Jordyn Wieber vs Viktoria Komova {2011 World Championships}

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9 ай бұрын

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@Lovememore231
@Lovememore231 4 ай бұрын
Komova is such a gorgeous gymnast!
@objetivista686
@objetivista686 9 ай бұрын
It's unbelievable how Komova, clearly superior to Wieber, still loses first place. I didn't understand their score on the beam. It seems to me that they had equal difficulty scores, but the scores are very discrepant. Wieber did well, despite her atrocious form. But I didn't see any big mistakes about Komova. Poor girl.
@Vermontist1
@Vermontist1 9 ай бұрын
Komova had numerous wobbles, but gloriously beautiful form. Weiber had one small mistake, but inferior form.
@GoldForAnna
@GoldForAnna 9 ай бұрын
Poor girl and poor world. The best gymnast should won.
@objetivista686
@objetivista686 9 ай бұрын
​@@Vermontist1very small wobbles.
@jerrybalote8243
@jerrybalote8243 9 ай бұрын
This is clear robbery! Poor Komova🥲 She was robbed twice by a Gold to an undeserving Americans!!!💔💔💔
@objetivista686
@objetivista686 3 ай бұрын
@AwfaKimah makes no sense at all, sorry. Maybe if you comment sober
@matthewaldrich8361
@matthewaldrich8361 3 ай бұрын
Its the scoring system. Its about difficulty vs execution. Some athletes have enough difficulty in order to afford an execution mistake
@bagelized
@bagelized 9 ай бұрын
This era’s Amanars were so half cooked, I mean she starts twisting before her hands even leave the table lmao, and she barely finds the landing in time.
@Julia-jl7ot
@Julia-jl7ot 2 ай бұрын
El ejercicio de asimetricas de weber es de risa 😂😂
@OsirisDiaz-bs4wq
@OsirisDiaz-bs4wq 2 ай бұрын
Pues a Jordyn weber le dieron la medalla pero todos sabemos que Viktoria Komova fue la verdadera campeona absoluta en 2011 y en Londres 2012 también lo fue y muchos no reconocemos a Gabrielle Douglas como campeona olímpica y tampoco a jordyn weber y mucho menos a carly patersson 2004
@pedrojorge1912
@pedrojorge1912 Ай бұрын
Thanks! Great work putting together the comparisons _and_ using the high quality videos. Maybe you could do for other finals as well, like Hurd vs Black (2017), Melnikova vs Leanne (2021) or Andrade vs Jones (2022)? Sadly FIG never released the detailed scores from that final, so we can, at most, suppose the E-scores based on the possible D-scores given. For example, Wieber's vault received a higher execution than Komova's (9.216 vs 9.133), what seems unfair. I think Komova had a superior program, but had more visible mistakes on BB and FX and that summed with a little help from the judges for Wieber.
@GoldForAnna
@GoldForAnna 9 ай бұрын
Komova deserved by far the gold over Wieber. A world champion doesn't the mistakes Wieber did on uneven bars and on floor.
@worldartgym
@worldartgym 9 ай бұрын
If Komova had steadier landings on floor it would have been hers.
@GoldForAnna
@GoldForAnna 9 ай бұрын
No. A world champion hasn't her legs fall off in her AA bars routine. And a world champion doesn't fall down the bars at the apparatus final. Komova has everything, the highest level in tumbling and the best in artistry. Wieber shows what she's able to do.
@worldartgym
@worldartgym 9 ай бұрын
@@GoldForAnna mathematically, based on results, a cleaner floor routine and we would have seen different results.
@GoldForAnna
@GoldForAnna 9 ай бұрын
Yes, and without a clean bar and a clean floor routine, Wieber won.
@dancingrick1014
@dancingrick1014 9 ай бұрын
@@GoldForAnnayou’re just hating on wieber at this point, komova’s beam was shaky af which is why wieber was able to catch up to her, and then wieber had a pretty clean floor (apart from the 0.1 penalty for the step out), meanwhile komova’s landing all had deductions (some major). Yes komova blew her out of the water on bars, but Wieber blew her out of the water on Vault. Both are incredible athletes, which explains the results
@jonasmari8612
@jonasmari8612 Ай бұрын
I like Komova overall when compared to Wieber, but when people say things like "underscored" or "robbed" without pointing out specific D or E scores based on the 2012 CoP, then their assessment has a lot less weight. Weiber's cumulative D score absorbed her big deductions on Bars. Komova had small errrors in Beam and Floor, but they were in aggregate pretty large and yielded a lot of deductions. Komova's overall atistry beats Wieber's hands down. However the 2012 CoP didnt weigh that as much in the E scores. So stop making empty statements without context. I think they were too lenient on Komova's wobbles on beam, which could've led to .2-.4 more in deductions. Wieber shouldve gotten .2-.3 more deductions on bars. They were a bit too harsh on the vault scores for both, about .1 each. Not sure if the outcome would change even with those discrepancies.
@linlouwho123
@linlouwho123 8 ай бұрын
Jordan Weiber really got screwed by the amateur/professional rules. I think it was part of the impedes for changing ing the rules.
@qqvw217
@qqvw217 9 ай бұрын
Jordan out of the line !!!… one step out side and she still win the gold ?!.. what was that ??!!!!
@Vermontist1
@Vermontist1 9 ай бұрын
One step is 0.1 + OOB is 0.1
@themotherlandcalls9019
@themotherlandcalls9019 2 ай бұрын
Komova is a gorgeous gymnast with a superior technique and Wieber is a tumbler....Still, Wieber takes the gold
@RaymonPizziolo
@RaymonPizziolo 2 ай бұрын
several errors in Jordyn Wieber's parallels, they stole
@Mature
@Mature Ай бұрын
Komova is an Olympian. She cemented herself for life by having her own technique on UB named after her. Weiber is just a gymnast.
@gabrielacruz8127
@gabrielacruz8127 2 ай бұрын
Humillaron a las rusas y le dieron la preferencia alas gringas esas😮 cuando victoria tenia mejor puntuación. Que fraude.
@tkimaginestudio
@tkimaginestudio 2 ай бұрын
Don't know much about the difficulties nor the scoring but it looks to me Komova was robbed.
@colesmith7509
@colesmith7509 Ай бұрын
So basically “I am very uninformed but I am making an opinion based on no information anyways”
@Lorena-xn9bf
@Lorena-xn9bf Ай бұрын
Wieber is amazing, but Komova deserved gold
@henryleslie1396
@henryleslie1396 Ай бұрын
komova's beam is so underscored here, should be a 14.8-14.9
@cgheat2397
@cgheat2397 Ай бұрын
I think why she scored so low is because the L-turn, front aerial, and wolf jump are supposed to be connected but she missed it which drops her difficulty, and she wobbled on all three skills in a row which affected the execution. Breaking connects costs more than people realize.
@danch5602
@danch5602 4 ай бұрын
Really? Komova second in 2011 and 2012?
@IgorVattimo-op9q
@IgorVattimo-op9q 2 ай бұрын
There’s one move of Komova where her feet touch the bar on the UB… there’s a discount because of that?
@luisgustaffroblesponce5917
@luisgustaffroblesponce5917 Ай бұрын
Yes, mayor fall
@gabrielacruz8127
@gabrielacruz8127 2 ай бұрын
Intereses politicos
@jonathantargaryen4254
@jonathantargaryen4254 29 күн бұрын
Lomo a merecía el oro
@PamelaEnglish-ew8nf
@PamelaEnglish-ew8nf Ай бұрын
Endless speculation. I wonder if we could get artificial intelligence to score routines (at least the basics and the major things)
@worldartgym
@worldartgym Ай бұрын
I think in the very near future. I believe they’ve already started using AI to judge still rings but I think within 10 years there will be advancements in analysis
@hoaniman1
@hoaniman1 2 ай бұрын
Well, from what i just watched I think Komova should have won the gold, Weber made more mistakes, the difficulty in her routines were less than Komova....
@SandyKH
@SandyKH 4 ай бұрын
I forget how well both Weiber and Komova danced. While Komova has a more balletic style, Weiber is certainly a comfortable and competant dancer that uses good extension and body form. They both generally had control over their landings, and both used quite modern music (at the time) to get the speed needed for the very difficult tumbling. Komova was far better on bars (consistently) and Weiber had the stronger vault. Neither were particularly consistent on beam, which proved problematic in the end for them both. It was always who performed best on the day would win... this time, it was Weiber's.
@TheMajesticice01
@TheMajesticice01 2 ай бұрын
Yall still mad the loser lost! Get over it! She was weak on floor!
@cherryru2110
@cherryru2110 2 ай бұрын
In the competition between a horse and a fallow deer, the english horse won at the wich of the judges
@carolinegoss856
@carolinegoss856 Ай бұрын
Komovo baubles big time and at least four times on the beam. Jordan did not. From what I saw, Jordan deserved the win. On the her floor routine, Komovo did not land her second nor her last jump well, and she fell out of one of her turns. Yes Jordan stepped out of boundaries once, but her jumps were all clean, and her quadruple turn was flawless. Sorry, didn’t think the Russian was superior in any way in this competition.
@Marketoromagnolo
@Marketoromagnolo 9 ай бұрын
Wieber deserved by far the gold over Komova
@iliitchwieopw
@iliitchwieopw 9 ай бұрын
But Komova is one in a lifetime. Gymnasts like wieber we see every year, nothing spectacular
@matthewkretschmer7010
@matthewkretschmer7010 5 ай бұрын
I agree
@Marketoromagnolo
@Marketoromagnolo 3 ай бұрын
@AwfaKimah lol
@jonasmari8612
@jonasmari8612 Ай бұрын
I agree. I think most days, Komova is a better gymnast. Just not this day, especially with the small errors that really added up.
@BranchDavidian-
@BranchDavidian- Ай бұрын
@@jonasmari8612added up to… 0.033 difference if I recall, enough for judging errors to make a difference
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