Be a boss, not a boomer - grindreel.academy/p/entrepreneurship

I'm a senior software engineer... The best raises you get are when you change jobs 🤷‍♂️

20 managers in a project and only 1 developers, no wonder why the developer wouldn't show up at the office.

I have a boomer boss. These situations are exactly why millennials don't have loyalty to companies. Too many old people running the show.

More meetings to increase productivity? This reminds me of "the beatings will continue until department morale improves!"

People do not leave bad jobs - they leave bad management.

I'm a boomer, (by age) and I approve of this message

When bosses micromanage they create problems that never existed to make themselves feel more important.

"Sometimes he doesn't come in to the office for 2 entire weeks" ... as a programmer, I can tell you that's when he's in the deep-concentration mode required to be that productive. Forcing him to obey stupid pointless rules when he's obviously producing well, will destroy his productivity. If he is clearly productive, then he is best at 'managing himself' to maximize his own productivity.

"Boomer is a mindset, not an age" I LOVE THAT!

I used to work at a company like this. We had 4 managers for every one developer. The company believe it or not decided that hiring more managers to manage the developers was the solution to us not being able to complete tasks on time. Eventually one of our genius managers decided that it was better to just get rid of all the US based devs. He ended up firing all of us except for 3 guys who would be responsible for bug fixes. The rest of the project was outsourced to India. When I asked him why he was firing us he said it was to hard to manage us because we had too many "rights".

20 managers and 1 dev... Dude don't get trolled

If he's doing so well, why do they care how often he is in. What a clusterfuck of managers grappling for control.

I had a boomer boss once get mad at me for trying to calm down an angry co-worker by saying "there is crap here that bothers me as well, but I try to just get along". Like how dare I suggest this minimum wage job isn't perfect.

These managers are literally everywhere. These guys would rather u follow stupid rules that contradict your work, than actually let common sense work. These middle managers are sad people that crave any authority.

I remember being a teenager and looking forward to adults having respect for their job and employees.. little did I know 😅🙄

I'm a scrum master. It's true, we do mostly nothing...except sit around figuring out what to do with our time. Meetings are usually a great answer because "having conversations" makes it look you're doing something.

I've been a developer for a long time and something that I've learned is that management constantly tries to justify their existence. Often times their only reason for doing something is to make it look like they are doing something. I've also been a manager and those above me would get on my case for NOT messing with my good workers. I'm like hey they are top performers and doing a good job I want to leave them alone. Sometimes the manager doesn't even want to mess with the employees but they have someone above leaning on them to do so. Also forget about raises, that went away when Sox was passed into law (Sarbanes Oxley). You either move into a new job and negotiate salary on the new job or move to a new company entirely. Generally speaking you shouldn't stay at the same company more than 3 years if you want high pay.

making people show up to an "office" is about control. It is designed to drain your time and energy and so they can observe you because they want to own you, not pay for your services.

I literally ranted to my wife for 30 mins because my father-in-law is having his screen monitored during his whole shift. This is bull shit, he is almost 60 and this is only happening because he works from home. I am so pissed for him, and it brought back "ptsd" from my 6 years working retail. I ended the convo by stating, if you can't trust me, don't hire me...I'm an adult and you should trust that I am working when I say that I am. Boomer's need to get a clue and it just makes me angry. Thank you for this video. I will state that I work a job without micromanagement and it is such a dream. My wife just got a job without micromanagement and she is seeing what life should be like. Great video.

I have a friend who had a company with interns only. So he had this little office with him and a bunch interns sitting around one big table and nobody was allowed to wear headphones.

7:56 I went through this too, when we moved to working from home, our manager wanted three stand ups a day to check in. Little had changed between them, it disrupted workflow and decreased morale as we would always report "still working on that same ticket" and it sounded like no progress was being made. Even though they're only 5-10 minutes, people are late, or start an off topic conversation. Nightmare. Bet it made him feel productive though, we'd get emails all the time about meetings changing time (even by 5 minutes) or being cancelled and rescheduled. Is that his entire job?

"We need to increase productivity. I know! We'll have three meetings a day that interrupt everyone's workflow and accomplish nothing except to tell my boss that I'm relevant to the company!"

I’m GenX. Boomer bosses were a pain in my ass for the first 15 years of my career. Thank god they’re retiring now. Now I have to keep my fellow X’ers from becoming Boomers 2.0.

Before I quit I was brought into a meeting where I was told due to an accounting error, I was actually making more money for my role than I was supposed to be. They said they weren't going to change my pay but knowing I was actually supposed to be paid less to get verbally abused in my work from home call center job was icing on the cake when I quit with 2 days notice.

Glad you qualified Boomer as a mindset not an age. The best boss I've ever had was a Boomer (age). The worst was too, so...

Being a manager has become a meme.

Im a boomer boss but loved this! Totally agreed with it. The trouble is now there are so many managers paid to ask people what they are doing, then go and tell someone else... that person then tells someone else. This means the people actually doing the work spend their lives giving updates and not being productive, just to keep everyone’s tracker up to date giving the illusion of productivity.

Only a True Scrum Master knows not to have any scrum meetings.

I've quit jobs in less then 3 weeks when I've had a manager like that start getting in my face. I've worked remotely almost my entire career, I don't need to go into an office to do my job, so I don't. Someone contradicts that, then I find another position. It's easy to do when you have a sought after skill set. BTW, you wont' get a useful skill set from college, I had to learn it on my own after I got my engineering degree, which I've never used.

Josh, thanks for defining your interpretation of boomer. I am 68 years old and I bristle at the term when boomers are criticized by young people. However, your definition is well explained and I take no offense. I really enjoy your channel and your videos are well done and you are highly engaging. I have been red pilled in the last two years about the nature of corporate culture and employees. My friends and family tell me stories about their workplaces and management. At first the horror stories seemed to be about a bad manager. The stories became more numerous and dysfunctional. Now I see we live in a world of corporate control, sociopathic CEO’s, and power hungry managers. Employees have little say in their fates. Hard work is frequently punished by managers that are afraid of moving highly productive people to new positions because those workers are difficult to replace. Some managers are intimidated by highly competent people working under them, viewing them as a threat. It is a shame many companies have created workplaces that are little more than indentured servitude.

Whenever I feel tired about working in my current company, I always watch your video and I'm glad my company still look at us employee as actual human

We have a manager of the year. To save company money and motivate his workers to work more for free, he provides his wife. Put the man in an upper management!

"The greatest solutions come when I'm taking a break" Amen. Sometimes the best solution is to take a step back and get a fresh look.

"x person is doing awesome, but i dont like how he's doing it, how do i take him down a notch because im horribly out of touch with basic concepts of management?"

Daily reminder that the best software products usually come from 1-3 person teams

I'm a boomer and even I know how bad boomer bosses can be. I've had more than a few!

I work for boomer bosses they pride themselves on being absolutes drones I swear to god.

We had boomer professors, we learnt c coding in turbo c/c++ not python because they did it in turbo c in 1980.

I’m a boomer and I wish I had your videos when I was working. I think it would be accurate to describe the corporate culture as narcissistic. The boomers suffered as well.

I've been binge-watching your content for days now. Literally, it's kinda crazy how much I can relate to you on a professional and personal level. Thank you for the excellent content josh, keep it up!

Do you think this BS comes from people spending so much of their formative years in schools? Schools which are really over glorified baby sitting centers whose jobs is to store kids in those places while their parents work, and all of the lectures and work is just busywork to keep them busy. Do you think it comes from trapping young, developing minds in school or could it be something else?

Went through the same situation as the first case, ended up getting fired and suing the bastards for more money.

First lesson: Only Clint Eastwood or Patrick Swayze can say, "My way or the highway" and command respect.

Joshua's "manager" voice is so hilarious. I love your content man, please never stop making videos.

I just don´t understand the manager situation, why are all the companys hiring so many managers. As I started at my company we had 1 manager. Today this manager manges a manager and gets managed by a manager that has a manager. When I now ask something to my manager, he just states he has to ask the upper manager, after that I get never an answer.

Mostly managers means it has to be more then 10 managers on a 20 person team, WOW. how does that even work.

I am -- well, not young- but at my last job I had a boomer boss / owner - he was 37. I agree, it's a mindset, not an age. Sidenote, but one of the downsides that often rears it's head in smaller companies where the culture is fostered heavily by the owner, is that they expect their employees at every level to dedicated their lives to their company, just like they did when they started it. But for a fraction of the pay or benefits and often little concern for work-life balance. It lends itself nicely to a very boomer mentality within the company. Much respect to entreprenuers, I generally agree they deserve to be compensated more if they are successful, but let's get real about expectations. If you own a company, you shouldn't expect the average employee to put in anywhere near the level of effort and care that you do beyond the 8 hours they contribute while on the clock.

Josh, your boomer voice is the reason why I'm watching these, it's hilarious🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣❤

Man can't wait to become my own boss, so I can berate myself for being late, have me on the brink of quitting just give myself a raise.

Scum Master: What you guys doing for the day? Worker: Doing xyz Scrum Master: Well...my work is done.

This reminds me of the time in my help desk job when they tried to make us do some BS spreadsheet organization stuff. Mind you, I'm part of the help desk. People call in to get help with their computers. So...I'm BUSY pretty much all day. Then they got mad at me for not doing it. Because I'm busy doing my primary duty.

Kudos to Josh for continuing to call out BS like this and all the corporate cringe. Many managers can't stand the idea of looking out of their office and not seeing a kingdom of full cubicles. I currently have a medium sized org and they're all remote and they are much more productive than any open-office I have ever worked in. Thanks for what you do, Josh!

Out of curiosity: What has traffic to your courses been like since you started putting them in videos compared to how it was before?

"Not Allowed" & "Policy" are words that glorified secretaries aka "managers" use to cover their incompetency

i had "performance issues" brought up by managers at one of my old jobs before, i had been telling them for months that i had to keep fixing things being done wrong by other people before i could properly complete my work. every time someone told them about the screw ups done by other departments, their response was along the lines of "thats just how they are" or "thats just what they do"

I appreciate your amazing work on corporate bs.

"How should I deal with an employee who has slept with my wife?" S to the I to the M to the P.

HR: you need to take a break every 30 minutes managers: you can't take a 1 minute break for 4 hours straight. Or 6 if I asked you to work overtime. ??? One time I overheard the manager ''department'' try to come up with an excuse to not raise a person's desk. She was complaining about not being comfortable. They decided to just tell her that she's not sitting properly. So 4 hours straight no break, sit in one single position. Yeah that sounds healthy, physically and mentally... /sarcasm

Reminds me of when I worked in-office. - Completed my tasks very quicly. - Made it known I need more work. - Tired of sitting with nothing to do for 5+ hours a day. - I get up from my desk for 20 minutes. - I'm told my middle manager that my job is to "be at my desk". 🤡🤡

The reason they are mad at him for not going to the office is that they want the same. If they are not having it no one else should have it no matter how good the guy is.

This makes me glad my manager was an engineer before becoming a manager. He knows how we work

The second one is great, I wish more people would do that. They demand 25% productivity increase but only pay you a 3% raise? Give them 3%. The first one is kind of a douchebag. The worker ought to at least give them a courtesy of “I’m gonna be remote” today.

This is legendary content. As a boss what I can tell you is that this content is gold, abide by it and enjoy happy workplace.

7:56 As a Scrum master wannabe. (working on that certification) I can tell you scrum/agile on itself can be useful, but manager make it god awful to follow. they hear agile and the first thing they think of are meetings. you want to keep meetings to a minimum. 1 per day when possible. and my interpretation of what a scrum master does, or at least what I've been doing is a roadblock remover. not someone who sets useless meetings every single day.

greatest solutions come while sitting on toilette

Wait a minute, did these people get good advice from the internet? Is that what I just saw?

The fact that you put boomer picture on the thumbnail🤣🤣🤣 love that show. Thanks for this video josh!

Some thirty years ago, I was working on an IT contract for a beltway bandit IT consulting company just outside of Washington, DC. We had a back-end SQL developer who was an absolute genius. Unfortunately, like the stereotypical IT genius, he was completely unpresentatble to the client. While the rest of us went around in starched white shirts, polished shoes and quality suits, this guy wore shorts and sandals.....even in the winter months. He might bathe once a week and shaved even less frequently. Honestly, he looked like one of the cavemen from one of the old Geico commercials. So we just decided to put him in the back of the office, behind a wall. Kinda like the character "Richmond" from the IT Crowd. He didn't care, we didn't mind and the client never knew, so problem solved. If the client wanted to speak with him, which was pretty rare, we told the client he worked out of an office that was out of town, but they could still speak to him over the phone. The way we saw it, our guy did quality work, so we were willing to make an exception for him. Now, the problem is, there seems to be this thinking in today's business world that an employer can't do anything special or unique for one employee without doing the same for ALL the employees. That's bullshit. There is already a difference in employee treatment based on salary, so why not in other areas as well? Whenever I hear the "what you do for one you have to do for all" bullshit, I know I'm dealing with lazy managers and ineffectual leaders. One other thing....that "the salary cap is set and there's nothing I can do about it" line is total bullshit. The manager is letting himself be mind-fucked into docile subservience by his or her fear of upper-management. Just because upper management says something isn't possible or allowed doesn't mean that it isn't. For management, this person is the IDEAL manager.....meaning to say, he or she is a coward. If this employee is a star contributor, the manager should be willing to fight for this person's increase. An effective employee, after all, makes the manager look good. Of course, today's managers are all gutless skinny-jean wearing soy-boys or EEOC equity hires, which means to say they're gutless pussies who are too afraid to fight for what's right for one of their employees for fear of upsetting Mommy or Daddy (i.e., upper management).

Funny. I’m a “boomer” and I agree with you. 😉 I’ve never agreed with rules for the sake of rules. And I despise the “we’ve always done it this way...” attitude. If the worker is outperforming everyone then let him do his thing as long as he’s not interfering with others. Geez you boomers. Get a clue.

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Got a job in service desk a few years back, had to do insane shifts because I was in college as well, these insane shifts were what my boss (a couple years younger than I) and myself agreed, he was like "Here's the shift that you tell me you need, now during your shift I need you to at least meet certain quota of work done". The following 2 years were exhausting but I was totally loving my job and my boss was also pleased for I was always well above the quota we agreed on, so much as picking me as a good example of work well done. Sadly he was too good as a manager that he was moved to another project (better salary, benefits and such). The one who replaced him was even younger, yet she had that boomer mentality, standardized the shifts and pretty much ignored any performance metric beyond punctuality. I didn't last more than 2 weeks under her management. On a side note: I recently found your channel and I'm totally loving watching these videos during my code-learning breaks, thanks Josh.

As person that has filled many roles, including being a ScrumMaster. I have to say more meeting is a terrible idea. The Job of a ScrumMaster is to prevent the needless meeting, Remove Blocker, Make sure you devs have all the resources and tools to get the job done. And when product owners not "project managers" and putting pressure on the team it is ScrumMaster's job to protect the devs, go to bat and push back. Any issue with Velocity should be addressed as a team during the retrospective. And to boot, it sounds like the "project manager" does not take into account any changes to the team will likely decrease the overall velocity at first. After two sprints and not going up then, it would be time to address major changes... Last, any ScrumMaster that wants to add more meetings to a sprint is very bad at their job and should look for another role that would better suit their skill set.

25 manager : 1 dev, sounds a good company to me. lmao

Josh, how do you feel about Jocko Willink and the "extreme ownership" principles? To me he presents more pragmatic approaches to dealing with these problems. What you decide to DO about horrible bosses and employers is most important.

7:47 That whole cheating thing was horrible. He shouldn't be trying to fire him. He should be calling the police on both of them. The gall of the worker to try to defend himself. He should leave in shame.

4:15 - I'm also not happy about my salary, I only got a very small raise last year that only covers inflation. Instead of beeing more productive to show them that I'm worth it, I do less because I don't see the point in working more.

"How should I deal with an employee who has slept with my wife" LULULULULUL

Remember: no matter how good of a dev you are or how much more valuable of an asset you are to your company than these supervisor boomers, they get paid way more than you (on average anyway)

the deeper you dig into these stories, the funnier they get. 20 people, mostly managers? Jeez, no wonder he prefers to stay home.

At an old job, the company had invested in an automated workflow distribution system, so that everything would be online. One boomer underwriter kept trying to force various assistants to print out many of the 50-100 page documents the underwriters had to review. I stood my ground, and she complained to the head underwriter, whom she thought was a fellow boomer (he was a good 10 years older than she was.) Their argument could be heard across the office; he told her, "The Company paid a lot of money for this system and that is what you will use!" She responded, "Well, I'm just a stickler for having a piece of paper, so where does that leave us?" He said, "It means that either you get 'unstickled' or get a new job!!" She used the new system from that day forward.

Yooo I'm the creator of the 1st question of this video just wanna explain some stuff: -I'm not a manager, I put this question from my managers perspective cause I was really salty they didn't want me to work from home (sorry) -I was working for a company that subcontracts other devs, so their client was super happy with me, but my direct boss had mixed feelings cause I wasn't following dumb policy, despite great results. My interaction was with only people from the US and India. No real reason for me to go on person, knew I had the leverage of their happy client and abused it. -The reason I was top dev and only dev from office was because the rest of the devs where from India/US, I was the only one from Mexico. -I received 2 salary increments on 1 year and became team lead because of my performance. -The reason I didn't want to go to the office, was because India devs started working at my 10pm, and I felt I couldn't be a good lead if I couldn't do the same shift as them. -The client ended up leaving, and replaced all 20 managers with managers from India, I got paranoid and eventually left as well. Great review and video Josh, been enjoying your work for 2 years now. best of luck!

The hourly wage is the greatest crime against humanity at large ever perpetrated.

Justification of scrum masters: I think it's not the case at every company, but in large corporate environments it can be really difficult to manage people's expectations. Given a team where you may have 5-10 other teams who are stakeholders in the work you're doing (i.e., they rely on the software you're building), they're all going to be wanting things from you generally as soon as you're able to provide them. Often I find the a lead engineer is responsible for managing the expectations of stakeholders, but they do this in conjunction with the scrum master because the lead is not necessary for every conversation. I have had a few great scrum masters (or agile coaches is another term for the same role) that were basically like bodyguards, saying things like "Aaron can't answer that right now but we can have a chat about your requirements, discuss timing, reprioritize different work, etc." So in a sense the scrum master is like the shield for the team. If they're not behaving this way, then more than likely end up micro managing engineering process within the team. Bear in mind the things I'm describing can be done by PMs, Product Managers, Eng Managers, etc. But if your PdM is already consumed working with other PdMs and people from the business, having a scrum master or coach can be great.

Loving this new series. Can't wait for the next one, keep it up Josh ✌

If anybody is going to make me finally switch to KZfaq Premium, it's Josh lol

My experience working at a large corporation is too many managers, without enough work to do, making ridiculous rules that slow down productivity.

Wow... 3 standups a day... Just wow. If we do not have anything important, we do even skip daily, because why interrupting for nothing?

This says it all, "Does this X% apply to your CEO's total compensation? I'd wager it doesn't." BOOM! 🎤 drop.

Aha one of them is a great meme guys

"Duh, i cant take credit for the guys hustle in my meetings if everyone knows hes a lone wolf. If I know im obsolete, how long before the boss knows Im obsolete? I dont know how to develope sh**."

uggggh the you are not working if you are not moving your fingers part gets me on a personal level.

That made up non-existing problem made me suffer so badly, man. I don't even xD...

“It’s still wrong.” 😂😂 As if the employee is stealing or harassing people. Dudes just doing a great job working from home.

I was just a guest to a retrospective for a CSM. I did a mentoring on how to communicate with management to get where you need to be. If you think the ability to move ahead is just getting job done, you’re a fool. The communication & relationship skills of being a successful consultant is the same & dealing with management. “Boomer” mindset is something you’re totally missing. It’s a foolish term and if you think thing’s aren’t questioned at work...that’s ignorant. I’m a PMP and a CSM - I guarantee I can get more productivity out of each team without micro managing. I’ve gotten my team raises. And that’s because I know how to navigate office politics - and you need to learn how important that is and ALWAYS will be.

In the 70's and 80's there was no web to browse. None the less, companies would hire consulting firms that would literally sit down next to you at your desk and watch you program. They would jot down any 'mistakes' you made or that they thought you made. Example: when you compiled a program, if it had errors, they would write down the errors that you compiler produced. All of this was reported to management and used in your performance review. They also measured your performance in KLOCs. Never heard of a KLOC? It is literally 1000 lines of code. In order to get a good performance review, you can just imagine what kind of spaghetti code was being produced (remember most of this code was Cobol, Fortran, and Assembler). Some managers/consultants considered 'comments' to be lines of code (fortunately). Anyway, my point is that these are the managers that trained the 'boomer managers'; so, BMs (no pun intended) think they are just wonderful!

My last employer was a millionaire boomer CEO who owns a finance company. I overhauled their website, their reporting and analytics, their IVR telecom system and created a mobile app so they can take payments. I estimate that the changes I implemented over the 5 years I was there brought them in over 750k from increased payments and collection strategies that I automated. Our department is extremely understaffed and won't let us hire even a help desk person at $15/h yet they will regularly hire accountants, risk analyzers and sales managers. I'm a Software Engineer making 60k/y but because we are so short staffed I have to do help desk tickets as well as password resets and desktop issues on the weekends and late at night. I don't get paid for that extra time as I'm salary based. When I asked for a raise he would never give me or my coworkers one, yet all the sales teams and managers got regular bonuses. Not only that but he as well as other departments would blame us for everything and anything that went wrong in the company even if we weren't involved somehow technology or reporting was to blame. He would never consult us or get our side of the story he would just run with it. Things came to a conflict When I got tested for the flu earlier this year I took 3 PTO days (out of my 10 available). My boss/owner calls me and tells me I'm destroying the company and costing him money because I'm not there, and cursed me out telling me I should resign and that when he is sick he comes in to work (I guess that's when he isn't at his mansion in the keys on during the workday or fishing all day during the work week). I told him if I'm so important to his multi-million dollar business why won't he allow us to expand our department? He couldn't answer the question and hung up on me. The following week when I returned to work I asked for an apology from him, not only is it illegal to harass a sick employee on a day off and violates labor laws. I didn't care about that, all I wanted was an apology for being cursed out and made to feel like a deadbeat because I have the flu and don't want to spread it to my coworkers. He couldn't apologize, he said he didn't owe me anything and that I'm toxic so I walked out and left. Now I work a nice government job making triple of what I made before, and it's remote. I get treated with respect, I get bonuses and my efforts are appreciated. The owner of the company I now work for is a young female woman who is really kind, smart and cares about the morale of her employees. More importantly I enjoy coming in to work and my productivity is increased due to the lack of stress and positive environment. They gave me top of the line tech to do my work. Whereas my previous employer I had to beg to get a $200 ebay laptop expensed or extra RAM. Seems the younger generation of business owner know how to treat their employees and understand that their success is commensurate with the happiness and appreciation of their employees. I still talk with my department manager at my previous employer, he's is miserable, still gets treated like garbage by the CEO. Still forced to work onsite despite COVID being rampant in the area and despite being a dev where all his work can be done remotely, and he is still being paid shit. I feel bad for the guy.

We had a manager that scheduled meetings on a continuous basis in order to avoid any day to day conflict or actual work since they’re constantly in meetings.

My last workplace needs this video on TV's in every building.

lol “they’ve never had a job that requires an original thought” 😂