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GA Tech taking a knee on the extra point was the biggest pour of salt on a wound I've ever seen.

Even after GT recovers the fumble, ESPN projects that Miami had a 94% chance to win. You have to really choke to give up 75 yards and a TD in 3 plays plus a spike.

Josh, I'ma Oregon guy (class of '90) and I'm telling you, the majority of Duck fans were not terribly upset that Mario left for Miami, because we saw the limits of what Christoballing can get you. I mean, dude had a generational QB talent in Justin Herbert and still insisted on cramming down the middle 70% of the time.

As an FSU fan, I even almost felt a little bad after that one. Almost.

Man, when Miami opted to run on that play and fumbled.. Oregon fans felt that.

Can you imagine being in Miami player right now.. And he's screaming at you for not doing something right in practice

As a Miami fan that has suffered our failures since 2001, imagine how devastated we are plus the MTSU loss last year that had the team tank the rest of the season. Painful to see 4-1 instead of 5-0 thinking Mario had us on a good track and then this stupidity!

I've been a Georgia Tech fan for almost 30 years now (I'm 35) and the way GT beat Miami last night is how I've become accustom to seeing Georgia Tech get beat SO many times before. I honestly thought Miami was going to lateral 22 times and somehow score on that last play... Like I hate it but I basically expect Georgia Tech to somehow find a way to lose the game. It feels SO AWESOME to be on the other side of it. I also almost feel bad for Miami fans... ALMOST! 😂 Seriously, though, I DID feel REALLY bad for the Miami players... ESPECIALLY the young man at running back (#2). TV did him dirty the way they kept zooming in and showing him obviously distraught after the game was over.

He snatched the soul out of the players and us fans ! Have 0 confidence in Mario as a coach . This is game management 101 , VICTORY FORMATION !

As an Oregon fan it was wild to see Cristobal make this mistake after he did something similar to us vs Stanford 2018. The fact that he clearly didn't learn anything from that experience and made an even WORSE decision this time is very telling

Hahaha, we at Oregon, learned our lesson a few years ago. To the Miami fans, we told you so!

Been waiting forever for Tech to give you a reason to talk about us.

As a Brotha, from the DC Metro area, who now resides in Broward County/South Florida....just wanted to tell the rest of America, about, the fact that all of the job/resting conversations at the jobs, down here, WAS ABOUT THAT MIAMI vs. GT ENDING....OMG, THAT WAS ALL WE ALL TALKED ABOUT, TODAY !!!!

Mario will never escape this unless he wins huge at Miami. The negative recruiting against him will be off the charts. The embarrassment of this could cost him his job long term.

As someone who goes to GT that was a crazy ending!!! No way that game should’ve been close, but magic happens under Brent Key against ranked ACC teams on the road.

What happened is called the Mario Cristobal special, and Oregon fans don't miss it in the slightest.

I read somewhere that if a team has the ball with 40 seconds left, at least 2 downs, leading, and the opposing team has no timeouts, the team with the ball has a 99.9% chance of wining. Miami decided to try for the 0.1%.

As a Miami fan since 1998 I still think Mario can win and win big at Miami (see the Ohio State vs Oregon Game, see the Rose Bowl) BUT all of the talk about him being a bad game day coach and game manager CAN NOT be ignored anymore. It needs to be addressed and fixed by Mario Cristobal PERIOD.

Mario is Bobby Bowden from January to August and Willie Taggart from September to December. The Canes will win the offseason again though, I'm sure!

I thought that fsu would have the worst loss to Georgia tech for a very long time (kick 6 2015) turns out Miami will great day to be a noles fan

miami did a great job!! i hope the coaching staff keeps up the hard work!! GO NOLES lol

Thank you Miami fans for making my friggin week😀

You have to give Georgia Tech a lot of credit, after losing to Bowling Green, they have enough fight to stay with a team like Miami, take the ball after Miami blunders, and move it in the end zone, that's a tough group of men

Fantastic Show. Well done. Here’s my take on Cristobal as an Oregon fan for over 40 years. 1. Great human being, 2.Excellent recruiter. 3. Accepts blame for mistakes. 4. Questionable coaching decisions that separates him from “elite coaches.” I like the man personally. He repeatedly has demonstrated an ineptitude as a head coach that can help his team reach the “top level” in college football. He’s demonstrated to be an excellent Offensive/Defensive line coach. An excellent Line Coach recruiter and developer. But not the guy you want making game decisions for your program. At Oregon, we witnessed a LOT of questionable decisions from him on the sidelines. I sincerely wish him well.

Go jackets baby

"you play to lose the game" -mario cristobal

I was at this game, flanked by GT fans (because visitor side tickets were cheaper). The turnout for Miami Nights was better than I was expecting, but the game just felt weird, seeing all that black, with only a smattering of orange and green seemed wrong.

We all need someone to fight for us the way Josh Pates fights for Mario Cristobal. I admire his loyalty.

Love your humor! Makes your show so fun :)

When a majority of fans arnt upset about a coach leaving for a different program it should worry the fans of the program receiving said coach

As a Georgia Tech fan that watched that unfold with my Dad sitting next to me we were so confused why they had ran the ball on that play worst decision of collage football i've ever seen in my life time. Georgia Tech didn't deserve that win and if you look at the stats you can see that we had basically no yards of running or passing. But it was crazy that we drove 74yrds in 26secs. Thats what I call nothing short of a miricle

Miami has historically gone into the tank after losses. I watch Miami games more than most Miami fans because I actually stick around to watch while they are getting blown out. Go into the record books and see for yourself. Miami is THE BEST EXAMPLE of allowing 1 loss to turn into 2, 3 and even 4 losses.

Josh’s story about the mechanical pencil makes me question the validity of him being a recipient of the HOPE scholarship. 😅😂

Oregon fan here mario did this 2018 Stanford game!! Said same thing afterwards 😂😂😂😂😂😂

I’m a senior at Miami, I just feel like you got to put this in a bigger picture. Should he be fired for this, probably not. But having all the hype last year about the U being back, to then lose to middle Tennessee was bad but a good year this year would make up for it. This team had the chance to be 5-0 heading into the biggest game for the program in years. He robbed not only the kids but the program as a whole of that. Forget the players being demoralized, at this moment that decision derailed the programs progress back to a respectable name in college football.

I love watching miami implode!

Interesting insight on the Miami debacle. Josh, things happen during “the fog of war.” It will be very interesting to see how the Canes respond.

My friend use to stick stuff in the light socket in class to get the projector light bulb to blow lol! He was a legend..

I love all of Mario's bone headed decisions. Go Noles!

"Would you fire Cristobal." I seen a fair amount Oregon games under Cristobal especially those game after that upset of Ohio State. If I ran Miami at the time, I wouldn't have hired him in the first place.

As a FSU fan I never thought I’d feel bad for Miami, yet here we are. It’s more fun to hate Miami.

Did the Miami RB's left elbow have to bust through the stadium floor for him to be ruled down or what?

being at the stadium, hearing the fans booing when TVD mess up was ridiculous. That was in stadium with a bunch of our recruits visiting. I am also sure the students love to get booed in their own house.

GT Alumn here.... replay from the GT end zone angle shows elbow down and then ball stripped a few slo mo seconds later. Refs must not have been able to say the elbow was down from that angle and I couldn't either. But the elbow stops at the ground... it probably was down but that's not how this works... they have to have proof that the call gets reversed and the refs didn't have it. Also, Miami came in the better team but GT didn't play poorly. They played extremely well and with great motivation. The got it done by playing hard, up until the fumble. And then they got it done after the fumble so they were the better team on the day. You can't cut out the coach staff from the game overall... you can't say, "no we won, if we would have taken a knee". You don't get to cut out the decisions of the coaches. That is part of the overall game and this is proof. How many times have QBs made obvious mistakes that cost the game. This is the exact same thing.

In the words of Boz Scaggs -- Danger, there's a breakdown dead ahead. Maybe you're in way above your head!

One thing I’ve noticed is van dyke doesn’t audible when he sees the defense in certain formations, they know what the play is yet we still run it. Then as I’m watching Colorado , Shadeur is calling an audible and changing formation every other play.

Forgot to mention he did this at the end of the Stanford Oregon game a few years back. A mistake is a once over. A trend signifies incompetence

I'll be honest, i never thought getting electrocuted would be fun

Miami fan since 2002, TVD had 3ints, it was only a bad play cuz he fumble, true canes knew we would get a crazy game lost , hope it came early, 7-5 or 8-4 we are still on schedule for that 🙌🏿

My dog makes a mistake only once. He did something very similar in a game Oregon seemed to have won, but the fumble lead to a Stanford recovery and TD that sent it into overtime, and a Stanford upset win.

It's not that complicated to just take a knee to end the game when the outcome in your favor has already been decided.

The fact that you still have hope for Miami kinda tells me you’re on to something and very well more on the logical correct side, I even said win or lose we would’ve been mad and fired up but it was worse when we loss. I hope we go out there in Chapel Hill and take our anger on them and come out on top, we got a lot to work on ever since the GT Disaster, Go Canes!!

bruh, I'm outta breath from that electrocution story ☠☠🤣🤣⚡🔌🔌⚡⚡

Didn't Mario essentially blame the RB?...It wasn't just one bad decision, it was also a terrible defensive stand right after and it was the second time this has happened with him.

What a Logical, rational, argument. One of the reasons I subscribe to this channel. No tune into Paul Finbauem and he may say Mario Crystbal needs to go or the season is over.

The fact he's done this twice is hilarious

I don't think they were trying to add another score, their running back at the time had 99 yards and I read that he had been battling injury and was putting in the time and doing everything right in the program so I think they wanted to get him a hundred yard game

I disagree. How can Miami players now believe that their coaches are making the right decisions & putting them in the best positions to win? When players start doubting their coaches, bad things happen.

Its All About The U... In the offseason When the games come around, its anything but

I really don't think the lack of kneeling is a big as people are saying it is. I've seen plenty of teams run out the clock with run plays over the last decade. The RB just knows to use both hands, and fall over quickly. That Miami back was fighting for extra yards for some reason...

As an FSU fan…this was AMAZING

❤❤❤❤❤Give kudo to Tech for scoring under seconds!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤Miami has never recovered since Alabama humbled them with Jay Barker against the Thuggish canes losing National Championship simply never have recovered.😎😎😎

He was obviously down in the 1st place and the ref is suspended for 2 weeks because they publicly admitted they got it wrong. Miami should be undefeated still.

Inexcusable. Out of pure arrogance did cristobal choose to run that at what he thought was an “inferior” team as well as he thought if they do get the ball they aren’t going to go 75 yards. GT said hold my beer and watch…

All great points by Pate. Yes the program is moving in an upward trajectory. All I can say is wow just about everything the Oregon fans said about Mario we’ve seen a couple times now : the poor clock management, lack of in game adjustments, and everyone has to be hoping he doesn’t handcuff Dawson after this game. These little hiccups kind of make me feel like Mario is the guy to stack the team with talent, hopefully he’s the coach to lead them to a title but if not the guy after him will have stacked roster to succeed. Like Tony Dungy with Tampa and Gruden getting the title.

As a fan what hurts the most is the missed potential. I see what this team can be and can do. You're about to grind a tough game out against GT (credit to them, they always play UM hard) and then you lose on the most boneheaded dumb decision possible.....?? C'mon man. How can you be expected to win tough games on the road if you can't even do it at home?

MC doesn’t learn from his mistakes though. He doesn’t get better. He did this vs Stanford when he was coaching Oregon.

Miami taking a knee wasn't my issue.. My issue was the whole game leading up to end of game we should have never been in this position to begin with.

Why the hell wasn’t Miami playing prevent defense on the last pass as well . That’s another coaching decision that made absolutely no sense. I’d be shocked if this doesn’t cause Miami to lose several more games . Locker room has no trust in their head coach anymore

You are a good man Joshua in your attempt of a balanced analysis of this sad situation. However, this has to affect all the positives you mention going forward. Can't believe Oregon got paid for The U taking CristoBAIL off their hands.

Of course there is the obvious take-a-way (knee), but more important is the game is not over until the final whistle is blown, and that applies to the season. I think the shock caused Miami to stop playing and lead to the results. Even after the fumble (whether is was or wasn't) GT was on the far end of the field, no timeouts and only 26 seconds on the clock. Most people would agree pulling off a win in that situation would be nearly impossible, but they did it. So hats off to GT. Having said that, if you think Miami season is over, then you're thinking the same the Miami team did after the fumble. Imagine Miami winning the next 3 games. You say there is no way. That's what they said about GT. And they did it despite the odds. This game is not the end of the world and it won't define Miami unless the let it. What they do next will define them. Yes, we still have great coaches, great players, and a great University. Go Canes!

I'm a Tech fan, so while I appreciate you giving them credit (sort of) for holding Miami to 3 in the first half and having the skill and foresight to execute on the gift given to them, I acknowledge that this game was Miami's to lose and they made a terrible decision - but there was 0 guarantee that Tech would recover the fumble and go 75 yards for a TD with 27 seconds left in the game against a team like Miami. To me, that is just as amazing as the poor game mgt decision to run the ball on 3rd and 10 with a minute left in the game.

I wouldnt be surprised if the team went into a nosedive from that

Da u is back!!! Nov 11th will be here real soon. Go Noles!!!

Coach said we not me . Head coach didn't own it.

Yes Miami gave GT the opportunity to win the game by running the ball instead of kneeing. But GT did strip the ball out (even though the RB looked down) and took 2 plays to score the game winner. So yes Miami lost the game, but GT does deserve credit for keeping it close and taking advantage of Miami's blunders

I told Miami Fan that Mario was a terrible coach and they attacked me like it was WW3. This dude did the same exact thing in Oregon against Stanford. It's the dumbest weirdest move ever in coaching. Mario can recruit, can't coach. Good guy, good recruiter, should be a Coordinator, best case.

Mario did the one thing you don't do. he left the game up to the refs and the other team. The gave GT the fumble when it was obvious down by contact. the clock manager gave them extra clock after the catch to spike the ball. Then the DB just not playing overtop in crucial moment to give up the TD, the team saw the BS and gave up. Mario getting the locker room back will be nothing short of a miracle.

As a die hard Miami guy this was disgusting and honestly a fireable offense. I’m not saying to fire Mario but this was as bad as it gets.Not taking a knee and then the refs not overturning what was clearly not a fumble because his elbow was down made it even worse! Mario took a win away from the kids who bust their ass for him week in and week out in practice . DISGUSTING

Great take!! 👏🏻🙌🏻

For those old enough to remember: Joe Pisarcik fumble - Giants vs. Eagles

True, this should not cost Cristobal his job. But he didn't learn from his mistake from 2018; he did it again against GT. People, more importantly fans, are buying in? Not by the size of the crowds at Miami's home games they are not. That's just a fact. Will the crowds come back, hard to tell. Love the show.

It’s called VICTORY FORMATION for a reason

Great job on reporting a very crazy disaster in the Miami game. I'm a Miami fan totally. You helped me see this from a different view point. Thanks 👍 Go Canes 🎉 I still believe Miami will have a great year.

Problem isn’t the decision in an of itself, it’s the fact he clearly doesn’t learn from his own mistakes. And not just repeating this mistake, it’s the overall same program he had at Oregon, an excellent recruiter and a poor developer and in game coach

I cant say im not crying irl for real no cap but.... the U means so much to our city.... they are an extension of ourselves

You are a young 4 & 5 star recruit watching this game from the sideline 😂what are you thinking 🤔? Do I really want to be here?

never ignore in victory what you wouldn’t in defeat.

I'm a miami fan and I cannot tell you the words that were said after that run. Still cannot understand

Mario wants to run the ball and control the clock. Miami should be, and I say this as an FSU fan hoping it never happens, running the Briles offense at warp speed with a super aggressive take away or bust defense.

The point wasn’t that he made a mistake it’s that he gets paid millions to coach football and let something happen that a high school coach wouldn’t allow.

Let's be honest, yes the Team as a whole takes the loss and they were favorites. It's clear they overlooked their opponent and never should have even been close at the end. With all that said, there is ABSOLUTELY NO reason for the coach to call anything other than a kneel down. This one's on the coach

The elbow was down. It was not a fumble. But college refs have shown they don't know what the rules are.

He did this at Oregon as well and cost a game against Stanford. Same exact poor decision.

The game back in 2018 it wasn’t exactly the same as what Miami did against Georgia Tech but still it could’ve been done a lot. Better back then in 2018.

What's crazy is the ball carrier was so obviously down.

I too got a full academic scholarship and I too have a weird pencil story. I once decided to use my Nike Shox as a pencil holder and I wound up stabbing myself in the ankle. To this day there’s still a little grey dot there

A few points to make, but first. I completely agree with not firing for this, and it being a complete bone headed decision. Just to push your point even more on that topic. Let’s say he doesn’t learn and does this once every 5 years. I’ll gladly take 5 top 10 recruiting classes in a row to give up 1 stupid decision game. Because let’s be honest, who else loses that way and gets a 4 star commit in less than 24hours. Aside from that, i did notice you had the fumble playing on screen, can we not bring up how obvious it was that his elbow was down before the defender attempted to strip the ball. I feel bad that these kids on Miami have to keep playing the 12th man in black and white. Let’s take a second to review. Chaney’s fumble, is not a fumble, which lead to GT 6 points. She’s Cooper’s holding call, which lead to removing 7 from Miami. Mauigoa’s roughing the passer which took them out of their own end zone. No holding on GT O-line that lead to King running TD. Constantly holding Miami’s defenders and not one call. Bain is probably the most held defender this season, with not one call. He was even being held as he sacked King. I know the usual saying of don’t leave the game in the ref’s hands, but this is getting too obvious and way too often.ACC refs kept this GT team in the game. All that to say, yes the coach ultimately lost this one, but just like everyone says Cristobal should have never put Chaney in that situation, Cristobal should have never been in the situation either. And before people say I’m excusing him, no I am not. He could have won the ugly game and escaped with a W, but there is enough blame to go everywhere. Not just him.

“They have to be dumb enough to do that, you can’t force them to do that” that should not have been as funny as it was 🤣🤣🤣🤣