Play the Drums on RC-500 #looppedal #bossrc500 #loopstation

Is there anything to change on the RC 500 ? To program midi?

Just should be on midi channel 10 and this is for playing the drum sounds.

Thanks for the share! Yes it works with the RC-500. Set: INPUT > RYTHM > LOOP (tested with the Launchkey Mini Mk3 midi controller)

Sorry to ask, but I'd be interested if the RC-10r also can be triggered like this.@@JohnPaulMusicUK

You are very welcome 🙏 No problem. 👍🏻 Here is the playlist to all the RC-600 videos I have made so far - kzfaq.info/sun/PLO36LpORUSaa9-oX7LbZ4CRRUHMiWoU0s I also have a FULL RC-600 course with over 55 unique deep dive videos in, which you can now pay for monthly! Put SUBSCRIBER in the checkout for a discount - www.johnpaulmusic.co.uk/offers/Bw8uzFw2/checkout And if you want 121 consultation, I do this as well: www.johnpaulmusic.co.uk/coaching-options

More than welcome 🙏

More than welcome 🙏

Woohoo! Nice 👍🏻 Here’s how to program it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bZh5aduXsLncpXU.htmlsi=VCUc5Ht6xDna-iYk

Ace 👍🏻 get it whilst it’s cheaper on Amazon.. and just learnt that you can still use my code on Amazon as well!!!!

@@JohnPaulMusicUK It works! Thank you John Paul! Have been learning a tremendous amount of navigation of rc600 from you. Coming from a 300 I had no idea how much more advanced it is. Couldn't do it without you

Yeah that’s nice to have that midi out. This works well with the little adapter. 👍🏻

OMG 😳! YES!!!

Yes

good question. yes easy to do.

That’s cool regarding the handsonic. So to answer Q1, I’m looking to use my iPhone instead for lyrics as the iPad is too big (12.9) and I have an IK iPhone holder. For the second question, yes you could do this with one of the dials on the TempoPAD and assign it to ‘RHYTHM KIT’ to switch kits. 👍🏻 quite useful to switch between a full studio kit and percussion. 😊

Hey 👋 Glad the videos are helping. To answer your question, yes you can allow the drums (rhythm) to be recorded onto the loops and you can dictate how through routing. 👍🏻 Checkout my course on the RC-600 here: www.johnpaulmusic.co.uk/boss-rc-600-course-page Put the word ‘subscriber’ in the checkout page 😉

Yes. It’s CC#’s so you can instead just change the TempoPad to be on a different midi channel (channel 10 is where the drums are) and then use assigns to each button for what you want to achieve.

If you can get midi notes (which I’m sure you can) then yes! 👍

I thought you would like this Wallace. 👍🏻

@@JohnPaulMusicUK I currently use the HPD 20 and its the carting of all the gear that gets to you

I totally get that!! Hence the small footprint (as much as I can), the wireless connectivity and weight! I’m not 21 anymore and lugging all that equipment takes it’s toll!

@@JohnPaulMusicUK yea man I hear you I’m 62 now ha ha and back is buggered after each gig. But I love it. I use a big Bose L1 32 and Sub so apart from that my board must be light and little plug in as possible 🤣🤣

I think I'll sell my spd and just get this anyway but God I've never used midi... This should be interesting and I so... Hope it controls the tempo with one of those knobs... please make a video on how to set that up!

That’s fair. Cool idea. This setup is for adding things in live I suppose but boy it would be good to quantise! 🤣

Wow! I’m honoured. Check this video out next for complete setup - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bZh5aduXsLncpXU.htmlsi=W66RPffseGnryuTY

Hey 👋 Firstly thank you for the kind words. Secondly it’s might all be about which notes are being triggered. You might have to set it to go down an octave or two. The drums are always set at the bottom half of a keyboard and if the LPD8 is triggering in the middle (for example C4 and above) then that might be why. Make sure the LPD8 is on midi channel 10 and so is the RC-600. In this next video, I go over programming it up. Take this and cross reference with your own. Hope it helps. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bZh5aduXsLncpXU.htmlsi=IA_0uki-RYkLxcsa

Hey Ryan. So the answer is yes. You would have to use an assign and one of the options for assign is track (1-6) pan. 👌 you could assign that to the dials 👍🏻

If the Akai MPX8 will see it as a midi controller then yes!

It comes with a MIDI adapter and then just used a normal midi cable. 👍🏻

This is interesting as I have met a lot of musicians who have the RC-600 and the first thing they want.. is what the RC-505 gives them. Volume control in each track. The simplest way to achieve this with the 600 is to use the Korg nanoKontrol2 with usb cable straight into the USB-B slot of the 600. Then program that up.

@@JohnPaulMusicUK woah, wait does that mean I could use the midi in/out to certain equipment and then get even more control by using USB B equipment?

Donner makes the starry pad, which is quite similar, including in price. It has two faders and two knobs tho so you're still not covering all tracks. I'm not familiar with this looper but an arturia beat step has 16 knobs and 16 pads and is a product I've heard lots of good stuff about. It's almost the same price too. I own a couple pieces of arturia gear and they're quality

For what it's worth, I tried plugging a Novation Launchkey 49 that I had into my RC600 and it didn't work. I didn't really expect it to, but when I'll finally buy nanoKontrol2 I will make sure to report back. I'd also like to take this opportunity and say thank you John for your advice

So.. basically yes to everything! Once you switch over to make the RC-600 listen to the drums and rhythm section as a recordable loop, it’s a yea to all your questions. One work of warning regarding the drums. It’s a high possibility that you may overdub too much by accident and can get some serious phasing happening. Be careful not to overdub the same drum sound. But yes. Record a loop of rhythm and record a percussion. No problem. 👍🏻

@@JohnPaulMusicUK I'm trying to downsize also. I run everything into a mixer, then into a rc 300. Plus an Alexis pro pad. What are your thoughts about getting rid of the mixer and run everthing into the rc 600 plus get the drum pad your talking about.

@@JohnPaulMusicUK after you record the drums on a loop can you shut off the drum machine but listen to the loop with the drum rhythm on it?

Yes is does. You can adjust every input and output if you wish. 👍🏻 😊

Yes. Should be fine as long as it is sending midi CC#’s

Quantise is to sync the length of the loop to a specific timing or to another loop. It won’t quantise the rhythm if you play out of time as it’s still audio being recorded in. It’s simply there to nudge the recording from when you stomp the pedal to be bang on with the first loop you put down. Hope that makes sense?

Awesomeness! Here is the playlist to all the RC-600 videos I have made so far - kzfaq.info/sun/PLO36LpORUSaa9-oX7LbZ4CRRUHMiWoU0s I also have a FULL RC-600 course with over 55 unique deep dive videos in, which you can now pay for monthly! Put SUBSCRIBER in the checkout for a discount - www.johnpaulmusic.co.uk/offers/Bw8uzFw2/checkout And if you want 121 consultation, I do this as well: www.johnpaulmusic.co.uk/coaching-options

It’s awesome, right? Here is the playlist to all the RC-600 videos I have made so far - kzfaq.info/sun/PLO36LpORUSaa9-oX7LbZ4CRRUHMiWoU0s I also have a FULL RC-600 course with over 55 unique deep dive videos in, which you can now pay for monthly! Put SUBSCRIBER in the checkout for a discount - www.johnpaulmusic.co.uk/boss-rc-600-course-page

hey that’s awesome! no there shouldn’t be and risk issues. if they behave like RC6 or 7 pedals then you should be good but don’t think you’ll get more than 2 buttons to work.. keep me posted thou. if they run of CC numbers then you’ll have to assign them. Here is the playlist to all the RC-600 videos I have made so far - kzfaq.info/sun/PLO36LpORUSaa9-oX7LbZ4CRRUHMiWoU0s I also have a FULL RC-600 course with over 55 unique deep dive videos in, which you can now pay for monthly! Put SUBSCRIBER in the checkout for a discount - www.johnpaulmusic.co.uk/offers/Bw8uzFw2/checkout And if you want 121 consultation, I do this as well: www.johnpaulmusic.co.uk/coaching-options

Best option is to use the unofficial but brilliant rc600 editor from John Moose Taylor. Check here: rc600editor.com

So it’s a yes and then a no. The rhythm track is on midi channel 10 so as long as you plug it in, then yes you can play the RC-5’s drums.. however.. there isn’t a way internally to send the rhythm track to the looper to be recorded as a loop. One of the limitations of the RC-5 I’m afraid. Rhythm Loop routing is available on the RC-500 and above. However you could still play them with an external device. 👍🏻

Yes you can. 👍🏻 It’s a midi controller and you would need to use an assign. Here is the playlist to all the RC-600 videos I have made so far to help you - kzfaq.info/sun/PLO36LpORUSaa9-oX7LbZ4CRRUHMiWoU0s I also have a FULL RC-600 course with over 55 unique deep dive videos in, which you can now pay for monthly! Put SUBSCRIBER in the checkout for a discount - www.johnpaulmusic.co.uk/offers/Bw8uzFw2/checkout And if you want 121 consultation, I do this as well: www.johnpaulmusic.co.uk/coaching-options

Certainly does: kzfaq.info6PMDexQZidM?si=2TkcYkEKBX1UIcls

Yes and yes.

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Make sure you have the ability to go octave down on the pad to get to the lower notes. Or if you can reprogram them to C2

Yes. In this scenario the TempoPad is controlling the midi of the drums on the Boss RC-600 Loop station but if you wanted to trigger sounds that are different, you would need something plugged up to it like a midi based plugin or hardware.. but yes. 👍🏻

That’s a good question. They are actually midi notes so kick drum starts on C2.

Yes. 👍🏻 - video about changing the control knobs on the way 🎛️

So this is true.. similar concept. Wow, I would be looking at a piece of paper and a pen and drawing it all out. Depends how you want to control things. Wether different things need to be on their own midi channel or not and then the routing of the audio. Why two drum machines if I may ask?

@@JohnPaulMusicUK The Alesis Strike multipad because i wanted save space in my music room and the IK Uno Drum was because portability and also simplicity with great sound. Also in both i had a great price sale that i couldn't let pass . I received yesterday my Boss RC600 and i just realised that is not simple easy and straight forwards to use . You so right , i need a paper to write dow this all process of connect all instruments, i will need time and lots of patience . I wouldn't connect both drum machines at same time . I was looking yesterday how i could connect one of the drum machine, the piano and synthesizer, at same time , as all use midi connection , and i found the midi cable 5 pin to 1/4 mono jack cable probably be something can work . This way i could have one single instrument sign to his own track . Yesterday i was able to connect my guitar and Alesis Strike Multipad by midi but this i couldn't record any loop with , only with the guitar . I was so excited till I realised i couldn't loop , not sure if is because i need to assign track/foot switch to each instrument i want. I have the Boss RC2 and it was already dificult to me to understand and for that reazon i have it in the shelve . I Brought the TC Electronic Plethora X5 and is the most simple and intuitive pedal i ever owned , the looper is just so easy to use , i never read the manual at all to use this pedal . Now the Boss is diferent , i will need time and time and patience for what i can see. I been watching your videos they are great and well explained , is going to help me to understand this pedal . I see many videos peoplo playing multi instruments (guitar, bass , piano, synthesizer ,drum machine and microphone) with the Boss RC600 but couldn't find any tutorial how to connect them to the looper. Looking at the video publicity from Boss and watch someone playing all those instruments into to the Boss RC600, it looks like a easy thing assemble . Would be great if in the future you could make a video tutorial explaining all this process I

No problem. 👍🏻 Yeah your gonna have to spend some time with it. Remember midi is for sending signals when it comes to the RC-600. It doesn’t record midi as a loop. So.. your homework.. Here is the playlist to all the RC-600 videos I have made so far - kzfaq.info/sun/PLO36LpORUSaa9-oX7LbZ4CRRUHMiWoU0s I also have a FULL RC-600 course with over 55 unique deep dive videos in, which you can now pay for monthly! Put SUBSCRIBER in the checkout for a discount - www.johnpaulmusic.co.uk/offers/Bw8uzFw2/checkout And if you want 121 consultation, I do this as well: www.johnpaulmusic.co.uk/coaching-options

Exactly. 👍🏻

Yes. As long is it’s supplying the CC numbers to tell the RC-600 which ones to press. 👍🏻

Oooh both of those sound bizarre. So check you haven’t got any Track FX assigned to the same midi CC number an and check the midi port channel for any conflicting midi messages.

Hi John, the reverse was my fault, I saved it. Is it possible to have a remote fs 6 pedal to turn off and on the rythem button. (Below the MENU button) that way with I can use the midi controller for the individual drum sounds plus active a built in drum rythem off and on. I can thank you enough for your help. This rc 600 is a beast, alot to learn and you are the man. Thank you

Not yet, no.

Yes. You will just have to go into MENU> OUTPUT>INPUT/RHYTHM>INPUT THRU and turn it from On to off. Now you will only hear the recordings of the loops and not the guitar coming through the looper.

Thanks!

Hey Bryan. Firstly here is the UK link for the TempoPAD : amzn.to/455KNDn But secondly yes, the MPK mini will do it. Just need to figure out the CC numbers.

MENU > Right arrow > MIDI > RHYTHM (set to ch10 by default) - change to ch1. 👍🏻

That’s a damn fine question. I don’t know as I no longer have my 300. Would have to try it or ask in the RC-300 FB group.

@@JohnPaulMusicUKyou’re really legendary and you’re super clear too! Every video is so inspiring and… eventually I’ll get the RC600 😂

Ace 👍🏻

Yes 👍🏻

Don’t see why not. Make sure you have the right cc numbers on the pads and either set the launch key to midi channel 10 or change the RC-600 midi rhythm channel to whatever the launch key is on. Hope that makes sense.

Certainly. You can send out a different midi channel and in on a different channel if you wish. I don’t use OnSong myself but if OnSong can be one one midi channel and the drum pad and rhythm section can be on another midi channel, you are onto a winner. 👍🏻

@@JohnPaulMusicUK John, thank you however, I think the issue for me is that my iPad has a US cord going directly into the USB port on the RC 600, I’m not sure how I would get the USB from the drum machine into the already occupied port on the RC 600.

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Yes and no. Not officially but if you corresponded the CC number on the TempoPad’s software, you can work it out. 👍🏻

Of course you can 👍🏻 😊 But this option gives you more pads and some people don’t want a keyboard. It’s just a good alternative.

It has no internal sounds. It’s a midi controller.

@@JohnPaulMusicUK I realize that. I was having trouble connecting to the RC-600. I finally got it to work though, thanks.

Ahhh glad it’s working. 👍🏻

Yes - kzfaq.info6PMDexQZidM?feature=share

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Just make sure it’s in a CC MODE playing notes and then on channel 10 for midi and drop the octaves down till you find them. 👍🏻

Yes. You need the following: 1x USB-B to USB-A cable 1x Apple’s USB3 Camera connection adapter. 👍🏻 The RC-600 will be in ‘generic’ USB mode by default and you can use in this way as a 2in / 2Out audio interface.

@@JohnPaulMusicUK John, Thank you so much for the reply! I have the adapter and cord you mention. Unfortunately after trying for the last few days I’m not able to get it to connect with my iPhone. It’s like the iPhone doesn’t recognize it. I tried in both Generic and Vendor mode. Just to confirm you’re saying I should be in Generic mode? I know it’s asking a lot but do you think you might ever make a video stepping thru connecting the Boss RC-600 to an iPhone?

This is actually a video I was planning on doing but it looks like it’s just gone up in the list. Yes keep it in vendor mode. Are you trying to video record or live stream? What apps are you trying to use it with?

@@JohnPaulMusicUK Oh, Vendor mode you say? I have been trying but it’s in Generic mode. I will switch it to Vendor mode now! I am trying to record a video with the built in Camera app, I want to record an original song acoustic guitar+vocals and I’ve never recorded anything before.

@@JohnPaulMusicUK UPDATE: Wow, I finally got it to work, and how irritating the process was. Apparently the Boss only supports 2in-2out for the generic mode (iPhone) or 8in-8out for the vendor mode (connecting to a laptop). I was unaware of this and since I had 3inputs connected it simply doesn’t output anything at all in the generic mode. It’s kind of silly because it doesn’t even tell you that it’s not working due to having 3 input plugged in. So for the last two weeks I was trying to get it to work I had my keyboard, guitar, and a microphone all input into the Boss RC-600, all whilst completely unaware that this would make it not output anything at all. So by merely unplugging my keyboard, everything works now. This is definitely some info you ought to include in your upcoming video.

Certainly. Would be able to use the assigns and know what the CC# is. 👍🏻

I’m thinking of a second video where I setup the control knobs for volume control. 👍🏻

Is possibile connect to RC 600 with USB cable or only with midi connector?thanks

I’m 99% sure you can. 👍🏻

@@JohnPaulMusicUK Cool. Thx for the Answer. 🙂

Yes you can - look here: kzfaq.info6PMDexQZidM?feature=share

@@JohnPaulMusicUK thank you!

Have a look at this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bZh5aduXsLncpXU.htmlsi=qQvOAfLjEROpu9DK

It should. Honestly can’t remember if you can play the drums via midi on the RC-300 but if you can then yes it will. 👌

That’s great 😃

The buttons under the knobs are not usable for the performance live, many times you miss click, got to put a LOT pressure and even there in the loop urge routine... sad, the pads are Awesome, delicius I may say

​@@yago8672I've noticed this too... Even trying to tap tempo is an adventure. Using something like rhythm start is so touchy. I am not sure if I got a bad one or it's just due to design issues

Try this one: geni.us/Tempopad

@@JohnPaulMusicUK i don't know if it's because i'm in France but the link don't work. It shows me different other pads but not the Synido. But thanks.

Yeah.. sorry.

Great thing with the RC-600 is that you can make your own! 👍🏻 😊 Have a look at this - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/edyJeNygttSVdZs.html

Yes. It’s an adapter. 3.5mm to standard 5 pin midi adapter. So you just need a traditional midi cable. 👍🏻 look at the video at 2mins in. 👍🏻

@@JohnPaulMusicUK on the rc500, it’s a 5 pin?

@@JohnPaulMusicUKI bought the Syndio using your coupon, just wondering, do I still need to get a 3.5mm to 3.5mm boss midi cable to connect it to my rc500?

Ahh I see. So any stereo aux 3.5 to 3.5mm cable will do. 👍🏻

@@JohnPaulMusicUK oh do u mean that cable isn’t anything special? I always thought it was a “midi” 3.5mm cable that I had to explicitly buy