thank you for your amazing comment

@@ballet2558 Je suis complètement d'accord. Self-promotion and self-entitled attitude on social media is not what's going to win you POB auditions and/or respect within the company. Even though Alu and Froustey were from the École de Danse, it seems they thought that public accolades would translate into promotion.

@@bfjkenwood5981 But at the same time then that means that public perception won't work against you.

thank you so much!!

@@ballet2558 Haaa merci pour l'explication. I couldn't understand how she could join the POB without the entrance exam?? And yes, the POB is the only company with exams to be promoted in the ballet, she won't get any big role, but you know that already :)

thank you so much

@@ballet2558 Why does it matter? And why do you have to be so mean? Go away and be mean somewhere else!

@@ballet2558 why are you so mean and ugly? Karma will bite you! trust me on this!

@@kristinen7611 I know right?? Clearly they are either a troll, bitter about not being a ballet dancer?, and/or has some weird grudge against Joy (for some unknown/imaginary reason)… Also, clearly they have left out the fact that POB employs *surnuméraires* and *gasp* they can advance up to the rank of a traditional company contract! It sounds like a cry for professional help…

@@Beane_the_RD Yes. I don't care the reason. It's just another person just being MEAN and impolite. What happend to "If you don't have anything nice to say, do say it?" Thanks for your comment. :)

@@kristinen7611 that’s fair-clearly we have forgotten this mantra that is typically taught in the Kindergarten years!

@@ballet2558 seriously? You are basing this because of whether or not she has her picture on their website? The fact of the matter is that she IS dancing with POB: she is taking class, she is in rehearsals, she is performing in the Corps de Ballet. This is especially fantastic considering that POB doesn’t take too many dancers outside of their “bubble” (i.e.: those who gone through their system of the school in Nanterre and then auditioned into the company). This is a fantastic opportunity for any dancer, it’s obvious that Joy is thrilled to be dancing in such a storied company! and is working on adjusting her technical style to be more in line with the French style (versus her Soviet-era Russian style). She deserves to be happy and post her joy with this!

@@ballet2558 Before we go dumping on POB dancers who don’t make it through the traditional school/examination process, *surnuméraires* are under contract and are members of the ballet! May I remind everyone that this is the route that Ludmila Pagliero went through to where she eventually reached the rank of *Étoile* at POB. (A South American dancer, via American Ballet Theatre, becoming Étoile at the original French Ballet company?!?? Non!) I fail to see how a dancer *under contract* with POB is not a dancer with said company? The elitist snobbery is right up there with the Russian-style xenophobia of not allowing non-Russians to dance in their company, especially in the first year as a company dancer, (*gasp* just like Joy experienced at the Bolshoi! and *gasp* just like Precious Adams while a student at Bolshoi Ballet Academy!)… doesn’t help that with POB being something like 95% French doesn’t help with the fear that anyone outside the “system” isn’t able to learn/dance the French technique!

@@ballet2558 😂🤣😂🤣 Careful there, someone might actually think you have something worthwhile to say! 🤣😂🤣😂 The fact that you keep yourself so entrenched in this bitter thought process, and for what? So you can be butt hurt because a non-French person is dancing with POB? Your Xenophobia is showing! It’s good to know that non-French dancers must be young (sounds just like Hollywood… when does a dancer turn “old”, 25?) and in no way will they ever be offered a traditional company contract because you say so! It’s so good to know that because you are a “donor”, that you have the inside track with José Martinez! Yes like almost every country in Europe (as well as some Asian countries), I’m very much aware of the dancers in France being Civil Servants (gasp! Just like Russia!) and gasp! I’m very much aware of the current retirement age and pension fight/reform going on in France and how Louis XIV fought for this allllll the way back to 1689 (gasp I took Dance History all the way back en Lycée! and I listen to NPR with the occasional France24 or whatever else I can cobble together) Do you know what happens when you ASSUME…?? The fact that you keep trolling any/every post (and clearly can’t bite your tongue) is really quite sad. Now speaking of Armchair Quarterbacking (or in this case, Armchair Psychology), all of your posts have been nothing but pure projection of your internal dialogue/hatred and are in clear need of some professional help. Hate to break it to you-it’s obvious that you are clearly hurting and for some reason, perhaps thinking that non-French people are stealing the very scare ballet spots from French dancers? Quite sad indeed. Perhaps pain au chocolate will help you feel better? hmmm Have a nice day! 👋👋 ✌️✌️ END

@@ballet2558 Who cares about what type of contract or no contract she may have. Nobody cares. The fact that she is in Paris dancing with this company is so amazing! Congrats Joy!

@@ballet2558 aaah. I think you are right. I think Joy has a great story but she has manipulated the truth in the past. But still, having a chance to dance with POB...

@@crustyrash clearly @Ballet has some grudge against Joy (or is otherwise just a miserable person to begin with and wants to gatekeep) because if they had bothered to look up *surnuméraires* they would see that these Dancers are UNDER CONTRACT with POB (see Ludmila Pagliero, current Étoile with POB), even if they didn’t go through the traditional route of joining POB (and don’t have a traditional company contract). So good to see that trolls on the YT get to determine whether what a dancer experiences is “real” or not 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 Last time I checked, having a Contract with a Ballet Company means you are a member of said company and *gasp* are getting paid to take company class, rehearse, and perform with said company!

While she does have a supplemental corps contract, she is not considered part of the company. So the issue is with Joy saying that she has joined the company. Don't get me wrong her achievement her is amazing. I just wish she didn't embellish as she has done in the past.

@@Beane_the_RDWhile her experience might be real what is not real is that she is a member of the Paris Opera Ballet. Being a surnuméraire means that you work for the company for a shot period of time, not that you are part of it. Theres nothing wrong with admitting youre on a short term deal, the problem with her is she always lies about her actual status, like when she claimed to be a principal a whole year or two before being promoted About Ludmila Pagliero, she was 20 years old when she arrived to paris as a surnuméraire and by 22 she was an actual member of the company (quadrille) Joy is already 28. Theyre situations are not comparable