Would you recommend the em5 mkii coming from an em10 mkiii. Video features don't really concern me, more of a stills person.

Thank you.

Thanks.

Thank you!

Thank you.

I'm looking for the same combo, could you share where this was ?

How is the focus on the Em5 mark i? I seriously intend to cop it.

Good point and realise that it is confusing.

@@ForsgardPeter I wish my photo pusher didnt go bankrupt!I was about to sell my 5mkii and order the 1mkii!the deal breaker with mkiii was the battery life!everybody says that the picture count was about the same, but I´m not sure about the video recording time being the same!!!how big is the difference in recording time in Cinema 4K on the 5mkiii compared to the 1mkii?

Peter, I think your videos' production quality is fantastic, and your audio is really good. Have you considered using a teleprompter? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j8uCqJepvq7Dh2Q.html

Peter, I think your videos' production quality is fantastic, and your audio is really good. Have you considered using a teleprompter? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j8uCqJepvq7Dh2Q.html

Thanks for watching!

It is much better.

Jean-Marc Rapp I think I will do like you: will buy a E-M1 II, instead of that plastic body...

Fabio Petito By the way, I bought my EM1/II at eInfinity for a great price (new body for 900!), and it was delivered quickly in perfect shape. I found nowhere else such a bargain.

Next time I see matti, I need to check his cameras.

Yes, the much better AF is a good reason to upgrade.

Getting lenses is a good choice also. What lenses are you planning to get?

Peter Forsgård Hi, I’m looking for the wide angle rectilinear 7-14mm pro. I do a lot architecture and landscape photography.

That lens works great with those subjects.

Pen-F is a good choice. What lenses are you planning to get?

@@ForsgardPeter I already have the 17mm f1.8 and 12mm f2.0 so the choice would be between the 45mm f1.8 and the 25mm f1.8. I really like these small primes, a shame they don't all have the manual focus clutch.

I’ve presently got the Pen-F and EM-5 mk II. Very happy with both although the Pen is a surprisingly heavy unit by comparison so I tend to travel with the EM-5. I have the Mk III on order and am looking forward to the slightly lighter body. I shoot video with a dedicated video unit so, other than short clips, not too concerned there. One important thing to remember for those worried about the new plastic exterior is that it is still weather sealed and magnesium frame inside so there’s a weight reduction with no loss of strength or integrity. That’s what finally sold me on moving up.

Actually, it is more like a mini E-M1 MKII.

Peter Forsgård thanks Peter, I trust your opinion and might definitely change mine too once I will be able to handle with my hands...late November here in London I guess.. But I am afraid will wait for the titanium or silver version:-) is the E-m1 II made by plastic?

No.

Exactly, I love my sturdy Em5 Mark II! It's so classy looking! When I'm out shooting I get many compliments on it. And one question I get asked alot is, if it's a film camera? It's just so beautiful especially when I have paired up with the pancake lense...

That is the best description of this camera a E-M10 IV...spot on.

perhaps I should have said exposure metering mode, centre-weighted, spot etc. You have to delve into the menu and cannot put it on a Fn button

I would say between 1 and 2 stops, but that is something I need look a bit closer.

True, but then the camera is much bigger.

With 5mkii and 5mki for that matter, you have a choice of battery grip and two batteries for extended battery life. In that config it works well with heavy lenses. When doing street, off comes the grip and on goes the small 17f1.8. Olympus have dumbed down the 5mkiii in that regard and killed it for my needs. If they had left the grip config, I would have been tempted, but I'm also disappointed with micro USB instead of usb-c (really in 2019 nearly 20!) and for the price plastic and smaller battery are a big no no for me. The evf and rear panel should be higher resolution too. If olympus feel the need to differentiate between em1 mk2 and em5 lines, I think the dual card slots, built in grip and larger buffer depth and faster shutter for sports etc are enough. The Em1 mkiii, when it arrives, would surely trump the em1 mkii anyway, and the price difference between 5mkiii and 1mkii is so small, why does it matter to them! As is often said in the video about the 5mkii, "it isn't a worse camera because of the 5mkiii's arrival". The same could be said for the em1 mkii. I suspect, a lot of people who invested in the em5 line of cameras feel somewhat abandoned by this change of emphasis and loss of adaptability in the new version. To me, as others have said. This is an Em10 mkiv.

Looks like it is not available anymore. Very strange. I tried to look into Olympus accessories but it is not listed anymore.

Falcon Eyes F7 amzn.to/2NfwBjT. It is an RGB light, but it seems that it is not the best for skin color. I had to do more color correction than usual.

Monotone is not available in HDR-mode and some other modes.

I use Adobe Premiere Pro and yes there is a bit learning curve.

Em5 mark iii is plastic? Not metal/mqgnesium like the Em5 mark ii?

@@sadeqsegaraga8766 I bought another Em5 mark 111 for lightness and features. The battery is too small for this level of composite cameras 📸

Yes they have, it is a lot better to use.

Great to hear. E-M5 MKII is good choice.

Thanks. No, it does not it only shows an icon of a battery with small bars that indicate the amount of power.

Peter Forsgård Kiitos !

The grip weighs 120g (4,233oz).

for that you have the pen series...

At the moment no camera can be charged via USB while shooting. Sony A7 something can be used with USB-power, but not charged. There must be some kind of a technical issue taht makes it hard to do.

Peter Forsgård GoPro7 can be used with USB external power for long timelapse so it is technically possible, though it does use USB C.

Tone Edge This was possible with the Hero 6, 5 and 4 too. Even without USB-C😊 But GoPros do not have mechanical shutters and zoom. Still, there is no reason, in my mind, why this shouldn't be possible. Even if the power from powerbanks are not 100% proficiant in delivering what is needed, they are able to deliver a certain amount of power to counter the power drawn from the battery and thus therefor prolong the operational time.

What do you mean, 'with Olympus'? What alternative system do you know where you can get comparable lenses cheaper, or even at the same price? Also, the 75-300 will get you many nice shots, even if it's not quite up there with the other two…

Not same batteries

Thank you.

The AF is something that I value and would go with E-M5 Mark III. Lens depends on what you are going to photograph. A kitzoom is a good option for general photography. The 14-42mm pancake is a good choice.

Did you find how to do this?

@@balintgyori8047 No. I was expecting a return from Peter but I think he has not seen my message yet.

You are using E-M1 MKII? The top memory card slot is UHS-II, so use that if need fast saving or film 4K-video.

@@ForsgardPeter Hi Peter, I ment the new E-M5 III!

You are on the right track. No need to upgrade if happy with what you have. Wise decision.

I personally like to use PeakDesign Wrist cuff. Any strap that you feel is the right one for you. I personally do not like to use the ones that come with the camera. The logos are so visible. I do understand that manufacturer wants the name there, but it screams expensive camera. When traveling and making street photos I do not want that.

I my opinion it does.

No OLED on Olympus

Unfortunately no AC-power or battery grip.

I agree. I always found Olympus menu system to be easy. I love the super control panel.. it's my go to for everything. When I use my Cannon I tend to find it more confusing. I guess it's all relative. Just matter of preference..

Thanks.

I have not tested it, but it most likely it will.

16 and 20 Mpix is almost no difference, and if the technology (process) is not changed much, 16 Mpix will have better signal to noise ratio.

The titanium edition is nice. E-M5 Mark II is still quite capable camera.

It is the same AF as the E-M1 MKII has.

@@ForsgardPeter thank you

I'd like to add to Peter's reply that the E-M5 Mark III's AF, being the same as the E-M1 Mark II's, will be superior to that of the original E-M1 - though the latter can focus faster in C-AF than your E-M5 Mark II, and can handle lenses from the Four Thirds DSLRs better due to the PDAF (as can the E-M5 Mark III and E-M1 Mark II, and indeed the E-M1X). Do bear in mind that the E-M1 original is an older camera than your E-M5 Mark II, and despite getting a lot of upgrades via firmware, certain things do show its age, such as reduced functionality of the silent shutter feature, which it didn't originally possess (limited to 1/8 sec or faster, limited to ISO 3200 or slower with some major discolouration at the top of the frame at higher ISOs in artificial light, and a very slow 1/13 scan speed in silent shutter, leading to more banding and distortion - the E-M5 Mark II scans at about 1/25 and the E-M5 Mark III scans at 1/50 like the E-M1 Mark II). The original E-M1 has a Panasonic sensor (surprisingly, since they don't use PDAF for their own cameras) and I find it noisier than the Sony sensors in the other models, with a less pleasing colour balance though that's easy enough to deal with of course and is just my opinion.

I have not tested ho the autofocus works with Ft-lenses. It is my plan to a video about the FT-lenses, but have had a chance to get a hold of any lenses.

Neither of these cameras are meant for fast action. It also depends on what type of shots you plan to make. From OM SYSTEM the best solution would be OM-1.

I need to check my facts!

Sadly if you wait too long they stop making the EM1 mk2, but can still buy second hand

I missed the best part of the leaves, but happy to catch a few.

@@ForsgardPeter -- from seeing your videos (and Matti's) it looks like your Fall there goes pretty quickly -- so yes, you'd have to grab the opportunities when they present themselves. Aha -- photo challenge -- get good outdoor photos of the leaves actually falling! Maybe not the "in-focus" subject of the photo, but in the foreground between the camera and the subject -- but take the shots so that it is obvious that there are leaves falling, but still capture the subject of the photo well....

It is not bad, the gripis just better for my hands. I am used to holding a bit bigger camera.

Thanks. I would go with E-M5 MKII. Both the E-M10 MKII and E-M5 MKII are still quite good cameras. for travel the weather sealing is at least for me quite important. Of course the lenses need to be sealed too. For travel photography the differences are not that big.

You made a good choice. That is a great price.

Great choice with a great price.

Does the EOS R has the same features. IBIS is very good in E-M5 MKIII. You can get 2 to 3 second shutter speeds hand held and the IBIS is relly good when shooting video. The size of IBIS is not an issue. Olympus has a very long experience with IBIS.

@@ForsgardPeter Thank you for your reply. yeah I wanted to switch to Olympus mainly for the IBIS, but I do mostly still photography so an OIS is also as effective as an IBIS for me. I mostly own Panasonic and Canon glasses so right now Olympus and canon are both an option for me. Maybe I will wait a few months for a next gen em1markIII, otherwise I will switch to a canon mirrorless R, since they have similar prices. I know it may seem trivial but as an outdoor shooter, I've had many bad experiences with plastic only cameras since after a while UV's and heat destroy the plastic and Metal parts usually survive better.

@@automaticimprovements6957 I am not sure about that comment, after a while UV and heat destroy plastic, I think you may find the modern polycarbonate co-polymers are pretty awesome, and are you really going to leave you camera lying outside all day 24 7 for years in the desert!, I think not, of course I personally like the feel of the magnesium alloy. As an aside my house has an outer plastic cladding that looks like weatherboard and still looks new after 30 years!

Big mistake to change the haptics of a camera. Nikon did that with the latest D5xxx models and it ruined their reputation, never mind how good the electronics might be. The joy of ownership of a well-crafted device must not be disregarded, or it's the end... as Olympus is unfortunately now demonstrating.

@@automaticimprovements6957 In lens stabilization in plenty of situation isn't as effective as in body one. I'll take in body one any time.

It is a shame that it does not work. Hope you are satisfied with the other features?

Peter Forsgård I have not explored the camera enough yet to give a solid answer, the overall impression is good.

Great to hear.

Thethered is for professionals

Unfortunately, E-M1 MKII cannot be charged via USB. It is really hard to say how long the battery lasts. It depends so much on the way you photograph. For E-M1 MKII it is around 440-950 images per battery/charge and with E-M5 MKIII it is around 310. The higher value is not measured.

@@ForsgardPeter oh wow thats a big difference, thanks for your answer :)

M1 or M5?

Yes, E-M1 MKIII is better.

I was talking to Matti today and we might do that!

Buy the Pan-Leica 8-18 instead

The only OM-D camera from OMDS that has built in GPS is E-M1X (and the Tough-cameras). With other cameras you need to use OI.Share app.

@@ForsgardPeterthanks Peter! Does the Olympus App fir GPS on the other cameras work efficiently and reliably?? Thanks!

It does work quite well. Sometimes with abit older Android phones there might some problems.

@@ForsgardPeter thanks so much! Do you think Olympus will ultimately survive?

This can also be done with the E-M5 Mark III - thankfully it hasn't followed the vicious simplification applied to the E-M10 Mark III, which lost that facility amongst many others.

E-M5 MKII.

@@ForsgardPeter Jaja to late 🙄 Just bought the 10 mk ll. Waiting for her around friday.. Thanks any way🚶‍♂️

Do not worry, you made a good choice. If you have any questions about your new camera, please ask.

@@ForsgardPeter i won an auction i got the 10mkll Happy with it.I don't have a lens for her yet. Two years ago i bought a Russian lens vintage 50 mm and that lens came with an adapter.. Guess what? The adapter is a L39 4/3. And thats the one i'm using. Love the camera and how it feels. This one came with a grip. Thanks for been there for us. Happy holidays ☕📷 Peter

I think it is more common to have the black. Especially the E-M1 cameras. E-M10 and E-M5 it is more common to have them silver.

most of the EM1MkII 's are black. I remember the OM 4 and 40 was usually back too. The Digital e series were black too e420 E1, E3 etc

@@RichardsModellingAdventures -- yeah, I have a few OM-PC models (which was the OM-40 here in the US if I recall) and those are black -- but my OM-10, OM-20 and OMG (same as the OM-20) are all chrome/silver....

@@aengusmacnaughton1375 The OMPC (which was the US name, incidentally - it was you folks who got the odd name variants and the rest of the world had it as the OM40 - I'm in the UK and I had one from new) was always black. The OM20 (OMG in the US, which sounds more comical now than it did then due to internet abbreviations) was always silver, as was the OM30 (OMF). The OM10 was initially always silver, but was joined by the all-black OM10 Quartz which had a simple databack permanently fitted, and a very few all-black standard OM10 cameras were then made. The US also got the OM10FC (can't remember if that came in both colours!) - that one came with the manual adapter already fitted and the FC was marked on that component (I have a suspicion that it couldn't be pulled off the camera like the normal ones could, but I might be wrong as it was never sold in the UK). Weirdly, none of these double-digit OMs were hyphenated, unlike the OM-1, 2, 3 and 4 lines. Trivia: there were some US name variants for the latter ones of that line too - the US got the OM-4T which was the OM-4Ti elsewhere (though the OM-3Ti that name everywhere), and the US OM-2S Program was the OM-2 Spot/Program elsewhere. The OM-1, OM-1n, OM-2 and OM-2n all came in both chrome and all-black variants; the OM-2SP in both its names was always black; the OM-3 and OM-4 were always black; the OM-4T/Ti were initially painted champagne but later were changed to all black. I believe the OM-3Ti was always all-black, as it was introduced later than the OM-4Ti.

@@RichardsModellingAdventures Yes - according to Olympus, there are only 2000 silver E-M1 Mark II's being made as they brought it out to mark their centenary (though they don't package it differently from the standard black model). It's a nice, understated finish, a kind of bare magnesium alloy with a protective chemical coating by the look and feel of it. Quite different from the more showy and slightly divisive silver version of the original E-M1, which came out later than the original black one but wasn't limited production - though I suspect they are outnumbered by the black ones!

In my preliminary noise test, I got the difference to be 1-2 stops. But I am planning to look into this a bit more.

E-M5 MarkIII is a better video camera.

@@ForsgardPeter thanks 🙏

You can still get great images with the original E-M1, but if you can get the E-M1 MKII with 12-40mm cheaper that E-M5 MKIII go for that combo.

@@ForsgardPeter thanks Peter, I went for the e-m1 mkii combo as felt much better in the hand, especially with the 12-40 lens, as well as being cheaper (ex demo kit )

Do you need to monitor the sound on the second camera? The video quality is much better than the E-M5 MKII has.

@@ForsgardPeter The video quality is much better than the E-M5 MKII so that would/could make the E-M5 MKIII the short running time, soundless main camera. :) If I was just making photos I would consider it as a replacement.

And the mk iii feels much cheaper because it is so plasticy. For me that is a step back and the reason why i will not buy the mk iii.

@@thorstenbrand4803 do you already have hands-on practice with the mk iii?

@@carstenellwart3315 yes, preview at my Olympus-Shop

@@thorstenbrand4803 still going to buy the 1mkii early next year for the video functions!its a half step upgrade!bigger sensor but shorter battery life for a cinema 4k video camera!deal breaker!I love my 5mkii!

I would first play with the 5.3 before making a judgement call to never ever buy one.

No.

It might just be that the Panasonic GX8 is an outlier, but I could never find the functions I was looking for, after a year I sold it and bought an em5 MkII. things are so much easier to find now, and ibis works in all modes!! totally worth giving up 4k and the 20mpx sensor.

Frost Yeah IBIS is superior in Olympus... menus, eh.

The AF is usable on the new one. Especially the face priority works really nice when using AF C+TR.

Thank you.

@@ForsgardPeter i i love my em5 mk ii but i dont now if i go to the mk III

I do not think there will be a battery grip for this one.

It does, the hand ECG-5 grip has a shutter button.