damny0utoobe gotta love that

YES

It’s so nice over here

Good

I hope it worked out! Sounds like it was their loss 👍

I found out the man I was training, who had no previous experiance in the field and had to be taught everything from the ground up, was getting paid $1.25 more than me the senior installer and department lead. Went to the boss about it and got told that corporate would only allow a $1 raise for me and that they couldn't afford more than that. Long story short, stopped training anyone, I bought a house in another city, got a new job, sceduled my two-week vacation, gave my 2 week-notice on the last day before my vacation, and left them completely in the dirt with no one even remotely qualified to take over my position and no one with experience willing to move to the area. I told everyone in the store what I was making before I left and had all they employees discussing their pay and outraged. We found out that many of the female employees were making significantly less than our male trainees and so many people left shortly after I did. Everyone also knew exactly how much my trainee made and refused to consider taking my postition without making $1.00 more than him or become trainees for less than equal to his pay. It was a beautiful experience. They could have just paid me an extra dollar an hour and I probably would still be working there, running the stores most profitable department without them having to lift a finger, but here we are. I wish my male trainee all the best though, even he went to our manager and said he'd look for a new job if they didn't start paying me more than him. Bless his heart.

I assume that you’re not a proofreader.

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@@Wisdom-Nuggets-Tid-Bits I didn't leave a single thing out. You misunderstood the intent of my statement. Salary negotiations are for people that ALREADY have a solid foundation and have put in their time and paid their dues. I have no idea why you would assume that I meant this for people applying for entry-level positions. I'm as real as they come brutha! :-)

@@melmagallon6233 Brutal

You also have to hope that the person isnt like me. If someone tries to play hardball and makes me uncomfortable my only reaction is “must not give them anything even if it means my companies downfall” Luckily im self aware and know that isnt good for a company but there are definitely people that spiteful in positions of power.

exactly i just grabbed a job after being laid off due to covid. my last employer offered me $53k. my new employer asked me what i want. i told them i want what i was making at my last job. i told them $67k. they bought it. my next job i look for im asking $80k.

yeah, a company will fire you for asking for a raise after being employed there for 1 month because they see you as too demanding, good advice for getting fired quickly though!

@@luizcastro5246 where the fuck did you see “when employed for a month” in this comment?

@@luizcastro5246 They meant when you're interviewing at other companies. Why would anyone ask for a raise at the same company? Most of the time they won't give it anyways lmao

​@@lashondamiller2982or you get a 3% raise which is basically a slap in the face

Wow the feels on that. She knows it's going to turn into an employment loop because she knew that position wasn't paying enough for the skills and experience it required. Meaning in another 6 months they will be trying to find someone else when you leave. xD

One that names the number first, is in worse negotiation position. When they ask, ask what their range is or what they are offering.....or say some BS like to deflect it.

I did something similar. I was asked what I wanted and I shorted myself. I said 12 and it was given to me without a fight. 2 and a half years later I'm only at 15. Everyone has a pay range all over the place even old guys with pay below me.

That's why you should always say some crazy number you think you won't get, worst case you dont get it but at least you're never shorting yourself.

Should’ve asked for $1mil

to the first point, I don't think most people know how to do that and they are usually fed the line of *pick a job* and *work* , *not* pick a job and *try to squeeze the employer out of his money* . humans tend to want to be helpful; the schools are also based on the *Prussian model* which encourages workers who *ironically don't think cause they don't have the time for it* ... I mean why else do they design schools as prisons with fencing, no access from outsiders, and regimented schedules mostly out of your control? for safety? yes that's a byproduct... but not the intended function... they *prepare* you for *work* ... not *wealth* . I mean most don't read Robert Kyosaki's work (which feels like an opposite to Dave Ramsey's advice of save, its 'spend others money') which talks about how the rich move, not just the poor... working off of what gave him wealth, not a suggestion of thought or dogma... though Dave got wealthy by making an asset and selling it... his advice. also, I am going to take that list as well and use the hiring sites salary as a reference until I completely know my worth isn't completely based on that... though if they are willing to pay more, well, I am going to have a better life. Hope you have a great day & Safe Travels!

5. Give them your salary: current one +30%

@@cipryan96 +20%* as many roles depending on sector include a 10% differential already

If they ask for current salary, I always add roughly 20-30k or ~20% ontop.

Space Meter haha nice man

Space Meter True! It’s all relative, how much you work should be compensated fairly!

Damn Straight...Sometimes desperation leads us not to ask the serious questions on interviewers.

Yeah, they always act like it should be your dream and purpose in life to create decent software based on their dumb business ideas.

Exactly.I've worked in many different industries, and that's ALL it comes down to; who gets paid for YOUR work.Usually it's the middle managers, that is, presuming the actual managers are already taking their 200 percent. LIE all you must.As long as you can do the work, they can rarely check it.

LMFAO!!! damn i have never thought that way.

GENERAL KENOBI

Fyi, HRs have a secret network and they do talk and they already know what your salary is. When you do that, they basically gauge how much you really want and if they can cover it. If it is too much, they simply won't give it to you and look at someone else who wants less.

It's actually against the law to ask for someone's past salary in my state(illinois). They may however ask what your desired salary is.

In europe its forbidden for past jobs to give away the salery amount you made to the new company its private and should always stay between the company and you... Sure me and my friends always talk about how much one another makes to gauge if we dont get ripped off so there is that.

The owners and managers of any company themselves have multiple sources of income. Its stupid to not allow employees such.

If they paid you well enough you wouldn't need to moonlight or side gigs.

@@dhenderson1810 true, though my side gigs and moonlighting are in show business.

Lol

I talk to dogs like they are toddles and toddlers like they are dogs.

Guilty as changed lol.... But it is a sausage dog so.....

@@AlbertBuckinghamEllison Nice

Doggies actually like being talked to like they're toddlers, after all wHo'S a GOoD bOYY, wHOs is a gOOD boYY

Your last salary: 70k They say: 50k You say you want now 80k They say it s a good agreement for 60k = Wrong strategy Always put 20k on top

🤣🤣🤣 I hope someone does this & records it

Ikr

"No because we love our job and work overtime because we value what we do" Yeah sure lol

@@spacemeter3001 If you value what you do you should ask more money for it but whatever haha

@@dubnationx86i Exactly 😁

@@spacemeter3001 u joke but gaming companies pull that shit all the time

And "Unlimited Vacation" means very limited PTO or else you're fired without severance pay.

Competitive pay for me has usually meant similar to higher end of market rate. Sometimes even Silicon valley rates.

@@beverlymontgomery9105 unlimited vacation is a joke except for in government jobs. but i do expect a min 1 month vacation per year cumulative that carries over to the following year.

competing with minimum wage lol

Y'all catchin on to how terrorists run the game. Let me help finish your education, read the book Rich Dad Poor Dad, the war is economic and dont forget it.

Yeah... I’m just gonna leave this comment here and screenshot this for future references :))

Did this for my current interview in the finance industry for a sales job. Panel interview turned into just me with the the reps. They asked some questions and I took control of the conversation once they realized I didn’t need the job. Hope to hear back from them soon just because they all still liked me enough to give me a tour of the place. Should hear back from them the latest tomorrow

@@kevinmarquez944 any updates?

@@FreelanceFadi They haven't called since :D.

Building skills and experience, switching jobs and starting high are all keys imo.

Problem with that is fear they might reject you for it.

I'd also like to see them cover legal areas from misdemeanors and felonies to workers' rights.

Yes and no, if the schools only teaches the essentials “life lessons” people are gonna be absolute morons and ignorants. Even now people dont believe in virus or that earth is not flat. It should be a balance in beetwen.

@@alech3284 that's only in America

@@johnapple6646 no, it also happens outside US I'm from outside US

“The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.”

Tiny rich country: Monaco or Switzerland?

@@snarlymacsnarls488 why not Singapore?

@@rcoverc Gibraltar they use British money.

Part of the reason why you have an amount in your mind and then you hold your ground. Asking for the salary range they might say for example 70-90k, when in reality its probably 100-120k. You can always just respond saying "I am looking more in the range of around 110k", if they say no then that is that but sometimes they may come back and miraculously have negotiated internally that the budget was increased a day later lmao.

I did, I love that book

Literally got an ad for his master class before this vid.

Sergeant1127 me too man lol

Ty for the reco

This. There's no such thing as negotiating

This is why you press for them to give the first number/official offer. After they want you is when it's the easiest to call back and ask for "wiggle room" or say "is it possible for you to get closer to this other offer I have, as I mentioned earlier I am currently interviewing with others?" You gotta play the game of life while be kind yet direct. If you have leverage and want to value your time as much as possible you will do yourself the favor and ask for more before signing at the very least. The worst outcome is they say no if they've already showed their hand officially with a offer letter then you can accept that prior value.

Long month*

You forgot the whiskey.

Gin and tonic, with cranberry juice for me.

Yes listen to this man

He lost that negotiation.

literally how i went from 60k-90k

@@rustydusty275 nice

But like how do you lie considering they ask for an official paper that presents your taxes and contributions for the last X months...they for sure can figure it out that u lie

@@popamihnea6695 I am in the US and I don't believe that is a common practice here -- at least not anymore. I have never been asked for tax information or anything like that for any job ever, and if asked I have the option to politely decline giving them that private information.

@@popamihnea6695 say no and if you don’t get the job be glad.

Better change job after 1/2-1 year, I guess?

Yeah get some experience for a year or two and build up your finances, then look for that next job that’s going to give you a big raise

How did you get the job?

@@ne9835 I applied and went through two interviews with them. Watching dev blogs like this helped me with keywords and knowledge of workflow that I wouldn't have had from just school alone which helped me land the job.

@@Zeakuro And people say that KZfaq is stupid. Good for you man, I don't know you but I'm legitimately proud of you dude.

Nope. That's how you get bad workers. You wanna pay me 10/hr? That'll get you record and report. You want me to carry? That'll be anything above $10.50hr. You want me to confront, detain or do anything more? That'll be at least $15/hr. You pay minimum wage, you should have minimum expectations... (I work in private security for context.)

@@theblackcatvieweraccount5402 being paid to carry a gun and potentially detain a suspect should warrant the same hourly pay as local PD. 15 an hour is a fucking joke.

Huehuebue

But those were wasps. this is funnier. Its W-rolls

Why would you not

Joshua Fluke touché

Yeah lose the distracting video game

Companies never do that.

I would never go for that. Chances are they will come up with reason not to give the increase.

Like 9 times out of 10 they won't do it, or maybe give you a minimal increase. Unless you get it in writing, not worth the risk. Stand your ground. I had my literal manager essentially tell me "you signed the paperwork at the agreed wage. We have no right to increase it"

@@rafael502 That is 2 years old comment. I get it, let it go

I find this shit hilarious and dumb. Probably for a meager 50 - 60K salary too with decent benefits. They won't want to pay you for all that overtime because then you wouldn't need it.......you would be good (lol). I say keep the salary and job requirements to the job, don't worry about my business outside of work unless you're buying me a house, car, and retirement. xD

now that is a timely response, be sure to add 8 years of inflation and late fees for them. lol

Yes absolutely

yeah, would love to see that too

Problem solving, coding, sales skills (soft skills)

Lie....

@@SherrellWrites exactly

Wishing you the best in your new role! Never hurts to keep up the hunt just for the hell of it and work on new connections that might be able to refer you later on too :)

No company is short in cash in tech business they have 95% + markup

Which language?

@@YiGzit Scala

@@VISOX Data Engineering & Parallel processing related? Time for me to pick up Scala too.

@@nasdin94 kind of but also very classical problems like to create an REST API or wrap communication with your DB, i do also frontend with scala :) (but i would not suggest it as the first thing to do with scala) ... So i learned my first bits on scala with a coursera course that was made by the creator of scala. GL

Don't forget the dogs!👍

I'm going to do that.

Yeah I had someone reach out to me and I just told them I need over double that to even begin a conversation. Some jobs really do pay absolute garbage and it seems the recruiters most interested in being direct and getting a conversation going are for those terrible establishments. Or, Amazon or others who just blast out recruiters to get everyone to apply to technical roles and go through their online tests.

lol I would of just said 1K lower then my initial offer to trigger them

If you aren't tired, you're not working hard enough. If you're not hungry, you'll never fight for a full meal. Stay hungry squad.