Advising patients to approach demons with curiosities is a very very fine line. My ayahuasca experience had great lessons, yes. But it was the most terrifying thing I ever experienced. Truly makes you question the reality and harsh truth of what those entities are and while he says they cannot harm you physically.. my oh my is that naïve, it can leave lasting affects. Some believe permanently, and possessively.

My first real mushroom trip 13 grams of fresh mushrooms. suddenly found myself in a world of fractals and melting objects, nothing was real anymore, all impressions amplified 100 times more. Definitely one of my craziest experience

Given that we know nothing about consciousness, I wouldn’t be so quick to conclude that demons in a trip are just a hallucination.

0:00: 🧪 The video discusses a study that compared the effects of psilocybin and methylphenidate in naive participants under blinded conditions. 5:30: 🔬 The speaker discusses a comparative pharmacology study comparing the effects of psilocybin to other compounds. 15:00: 😨 The study found that about 30% of volunteers experienced extreme fear or anxiety during the session, despite being selected for openness and curiosity. 9:38: 🎶 Volunteers are prepared for up to 8 hours before a psychedelic session, during which they listen to selected classical music. 19:58: 😱 The speaker encourages curiosity and interest in the terrifying experiences induced by psilocybin, rather than fighting or reifying them. Recap by Tammy AI

I suffer from anxiety + got panic attacks in the most inconvenient of places, when driving, getting into a hot shower, anything could trigger a panic attack. I started micro-dosing shrooms about 3 years ago. My anxiety eased a lot. One eve I took 2grams and went to bed. I didn't trip or anything but since that day I have not had a single panic attack and I never had to use shrooms again. It was the mental reset I needed.

20:00 this reminds me of when I was a child I was afraid there was a monster under the bed. I looked down and saw a hand and decided punched it. Nothing but rug. I learned to confront fear instead of running from it.

I need a shrink so bad right now I’m a ex marine with ptsd and a lot of other things wrong been through 4 combat tours dr Peterson we need you so bad for the veterans

This is amazing. Love the detailed questions and investigation that Jordan does.

Interesting! Michael Knowles had an interview about 6 months ago if I am not mistaken, with a Christian that took mushrooms, and his story about the demons appearing is quite compelling! The "demons" were complaining that he was doing good things by saving souls and yet he was "eating from their table".

I love the movie, A Beautiful Mind, because it's from a true story about a smart guy that realizes that he is being taken over by schizophrenia and begins to take back control of his life by confronting the figures that were haunting him and learns to live with them and he returns to a normal life

Psychedelic's definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression,I would like to try them again but it's just so hard to source here

Mr Peterson, Thankyou thanks and Ta for everything you do to make the world feel a little softer. love from Australia

I love how Jordan Peterson can take any subject and make it the most interesting thing that has ever been discussed. 🤔

I just caught this. I love when Peterson covers psychedelic subjects. Roland Griffiths is a super legit researcher too.

My first time taking mushrooms was when I was 17 and I was fed mushrooms by some older people in there 30's. I was also drinking all night. I had a horrible death trip. The interesting thing was I still had a strange clarity the next day that comes with a normal good trip. I wasn't afraid to try them again a year later with a friend who treated it more like a shamanic ritual with ambient music and I've done them maybe 4 times since then. I'm 37 now and it's been over ten years since my last trip. They are the most amazing thing that I don't play with mushrooms at all. They are for serious healing only. You have to be prepared to dissolve your ego. It's an amazing experience when done in the right environment.

This was great! Would love to see the whole conversation!

I have never had a bad experience on psilocybin. I would be very uncomfortable laying on a couch next to people that are not tripping with a blindfold on listening to music that I don't like for 8 hours. I would not do this. Sounds like torture.

I had to click this as soon as I read "Unknowing Subjects Taking Magic Mushrooms" as it happened to me. Back in the early 90's a friend offered to make a cup of tea for me and two other mates but didn't bother to tell us what he made it with. I drank it, not having the heart to tell him it tasted like crap and went to bed after I'd finished it. I was sleeping ok but started hearing this loud banging which woke me up and as I opened my eyes there seemed to be a very tall shadow figure pointing at me, to say I shat my pants is an understatement. I curled up in a ball and hid beneath my sheets until I plucked up the courage to run out of the house and sat in the back garden while it rained until the sun came up. Not a good idea to freak someone out on mushy's when they don't know what they're on.

Dr Peterson. You are "the best among us". We continue to learn from you on a daily basis and only pray to achieve a modicum of your integreity, in our lifetimes. You are stronger and wiser than most of us combined and we only hope that we can bring forth a pinch of what you express that we each can achieve, on our own. The ultimate love for you and yours.

thoroughly enjoyed that, especially the bit on facing demons. Have heard similar approach suggested for resolving nightmares, especially recurring ones. Worked for me a few times.

Absolutely fascinating. I had a cancer diagnosis 2 1/2 years ago. I was given a six month survival probability if I didn’t have treatment versus possibly five years with treatment. I chose no treatment. I’ve been considering taking psilocybin for a few months now and am trying to compare my cancer fear against the fear of a monster I may meet on a psilocybin trip. I’m grappling with it.

In today's climate I expect medical tests done by force on unwilling members of the public, and anyone who speaks out against it gets arrested.

Exactly my experience. Started with seeing Green Goblin Mask faces made of Geometry. Ended up learning about the need to not feel guilty. Ironically, part of the trip was to not feel guilty about seeing the demons (because you were naughty and took the substance).

Well, the first rule of administering or taking these substances is that you NEVER administer these substances to someone without their knowledge. Period. Cheers.

Jordan asks all the questions you would want to ask. I love him.

I've suffered from severe anxiety, panic attacks and clinical depression (the kind that can kill) for my entire life and nothing has ever helped like psylocibin. That said, the dose is an important factor, I've done 5g before but it had a lesser overall benefit than 1/5 of that amount usually does. For the true psychonaut, have at it but in my case 1g to 2g is more than enough and allows me to retain some level of functionality. Hyperspace is a wild place but it does not in my case confer the benefit that I am looking for. Benefits for me have been in the form of permanent changes that have allowed me to leave behind 30+ years of mental and spiritual problems, I still get sad and anxious but it is manageable now, it doesn't paralyze me and shut my life down. Strangely, they also reacquainted me with God in a personal way. In this unique substance I see only the benevolence of nature, it is a gift and it is meant to heal.

Walking through a million lightning bugs at night while using a dot was epic beautiful. Walking through forest at night in the same state I had to remind myself the faces in the leaves of the trees weren't real, just my mind hyperactivity identifying the familiar image of faces but it was actually just the leaves of the trees.

Jordan hitting my feels going ham on music and dance.

I've always wondered why the end game boss in mythology is a dragon.

Although it's been many years since I've partaken in psychedelics, I've always agreed and advised that one should be in a positive State of mind and void of any emotional turmoil before participating in that type of experience

A terrifying but beautiful breaktrough experiece with DMT and the struggle of not "letting go" (cause it felt like dying) was so intense and SO scary but once I did was so immensly beautiful & peaceful. THE most important learning experience of my life in so many ways.

Where's all the ethical scrutiny of the vax?

So,,,, there's one NDE you might find interesting. The guy took mushrooms, and went on a journey that changed his life forever. He left his body and immediately got swooped up into a heated debated between Demons and Angels. He was in the center of this experience as they FIERCELY debated who gets to take him. The demons argued that he ate from their table, and the Angels (and Christ) stood in his defense. And at the end, Christ chased the demons away, telling them, this guy belong to Him. and Christ plainly told the guy, comforting him, "let's not try this again" and returned him to his body. (he almost died).

This episode clip is chock full of quotable moments. Absolutely love it!

I think I thought of the best quote to describe Jordan. "He's a Rockstar in the band of truth."

It's funny you guys relate this stuff cause I had an experience or two while smoking that "K2" synthetic Marijuana stuff while trying to cheat probation drug test some years ago. And I could've swore this super negative "demonic" like energy was pressing down on me making hyper aware of exploring these terrible thoughts I'd never dreamed of with a sober mind. I had this similar experience a couple of times and even twice since smoking actual THC dabs. Very similar anxiety feeling that i imagine is close to what a schizophrenic experiences. Anyhow ever since I've theorized that negative spiritual energy is able to use these altered mind states for heightened ability to influence human beings and have even a couple crazy correlating stories about people committing terrible crimes and claiming a demon influenced them while smoking spice or doing bath salts. So I think there's something to it tbh

Once I was tripping in the living room on psilocybin mushrooms and I was have a horrific time, literally in a demonic realm which is so hard to explain. My brother said that he saw a shadow standing over me and as soon as he noticed it it had faded back behind the couch and I snapped out of it. This happens at night but when I trip out during the day time, especially in the sunlight, I have the best most blissful trips.

i had to stop this at !9:19, but woah... what an interview i feel the world understands better than i had hoped .. it is exciting and breathtakingly grand and perfect

I’m watching this as a Christian like, “did this guy say to take drugs and open yourself up to demons and not resist the demonic while approaching it with drugs?”

As someone who has used psilocybin, probably 10 to 15 times in my life. The anxiety and fear that happens only last until you get “settled in” to the experience. Which 99 percent of the time only last minutes. Thanks for the interesting upload

And people accuse *me* of being a mad scientist ...

Thanks for the show Jordan

Sacrament without ritual is just taking a trip without purpose. Ritual without sacrament is packing for a trip that you're not taking.

I can tell you music and eye shades is a massive part of this process. I have used the same playlists they used also which are on Spotify and they will move you in a way that is beyond description.

Microdosing Mexicana shroom helps depression and some ppl I know use it. Safe and no like crazy sideffects as some other psychodelics and it heals the brain also! I have given them to my bf, mother, father. For my father (smaller doses) it helped with insomnia.

Wow what great guest, thanks JBP

Very interesting thanks for the video

I'm not sure why this is interesting to me , but I feel that it is important to understand.

Remember: John’s Hopkins also approved of and sponsored the “Frankenstein like” practices of John Mooney! Conclusion? Beware of John’s Hopkins.

Good job. Thank you

Research proposal for doctors: a friend of mine, completely colourblind from birth, ate magic mushrooms and he was seeing colors! He asked me to come out and go for a walk with him. It was night, so we were looking at the shop windows. He would ask me what's the color of some item, shirt or a shoe. When I said that the shoe is red, he would point to every red shoe and bag in the whole window. Then he asked me to point at "green". Then he pointed to every other green thing, and so on: he never missed! Sadly, when psylocibin was over, he came back into his black & white & shades of gray world and never saw colors again. It happened in 1980s. I believe you'll get a permission for experimenting with psylocibin and colorblinds, but ... If it happens, and ends, like it was with my friend, then what? Seriously: what?

Thank you Jordan for sharing this video. It’s so wonderful and adorable seeing you so excited. ✝️❤️

Classical music that’s a heavy trip man you don’t want to shock and surprise people tripping there is a reason that ambient and minimalist music exists unless of course your intention was to give them a bad trip

After having tried DMT in the past (Maybe three or four times) I found it fascinating. However, I struggled to let go and give in to the experience. This time was different. This time I had such a profound experience it has totally changed my spiritual views. This time I met a variety of entities - good and bad. It's hard to describe how I knew their intentions but it was just a sensation that took over my entire body. I could feel the warmth and the love of the good entities and the pure evil of the others - It was like having all of the happiness drained from my body. This did not scare me as I was prepared from watching youtube videos and speaking to friends. The good entities taught me lessons. They communicated to me seemingly telepathically with no sound. They were producing the bad entities to show me they couldn't hurt me. They were a manifestation of my own fear and negativity. They need it as we need oxygen. There were three right in front of me facing away and crouched down. As soon as they knew I was there they turned and revealed animal like faces (What I can only describe as dark black wolves with pointy ears). Their eyes reflected the light and they were giving me a piercing stare. The good entities allowed one to come right up to me - staring me in the face. Another was just to my left and looked like something out of a horror film. A jet black dark old man in a long black cloak with a veil that stood to my shoulder in height. I say man, it was more like a demon. This thing had no gender. I genuinely had no fear, although it was quite an intense experience. It's presence could not go unnoticed and was overwhelmingly dark and aggressive. I laughed at it and it subsequently disappeared shortly after. The positive entities rewarded me without speaking but I knew what they were saying. "See!" The positive entity then got one of the wolves in the head lock and just fucked it off. It was hilarious. I haven't laughed like that in so long. It was almost as if I had just completed the first level of a video game was ready for the next level. The good entity apparated but another immediately appeared. He sat down as if to teach me a new lesson. (Sitting on seemingly nothing at all) Suddenly I started to experience what I could only interpret as an ego death. I started to feel very sick like I was just about to throw up and I panicked. The entity shook his finger at me and I relaxed. Immediately after, my belly detached from my body and floated away as if it was no longer a part of me. The feeling of being sick totally went. This is the first time I've experienced something in the physical world as a result of my psychedelic experience. I manifested my reality and stopped myself from being sick. I believe this is a lesson that we are a part of everything and the ego is an illusion. To further confirm my findings my thoughts started to transcend and seperate as they didnt belong to me anymore. Who is the 'me' that Im referring to anyway? What is I? These are some of my most favourite philosophical questions so this was very exciting to experience. I was fully conscious of everything that was going on but I didn't identify with my thoughts anymore. This was all very overwhelming, but the lesson was clear - This life is just an illusion. We are here temporarily to learn and then we go back into the 'realm' as I like to call it. I have found this very comforting and I no longer fear death. People tend to worry about the after life wonder if they will see their loved ones again - but it was very apparent to me that all of our feelings in this reality are irrelevant to the afterlife. I felt so much peace and warmth but I did not care for anything from my material life. We ARE everything. We are all a part of each other. Nothing we say or do matters. In the end. This was the last lesson I learned and for the rest of my trip, full body formations of 'people' would appear as if from the side of a stage curtain. They would walk towards me and would then turn around and go back behind the curtain. There were maybe 4 or 5 people at a time , continuously appearing, dancing up to me and returning elegantly on their tip toes as if they were dancing in time with the music I was listening to. I look forward to taking DMT again and learning more about this life. I've decided to start documenting my DMT trips. There is something so philosophical about them and I have learned profound lessons. I want to share them and be able to refer back to them as I believe strongly they contain the answers to some of lifes biggest mysteries 🌱 If you haven't tried DMT this will sound psychotic 🤣 If you are in a good space mentally, you SHOULD try it. All I can say is see for yourself. It will change your life if you take it seriously KZfaq is your best friend 9th Immediately as I started the trip, I was looking at people running and jumping from a building. I was saying them from the point of view of a drone as if I was videoting a music video. I followed them to the floor where they disappeared

Thank you Mr. Peterson

Never had a bad trip. Mildly interesting and malleable is how I'd describe my experiences, most of which were completely forgettable.

In highschool we'd pick them after a rain when it was warm and humid in a cow pasture. Fill a 30 qt igloo cooler in 15 minutes. I thought they were funny. In typing class once the keys on mine and my buddy's typewriter seemed to be melting. We walked out of class in hysterical laughter and skipped the rest of the day until last period, football practice. 17:56

How do sign up for things like this!? Amazing conversation love Jordan’s curiosity!

To the assertion that a demon is nothing more than an object of consiousness is a meaningless statement. Literally everything a person encounters can be defined this way.

I couldn't imagine how fearful these people were unknowingly experiencing the effects of psychedelics.

Fight as you go like pay as you go . Demons are everywhere

Every time I listen to jp I get so many questions I’d want ask his thoughts on. It’s frustrating sometimes!

My son is autistic and it has been spoken about adderal being used to set their brain straight off early in life effective but not necessarily the best thing so I say to my mother years ago that psilocybin would be a better option for my son as opposed to adderal

Psychedelics will never bring forth something that was never there to begin with. The best protection against bad experiences is self knowledge. False self knowledge is what tears some people who trip to pieces!

Dont welcome anything that appears to be spirit-like. Listen to the excorcists!

Thirty percent bad trips is wildly high in the field. Classical music might be the reason - it's often very anxious in character. I disagree with JBP that most classical is like religous music. Trance/space music is much closer to the transcendental religous music traditions than European Classical. Go search popular culture for tripping music (even here) and see what is actually used. I can't imagine trying to deal with Tchkovsky in that state!

I experienced LSD and some psilocybin in the late 60s and early 70s. Much more LSD. These experiences took place alone in a room, out in the country/nature, on city streets, and in autos. All the experiences seemed that they were unique and varied to me. I agree that about 30% were accompanied with anxiety. Any so-called "demonic" figures/entities I experienced seemed to be short-term and were followed by something else. Not necessarily demonic or even negative. However, in one case, I did experience fear that I had to flee, and flee I did, until I fell asleep. Many hallucinations were familiar people or objects transformed into some other version of themselves. For example, I had conversations with friends, where they were some other human being, manifesting as a completely different person or version of themselves.

Imagine volunteering to participate in a lab not knowing that you're about to embark on an acid trip. Lol

Academics are out of their depth in this space.

Is that a small glass bong on the (camera) left side of the table behind the guest? Sure looks like it. LOL

That vase on the table is definitely a bong. Just turned so you don’t see the slide and bowl. 😂

Thank you gentlemen. The work you are doing at Johns Hopkins is helping to restore our connections with nature

Integrating the Demon is like a symbolic reenactment of our ancestors' first use of fire. They had to be more curious than afraid, so they approached fiery death and harnessed its power for good.

John Hopkins just used poor black people around Baltimore. They have done that for decades...which is why they approved this risky experiment. In their eyes, no real people would be hurt.

Thank you.

Why can’t they just ask us LSD people what they want to know and we will just tell them.

I smoked some laced weed 40 years ago and had a giant coloured serpent coming out of my mouth. It was frighteningly realistic. I was also intensely high for hours, and beer didn't help me mellow out. It's OK to experience hallucinations, but it's gotta be hard on your brain. Reality is not something to be routinely fooled with imo.

There is a place for natural plant medicines. Though, not with ceremonial reverence. One can only serve one master and these things often require complete submission which is more than just a leaning in. There’s beauty within the process, along with temptation that draws one in but I couldn’t give away what is already sovereign and owned by the cross. Just personal experience that may not make complete sense to those who’ve not taken the journey. Fascinating, nonetheless, even at the hero plus dose.

Is there a full podcast to this ?

It would have been really interesting to hear about these gentlemen’s own experiences with magic mushrooms, assuming they have had them, which I bet they have. If they haven’t you have to wonder why not. The most likely explanation would be that they think it is too dangerous which is problematic because in a sense they are promoting it here. Anyway, I get the sense that they have done it, perhaps numerous times. I just wish they would talk about their own experience. A lot of people would be fascinated to hear about that.

Having taken a dose of mushrooms for only the 2nd time in my life, I am 58 years old, I hear a voice in my head asked me: " what are you doing here, this is sacred ground"? I telepathically answered " I have these questions that I seek answers for; I seek to understand if my mom and sister are ok, their passing makes me very sad and I also seek to understand if I will die from this cancer" "Your sister and mom are with me, there is no need to be sad, no need to worry, they are fine, stop being such a baby about this stuff, I am God, all things are transitory. As to if you will die of cancer; you probably will, but everyone dies, but again, do not be sad, do not worry, I am with you, have been with, and always will be with you, dying is just a part of the process, you will be fine, I have a place for you here, you are on the list of life, that being said, I hope not to see you here on sacred ground again until your time, there are reasons you don't understand that you should stay away until called." Since then, I am not as sad about people I love leaving this planet and I am told I am terminal but have a different perspective on that issue. A profound experience for sure.

On one occasion I perceived that the bio-film on the Earth was conscious and we were nothing more than one of it's sense organs. Because the elements that come from super nova and such are kind of unique depending on the supernova like fingerprints, it then dawned on me that consciousness might be in the water. The H2O would have been floating in space for billions of years with the other elements created by the super nova/novae before coalescing into the current solar system we live in. It also dawned on me that the bio-film wanted us to expand off the Earth as it's eggs to carry life and consciousness to the rest of the universe. Looking outward at the natural world I seemed to perceive a purplish aura coming from the entirety. It was hiding itself from us because It was using us to perceive individualized free will from different viewpoints. There is much more, but that was the gist of that trip.

God bless & protect Jordan Peterson & his whole family 🌠🍀☮️📈🎉

we all need to know about the Dose and period of ingestion. I don’t mind mushrooms had some awful experiences on LSD that left me feeling like part of your brain had left me forever which it had. Nothing worse than a bad trip. Even if you are off your dial on E’s you never lose sense of reality like you do with psychedelics

It's certainly comforting to convince one's self that what is being seen is simply a piece of consciousness, a figment of your imagination, or a subconscious fear. But in reality, these are demons. They may change, they may present themselves in more pleasant forms at some point... but they are demons. Do you know what real empowerment is? Knowing that you have authority over those demons through Jesus Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit. Yes, I've had personal experience, and yes, I am free now for 6 years and I thank God every day that through the blood of the Lamb and the power of the name of my Messiah I have found freedom.

This video was published about a month before the unfortunate passing of Dr. Griffiths, he was and still is a pioneer of this study well into the future, thank God for him and his work.

good science there, exploring the division between mind and matter, or 'natural versus supernatural', like the wave-particle duality of light

Awesome discussion. Love to see and be apart of a second psychedelic renaissance. Hopefully this time we can integrate it into our society in a healthy and balanced way.

The notion that demons are only aspects of one's consciousness ignores the possibility that they are in fact real and separate entities in their own right. I'm disappointed that this is ignored or dismissed by both the researcher and Dr Peterson.

THIS IS INCREDIBLE,

Magic Mushroom is Amanita Muscaria, the Fly Agaric. I did prefer Psilocybin, though but haven't done any in a long time. I saw a couple whose skin turned purplish from probably eating too many over time, on Vancouver Island.

Just went on a mushroom journey. Profound to say the least. Staying positive and choosing the path of the trip is of most importance. When ascending to the peak I could feel the darkness pressing on my chest. Like something is standing on my chest. I rebuked it and it left. Years ago I used to do LSD. I won’t do that again. It’s too dangerous and unpredictable. You need a pure source. Just be careful if you decide to indulge. Things can go dark real fast. If you stare into the darkness, evil will stare back.

IMO, there is no other drug that compares to mushys

I like both speakers very much 😊

I would love to have been part of this study. Not being appreciated called naive. But I have no experience, yet would volunteer, no naivity needed.

One fellow was praising someone who tuned him in to the value of using psychedelics, as being his “healer.” When I asked him if he considered all drug pushers to be healers … he didn’t respond. Certainly there are good trips when taking drugs, but there are also bad trips, that according to some people cause negative flashbacks, that in turn does not make them feel at all at peace or at oneness with the universe. Altering the brain with drugs is a tricky "business." With the correct amount of drugs, the experience of the users will be that of euphoria ... but if the amount of drugs is overdone ... the experience will be anything but euphoric, and sometimes it will mean death to the users.

Have you ever considered prayer.........in order to have a spiritual experience doctor's ?

Jordon I have a suggestion, instead of pondering so much about Psilocybin why don’t you try it? I think your understanding of it might be easier.

I'm just a little jealous. Because they've never had any effect on me. Twice tried and twice failed. Everyone else in the group was rendered functionally useless. They spoke to me of their experience and asked me to remove cats and tone down the lights and music. For me nothing. Maybe mild digestive issues. I think maybe I would have to have a medical professional to ever consider it again.

This guy states that what happens on the trip is caused completely by YOU. But if that's the case how do so many people have experiences with the machine elves that all look the same and share certain traits?