and humility in you to know when you should give up, I think this is a more honorable method of trying to find a partner in life. You don't treat it like a game and instead approach it with sincerity, seriousness, and generosity. It will be hard I think, but it has always been hard to find a good man or woman to live the rest of your life with. Just like I believe there are good men out there, I still believe there are good women out there as well. They just need to look for one another in the right places, which definitely means not in nightclubs.

@@parasoul26 I thought red pill believed that women are the prize and are born with value because they can create life, and men are born worthless/ valueless. So men need to build themselves up to be higher value than the mass majority of men, then they become the prize to women. Since they also believe women all chase the top 10-20% of men, that are the "prizes". So since women chase she's 10-20% of men, building yourself up to be a high value man will cause you to be chased.

​@@iceman4094 Logically it makes sense, that's why I also watch a lot of red pill content to gauge whether humbling these modern delusional women is starting to work. Building yourself up and achieving is absolutely correct and is needed advice for our young men. It is also true that the top percent of high achieving men are the "prize". But people NEED to put it into context. If it was for the sexual marketplace, absolutely the top percent men are the prize. But for solid, traditional relationships where genuine love is present, they are not at the apex. For us "regular people(the overwhelming majority)" who lived in a two parent household and grew up with values, our model for relationships has always been our own parents and/or grandparents. They were not at the top percent of anything. Just regular people. Think of it this way, take the good and throw away the bad from any idea being espoused, whether red or blue pill, left or right. In short, think for yourself. That's the first. Second, red pill criticizes women whenever they ask for traditional men when these modern women themselves are not traditional. Ask yourself if you truly want a traditional woman. Why? Because if you do, then you need to be a traditional man. It is a two way street. Now if you are looking for a good woman, the highest likelihood is that she is a traditional woman. Bold statement I know, that's why I said "most likely". Now if you want a good woman, you should know that a good woman will never chase a man. A good woman will look at a man, firstly make sure the man is not a threat to her safety, evaluate him, know more about him for a period time until she knows his values and if those values align with hers. A good woman who values herself will never give herself to any man easily, even to a top percent man. So the reality is that men actually DO need to chase if men want to marry good women to bear their children. But like I said in my previous comment, make the approach and "chase" with some class and honor to take your Ls with dignity so that you won't be ashamed to try again until you find your match.

​@@parasoul26 I've been out of the dating scene for decades, thank God. I don't know all the current lingo but if this philosophy is working for you, then that's great. Whatever works best for the individual. The great thing is this, in whatever manner you approach relationship, if the philosophy has been honed and matured, it will auto-exclude the women/men who are not a good match for you. The rejection should come early (from either party), the rejection is more easily accepted (your philosophy has done the work for you and IT has been rejected) and that's less time wasted. It's also more accurate...you won't end up chasing only your attraction when the values are misaligned. Or (arguably) worse; settling when the values may align but there's no chemistry/attraction on your part.

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Been a firefighter in a big city for 35 years. You speak the truth.

In the face of inflation we can’t afford to do low paying volunteer work if we want to be able to afford a family

@@fletchong4110 well that's why he said to do it as soon as you can, so you have enough time to do everything else later or while you're doing it cus you sure as hell wouldn't do that many things at the same time when you're old

Don't you need a driver's license?

You might like this older one, too, it's funny. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/abhdaJmJ1JnVp3k.html

@@solaveritas2 also good haha mostly the truth can be so funny