BOSS and HR need to pay you for advertising. This is the most consice feature summary of both. WELL DONE!

Thank you so much again for such an incredible, detailed video. I'm so happy that even now that I bought the RC-600 I'm still keeping my TCH Voice Live Play Acoustic, not only for the Body Rez, but also for the harmonizer and the aux input. Regards.

Excellent & really effective comparison - thanks. I have the Headrush. When it was first released it wasn't much better than an attractive doorstop (nearly useless and shocking it was released like that) but the V2 firmware delivers 99% of expectations. Still a couple of minor quirks when interfacing to other kit but as a do-it-all intuitive device, and ignoring price differential, I still feel it is the best of the bunch.

Great video!! I’ve been fighting screaming and cussing at my RC600 trying to get it to act as a midi slave without glitching the loops out and ruining them. Still not really any closer to a fix. Boss has finally had a rep reach out to me but they haven’t come up with any solutions other than erase everything and reinstall all the software.. really frustrating. I’m really hoping with time Boss fixes this thing but overall I’m really sick of companies using their customers as beta testers and releasing half finished products. It’s a culture that needs to change but only seems to get worse as we all just accept firmware updates.

Love my RC600, As a new looper lots to learn but you soon get the hang of it.Purchased your looping course and its great as you can go back to it whenever you want to find what your trying to do

I went into this video thinking it was too long, but I was actually captivated, great info sharing, pace and total presentation, ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

I have the RC-600. I bought it a couple months ago and I gig with it. I’m not a high tech minded guy. I don’t have an engineering type of brain. I kinda wanna try the headrush after watching this! It seems simpler and I’m not gonna use a ton of customizable stuff.

Thanks dude! Much appreciated. I went with the RC600 as a "side-grade" to my RC300 due to 2nd hand proces on the RC300. The plan was for a 6 loop set up with two rc300's. Now it's hopefully a mega 9 loop set-up. I have heard from another KZfaq video that you can midi control the rhythm section on the RC600 with a midi keyboard/ mpc pads. So my electric drum kit can be wired in without sacrificing an audio input. I am yet to try it out and see how it works, but the prospects seem quite interesting. Thanks again.

I was so excited to pick up a HR Looperboard a couple years back, only to have to spend an entire weekend with their technical support trying to upgrade the firmware. I wound up returning it the following Monday. There was no way to upgrade the firmware regardless of what we tried, which for me (as someone who’s worked in IT for some time) is a massive red flag. Great video, John. I love all the advancement we’re seeing with loopers, and look forward to what’d coming up.

This is so amazingly covered, great job!!

Excellent video,. Coming from a boss RC 300, where menu diving is kind of a drag for me I was looking into maybe something new and more usable. I really love the headrush interface.

Excellent video. I got the RC600 a few weeks ago and finally started working out some material on it this week. It's been a very frustrating experience trying to get some basic loop workflows, such as recording onto a loop with a pickup beat (nearly impossible). It's also frozen on me several times, even with the latest firmware. Out of frustration, I found this video, as I'm researching other loopers. I still have more investigating to do on the RC-600, but I don't want to miss the return window. Anyway, thanks for a very informative video. You are changing lives! lol

Outstanding review. Thank you!

This was very helpful, awesome comparison

Nice vid JP. I’m stubbornly sticking with Looperboard despite ‘foot switch-gate”. I’ve never really liked boss products across the line and, although I am always tempted by ‘Boss’s latest looper’, I never end up jumping ship. I just wish you’d released this video with the “restore to factory setting and reinstall the update” advice a bit earlier. Just spent 2 days sweating, swearing and frantically trying to troubleshoot why my Looperboard was glitching loops. Turned out I’d updated straight over an update, without reverting. I ended up taking it back to factory settings and reinstalling a previous version, then doing both steps again but with the latest version and it seems the day has been saved. Sound advice my good man along with “back up your board”. Just in case anyone is wondering, if you hold the 2 bottom row buttons in the right hand corner (rec/overdub/play for tracks 3 & 4) and then turn on your Looperboard, it should say “reverting” and take to back it to factory settings, it will delete everything though, so back up your board to PC first.

Many thanks for this video.👊👊👊

Brilliant comparison and detail in this mate 👌👌

thx for great and clean comparison!

Thank you for this !! Just received the RC 600 and discover that i can't record on seperate tracks simultaneously, i thought it could obviously do that since it's possible to rout the inputs but... i'm considering sending it back now.... Does the overhead (or any other looper you know) offer that option ?

Great video, JP! 🎉 Thanks!

Awesome video! Thanks for this!!!

Nice video but I think I want to share my experiences with one of the described pedals. Namely the RC-600. Just because John Paul mentiones the firmware problems and that he does not have them - lucky John Paul. By it´s specs it looked like it would be perfect for us (MarrowVoltage - 3 piece electro band with cello) But the damn thing refused to work as midi slave and as midi master. The behaviour was so odd that we ordered another brand new one just to learn - the fault is by design. We tried to sync the RC-600 from an Octatrack that is in my experience a reliable clock source (successfully paired it with drum machines, sequencers, synths in the past). But the RC-600 quit with an ugly / kryptic error message (System Error LC 2807 0110) and had to be power cycled. Not for long as this happened continuously. Then we thought, ok maybe the Octatrack is not precise enough let´s invest in an even thighter clock source - the ERM Multiclock. The most precise clock for quite some money. Result was the same - system error. We didn´t want this at first but was we wanted to make music and have an upcoming show we tried to use the RC-600 as a master clock. This turned out to be even worse. We had such an enormous amount of jitter that our grooves went nuts. Our Elektron machines did go up and down 2-5 bpm and anything was unusable. Despite the fact that it should be up to the user how to synchronize things (slave/master) a machine should do what is advertised. The RC-600 DID NOT !! I assume that this machine is made for guitar players and a solo show with only internal synchronisation. I can´t imagine anything else someone could do with this box. It´s fine if John Paul has no problems with the firmware but putting this to the market is ridiculous. Beta-testing is the right name for that. Don´t get me wrong. Nothing against sorting some flaws in firmware updates in an already working product. This is done by a lot of companies in very good way (thing Access/Kemper, Elektron just to name a few). The RC-600 should clearly be advertised as non-syncable. The midi interface is for remote control - maybe. Your mileage may vary but I am cured from using Boss loopers. So now we´re in for the Headrush an hope that this thing does not suck when it comes to midi sync.

You are Amazing, thanks for The Information .

What a great comparison! I have tried both and ended up with the RC-600 for it's size and versatility. I really hope they introduce true auto (natural) hamronies though! It is my most wanted feature on the RC-600. At the moment I am mounting a VE-500 on my pedalboard just for that function and would much rather have it fully integrated with the looper instead.

Great comparison! TY JP.

Amazing video! Thanks! I’ll explore the channel :)))

Bloody solid video/comparison, man! ;) I sold my RC-50 recently, as I switched to Ableton and XSonic pedals. But I’ve had my eye on the HRush since it came out. If i eventually go DAWless, again, I’ll probably get one. Roland products are great, but they’re sort of too generic. It kind of puts me off. The HR is so expensive though… Thanks again for the video. Really really good side by side comparison. Congrats! ;)

Great comparison, thank you for this! I own the RC-600 and lately having serious troubles with it - from not being able to sync a new loop to total failure - the whole machine just turns itself off. Not great during gigs. I'm going to wipe it clean and re-update it, to see if it's stable again, otherwise I'm thinking about switching to the Headrush Looperboard!

Cool! Thanks for doing this!

Your videos are great, thanks. I’m wondering if you have plans to do a Loopy vs RC 600 comparison. By the way does Lupe have a foot switch capability? Thank you so much

Awesome .. I swear I've been eyeing both for a while. I've had an rc300 for several years, but was just about to buy the headrush .. and then dropped the 600 .. and now I'm curious about the 505 after watching you mess around with it too, but it's probably not a direct comparison like these two .. the struggles. Great break down! I'm really leaning towards the headrush though because it has less customization. I went to Ableton for the customization, but now want something like the 300 designed to work within a predefined structure. Plus, feel like if ever there was one board that could work for an acoustic gig, guitar and vocals.. this would be it. Though, it needs a little more, but maybe in a 3.0 update. It seems so close to being an all in one .. would love to have it to play with endlessly and see where I could get. The only thing I really like better about the boss is the size. I've looked over the manual and searched youtube ... does the RC-600 have a built in tuner? I don't think so .. and if it doesn't, that auto-harmony feature probably isn't an option. I'd wager it lacks the hardware needed to determine an instruments key and then allow you to use it to harmonize .

Love this guy. Brilliant!

I have a Digitech for small jobs and a 300 I was curious about the 600 so I found your video, thanks for all the details also comparing to the Headrest, witch is new for me. In your opinion what's the best loop when it goes to loop syncopated rhythms I play latin music...thanks in advance, thumbs up and subbed!

Great video on both loopers 👌I actually thought the Flagship Headrush was gonna be the biggie…mmm ( was a user of the RC 300) while back when they were about. Both very technical to get the head around.. for studio use only I’m gonna wait till I see what the pro’s say on which is best for STUDIO use.Thanks. Glasgow Scotland🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Thanks for this I’ve got my headrush looper board cause I wanted more. I’ve been using my RC300 for 7yrs and the one thing that I don’t use my headrush LB, is because of the rhythm section. I love the beefy sound of it on my RC300 On my headrush LB, the rhythm section sucks!! So I love the fact that the RC600s drum machine can be used in various ways

Can you record something using the looper and then bounce it to the backing track player all in the box? Essentially the looper section would have to mix down or have a record option - save to (.wav) then load .wav into the player?

Nice video, would be nice to see a reviews on the Singular sound Aeros, Beat buddy, and the midi maestro all together. See how it stands up to the Boss and HR

Great video as always. I have a couple questions, what are the 2 pedals you are using on the side of your play acoustic? Also, is your fs7 connected only to looper? I picked up rc600 a few months ago but I still have put it on my board yet. I’m trying to narrow down the pedals I want on new board. I was thinking about using an fs7 and having one extra button for looper and one button for chorus on play acoustic. Thanks again for all your great videos.

Been using the RC300 for over a decade, just upgraded to the 600 and getting it set up

Hi! Thanks for all these videos and tutorials. Think that both you and me play alot of same music style and are in to the same gear.. I have so much trouble to decide wich looper i should go for. Had an rc600 but i had so much trouble with it that i got the money back from the store. Got an headrush instead and had it for around 6 months. Like that it got everything, all possibilities with routing, fx and everything. BUT i used ableton for a white in between and fell in love with the possibilities to automate everything in advance. For example i could set up tempo, trig channel 1 to record with one kind of fx, record for 2 bars, then automaticly move over to record channel 2, 4 bars, switch fx and then overdub. Yes you understand. The problem with ableton was that i couldnt program any midi pedal to work like an analog looper in a decent way. Now for a question. Wich looper or software do you prefer? Ive downloaded loopy pro to my iPad now and Will try it out in a few days with my nektar pacer. Do you think that Will open up more Doors then the headrush? I cant spend alot of money on the gear now and the only thing im dreaming about is a decent guitar and vocalsound, minimise all pressing in livesoituation and the ability to change fx on the go. I dont want same setup on guitar like drumchannel. Thanks in advance.

can you make a video on how to control just the rhythm or guide level with an expression or 2 button pedal?

I have a guitar pedal with a wet and a dry output. I’d love to record the wet and dry signal simultaneously, and separately (able to be separated) is this possible on the looperboard?

I have the Looperboard, great for a newbie acoustic person to start playing around but now that I’m further down the rabbit hole, is there a way to connect an external fx pedal I inherited to the Looperboard and to route it where I want it?

Seriously a profoundly thorough and easy to understand explanation. Above and beyond.

Fantastic review. That was amazing. I think I am going for BOSS based on this video. How do we get you the commission?

Have to say, the routing options on the headrush make it a winner for me. The ability to output each looper track to it's own individual input on my mixer, and thus easily add EQ and volume controls separately, as well as easily control each track in my in-ear monitor mix is a game changer. As far as I'm aware, the rc600 only has 3 outputs for 6 channels?

Hi John, fantastic video! I'm following your precious guides about Rc600. I already have one, but I'd like to buy a Headrush Looperboard too. A reseller of my country told me about a new version of the same available in the next months (maybe next February). Do you have some rumors or any suggestions about?

I just ordered the RC-600 last week and it should be delivered today 😍 hoping they add a touchscreen to a future firmware update 😜

Hey John, what happened with the Loopy Pro content? You seemed to come out of the gate pretty enthusiastic on that and it all ended. In the meantime, still liking my RC-500 but strangely I am drawn to the 600 just to break free of the rhythm stuff on this, when I originally thought that was a great reason to buy it in the first place! Times change, watching what Matt Bolton can do with his drum pad and not wasting hours looking for the "right" rhythm in the 500.

Still on a TC DUO x2 haha I would really benefit from something better with midi to sync things with my drum machines / synths. Thinking of either of these or just setting something that loops up in reaper with some sort of controller to arm / loop tracks

Hey JP... Question: Has the Headrush been discontinued? I was researching both about 2mo back and there were a couple of sellers offering brand new Headrush Looperboard for 400.00 which where I live was extremely low...So low in fact it seemed too low...anyway I went with the 600 but that was a tough decision as 400 was a very nice price...for the Headrush...Now it seems several of the large retailers have listed it as "no longer available" which has me curious....

Congratulations on your channel, it's awesome. I have a question, I am a singer and solo guitarist and I would use the boss rc600 to trigger backing tracks. I am concerned about the ability and performance of the Bosss rc-600 to store and play 90 drum and bass backing tracks on each song. The duration of each theme would be around five minutes Do you think it would be possible? or maybe you think headrush looperboard is better for this? Thank you so much

Solid info, thanks :) ...... Is it possible to transfer loops from the RC-300 when upgrading to the RC-600?

Hi, you use the helicon with the looper. what do you miss on the rc600?

Even the Boss Cube Street II has auto harmony from the guitar input so that’s a big surprise the RC-600 doesn’t…

Excellent comparison and review... I'm done with Boss and their crappy menu-diving interfaces... They are in dire need of touch screens...

Idk I’m sold on my setup now. iPad Pro w/ Loopy, ZoomH6, M-Wave Chocolate midi pedal.

When u say "channels 7 and 8" (of the RC600).. I assume u R speaking of Vendor mode which I've never used, (it's not well explained anywhere that I am aware of..) but U make such good videos, it would be EPIC if u made a video on Vendor Mode. (nobody has done THAT..) Questions I'd have is... (can it be used in vendor mode without having it hooked up to a computer? +if so.. (all those options for custom programming channels 1-6..) do they give U an option to program additional channels 7+8 into the foot-switches when vendor mode kicks in?)

Hello Paul, greetings from Colombia. I wanted to know if with the boss rc 600 I also have the possibility to choose to only record one instrument. That is to say, if I am connected with my guitar and voice with the rc 600, can I only choose to record only the guitar? or just the voice? as if the headrush allows it?

I have the Looperboard. I needed a looper and Boss hadn't released the 600 yet. I really like the Looperboard. it's got a very good interface and the sound quality is great. My one complaint is the vocal harmonizer activation process. To turn the harmonies on and off, you have to hit the "FX" button which then brings you to another layer of footswitch configurations and then you you have to hit the corresponding button that you've assigned as the on/off switch. The frustration = if you only use harmonies on the chorus, for example, this means you have to first activate the chorus track, then hit the fx button then hit the harmonies button. To get back to verse track, you have to reverse this. It really makes for some nasty tap dancing. If HeadRush allowed you to assign one of the buttons to turn the harmonizer on/off on the same button configuration layer as the tracks, it would make life way easier. The other thing is the actual quality of the harmonizer. I don't know if this would actually be any easier on the Boss or not.

Headrush LooperBoard now $499 all over the place. Thanx for all your info. I'm with you. A 7" touch screen on my RC 600 might even beat a desktop editor. Either would be a huge step in a friendly direction. You are a helpful guy. Loop the world.

How about the boss 505 with a foot switch vs the headrush? Your thoughts?

what would you prefer in terms of quality of effects?

i had the rc-1/500/600, and honestly im lost the rc 600 has so much potential...but the ui is overwhelming.

Have auto harmonies been added to the RC 600 yet?

Any notice about new Headrush Looper to replace this discontinued model . . . ?

I just bought the looperboard but now I am wondering if I should have bought the boss. I have no experience in looping but i just don’t want to have to upgrade for a few years. What would you guys recommend? It’s still early in the game so I am open to returning and getting the rc I’m just not sure. Any help is appreciated.

Pricewise in Dez 2022 on the used market its 450 EUR (Boss) vs 550 EUR (HR)...

Nailed everything. I still like the Headrush more for ease of use and for how I loop. But I did finally sell it. First RC600 I bought it was early and was no where near ready for live for the way I loop. I gave it about a month and sold it cause I had kept the HR. Then the new firmware landed and while not perfect, it’s gigable for me. Saved space and weight but sure miss the ease of use and on the fly quick adjustments of the HR. I had problems with the switches and swapped to lehle but those ended up having issues as well. Looks like small bear switches like Carl Wokner uses are the way to go.

I'm using the Looperboard with my VL3X. I just can't seem to get rid of the VL3X just yet.

No mention to the switch issues with the looperboad? It is a great looper but does not work properly when pressing the switches. Some people got lehle switches for it. But I sold it and got a RC600. Tougher to set up but more reliable in my opinion

can i make 6 rigs/patches, attach them with 6 loop tracks, and turn them on with the respective 6 loop tracks when I am looping?

🔥🔥🔥

This is exactly the problem they had with the voice live extreme! There were so many complaints about it crashing! The problem is they bring out these incredible devices that do everything but they don’t feckin test them properly 🤷🏻‍♀️

Personally I don't like cars with touch-screens, i don't like ovens with touch-screens.. I don't like thermostats with touch-screens.. +I am SO glad that the RC600 does NOT have a big screen, or worse yet, a "touch screen." ("touchscreens" are so satanic +unpleasant to touch..) The RC600 screen is perfectly small in size to not take up valuable space. (the only instance where I would be in favor of a big screen would be If they were to build something that could be hooked up +used with the big screen of a computer (only when setting it up, or re-configuring it between gigs.. to get a birds eye view of the routing options etc.) that would be ok, (although unnecessary, since it can already be done without a big screen), but it might be nice as it could be easier to understand and use.. but why would u want a big screen on a looper that is used on the floor?? Who is going to want to move their mouth away from the mic, +bend over while wearing a guitar to try to start fondling touch screen? Forget it. I'd much rather program it ahead of time, +just play the RC600 with my feet. The only thing the RC600 really needs is a dimmer switch for those obnoxiously bright lights on the other parts of the pedal

Does the looper board have a way of triggering intro, outro and drum fills patterns on the fly? For example, on my digitech SDRUM I can hold a switch for and outro drum fill and another switch will “insert” or trigger a fill whoever I hit the switch anytime while the loop is playing. Thanks in advance!

In today's world, the HRLB is discontinued with no reason or follow up. Honestly I think I would prefer the HeadRush over the RC600 for my needs, but it's really hard to justify the large purchase of a discontinued product with no hope of support. Anybody else?

They both crash. I've experienced it first hand. System error 3071 on the RC600, and the headrush just freezes.

Headrush looperboard is terrible because of the switches and the company. The switches kept going out after 5 months….. and the company has still not responded to my email about getting a replacement. 5 months waiting mind you so i had to go back to old faithful rc 300 and its always been amazing!!!! And now 600 i am tempted to get it!

I've already got an rc600 and love it to bits and to be honest i prefere to have 2 pedals for each track and i also love the track and input fx and I'm glad the rc600 has multiple pages so tbh the rc600 wins (comment down below your thoughts)!

I own Both of them. MY personal experience so far is that as much as I like the boss for it's look,size and "potential" customization. it is simply to much of a pain in the ass to configure. I am a tech savy guy but get frustrated with it every-time I sit down to mess with it. For the life of me I don't know why boss wouldn't have at the very least a computer interface for configuration. It is simply to fucking complicated to navigate all those options with an LCD screen unless you are planning on spending days studying the manual and downloadable parameters manual. As for the Head Rush... plugged it in, updated it... started playing and having fun right out of the box! It is really night and day with how easy it is to configure and understand compared to the rc600. But, it is limited. There isn't but so much you can do with the four channels. It has less options but is way more intuitive for pumping out musical ideas and just having fun. The dilemma: Not interested in lugging around a 40lb computer to gigs. The headrush's screen isn't going to be doing me any favors when I am playing multiple instruments and entertaining a crowd and without the touchscreen it's honestly much more limited then past looper stations. I will be holding on to the RC600 and wait for boss/roland to get their head out of their asses, hire a programmer or two and create a rc600 interface. Then I will see if there are any buyers left for the headrush.

I'm SO GLAD that the RC600 does NOT have a touchscreen !! That would ruin it.

How about Aeros looper?

RC 600 so far, I've found very good. I'm disappointed about not being able to name each track. And a "Note pad" section for each memory would be very handy. Sound wise and mixer/track flexibility is very nice: being able to route the "input/tracks" to the sub outputs in different configurations is a great mixer type feature; these units should have at least 4 separate outputs (stereo) and at least 8 inputs (stereo) for multiple instruments and other mixers to connect to the RC 600 since the recording quality is so good. Essentially that would make the unit into the only piece of equipment you would need to take to a gig and connect straight to the PA.

It's highly unlikely that deleting your loops before installing new firmware on your RC-600 affected the process in any way, even if the board worked from that point on. If I'm misunderstanding and you found a way to re-flash the unit that's a different story. I've had teething issues with it as well. Currently my loops start to distort as if they've been time-stretched when acting as a tempo slave despite the host, my DAW, sending a constant timecode. Also I can't get most effects to span more than one track. I am, however, stoked that the loop sync issue is fixed.

I didn't buy either of them. I went for the Boss RC-505 MK2 instead. Modern loopers like the Boss RC-600 are becoming too complicated and less intuitive to use. They are crammed with so many features that require deep diving into menus and sub menus just to get simple tasks done. That's what the DAW's are there for. There are some physical attributes i enjoy on the RC-505 MK2 that are missing on one or both the RC-600 and the Looperboard, like individual faders per track, FX buttons per track and the Stop, Start and Rec buttons per track. I thought the RC-600 was going to be a more modern looking update of the RC-300 with a much bigger touch screen and still retain some physical controllers like the individual faders and foot switches, but i was disappointed in the new form factor of the RC-600.

Head rush I own and I own the rc 300… but the head rush has lots of issues

You must dream about looper boards ha

What do you mean 1.5 hours per memory? Memory?

HR just dropped to $499 USD. I think it now takes the cake considering the other differences.

I went from pretty much hating the RC-600 to LOVING IT!!! My biggest issue in the past was a bug that came with a firmware update. Sometimes when I hit UNDO on the RC-600, it would change to a new, random bpm and it would train wreck the performance. This happened multiple times in front of an audience. I was ready to throw that thing out the f-ing window. Then, like a bolt of lightning from the heavens, a new firmware update dropped and fixed almost all my problems. The issues that remain are these: 01: No guitar tuner? WTF that seems like an oversight, I can't believe its not included. 02: Like most everyone else, I wish there was an auto vocal harmonizer 03: More ASSIGNS! I know 16 probably seems like plenty to a lot of people, but I use 9 of them just assigning faders to the individual track volumes + the rhythm volume.

Why have they still not got this right?! You still have to spend all night bent over faffing about with settings! They need to put the software on a tablet so you can control it with both your feet and your hands! Tadaaaaaaaa! However it does look to me that the head rush is the easiest to use?

Looperboard still does not sync to midi

What this newbie took away. Headrush is Apple and Boss is Linux. Headrush is artist friendly, Boss is engineer friendly. Lol

I don’t know why anyone with any intelligence would make a foot pedal that you have to bend over and use your fingers to make selections. How bout making the drums a separate unit that connects to the looper and can be put on a stand for ease of use to select you genre, tempo etc. I have an Alesis SR18 drum machine that I run into my RC1…. Yes RC1… and have my on off foot switch connected to that on the floor. No bending or reaching. I want more looping choices but I am not going to pay for a foot switch that requires hands. That makes no sense. Nor does updating the software on these things. Build it to do what it does. What’s the problem? I lose interest in the thought of purchasing these things when I read about how they stop working after a while. Made to break.

Egyszerű a választás: a Headrush-t NEM lehet frissíteni(!!!) Alap verzióban küldik, az elérhető funkciók felével. Hiába keresed őket, nem reagálnak semmire!!! NEHOGY eszedbe jusson megvenni! Az rc 600-ban bizhatsz, kicsit nehezebb megtanulni.

Next time stop talking so much and show us how to play. 5 minutes you talking good, but more than 25 minutes without playing ???. You're out your mind!!