Thats the thing, there are obvious reasons why this is bad for worker's efficiency and the company's profit. These CEOs know that. Its not about profit it is about POWER and CONTROL.

I'm a welder, when i felt that employer treats me like an expendable asset i stopped giving fucks about work

Clearly you’re not thinking on their level and treating them like slaves!

once you start going up into larger businesses, that falls apart. mainly because of how "tall" the hierarchy is. competition gets stiffer, politics are expected and there's always someone above you that you have to justify yourself to. it's how shit like "key performance indexes" come about. they take all the factors that go into gauging productivity and boil it down to one number. if your number is bigger than your peers, you "win". so guess what happens when you have a bunch of insecure phonies in the workplace? they start looking for ways they can "win" without having to actually be more effective at their job than others. they're not going to bring up how you have to make less changes, your customers are happier, you spend less time coming up with solutions, or are overall more effective than them. they're going to be bringing up how they spend more time working, how you're on netflix half of the workday, how they type more or click more. mechanical stuff. because that's the only place they can beat you. when there's insecure phonies at every level of an organization, that's when this mechanical based "kpi" thing becomes the standard. because that's the only way they can get higher salary/promotions/survival. they can't out-perform a good employee. but they can out-click, out-type and out-sit them. so guess what "kpi" is going to be set for you?

Wish more felt that way. But, middle managers with no idea about how to run a team feel the need to be "doing something," which inevitably leads to "managing" their people. This monitoring and tracking is killing employees' health, leading to burnout, depression, and other serious mental health issues.

Dude i relate to this

That is a good one!! I’m gonna steal this lol! I’ll tell that to my manager! 🤣🤣😳

Reminds me of a quote a coworker said to our boss when we were really young at our first minimum wage job. The boss told him that he needed to work harder. My coworker said "minimum wage. Minimum effort."

In the USSR the saying was they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work

Soviet Union.

It's true tho, fucking companies

I love walking out on companies that behave like this. No calls, no warning... just leave.

Only should apply to militaries

"Pick up that mouse, citizen" -Combine

sadly it was a one of Citibank rules for developers, it was the worst experience of my entire career

one of my jobs a few years ago, a "team leader" sent me a 15 line email to tell me i was 1 minute late back from lunch..

@@BernhardRutzen Really? This makes me angry. I'd literally go insane if I had to work like that. I'd much rather work in a ditch with a shovel.

jokes on them, i can move my mouse with a python script

Beautiful

Gottem

I don't think the stock price usually has anything to do with the CEO :)

Even a stock price can be dolled up you know. Seriously, I am starting to believe that CEOs are the new snake oil salesmen.

@@oscarrosado6440 Yes, definitely they are.

This is how a lot of "problem solving" jobs are. You spend a good amount of time working through the problem, then you design, build, and implement the solution. I do everything from coding to project management in more than a few fields. A lot of my time is spent drawing things out on paper or discussing the problem with my work ducks.

@Super I have worked with these idiots with fancy MBAs and I know exactly what you mean. They are straightaway put on managerial roles, supervising people they aren't qualified to serve coffee to. Most of these MBA types become tyrannical parasites, making insane promises to the client, and then driving their team to depression to achieve an impossible number at an impossible budget. When after months of sleepless nights, when we somehow do manage to deliver, they spent half a day making a fancy 100 page presentation (with 70 of them being screenshots and designs put together by the team) and gets praised to the skies by the client - proving to the management they were absolutely right in their decision to put a buffoon in charge.

Super correct

@@atharvaprabhu7467 command prompt program

@@rahuldutt1358 What can one do about it Rahul? Maybe contact the client and let them know about what is going on?

Exactly, if I was working intensely at the laptop continuously at software engineering problems, my brain would give up by the early afternoon. It would be like a CPU running at 100% all the time, but humans are not computers.

I make a lot of decisions while slacking. Researching stuff overloads me and I kind of just have to relax to process what can be a lot of info.

It's true for every single job that requires thinking (and actually to a larger extent all jobs, I remember reading about an experiment with rotating production line workers between different roles and it improved their productivity despite the time "wasted" on switching places)

@@wlockhart 100 percent use is fine as long as the brain stays cool. Try placing a heatsink/fan on your head to prevent damaging temps. "Pick up that can!"

If you meet all the deadlines and produce quality code, who cares whether you work 3, 8 or 20 hours a day and what you do in the process? Conversely, if you're not delivering the results, is it really an excuse that you "work hard"?

sammmeeee

Same!

You have nothing to worry about then, they usually do their best to inform you as little as possible about this kind of stuff

Me too. We are so screwed if this is the future.

Same for me. It just reminds me of when I was in school and I'd be working on an assignment or writing a paper and then the teacher would lean over my shoulder to watch me work and then say something like "Pretend I'm not here." But you are in my space and it's incredibly distracting.

Haha :) Absolutely brilliant!!

yes. just yes.

I prefer the analogy "If you have nothing to hide, why do you close the door when you go to the toilets"

Lol beat me to it! I thought Josh would know that famous quote, so I was surprised then checked the comments & well & behold...

@@GleepVonReticuli Lovely!

Double yikes

Contacting HR...

yea, dont touch me dude lolololol

He probably makes closer to 7

@@JoshuaFluke1 or 8, including stock options.

Not even tracking dude, the software does it for them

Welcome to capitalism

@@AshutoshKumar-es8xy Could you not?

this tbh, they always raise our metrics every year without raising our pay, instead they offer "benefits" such as insurance you have to pay for, or a 401k, making only about 20% annually compared to the overall market

Based

is your productivity at least on par on the value that you are paid for? if the answer is no, either I track you and you increase that number, or I don't pay you, fair trade? as an employer, too many workers simply do not work their worth, there are good people that gives the numbers, but far too many are all talk and aren't generating enough value to be paid their salaries its FAIR to pay a worker if he reaches goals, makes sure the results match but far too many others fail and who has to take care of the burden? the employer

@@personspec8881 You signed a contract to pay your employee a certain amount, if they're not providing the value you wanted that's just as much a mistake by the employer as the employee.

@@benjamindover2601 not just that, but as an employer you Have to make sure that the employee you hired provide that value you need, and thats where actions such as these come into play

I'm over 50. It's been like this from my first job to the current one. Nothing new, just a different way to be in your business and criticizing any life style choices you may make. Working life has always been condescending, abusive and invasive. I've never met a boss , supervisor, manager or CEO who didn't think he was a law enforcer or judge and jury.

I’m 50 and this has always been the case in my experience. One of my old bosses once said, “It’s not what you do, it’s what you’re seen to be doing.” Basically, if it doesn’t look like you’re working hard, it doesn’t matter what you achieve. This is why I’m now looking for a new job.

@@leopold7562 this tbh, it doesnt matter how much you actually accomplish unless management knows you did an amazing job at it

​@@leopold7562Thanks for that. I thought of getting a job but I think I should rather start a business instead. I'm not interested in brown nosing because I would rather put my energy into increasing my output but since companies only promote based on visibility then what's the point because no matter how well I do my job it doesn't seem like I will be promoted because I would rather work than kiss ass. I'm an introvert and I don't like people unless we're discussing something work-related but if it's not work-related then I'm not interested in that discussion and would rather just get back to doing my job

Some managers are so dumb that they can't begin to understand what their employees are working on, This makes them think it's easy. If they think mouse movements and keystrokes are the measure of productivity they should supervise typists or data entry staff.

Yeah you can do nothing all day, then open up Word and start pressing random keys and flinging your mouse around and you will soon exceed your performance quota. Only middle management can come up with such dumb ideas.

@@BillClinton228 that's what will break the neck of many good employees. the good ones try to keep up with the pace. try to get shit done, while the workload continuously increases, because the leeches have created an bot typing random words and moving the mouse

And with watching your emails. And your phone calls.

"Gaming" --> win

I wouldn't say that. Every CEO is different. Some are better leaders than others. The ones who can't lead use bs software to track their employees to make themselves feel better.

@@HH-le1vi I would imagine there is a difference between privately-owned businesses or LLCs and ones that are publicly traded and have investors. I mean if the CEO owns the company the only person he answers to is himself, which can be bad or good but having stockholders and a board seems to always be bad for employees.

I agree. High level management is a breeding ground for psychopaths.

@@HH-le1vi It's a documented fact that psychopaths seek out positions of power...

@@Skyhawk656 that doesn't make every CEO a fucking psychopath.

well, there's a reason why they prefer the unhelpful person with the high number of calls. and the reason is that *dum dum dummmmmm* they're not looking to help people. they're actually looking to be as unhelpful to as many people as possible. other than banks, this applies to telcos, insurers, chains like walmart and more.

Priceless.

This is why I ALWAYS take the survey at the end of the call. If they blew me off then I give them the lowest score possible, but if they and stayed and helped or at least tried to but failed then I give them the highest score possible. I hope it helps you out but probably not.

it's what they incentivize for. NPS vs Volume of calls. People are still under the impression today, that quantitative data equals success. Which is why their businesses fail to scale up and have quality products that actually solve problems for the people that consume them. :/ Fact some middle manager needed a promotion and they probably set the KPI for calls. Some tend to use fluff data to either get a promotion, or just keep their departments afloat for a while longer if their funding is cut off.

@@SorinJurcut this mindset (quantity over quality) come from the factory worker mindset. The worker who puts together 50 widgets on the assembly line is more productive than the one who only managed to build 20. The CEOs who created job expectation culture came from the factory industry/ industrial revolution era. That factory worker mindset does not work well with most jobs, but this mindset pervades all of work culture

Sorry to hear that I don’t blame you

Quarantine exposed the true colors of a lot of bosses. You might've dodged a bullet there

HR forgot about the 'human' part

Please tell the name of the company and the field, so other people can stay away.

Not alone. And that's not someone you ever want to work for in the long-term

is it not 80% of managers have no or negative impact on the company?

@@ZipMapp i doubt that

@@atrox7685 Yeah ok

@Paulonbass 75 You not finding a buzzfeed article doesn't mean there's no data

@@ZipMapp If you're talking about what I think you are then yeah there was that one research about large corporations (and all large, complex structures in general) in which 80% of their *employees* cause more loss than gain which is entirely possible (baby shark tutududutudu), however it's a very rough estimate which doesn't take into consideration things like security, cleanliness, impossibility of accurate productivity evaluation and the fact that it doesn't correlate with actual gains and other factors. It's obviously especially hard to evaluate the productivity of managerial work but also solving problems of high complexity etc.

Then what happeend to your friend, was she selected?

@@BigBrother4Life They are a stand up comic so it was literally a joke they wrote and performed; that is their job so they dont have to deal with this shit anyway lol

@@matthewsommerville88 Not a bad question actually :)

Love it. LOL!

That can actually be a very legit question to ask the interviewer. It's obviously quite risky but, hey, if they don't like it you probably dodged a bullet anyway.

I thought that was an HR violation (tactile leader). #MeToo lawsuit.

Tactile leaders should probably be locked up

“tactile leader” = sex harraser

It's a fact of life that most people in managerial positions got there because they want to control people and if you have doubts about it think about it this way. Why would they hire a manager (or a CEO) from outside the company instead of promoting someone within the company who has skills and knowledge of the business?

"I wanna see 'em, I wanna feel 'em-" I'm writing my sexual harassment claim as we speak.

This is very apt. You live by the sword, you'll die by the sword.

I bet his employees are below age xD

🤣🤣🙊🙈🙉

Yeah I thought that was a little weird too XD

That guy's a sleezbag

That's a mega-yikes

The good ol boys club

New profiting from the old, sell them a bunch of tools they don't understand so they can destroy themselves faster

Hi rollo ✌

Fake Rollo ?

@@ilikerunning580 yeah, in the alternatives to capitalism you get more reliable technologies for that such as the KGB and the STASI. A new model has been implemented recently in Seattle.

Lol ya that ones been around for a while its great for when you are trying to figure something out but still need to look like you are working.

Lol! Great idea! I know enough Python and Powershell (self taught, not formal certification yet) to do just that if it ever came to it. I don't think it will, I have a pretty good job and workplace environment where all the technicians are granted a large amount of trust and leeway in how we manage our various responsibilities and customers. But still, I'll remember this idea just in case.

Like Homer Simpson

That only works if you can actually install something on your computer. Ours are locked down only IT can install something.

@@cw2054 Clone the drive. Work on the cloned install until you can crack it. Reimage the original drive with your cracked image. Physical access to the hardware is pretty much game over for security.

Bingo. Rigged the economy for that indentured servitude... know they can't expect any loyalty back, so they bring in the AI overseers.

The cheapest labor, working only for money people the work is awful, given little to no training, or any indication that the company is looking out for them. Why would this possible be an antagonist relationship?

Let’s compare salaries while we are at it

“We can just tell these idiots that it’s for them to compete with each other.”

Hate how competitive workforce is

notice how all the one who said this, are useless liberal arts major soyboys

Isn't that what all people tell you NEVER to do?

Exactly!!

And I am sure by firing a boss that spends so much time on the golf course we will definitely cover the loss and get more in profit

Bel Diman Completely besides the point. The point is they should also be fire if they fail to meet their responsibilities. How much they make is completely irrelevant to the point.

@@SuperStarTidus18 I am not sure if the CEO salary is irrelevant to the profits of the company. And the same goes for other middle management roles. I have been in situations where small companies improved seriously on their profits after getting rid of the CEO and several other micro-managing bosses.

Bel Diman It’s not irrelevant to profits. It is irrelevant to my original comment.

Like Peterson said : You're not free if you can't say no. Or you're a slave if you can't say no. Can't remember but meaning is the same :D

your freedom is yours to fight, no companies are going to pity you by giving what you want, its YOU and only YOU that must FIGHT to GET IT

@@personspec8881 Not how it works, exploiter.

@@personspec8881 we shouldn't have to fight for what's ours already. What are you, Russian?

@@BichaelStevens Evidently it’s not ours already judging by the channel we’re commenting on even existing. America was founded on fighting for freedom. If you are not willing to fight for it, then it will be gone.

literal king simp shit lol

^^^^^

He/She probably had to pay the bills, yo

This doesn't really seem that hard to get around. Couldn't you just use a virtual machine and run a separate OS on it on your own private network that is not being monitored by your employer? Then your free to still watch youtube, netflix, podcasts all you want? Just add a screen to your rig and put in the background above a screen. Hell just use a seperate laptop and attach the HDMI and put another small keyboard near your work one. Seems like there is a lot of ways to get around employer tracking. Personally I used to do IT but couldn't stand the office bullshit and all snowflakes in the office and just left and became a truck driver. 2 years in I'm making around 70k, home overnight, half the day I'm sitting around playing PUBG on my laptop in the truck (mobile hotspot) waiting to be loaded, offloaded, etc. I don't know why people have to ruin this career for people. Layout the reasonable amount of work you want done in a day, let the programmer, IT guy, etc know (ex you are expected to complete 75 tickets a day as an IT guy). If the employee is meeting the requirements who gives a shit if he's dressed in a onesie cookie monster outfit while watching anime in the background covered in Dorito dust. The work is getting done. I don't know how you guys put up with this shit. I hope they're paying you good.

Make it broken on purpose.

More and more people will have to become 1 man companies, investing in themselves from their own resources and taking their own careers in hand on an ongoing basis over their entire working lives.

No programmer needs any more training they all should just intuitively know how to use the latest programming language so let's spend the money on training and development on tracking software and yachts and jets.

@@kisstune I really don't have a problem with them buying yachts and jets because it's their money. Not that we're talking about organizations with that level of money, but you know what I mean. I just have a problem with idiots who think their business is going to grow by spending on torturing their employees with technology that encourages them to manipulate useless metrics instead of working.

@@totorofosho I don't really care what they do with their money I just say more power to them but I do object when they buy tracking software insteadconventional. Read invest in employees so they get better at their jobs. They could use the money wasted on tracking software to improve morale jets yachts or conventiond. I'm just ranting about how much I hate those programs sorry I wasn't clear about that.

I love your username.

Did you file with a lawyer, sound like retaliation and conspiracy?

Well no physical punishmet is technically an improvement.

@@yoooyoyooo Personally I prefer physical punishment over the mental torture/pressure that corporations put on developers.

"Sending the file in a minute massa, please don't hurt"

yep

Someone's getting laid in college

It really is. In the modern open office, I've always tried to get a place where my back is to the wall. I absolutely hate sitting in a spot where everyone can see what I'm doing.

Just add a poster with some bs work motivational quote on it. If he questions it, just say that having that poster in that exact spot is really helpful for your work ethic.

I also had a glass window behind me which I knew the boss used to look at my screen. One day he was gone for the day, so I sat in his chair and looked at my screen in the window and realized if I dimmed the brightness just enough on the monitor then it wiould no longer appear in the window reflection. The next day he came to work and mentioned my screen brightness. I said "Yeah, it was straining on my eyes, so I turned it down. " He never mentioned or saw my screen again, and had no idea I knew his secret.

I had the same thing at a company I worked at. The bosses offices were all at the back of the office so they walked by everyone's windows going to the kitchen or meeting rooms. We got a group talking to for to many people "playing video games" during work.... We were a game development team.....

@@nicholaslogan5185 lmfao

Call a sexline and have the last laugh.

Sounds like "The Office".

@@markarca6360 idk about that, but I DO know that Ryan started the fire

Definitely something Michael Scott would say.

I had a boss that would just absolutely grab people by the shoulder and jostle you around alot. I hated that job.

@@Waitwhat469 I could see that getting annoying real quick.

I instantly thought that this was a way for managers to pretend that they are managing in order to justify their employment. They probably know their position could be eliminated and need something to show the higher-ups. Tracking productivity of workers is as easy as seeing the results of their effort. Couldnt a manager have a zoom call with their employees at the end of the day to go over what was accomplished by the employee, and what the next task would be? No, because that would total 2 hours, and the managers have to keep up the farce that their position shouldnt be eliminated or consolidated.

@@montesforeman5079 Yeah I read an article in harvard business review recently, regarding working from home, which said any manager who can't judge and employees performance by results/deliverables alone isn't qualified to be a manager. This is why college is so expensive now, managerial bloat.

@@Will_Moffett Thats exactly right. Throw in the fact that student loans are guaranteed the Universities know that a near endless amount of money is going to go their way. They can pickpocket the future earnings of their students. University doesnt have to set a price that people are willing to pay, they set a price on what people are willing to gamble for the chance of an increased future income.

@@montesforeman5079 the problem is accountants. It departments will always and forever be seen as cost centers at least in my industry and not revenue centers so we always struggled to demonstrate that we were providing value to the organization even though it would completely fail without us. So I've come to learn the value of demonstrating fancy spreadsheets showing cost savings to upper management because otherwise some accountant will recommend your department just gets dissolved.

FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't always do background checks on the interviewer before and got burned twice and now I do. I always let the call go to VM so I can get the phone interviewers name and see what I can find on them and I do the same before going into the interview when they tell me who to ask for when I walk into the door. Do diligence is important. Oh and I ask questions in the interviews both on the phone and in person some standard questions some not so much just to get a reaction etc. and gauge their response.

@@kisstune what questions do you ask them?

@@lisar915r9 1. What percentage of your employees were hired by internal recommendation? (This is an indication of how good or crappy they are cause if they wouldn't recommend them to their friends than you don't want to work there.) This could also be posed into the how many times have you earned referral bonus/award for jobs as well. This can also tell you if the place is more like the boss is hiring all their sibs and kids which can be a bad sign too. Yes I heard this one too as in they said "my sister, my daughter and my son all work here in this site." 2. Tell me about your career path with the company. (This tells you if the recruiter and interviewers were hired or promoted which gives indications of promotion time frame and opportunities if any) Yes I've seen them hesitant to tell me so I noped out of there. Worst this has happened a few times. 3. What do you expect the ideal candidate to accomplish during the first three months?/ What''s the most important thing I could do within my first 90 days. (This tells what is most critical and how bad crunch is and how much pressure you will be under). 4. What’s your favorite and least favorite part of working here? (This forces them to admit to some fault which if they don't or they pull something very superficial like "my least favorite thing is we have too many choices in the break room for free stuff to snack on" They should be honest about it.

@@kisstune Great question. Thank you. I'll start asking it from now on.

What is that 1 day in the office for though?

Computers are cheap. A second laptop that you personally own will likely fit on your desk and nobody can monitor your background KZfaq and Netflix watching.

Me too kevin, I will have my personal laptop next to the company laptop and will watch a show of some kind, or music, or whatever while I'm working.

Actually i think there is research that shows that working from home increases productivity in general.

boomer: 100

Here’s what’s really crazy. Anyone who’s worked for a big company knows that the top performers often do way more than their share of the work, including constantly helping other people in the company. If your new fancy tool keeps the low performing workers in the line but cost you the high performers, your business will fail in the long run (or at least your labor costs will go way up).

"this is a sure-fire way to ensure talent flight and leave yourself with the bottom of your existing workforce." correct. that is the exact plan. organizations are full of insecure phonies making decisions like this for the sole purpose of getting rid of threats to their position/promotion. they're not going to out-perform an effective worker. but they sure can out-click and out-type them. so guess what their subordinates are going to be judged on?

Not to mention the moron managers who buy this stuff dont realize they could be buying SPY SOFTWARE from CHINA! lol And all they think about is spying on their employees....meanwhile Chinas spying on them 🤣🤣🤣 God bless the modern world

@@Macheako I don't think people understand that the more conduits you establish for communications the more ways there may be to hack people and even companies.

@@jsuazo2011 no...they dont....so we gonna learn this one the hard way 🤣👌🏻

In Europe this kind of software isn't even allowed.

@@oourdumb How is that disgusting? Monitoring is only used here in case of severe suspicion. I rather be innocent until proven guilty. not Guilty until proven innocent. Trust is a two way street, my employers trusts me, I trust my employer. And the other way around. Furthermore, not all work can be seen by just moving a mouse around. People have meetings, do a lot of thinking, I work in a field (IT) where a lot of metrics are just so random all the time, this cannot even be put into a productivity score. And yes my employee trusts me, trust can also be good for productivity. Of course you get slackers. But those people tend be in the open and fail anyway.

ALL of the elites in this modern world are literally in the process of enslaving the majority of humanity. They are not even being discreet about it. Sad part is that the majority of humanity would likely be more "comfortable" as slaves. Most people are more comfortable being told what to do as opposed to trying to figure it out on their own.

@Giorgio Mumda Lol. This reminds me of a day in 10th grade. We were being asked questions by the teacher. She was reading out of a workbook. When she told the entire class that the answer to the question was "C," I raised my hand and said, "C is wrong." I kept insisting that C was wrong (as if workbooks cant have mistakes) and eventually got kicked out of the classroom. I don't remember being too much of a dick about it, but my critical analysis definitely led me to believe that was the incorrect answer. Anyway, I've never been one to not question things. I have to know WHY. If that is an issue for anyone, we won't get along.

This is why unions are always under the gun by these corporations

But unions destroy muh FREEZE PEACH!

@@goinggoinggone535 did you see amazons fake media accounts that were posting anti-union stuff lol

@@stepanvinnikov6024 the protection from being fired or the unity between workers which part does "it suck"?

You can get fired and they can shut you up. Unions are powerful instruments

propose something to a manager, AVP, or CEO about implementing this kind of work tracker to them and it being tied to their pay, watch how many complaints come flying. they dont do shit but talk

Exactly, almost

@Tracchofyre There is a trend towards inverted "T" shaped organisations in which the middle layers of management are stripped out and you are left with a large number of individual contributors reporting directly to a company CEO or principal. Many jobs are now assignments or "gigs" done on a temporary basis for a limited time. Job security and long term tenure and loyalty are dead in the water. This is what scares middle management drones, their lack of value and worth to a company is now obvious in these strange times.

Guess they werent "stuck" working in an office with ppl they didnt care about

Stop making sense, Dave.

no tasteless brown powder work coffee.

We further need to get past the idea that people can or even should be maximally productive for the whole work day. If you have periods of time in your day where you're not productive at all because your brain is friend and you need a break, that is absolutely okay. We shouldn't allow businesses to pursue their bottom line over our own well-being, and overwork is definitely a detriment to our well-being.

@@jeffreyfreeland5942 yea no one works all day even the hardest workers lol. In my experience also... the hardest workers don't receive the perks for being the hardest workers.

Step 1: Place mouse on floor. Step2: Listen to music. Step 3: Tap foot to music so mouse twitches and software sees mouse movement. Step 4: Profits.

especially in any type of creative field, such as software developer / designer. You need that 'down time' mental break in order to fuel your creativity!!

@@kisstune definitely 😁

Emails? They've got far, far more interesting data than just your emails. Essentially any and all communications, as well as things like geotracking. Super fun! /s

holy crap your right i didnt realize the first time i heard it

this made me laugh, its great

Are you self employed???

@@zeuskronos2018 self employed is like unemployed

@@new_sovietwave I’m unemployed and I’m sure I’m not self employed 🙃

@@zeuskronos2018 I am unemployed too and I feel happy about it for at least as soon as my unemployment days are not ran out which is about 200 more. I just hope to outlive the current state of the world shits and see any better employment opportunities :)

Yeah which justifies their salary and job

It's an ai

It's basically micromanaging, and a lame attempt at it too

"tactile leader" he likes to touch people?

@@michellejarvis7878 that may be the reason he want his employees at the office lol.

He's more of a control freak rather than a leader

Because that requires effort and an understand of how their business actually works beyond dollar go up dollar good

Control.

We know you have a 25gb 02 folder

I hope this happens to every single one of these bastards.

It's voluntary as much as agreeing to fuck a stranger on a boat is.

Publish the manager’s stats using the same software. Unless they have something to hide.

... and that's the whole point, to incriminate you into something, anything. Bosses who trust their employees and have a good relationship with them will never use this software. This software is for paranoid control freaks who are constantly on the lookout for an excuse to give out warnings and fire people. This software does not constitute "working in good faith" by definition. I've also noticed this in alot of interviews especially in the tech industry. People are constantly looking for reasons to disqualify you as a candidate, and they focus more on the experience you dont have than the experience YOU DO have. For example, you might be a programmer with alot of experience in several programming languages that the company uses, but if you havent worked with a framework they use, then you are considered to be unqualified for the position. Wait a minute, so you are telling me that a senior developer with over 10 years experience in different fields and languages can't learn a simple framework????

"They don't even know what these numbers mean, they just make them look pretty." I deal with this constantly at my warehouse job. We get new managers in there all the time that will flood the shit out of my department thinking more work will get done. Problem is the department has a set capacity at how much we can fit in it and process at a time, and every time they flood us, we end up with late or incomplete trucks because we aren't able to organize and process all of what they're sending us in one huge chunk. Then they want to come down and argue with people who have been working there for a year or longer. All they're seeing is the stuff getting scanned in. They aren't paying attention to anything else we have to do to it before it gets to the truck.

Most of us work for such guys

lol I would like too see them try too track my gnoo slash loonux machine

Ugly inside and out. Fat baldy 😂🤣

Yeah, it's just that we're putting new coversheets on all the TPS reports *before* they go out now.

They are.

Set your firewall to block everything except stuff you definitely know isn't spying on you, browser, dev environment etc. May be tedious, but totally worth it.

Yes, you would. When water and electricity has been shut off... When the fridge is empty... When the car's been repossessed... When the bank is threatening to take the house... Then you will take whatever job you can get, no matter how bad it is. That's the way these companies work. Desperate people don't complain...

Exactly!

Good point sir, this is why I suggest we start working from your house. I'm still not wearing clothes unless you pay me extra though.

Here's how I manage the people under me: If I am happy with your performance for the you do the thing, I tell you.

that's called being a general contractor I believe. Hiring independent contractors. I personally would be of the mindset that I pay you what it's worth to me to have you work for me, If you do the things I ask with in reason then you don't get fired, if you exceed expectations, or show you are worth more than I was initially aware of then you get a raise to whatever your new worth to the company is. It isn't difficult and I don't get why some people allow themselves to get corrupted chasing a dollar sign. At the end of the day money isn't worth anything if you don't have a purpose for it

Not necessarily. They can just burn through hordes of people endlessly or until they realise something is not right in there. A company I worked for has been continually relentlessly hiring for 3 years. In my 2 years there, half of the people I knew decided to quit. This is the badly managed profit-at-any-cost machine.

Also of managerial incompetence. They legit don't understand WHAT their employees do.... But they better be doing something!! 🤣👍🏻

The are betting on the psychological effect that you'll work harder when you think they are watching you and you see how much harder your co workers work.

Completely agree. It's also kind of a personality projection, a recognition of their own untrustworthiness.

Now, a lot of companies insist on you given them your LinkedIn IRL as part of the application process. I need to create a dummy one that only spews, "I love working OT!" and "Bosses are the best" or some crap like that.

their idea is " well, your productivity dipped by 0.1%, any problems at home ? " kinda situation. I am already monitored plenty as it is since i have been WFH as an accountant , this too could be another layer of hell.

Exactly. If the deliverable is met on time, it doesn’t matter what I did up to that point.

if you finish after 1 hour what I assigned to take 5 hours, I can pay you the same amount to do more work!

@@rickross9829 if the average guy takes 5 hours to finish it and it takes someone 1 then if he can do more in the same time is he getting a better pay or is the company uderpays him for his talent?

Chris Gk underpays for talent

Because boomers.

War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Spying is Transparency.

@@jamesmiller2521 Well put.

@@jamesmiller2521 lol I thought of Orwell a well. That's doublespeak if anything

"TransparentBusiness" is the perfect name for it! It is a business that makes everything so transparent that nobody can hide

@@beldiman5870 It's a one-way mirror.

Pretty certain thats not true

@@freshswagga100 even if it's not true, it's true in the long term. The best employees won't like being tracked then move their skills to a different company.

@@Bryan-wb7te possibly. Still doesnt refute the claim that they are more productive while being monitored. Whether they stay employeed with a certain company or not is not a factor.

@YEET YEET y u gotta be dick. How is OP any different? He made a bold claim without any research the same as me

My I wrote a paper in my MBA program about employee motivation. All of the research pretty much indicates the more freedom you give to employees, the happier and more productive they are. Look there will always be bad apples, but all this monitoring shit is just going to make the good employees just keeping up appearances because they are miserable to "force" the sand baggers to have some semblance of productivity. That simply is not an effective model.

i found meself moving the mouse just because of shit like this.

In the future artists will get number of brush strokes counted so any time they spend thinking on what to paint, how it should look, color of paint, or mixing paint will not count and therefore they are a bad painter and shouldn't be patronized.

I love the pencil and paper approach. But according to such tracking software I will have almost zero productivity...

except you wouldn't cos if they're going to monitor you like that you can sure as hell bet your ass your machine is so locked down you can't run anything thats not sanctioned......sad but true.

@@stuontwo677 A,lso, they might be monitoring the files that you are working on.

At my work this is close to what's happening. Instead of focusing on providing value, we instead feed a machine to increase the numbers on our various dashboards. We've become masters of doing the exact same work but maximizing our stats through filler and other bullshit. Management is putting the cart before the horse here but.. if it's what they want then we'll give it to them.

Government funding for scientists (Czech here) tends to be locked by absurd paperwork of this "scoring" type. Needless to say, the scientists tend to be quite smart, so the computational chemists wrote a "paperwork bot" to feed the paperwork with credible-enough bullshit so they can do what they should and want to do - the actual scientific work.

@@stuontwo677 if a software developer can't find a solution to such a technical problem, then they probably aren't very good at there job anyway. This isn't magic, just more buggy software taking advantage of a manager class unwittingly putting themselves in position to be replaced.

Wtf? Very cringe...I'd like him to "feel" me so I can slap the company with a huge sexual harassment suit and drive them outta business!