Yo! Angelo

I think it's perfect that Kira doesn't die to Josuke, it's in character. Josuke would rather leave someone to rot in an object prison then face the idea of killing them.

Josuke will always be my favorite Jojo due to how much of a chill/friendly guy. Like Araki said he’s the kinda guy you’d wanna be friends with. I don’t mind the way Part 4 handled having several main characters bc it helped with the Town Setting but I can agree that letting Joarto get the last hit on Kira was kinda disappointing but He did have a great fight against Kira. Also Rip to the legend Billy Kametz for his Great voice As Josuke in the English Dub

Rest in peace Billy. You were our crazy Shining Diamond.

Josuke being underutilized when compared to previous JoJo’s felt more like a concession with Araki’s ever evolving writing. As you go through each part of JoJo numerically, you start to see the protagonists have less time in the spotlight than the one before them. That’s because they had to share it more with that part’s cast of characters. Part 4 felt like an experiment in this style.

When discussing Kira's actual death, you forgot to mention the fact that he wanted to stay unnoticed by the people around him, and ended up dying because the ambulance driver didn't notice him.

By far one of the most creative JoJo's in terms of how they use their abilities. Shine on you crazy diamond.

If you were to talk about Yukako Yamagishi's redemption, I do have a positive to say: She at least makes the change to put Koichi's wants and needs before her own, respects his space and boundaries, and doesn't force things. Before she was the total opposite. She realized what didn't work and made the conscious decision to change for the better. Now, I will agree that Koichi shouldn't have gotten with her because of what she did to him.

I feel like most of the problems related to josuke are related to how part 4 is structured, he is not the only main character in his part, and while he does grow, his growth happens in the early chapters to make way for the other main characters. It's less about josuke being done dirty, and more about part 4 being really different compared to the other main universe parts.

“No matter how careful you try to be or how successful you think you are, there will always be an ambulance to kill you” is gonna be my yearbook quote. Thank you for that

I wish Josuke had a cameo with Koishi in Golden Wind, it’s a shame we never saw him again after Part 4.

I love Josuke because he has the second most fun personality of the Jojos(behind his dad) and has by several miles the best MC stand. He comes off as a badass while also feeling like a teenager, something Jotaro and Giorno failed at.

Part 4, it was a group effort to bring down Kira. Josuke had to work with Hiyato and Okuyasu to lure out Kira from the shadows so others could help apprehend him.

I definitely see why this is a valid take away, I don't think he's in the part enough, but I almost think its in Araki's style of making group centered stories that makes it so the main character is only every a piece of the group and nit centre stage, which I think works well. I think about part 3 and 5 especially to this degree as both have their jojo not be in the spotlight as much to compensate for the unit. Jotaro and Giorno are usally in the background unless during key fights while characters like Joseph and Bruno are at the helm, with the same if not more motivation for the Jojo of the part. In short, I think Josuke's lack of screentime is just a symptom of the writing focusing on more than one player. Koichi is definitely as much a protagonist as Josuke and there's argument to say Rohan also becomes a main protagonist because of his focus and motivation post Kira introduction and is ther with Jotaro to do the heavy lifting. This all culminates during Bites The Dust, when Rohan is at the centre directly trying to find Kira, Josuke takes what he learned from Jotaro to fight Kira, and through Koichi's developed ability over the full part, only then is the stage set for Kira's demise. I think that for what was trying to be done he fufilled his role as a key character but he wasn't the sole main character

I think the problem applies even more to Giorno, it's just highlighted by how much he's built up at the very start and then instantly fades once he joins passione. Very much on the side until the very end, and even then, spoiler Bruno and Polnereff play a much bigger role in the final battle until the very last moment

To me, the lack of focus on Josuke's character kinda ties into the whole underlying message of P4: it's not Josuke that fights the bad guy, but the entire town trying to get rid of the disease that is Yoshikage Kira. Josuke being a JoJo only name-wise and not mc-wise is a good way of showing that, too. It's also very in character for him to not be in the spotlight, since as a down to earth normal teenager all he really wants in life is yummy food and fun videogames. Not saying that was intentional, but it works perfectly in my book

We all know if Josuke and crew were in Part 6, they would've fixed everything.

I think people do forget that the fight with Kira was a team effort. Every major character contributed, weakening him one by one until the end. It just so happened that Jotaro dealt the final blow. I'm not defending this, but I think people do fixate a little too much on that aspect instead of the bigger picture. The main players in the city of Morioh coming together to defeat the major threat is thematically appropriate for the kind of story part 4 was going for and I do like it when the main character isn't the one to defeat the villain People also forget that, before part 6, it's usually not the main character in Jojo that gets the most development. Part 1 had very little development for any character except Speedwagon I guess... Part 2 had Caesar, it was Polnareff in 3, Rohan/Koichi in 4 and Part 5 focused more on character exploration (I haven't read parts 7 or 8 yet)

Literally! Thank you for this man! Josuke deserved so much better and he's definitely my fave Joestar of all time, also RIP to the legend Billy Kametz, he really did amazing with Josuke's dub voice and he will be greatly missed

In regards to Josuke's hair thing going away after Rohan, I feel that's because the whole flashback was essentially a Cerebus Retcon-initially, the hair thing could tend to be a gag here and there early on, cause look at this bozo with his ridiculous pompadour, but once you really get into how and why he's so protective of his signature hairdo and why he flies off the handle when it's insulted, it can kinda be hard to see it made fun of. In regards to Yukako, I expect her to be in that redemption video since yeah, she practically got zilch in the grand scheme of things.

Oh my god, that Billy Kametz tribute... Rest in piece Billy. We will never forget you. Interesting video btw. I loved it.

the problem if you ask me is: too much koichi not enough josuke

I will forever miss Billy. May he rest in peace.

Josuke was always my favorite jojo out of them all, you can't help but root for him. Rest in peace Billy and shine on you crazy diamond

Josuke will always be one of my favourites, if not my favourite JoJo, from his dope personality, style and vibe, plus his stand power would be the one I want the most

I’d say Morioh as a whole is the main character and each member of the cast, their life and experiences is an important part of it.

I believe the reason why they didn't use Yuya sense of smell cause at that point in the story Rohan got a new lead on Kira's new identity and was going to investigate the next day.

Thank you for the wonderful tribute to Billy at the end ❤

R.i.p to the man behind the voice Billy you were a goat

RIP Billy Kametz, the Josuke in English.

I always thought Jotaro and Giorno suffered from being overshadowed infinitely more than Josuke ever did.

He's my favorite after Jolyne. I like to argue how the Bites the Dust tussle is my favorite fight of the first 5 Parts of JoJo. Josuke interpolates just about everything he learned about Crazy D throughout Part 4 into that fight - right down to a panel from the manga version of the Transmission Tower arc, "I can't fix back this guy's (wet, slippery) blood that's already down here!" From that line we are led to potentially consider/infer, like, "huh...so, I wonder what else he can do with 'blood' after he got his own both on & in the shoulder of Kira?" which leads into his own dried-dead-blood-bending Crazy Diamond healing exploit for massive damage - which essentially won his portion of the fight (using the gun-firing power of Crazy D's flick - which he learned to do in the Ratt arc). &, just as much, I find an even stronger case insofar as Hayato's mother, Shinobu, very-suddenly falling for Kira perhaps due to the Cinderella Stand's lingering effect it may have had on him. His good luck/fate really dictated those events for him, and while he thought Hayato did everything for him - he only further counteracted his luck by being a creepy kid maybe almost as much as Kira was a creepy dude.

Rip Billy. English Josuke.

I think the biggest issue is both Kira and Josuke are too passive as protagonists. While reactive protagonist is aren’t bad, the need a proactive force constantly or they tend to just chill. Goku for example is pretty reactive, but that’s fine because everyone wants to kill him. The issue with all of this is that Kira also just sits there. So you have the gang and Kira’s dad setting up all these plans and hunting the other down while our main two just kinda… sit there. It’s why I think the first half of part 4 is the better story for Josuke because Akira is actively hunting Josuke down and engaging with him

A lot of what was found as an issue I found enjoyable because of the writing. This season feels relaxing at times and completely insane at others. It implements stands in everyday uses and regular human wants and uses the whole cast to do it. It has a Saturday morning cartoon vibe to it but is still current and engaging in episodes that don’t move the plot. It’s refreshing to see a jojo so happy go lucky yet still as compelling. I’m waiting for another season like this one!

Main character spoiler for part 8 Who do you think would win a fight, Josuke or Josuke? Because Josuke is very creative with his ability. Especially with what he did at the end of his part. But Josuke is very creative with his ability. Especially with what he did at the end of his part.

Honestly i would think josuke after part 4 would go on as a doctor in morioh, helping those in need, while defending the town from trouble. In a way still being similar with kira as he would helping instead of killing. Plus getting to help out with koichi as a part of the speedwagon foundation too would be nice

Billy was a cool va, My favorite roles of his were Josuke (of course) and Dr. Maruki

rest in peace billy u was a great voice actor and game actor :)

The tribute to billy kametz at the end was really sweet. Hoping to see more jojo stuff!

I'm not sure you even know what Araki was doing with Josuke in the first place.

Josuke isn’t the only one who feels like a side character in his own story. In part 3 Polnareff gets far more character development and is in more fights than Jotaro, similar with Bruno in part 5 who gets much more character development than Giorno.

This is the earliest I've ever been to one of your videos

I'm currently watching part 4, since it returned to Netflix this month. I'm actually loving it and it's my second favorite part to part 3. I watch it with Swedish subtitles with the original Japanese audio and it keeps most of the original stand names, which I think it's really awesome.

Part 4 definitely decentralized it's JoJo for it's Slice of Life theme. It was definitely more focused on other characters. A Slice of Life lives and dies on its cast of characters. And Part 4 does have a good selection, I'll give it that. It's just unfortunate it came at the cost of Josuke's development.

When I watched Part 4 for the first time I immediately loved Jouske. He’s a stand up guy who’ll do anything to protect the ones he loves most, a goofy teenager as well. That’s also why I love Gentaro Kisaragi from Kamen Rider Fourze, two dudes who’d be amazing friends to have around

Great video overall Kamen, per usual! Though from my own perspective, the main reason I personally don’t really agree with the whole “Josuke being overshadowed” thing (even if I can still understand and respect your perspective) is because DiU, for better or worse, is a vast departure from the more MC-centric parts in 1-3. Those stories basically revolved around the Joestars and their connection to Dio and the Phantom Mask, and so them being in the forefront made plenty of sense. But for part 4, while Josuke is the protagonist, he isn’t the main character. Instead, *everyone* is, because DiU focuses more on the community aspect and all the people who live in this crazy, noisy, bizarre town, instead of just a select group of people like in the other parts. This’s why we’ll have some episodes revolving around Koichi, Rohan and even Yukako instead of solely following Josuke’s perspective, since he isn’t the driving force of the story, but just one of its many major players. And even if this might make Josuke feel sidelined or underdeveloped as a result, I still feel like he gets enough screentime and focus to have his personality and character shine…like a diamond. So basically, part 4 has no single main character since it follows everyone in Morioh, as well as their goals, aspirations and relationship to eachother. It’s fine to dislike this aspect, sure, but I find it to be one of the many unique ways that part 4 sets itself apart from its predecessors. I also never really agreed with the perspective that Josuke didn’t defeat Kira simply due to not landing the final blow, since the last fight against him was meant to be a team effort. Josuke fought off Kira before anyone else arrived, and mortally wounded him to the point where he had to use Stray Cat to bail himself out. Then Okuyasu saves Josuke by using his stand to take away Stray Cat, and then once Kira was left with no other options, he resorted to using Bites the Dust to loop time and was stopped from doing so by Koichi and Jotaro. Who had already fought him off once before in the Sheer Heart Attack arc, and so it was building off of their teamwork already established earlier in the series. It’s similar to the ending of part 6, where even if Jolyne isn’t the one to defeat Pucci, both her and everyone else still worked towards defeating him until his inevitable demise. Again though, I can certainly see where you’re from, but just providing an alternate perspective from someone who’s read and watched part 4 extensively due to being one of my favorite Jojo parts. And always feel like it gets majorly misunderstood due to people trying to look at it from the lens of the other parts, rather than what Araki intended the part to be on its own terms.

Fantastic work man keep it up

You know, it is pretty weird that Josuke suffers from the same problem as Jotaro and Giorno in that he, most of the time, doesn't feel like the protagonist of his own story, considering that part 4 was more story-focused and had a smaller cast of characters than parts 3 and 5. Also, in regards to Josuke not defeating Kira, i think it could've been worse. Like, Kira could've accidentally erupted a volcano and got sent into space, or it migh've turned out that Josuke and Kira's stands are the same type, or character from another part might've come out of nothere and given Josuke a convenient mcguffin to defeat the final villain. And don't forget that not only Jolyne wasn't the one who defeated Pucci, she also never even had a chance to properly beat the shit out of him before dying along with her father, who she has spent the entire part 6 trying to save, and all of her friends. In that regard, Josuke definitely didn't get the worst deal.

Recently I finally read part 7 and almost finished part 8 and I think Josuke part 8 is my new favourite jojo due to his motivation, how connected he his to the overall plot and I love his stand I kind of agree with the point that it's kind of disappointing that josuke didn't hit the final blow on Kira but I think it doesn't hurt the story that much and I love the final battle anyway

Man I miss Billy Kametz 😞 May he rest in peace

"What'd you say about my hair!?" RIP Billy Kametz.

Favorite JoJo, and yeah, I agree with a lot of this vid. I love part 4 since I'm such a sucker for small town/city mysteries with the supernatural or weird sprinkled in (especially when the three 3 act structure is used well). I've always wished we got to visit them again, and while Crazy Diamond's Demonic Heartbreak & JoJoLion, they were a Prequel and a different universe respectively. I would have loved a sequel set with the gang in maybe their college years, whether it be slice of life or a new threat, it be nice to see how the kid's with hearts of gold have grown.

Araki: Jokuke is my favorite Jojo! Also Araki:

Here is one very interesting fact about Jojo part 4. The story of it had several things removed when the manga was being written, in fact proibbly of all parts aside from 6 it had the most messy development as stuff was changed or removed a LOT. One of these was deepening the dynamic of Josuke and Kira. Where it was going to be reavealed that Kira had an extremly abusive and negected childhood, where his father was away most of the time and his mother often abused him physically, resulting in his fixation on womens hands. As well as explaining why his father was so obessed with helping Kira and ignoring his serial killer nature. He could only see the child he wasn't there for when he looked at him and it was guilt that made him do as much as he did to try to help Kira. Josuke was suppoused to learn this and actually feel sorry for Kira and realize it's not enteirly his own fault he is the way he is, but still be resolved to stop him. This is just one example of stuff Araki changed/took out of part 4's original planned story. No doubt this helped contrubite to Josuke not being the protagonist he could of been as he simply didn't have all the scenes he could of.

Initially I wasn't a huge fan of Josuke, but after my recent rewatch of DiU he grew on me more. Hugely enjoyable protagonist who gets great interactions with all the cast, and his theme is so good! Definitely the JoJo I'd want to be friends with irl

Josuke is like Jonathan in that he is immediately striking and has his moment and that’s it. It makes him more special

Great video as always. Glad I found your channel... WHAT'D YOU SAY ABOUT MY HAIR?!

Joske always seemed like a small town superman. Always saw him as being around to help the other characters issues. He already knows who he is from episode one, and he knows who he wants to be from the beginning. The rest of the series seemed to be him applying that idea to his every day life.

Josuke and Giorno feel like friends

Mangakame I didn't expect to Reference from Toonrific Tariq meme out no where like that towards the beginning of the intro that fucking amazing that he allowed you to do that.

THE THANKS MOM CLIP 😭😭😭 you’re in on that joke as well, I love you ☠️

this is gonna be great

I guess you could say that this was a... DIRTY DEED, DONE DIRT CHEAP!

if josuke was done dirty... then johnny was done dirty deeds done dirt cheap

I clicked on this video and immediately fell asleep I'm now arriving for the second time about to repeat the same mistake

Imma be honest, it’s been a while since I’ve watched pt 4 but I completely forgot about that alien character they met until you mentioned him. He was so random and unexplained that he never really stuck with me.

Koichi is just that reliable of a guy you know.

Josuke always has been and always will be my favorite JoJo.

I feel like punching a wall every time I remember Billy Kametz is gone. R.I.P

In regards to the manga, Part 4 is my favorite part hands down. A solid 9/10

This guy deserves more subs...

Cool video

Great video and I can see where alot of your points are coming from, but personally I do not think he was underutilized at all. Josuke to me represented the best of Morioh: a flawed person, but overall with a heart of gold and I think that presence is felt throughout the entire part. Every important battle hinges on Josuke at some point even the first major confrontation of Kira one of the main sources of tension was if Josuke would get there in time and if he wasn't there Kira would of got away. I think his final fight with Kira shows it the best. Kira realizes in that fight that the main threat to his peace was not Jotaro, but Josuke. While Kira bided his time in isolation Josuke (while not investigating) did something equally as important which is gather allies defeat enemies, and well not amazing I think it shows well in the July 15th arc in which the entire team would of been eliminated if not for the help of some of the friends made in the town. Also I think getting the final blow for Kira does not matter, cause the most important person in the fight at the end of the day was still Josuke who did all the work and who beating Bites the Dust hinged on for being late. I do agree with your point about the fact that it is kind of unfortunate that Josuke does not push the plot forward unlike the rest, but I think he makes up for that fact due to him being the one dealing with the enemy stand users in the second half of the part except 2 Rohan fights. I think what really hurts Josuke weirdly enough is merely that portion of The Lock, Surface, and Love Love Deluxe. While Surface was Josuke focused Hazamada becoming buds with Koichi pushes that forgettable fight into leaning towards a Koichi fight in the mind so for alot of people they just experienced like 4 episodes of Koichi as the protagonist not even including the opening narration starting with him. I think if this was broken up better with the Pearl Jam happening before Love Deluxe this probably would of lessened that Koichi centric feel. Overall keep up the good work, your videos are pretty inspirational! 👍

That tribute to Billy was wonderful Kamen. WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT MY HAIR!?

the amount of disrespect he received

Josuke didn't get done dirty hes the goat

literally the jojo with the most aesthetic appeal

You raise very valid point. I did feel like the plot and josuke as a whole got lost until Kira showed up. Yet with hindsight I guess Josuke just stayed lost 😅

GREAT video. Also having a video about redemption sounds awesome, so WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT MY HAIR!?

Every time kame says yoshikage kira, feels like I should take a shot, should make this a game XD

Okay this video is definitely interesting and it discusses an idea that I studied frequently which the media of Jojo’s part 4 and how unique it is to most media and even within the Jojo franchise which says a lot. I definitely disagree with the part the Josuke isn’t deep. He is simple but in my opinion he’s character actually carries a lot of thematic depth within the themes of exterior vs interior image, uniting communities the theme of healing bonds, relationships, conflict and connecting people to each other, the theme of genuineness and a punk with a gold diamond heart in general. That being said I think that Josuke barely being the protagonist is THE POINT, Meaning that Josuke and his character’s thematic messages are associated with him being a SUPPOT a healing hero more than being traditional hero and that’s I believe is his appeal. I think Araki managed to successfully get every message of the character Josuke told decently and never missed out on anything the character wants to tell necessarily. Btw he does have goal in protecting his people in Morioh which is interesting in this case. To me Josuke is one of the better examples of protagonists who are reactionary and don’t having a strict progression yet executed perfectly. He is sort of a way better Ichigo in a sense. I do agree with the fact that we might be left needing a bit more of him but I think part of that issue is solved by the manga “partially” meaning that the part 4 manga has a lot more content compared to the anime which means a lot more of Josuke. Now I still think we needed a bit more of Josuke inn terms of character arc and screentime and I also agree that there seems to be dropped character traits within him in a weird way which definitely distasteful. Anyhow great video and I agree with some of your points but I definitely think his utilization isn’t as bad as you presented although still not good either. Still he is the best JOJO imo.

MangaKamen, I was wondering. Do you know about the new ARG, Welcome Home? If so are you making a video about it?

RIP Billy Kametz

Weird how araki's favorite jojo is very underused on its own part

Josuke (Part 4) is my favorite JoJo, most relatable IMO and a fun character to watch, but as you said, was done dirty by his own part. R.I.P. Billy

So happy this got made! I love josuke and he’s my fav jojo (how original. I know) and i totally agree with him being underutilized.

The point of Kira being killed by the ambulance is symbolic and plays on the biggest overarching theme in Jojo which is the concept of fate. Kira got run over by the ambulance because no one noticed he was there. This is ironic because Kira’s biggest goal was to go unnoticed and live a quiet life. He got hit because no one noticed he was there. Also add extra irony where as a ghost he got dragged away by a bunch of HANDS. Double ironic.

Billy, you really are a crazy shining diamond

He was Done Dirt Cheap

Something else that should be mentioned is that, compared to the other Jojos in the first universe, Josuke is arguably the only Jojo who's life is more consistently grounded compared to the other Jojos, which is probably part of why there's not as much focus on him directly all the time. Unlike the other Jojos that have to be constantly on their toes to survive throughout their designated Parts, Jotaro lives life as a normal teenager that goes to school and deals with semi-normal teenage things. Yeah, he has to fight for his life against Red Hot Chili Pepper, some rats with Stands, and Yoshikage Kira, but outside of that one eventful summer that makes up Part 4, his life is the most laid-back slice-of-life levels of calm out of all the other Joestars in the first universe. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I like how the"Town" ended the torment of akira. tbh, still top 3 jojo arcs

when the captions are on and he says "Jotaro" it gives so many different words like "Joe Throw" and "Joe Troll"

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DROP THE MEAT!

“WHAT’D YOU SAY ABOUT MY HAIR!?”

Imagine if it ended with bite the dust activating, and shining diamond is able to restore time after it was used, that would’ve been a bit more thematic

The problem with Josuke/Kira dynamic is that there is none. The character never actually "meet" until the final fight. The fact that kira appears vs shigechi, and the sheer heart attack arc is the first and only fight before he goes into hiding kills all pacing with his character. If there was a fight in between in which our characters meet and have a little confrontation, even if they pull the "they are doing something next to eachother without knowing who the other guy is" to atleast have a baseline interaction so that their opposing designs can work off eachother they could have a really fun dynamic. But since Kira went into hidding so early on, Kira's dad steals the spotlight that should had been Kira's showing off his character to the group, instead we get Kira showng off his character to randoms in the street and the Kawajiri family, and don't get me wrong, I absolutely LOVE daily life with the kawajiris, but Josuke is not a part of that, making Kira more of his own character but reducing Josuke's part in it.

I feel like there was a missed opportunity with that Guy pushing the car thing.... It feels like there was going to be more to that but idk

2:55 this was enough my sub, thanks for that lmfao 😂

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