Glad it was of use to you

Gregory Nocent thank you.

Cheers dude! Thanks for watching.

@@marcusdluxe Henning explains how to program it & it's actually a pretty simple switcher..

That's great to hear and glad the video helped. I know initially watching it it probably seems like nonsense but once you have the pedal it all makes sense and second nature. I'd probably put it on the main output. Unless you have a spare loop at the end of the overdrives. Some noise gates will even work on the way in to all the pedals as it obviously works on the fading out guitar signal. Try it before and after the joyo first to save using a bank is my advice. Thanks again.

I'm no expert and haven't tried a looper in the setup at all. So you have the second loop, the second of four loops into the FX loop of the amp? If so like you say, I don't understand why as they should be separated from the first signal path I'd have thought. But again, I'm no expert, just a user of the unit like yourself

Hi, It was one I made myself. MarcusDluxe Pedalboards

Yes, unfortunately its either all 8 to the front on amp or split 4/4. The only other way would be use this for the front of the amp and have your two fx loop pedals completely separate.

Jumpii Trotta to be honest I'm not 100% sure without trying them. Sorry.

Cheers! The only place I've got more playing is probably Instagram- @marcusdluxe I do a lot more content on there.

Okay I will give that a try, thanks!

Larry Baldwin that does sound like a messed up situation. Have you tried putting it way down in trigger 4? I know my amp channel switch took a little bit of messing about to get working. Have you tried the d-seed in both presets whilst programming the trigger?

In the video I was using neutrik heads but I've now switched to PedalPatch UK solderless ones. Thanks for watching

WhiteLionParade hi, I made my own patch using neutirk heads & vandamme cable- I use the cheaper neutriks, "reaml(?), and as you can hopefully hear they're not noisy. That way you can make them the correct lengths. Be careful also as I don't think there's room for the pancake type jack as on the joyo they're very close together. And yes- you can add whatever you like before or after the joyo- so as with your question on the other video, something like a compressor, volume pedal, wah would work there.

I wish I had read this Q/A before buying, you're right, pancakes DO NOT fit. You can fit every other cable as pancake, but that's super annoying.

No, I'm afraid that's not possible. Everything runs in series, 1 into 2 etc. Thanks for watching.

Hi, glad the video was of some use. Some fuzzes don't like being in things like loopers, especially like the joyo which is buffers. So, it's either a patch lead, I've suffered the same, spent ages setting stuff up then a fail. So, either a patch lead or it doesn't like the buffers in the switcher. Try firstly different patch leads. Even if you swap from a different loop. If its still the same try the Fuzz before the the switchers input to rule out the buffer. If it's the buffer, company's like Tate fx will sell a "pickup emulator" kind of thing that makes the Fuzz think its guitar straight into pedal. Hope that makes sense. Feel free to ask any questions and let me know how you get on.

Potentially, if the pedal has an auxiliary control to do so. Or if its midi joyo/harley benton do a version with midi. I'm not sure it you'd be able to do it via an expression pedal out? Expression pedals are usually able to one control on a pedal and the sweep of the pedal adjust the turn of that control. So potentially you could have it but of course there's no sweep- so clicking the switch would go from a_b.

If you're not using an effects loop in your amp those two blocks of 4 are really one big block of 8 so you can place where you want. The two blocks of 4 is only relevant when using an effect loop as that second block goes there so you'd only use fx that work in an effect loop - delay, verb, trem and some modulation.

Thanks. I've had no problems like that at all I'm afraid

Yeah, I see what you're saying. I want to say yes but not 100%. Next time I strip the board I'll try it.

@@marcusdluxe ok sweet, thanks!

Fernando Ramirez hi, I use the cheap Caline CP-05 power supplies. Thanks for watching.

DanikDarko so you want a wet and an dry signal simultaneously through one amp? When you say loop 2 out/in red you referring to what would be the effect loop In and out? (left side of pedal)

Basically, if you use input 1 & 2, you have turned the switcher into 2 switchers with four loops each. Once you plug into input 2 you will need to use both outputs to get access to the full changes. The high and low sections are synchronized, meaning if you change the bank or number, then all of the loops will shift. Of course you would not have to have any of them on. You can select to only have things on the high section activated and the low section can be left off or visa versa. Or you can run any mixture combination of the two sections. I am using this Joyo Looper to run two sets of pedals into two amps. The pedals are setup and voiced for the amps. I ramp the tone up through steps from clean to distorted over several increments. The way I have it set, one amp is emphasized on the first bank, then the other on the next bank, then on the third bank both amps start at a clean tone and then add a little dirt, then a bit more and then distortion/overdrive. It works great and is more than I could ask for.

Tiny Rick thanks buddy. I built the the board myself a while back, just slats of timber. As for the switcher it's about 540mm wide. It is a great unit for the money. Thanks for watching.

Hi, did you find a board that worked for this switcher?

In theory as many as you like I suppose. There's 8 loops which you can have all in to front of amp or 50 50 them front and fx loop. But each of those loops could contain multiple pedals as the unit turns of and on the loops not the pedals within those loops

Hi, you'll be pleased to hear the answer is yes! You can switch amp channel as long as your amp uses a standard jack plug. I have over videos on my board that will show this. If your amp has a pedal that switches Reverb & overdrive then that may use a stereo jack into the amp- this is still doable you'd just have to use a stereo jack into the footswitch input of your amp & then spit it in to two mono jacks at the joyo and use two of the four trigger outs. Feel free to ask anything else &/or check out other videos. Thanks

Some Fender amps use a mono type 1/4" plug to control several foot switch functions. They do this by setting up various resistors at each switch in the foot switch and then reading the change in the amp. So, to get that to function as several foot-switches you would have to build a box that would close the circuit in the same way as the Fender foot switch does, (i.e.using resistors of the right value for each 1/4" jack connection) and then running the triggers to that box for translation into the connection that runs to the amp.

No, I'm afraid the order is what it is. I know what you mean but unfortunately it's always in sequence. Thanks for watching

Unfortunately no, only the last four loops can be affect loop send a return.

Unfortunately yeah, the loop has to be completed. So no, you can't feed an amp from the loops. You can however use the tuner loop to feed another amp. I have video on my channel for that. (has a thumbnail with a thr10 amp)

And I hope I made sense of you making sense haha. Thanks for watching.

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Thanks bud! As for positioning its all personal preference. You you could have it in a loop. You could have it before/after the pxl. I don't use a noise personally.

@@marcusdluxe cool! Thank you very much man! 😊🤟🤟

Yeah, exactly that. Either 8 pedals or groups. I tend to have one per loop apart from loop one which I have an octave and fuzz

Thanks for the heads up. If I start with a couple pedals that are always on can I just run through those and then start using my channels? Also, I have an EHX silencer, which I only use for my fuzz chain, because I have like four fuzz pedals. What are your thoughts on this?

@@internalmethods I think it all comes down to trial and error. Obviously there's nothing stopping you having 20 pedals in one loop and still switching those pedals on and off like 8 independent pedalboards. Two things with that though.... 1) noise, I use the switcher to remove a lot of noise by obviously having loops deactivated. 2) pedal order, a lotta fuzzes etc like being first and especially don't like boss style buffers. So with multiple fuzzes you need to know what goes where....but with that many pedals on a board you obviously know this.

Jordan S I've made my own from timber but it's about 650mm x 350mm.

Livingthat Twelvelife what do you use to split the amps? I only use one amp at the moment. I'd happily do a video showing how mines connected but may not be relivant to your setup. I may be getting another head soon- I'd like an a/b/y switch that I could use via the trigger outs!

I use the Fender Micro AB/Y to switch. Any help youcan provide would be great, if nothing else it would be a good starting point and hopefully I can figure out any of the small differences from there.

Livingthat Twelvelife ok, I'll perhaps do a video on signal path etc this weekend- subscribe & you'll see it when it's up! 😃😉

Livingthat Twelvelife what sort of stuff would you like to know? effects order? do you use a joy?

I have my signal path all set up, I just can't figure out how to get the amp switcher to work and how to plug everything into the loop switcher correctly between the two amps and the fx loop...

Yes. But you won't have the noise of all the pedals on as the signal path to each pedal is cut off unless selected.

It goes into the switcher then the eight individual loops and back out again

Fer Ramirez thanks! I suppose it would classed as rock. Distorted guitars, riffs, but also some quieter delay laden stuff. Thanks for watching

It's one that I made

It's hard to say without experimenting personally with it.

@@marcusdluxe no worries and thanks for the reply :-).

I made the board myself but don't have it anymore as I've made myself and upgraded version with a flip top section for the power supply

Latch and momentary are the two main type of switching that amps/auxiliary functions use to swap a channel etc. Latch is like flicking a switch, it stays in that position. Of course on a footswitch the switch returns but the signal is continuously saying on or off until you switch again. Momentary is like beeping a horn. You hit the horn, it beeps and the stops. So momentary is like that, some amps just need a polite "on" or "off" to switch. Makes no difference, there's no good or bad. Just some amps use one, some the other. Most basic footswitch channel switching amps will be latch though. Thanks for watching

Infamous Gamers thanks dude! I'm not 100% sure to be honest, I imagine it's doable, but a case of sussing the lead, if the DVI has a common ground the 4 independent wires for triggers the they could potentially be wired into mono jacks for the trigger outs.

There are two ways basically. 1) build a box that does what your pedal control does internally. However instead of on/off switches for you to step on, you install 1/4" female jacks, then connect those jacks to the Joyo with 1/4" cables. Basically the Joyo steps on the switches for you. 2) modify your existing footswitch, or get another one and modify it. Pull out the switches and replace them with 1/4" female jacks. Connect to the Joyo with 1/4" cables. You should get a schematic and ask someone who understands schematics to advise if replacing the switches with 1/4" jacks will work. Some pedals might have a double switch in place, which would need some kind of relay to make it work. The Fender amps use zener diodes and other components in their foot-switches, to change the voltage in the cable to tell the amp to turn things off and on. This is a good method in that it allows a simple guitar cable to carry messages for several switches, but it is a bad method if you want to try and directly control a lot of the Fender amps with an on / off switch. It won't work. I am not familiar with Marshall switching, but if it is a multi-pin switch, then it might actually be carrying multiple on / off switches, which is easier to convert to something that the Joyo could control. Someone should start a business building translator boxes for these amp switch controllers to talk to these Joyo and similar switches.

Thanks mate! Yeah, bizarrely I was only thinking the other day how it's really stood the test of time. I have no complaints about it whatsoever, you won't regret it!

@@marcusdluxe Thanks for the info. Like you I would like a G2 but ..... Cant afford it. In case you see the comment, I Have my rig going to my kemper and I would love the same thing but just midi (controlled with my kemper patch.) Do you know any System that is reasonably affordable with midi ?

@@kreatos10 thanks, glad it's been of some help. They do one of these that is midi, the pxl live. If not the boss units are great from what I've heard, the es5 and es8, but again hike in price.

I'm not a 100% sure but I't sounds conceivable. Have a tinker when you get it and let me know. The only thing I can thing it that the second loops has a send and return...but you wouldn't want the signal returned I suppose. Haha, I'm not sure.

I use with 2 amps. I use the lower bank for dry effects and the upper bank for wet effects - the split between loops 1 and 2 allows this. You can also run from tuner out to a 3rd amp if you like with no fx! Careful with ground loops and phase

Okay I've ran it several ways now. I am using 3 amps. Two blues jr., one is Billm modified with a Cannibis Rex, and the other is stock with a Greenback. The third amp is a Super Champ X2 with a Greenback in it. 1) Using input 1 for guitar and output 2 to the rotochoir, which creates a stereo channel then into delay and reverb. From there splitting into 2 Blues Juniors. Both amps got the same drive and eq pedals etc., but the roto, delay and reverb were in stereo. Nice thick tone. There were pedals on the two banks that were switchable etc. I also took the output of the tuner to a Super Champ X2 dry. 2) Guitar to ABY switch to input 1 & 2. Running the banks separately but tuned up for the voice of each amp. Took the roto choir out of the equation and run output 1 & 2 into the delay and reverb then to the 2 Blues Jrs. Super Champ is still coming out of the tuner dry. This tone is hands down the most amazing thing that I have played through. It inspires me to imagine better melodic leads etc. I should mention that in both setups I am also going through a Stereo Ditto Looper, which lets me have some fun. Should say I have not had any problems with the Joyo Switcher, but I'm fighting ground loop problems with the Blues Juniors. But that is another story.

I split the path with a mimiq doubler after the first bank - take dry to a pair of dry valve amps (using radial tone bones twin city for phase and isolation) then the wet signal goes from my stereo fx into a pair of wet amps (use more isolation ) - wddw - much fun - only downside is absence of stereo loops but I keep stereo delay and verb outside the switcher

As in to send to two different amps?

@@marcusdluxe kind of what the boss es-5 does by splitting the signal within the chain

@@ThomDLuffy I've not used the Boss units to comment

Bypass is when you click the loop you're using to bypass it and go onto a direct amp signal. Bypassing all pedals

@@marcusdluxe ok thanks

Hi, thanks for watching. This videos very old now and gets more action than any other video it seems. Haha. Alas, if you disengage a loop it's disconnected from the outgoing signal so no trails will continue.

@@marcusdluxe But basically, if you would, you could have the delay activated on all banks but with no effect level on a preset 1, but make sure the midi output changes the midi preset to other channels?

@@IronBay yeah, definitely that's an option. I thought we were talking specifically about this model demoed which wasn't midi compatible. But yeah, that's an option if you have the midi version or if you leave the loop live and use the pedal individually as normal.

@@marcusdluxeoh my bad! I thought is was the one with midi. Thanks anyways for the answers!🎉

This was the older version and wasn't midi compatible. I now have the newer harley benton version that does have midi and I use it to control my boss rv-500. The midi only tells it to change parameters etc so yes, still need audio ins and outs

Great. So i guess the audio in and out go in one of the loops? Right? Am looking at the Harley Benton one myself as well. How do you find it? Thanks a lot for your help.

@@hilaryspiteri yeah. So for example I use the rv500, a reverb, so classicly in pedal order I have it last and so its it "l4" of "loop 2" and I use the midi functionality to swith what preset the rv-500 is on depending on the mood of the patch

@@marcusdluxe thanks indeed for your help.

its one i made and since then I've made another that I need to demo.

Hi mate, that's a shame. Yeah, sounds like a fault. Like you said- hit mute once and Tuner is active but still signal. Hit second time and its tuner active and silent. That's odd. Hope you get it sorted.

@@marcusdluxe yep I sent it back and another one is on the way. Yeah it says it’s muting the output but it doesn’t, I’m excited to get a working one because I love what this unit will do to my pedalboard setup. Thanks again mate!

@@nurk_barry yeah, they're cracking units for the money. I'm now on my second as after about six years I wore mine out. Now have the midi version as I have a boss rv500 to control.

That's a new one on me. Unfortunately sounds like a fault. I'd send it back and exchange. Sorry to hear that.

Thanks for replying - I think it might be lack of power - I thought my voodoo power would be enough but it doesn’t deliver 500ma per output. Weird that it worked for a bit ... buying a dedicated power supply today .. fingers crossed.@@marcusdluxe

@@pwarrior66 yeah, that sounds like a plan. They're quite power hungry. Good luck!

yup - power supply sorted it! @@marcusdluxe

@@pwarrior66 awesome! That's good to hear. If you're on Instagram at all give me a follow I post a fair bit on there. @Marcusdluxe

Hi, sorry that isn't clear. It's been a while since I posted the so not sure what's said haha. In short, no. No you can't swap the orders. 1 is in to 2 in to 3 etc.

Hi, I do mention this but not until right the very end. 14:25

Why you certainly did. I must have cut it short and missed that. Thank you.

@@jamesnewlyn1803 no worries. I wasn't sure if I had mentioned or not.

All good bro.

lynyrddeville no, it's just the LEDs on the power supplies lighting up the textured rug.

Thanks! While I got you, is there a manual mode on the joyo where you could set it to alter pedals in your chain on the fly or even say, add a delay at whim to an existing patch?

lynyrddeville to an extent you can in program mode but not as easy as you have to jump up and down through the edit hi/lo banks. The other option is to have a program a patch where all the pedals are on and use the pedals as normal on that one patch. I do this to an extent on a couple of patches- leaving the reverb and tremolo loops on (newer pedalboard layout than this) and just switch them on as and when.

Connor Bowles if I I'm right in understanding the yes. I for example have my fuzz and wah in loop one but the wah is off 90% of the time. As long as loop one is on in the patch I'm playing thru I can then turn off and on the wah as you would normally. The 8 loops are basically just that a loop of cable going through set pedals. If you're playing through an active loop and turn of a pedal in that loop that pedal will simply turn off.

My Guitar Stuff great thank you that helps a lot coz i just bought one of these haha

Connor Bowles haha good work. I've had mine for a few years now still does all I need.

My Guitar Stuff just worrying about how to fit it on my board probs have to rearrange my pedals

Connor Bowles potentially. My boards different to this now, I'm always swapping stuff about. Check out my "two amp setup" video to see a more recent version.

Faraz Khurshid yes, it is buffered.

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or a switcher more commonly.

@drummerchuckb Henning explains how to program it.. it's actually a pretty simple switcher once you get the hang of it..

Linkinbizkit 2001 where are we placing the accent?

West country?