Olympus E-M5 MKIII Vs E-M1 MKII - Battle
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Күн бұрынOlympus E-M5 MKIII Vs E-M1 MKII - Battle. E-M5 MKIII was launch last week. Its specs are pretty close to the ones that E-M1 MKII has. So I wanted to put these two cameras to a battle. ***Subscribe to my Weekly Newsletter: bit.ly/PetersNewsletter ***My Gear: www.ajatuksiavalokuvauksesta....
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@k_i_m_m_o 3 жыл бұрын
When you make side by side comparisons could you remove the optional grip?
@PT-re2gi 4 жыл бұрын
I hope we see Olympus continue to put out great cameras and lenses. Thanks for the video
@Rafaga777 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. Very useful...
@aililaoshi 4 жыл бұрын
Informative! As I recently purchased the E-M1 MKll, I'm pleased.
@stephenfox5133 4 жыл бұрын
aililaoshi Snap! Got mine for €950 new. Result,...
@Digger121954 4 жыл бұрын
One can never have too many cameras. I have the E-M1 Mk II but was strongly considering the M5 MkIII as a second camera, because of its compactness as a travel camera and that it was ALMOST an M1 MkII. The main turn off was the necessity to have yet another different set of batteries and charger. Now with the E-M1 MkIII about to ship AND it being ALMOST an E-M1X AND using the identical battery as the M1 MkII AND being able to use the same battery grip -- I'll have to go with the E-M1 MkIII for now. But I can still see an E-M5 in my future. Thanks for this great video and also the M1 MkIII video. And, btw, your English is waaaaay better than my Finnish! Thanks again.
@DriveLongRoad 4 жыл бұрын
When I bought my E-M1 (I) a few years ago, the former E-M5 (II) was available as an alternative. But at the end of the day I bought the E-M1 for the same reason, because of the better ergonomics of the two upper dials. This worked and acts on the E-M1 still solid and better manageable, than the construction of the E-M5. Too bad is the new E-M5 (III), which unfortunately has only the smaller battery installed, instead of using the BLN-1. A few grams more weight would have been in the end not a broken leg, if you could work longer and thus more relaxed.
@heikkiwi 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this comparison!
@allanwarmflash5165 4 жыл бұрын
thankyou as these 2 are at the top of my list this helps a lot
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
If you have any further questions, please ask.
@allanwarmflash5165 4 жыл бұрын
@@ForsgardPeter thank you
@ebreckpo6563 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Peter, for this comprehensive review regarding these 2 great Olympus camera's. I had wished they would have shared the same battery as the e-m1mk2 as a backup body. It is more reasonable as a semi pro to fetch a second hand e-m1mk2 and use it as backup camera as they share the same battery type. The new E-M5mk3 has somehow the same DNA as the M1mk2 (from a technology point of view). i am of the opinion that when you beef up the e-m5mk3 with an extra grip the price gap becomes very close to the e-m1mk2 without grip but with much better handling. I agree with you that it is a great leasure camera paired with the f/1.8 lenses with are compact and I sincerely hope Olympus will update these lenses acordingly to have some sort of weather sealing, without making them too large. Re-using the m43 Olympus system since earlier this year, I came to the conclusion that my APS-C sensor camera's have to go as the image quality, even from a venerable m43 sensor, is about the same as most APS-C camera's. Slimming down my camera systems to m43 for portability, travel,... and FF for shooting cats in a coalmine or moving subjects in low light. At first i was sceptical but the more I use Olympus camera's the more I appreciate the handling, the compactness and the good image quality. As Peter Thorpe stated since several years "it is good enough" for my needs.
@RobTrek 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, Peter. Big thumbs up for more affordable and compact weather-sealed lenses!
@tnuis 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for a great video Peter. Love them🤙 Please do make the EM5 MKii vs EM5 MKiii comparison. That would be great, CHEERS👌
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
I have already filmed it, I am editing it for Friday.
@tnuis 4 жыл бұрын
Nice, you're the best💪
@Rubiodiamante 4 жыл бұрын
Having used primarily the Canon EOS 80D, I love its beefy hand grip in vertical height. It's very comfortable to hold in hand. On contrary I also have a Lumix DMC-TZ95 as a travel zoom camera. Its hand grip is too small in vertical height. It is uncomfortable to hold in hand. Having tested the 5 Mark II, its hand grip also feels too small in vertical height. The hand grip in 1 Mark II feels perfect. I am highly interested in the 5 Mark III but I worry about the vertical height of its hand grip being too small, even with the external OEM hand grip attached. I have big hand and long fingers. What's your take on the vertical height of the 5 Mark III's hand grip with the external OEM hand grip attached? If you compare that with the 1 Mark II with its larger hand grip, would you recommend the 1 Mark II to me with large hands?
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
Most likely the E-M1 MKII would be better for some one with big hands.
@daveanderson8404 Жыл бұрын
thanks soooo much for all these comparison videos, i have a em1-2 since its release and have quite a few lenses. considering a upgrade but not sure whats the best for me. these vids help decide for sure.
@kentbergstrom3020 4 жыл бұрын
Now that you say it, I remember that the black cameras were a little bit more expensive in the 70s, I fell in love with the black Olympus OM2 when it came out on the market.
@cmalc8 8 ай бұрын
Felt the same about the OM-4ti.
@davebellamy4867 Жыл бұрын
The old silver Olympus cameras were always cheaper! I went to Jessops in 1981 to get an OM2N. They were out of stock in chromes at £179.99 and the black was in stock at something like £205 or £210 or £215 which was as much as a Canon A1! W e weren't on the phone so I didn't ringcto chexk forxatock. It was the HUGE Jessops storevin Hinckley Road Leicester. You would have loved it. I left disappointed and got an OM10 a eeek later and had money for a Sigma 80-200 zoom. I never had a new OM2N. I did have an OMTi later from the same store. I don't know why I didn't just get the chrome OM2N from the local Comet electrical store for £169.99! That's where I got the OM10. It was just up the road in my hometown!
@p.io7 4 жыл бұрын
Having most of 1.2 features packed into a small 5.3 body is the strongest argument in this battle. Adding that grip to 5.3 body diminishes this strong point.
@rogerquenault7207 4 жыл бұрын
Firstly nice video with some great pictures, I look at both the cameras side by side and they look the same size, the E-M5 MKIII is not for me as it doesn’t give anything extra so I will wait a bit longer for the E-M1 MKIII hopefully with all the E-M1X goodies handed down plus possibly something new or better like being able to use higher ISO
@mikecamdawg 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter. Great battle review as always. I'm currently considering each of these cameras as a replacement of my E-M10 MK 3. One thing that was missing from the review is how well do these cameras handle with AF subject tracking? Is there a difference between the two? Do either have usable eye or face detect (not looking for Sony level, but something that's usable)? I've heard that AF-C subject tracking has greatly improved in the 1 MK 2 since the 3.0 firmware upgrade; is it similar in the 5 MK 3? Thanks!
@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын
It is similar and usable. E-M1 MKIII has slightly better.
@peterblackthorne1262 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the size of the em-5 mkiii, I just wish that Olympus had kept the all metal body. I also agree with you regarding weather sealing some of their smaller lenses. I actually have 2 Olympus systems, the em-1 mkii with the 12-100 and 7-14 pro lenses ( I actually traded my 12-40 & 40-150 pro lenses for the 12-100 to reduce weight and bulk). When I go hiking or traveling I have the em-10 mkii with the 9-18 mm, 14-150mm, and 75-300 mm. This makes for a really light weight, small and versatile system for travel and I find myself carrying it much more than the pro system because of the weight and bulk. I would replace the em-10 mkii with the em-5 mkiii today if those lenses could also be replaced with weather sealed versions. I do enjoy your videos very much and appreciate the efforts you put into them. Thank you.
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jasduboeuf 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks was waiting for on 5 mark 3 to come out, but need to see if the price drops below the Recommended as at the moment the M1 mark 2 can be found for a fair bit less than the 5 mark 3.
@derekbarkham2314 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, great battle. Can you tell me which lenses you used on these two cameras for the IS comparison?
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
I used the 12-100mm f4 Pro.
@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. How does the M5III feel with a big lens without the extra grip?
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matti. If holding it properly like I show in the video, no problem. When carrying, it is a bit unbalanced.
@thorstenbrand4803 4 жыл бұрын
Matti, not as good as a Panasonic ;-)
@mattisulanto 4 жыл бұрын
@@thorstenbrand4803 I'm being polite and don't comment more on this one😀
@uyims56 4 жыл бұрын
You said exactly what I have been asking. Olympus should bring out version 2 of the m.zuiko primes that are weather sealed. The only reason I would get the new em5 iii is the smaller size and weather sealing but without small weather sealed lenses it defeats the whole purpose
@8thom00 4 жыл бұрын
I found a decent compromise buying the PL25mm f/1.4 II, which has been updated to offer weather sealing. Not the smallest prime, but not big either.
@ivangalea8628 4 жыл бұрын
Another great review. It’s good to see the Pro lens on the smaller E-M5 III
@PWS777 4 жыл бұрын
Question about Bluetooth. Does the 5 mark iii have it? Have you made a video on how to transfer your images from the em1 mkii to your phone? Thanks
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
E-M5 MKIII has wifi and Bluetooth. Here is a video about the OI.Share and transfering images: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jp9hl5iE0qjcZp8.html
@petegleeson1 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Peter, I look forward to the EM5 mkII compared to the mkIII as I have the mkII. I bought the 12-40 f2.8 pro lens so I have a weather sealed kit for those all too common wet days in the NW of England! I also have the 45mm 1.8 and just bought the 17mm 1.8 for those occasions when the weather might be OK and I can have that simple lightweight prime & camera. So I agree if Olympus could make the m.zuiko lens weather sealed it would be great if it didn't also lead to a big price hike and I suspect it would! Please keep doing what you are doing. Pete
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@christianhugel4719 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, what grip do you have on the MKIII? I had the chance to hold the new MKIII in my hands a couple of days ago and I must say I was really annoyed about how Olympus placed the strap ring on the right side. You cannot get a solid grip on the body because of this and I do not have large hands.
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
The grip is ECG-5.
@marcofeature 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your nice video!
@williambarwick1729 4 жыл бұрын
Peter, how do the prices compare when you include the hand grip for the EM5 Mk3, which would be required for anyone with larger hands?
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
The grip is around 160-170€/$ so it is not that cheap.
@flaviomachado5020 4 жыл бұрын
Só, at the end for 10% more, better get EM1 Mk2, not made of plastic with two card slots. I was waiting for a new camera, not a downgraded EM1.
@manoloquintoempecinado7191 4 жыл бұрын
It is not a generic plastic, it is high quality polycarbonate. In aeronautics it is also used in certain parts for its ability to absorb impacts, etc.
@craigroethler1495 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, May I ask which one is quieter? I purchased the EM 5 mark 2 for dance concert photography due to its quiet, non-electronic shutter. My EM 1 Mark 1 has a louder shutter and has proven to be distracting to both dancers and audience during the quiet moments of performances. Not so the EM 5 m2.
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
You can use the silent shutter with your E-M1 also.
@onicamihai9322 4 жыл бұрын
AF behaves the same for Micro Four lenses mounted, with adapter, on EM5 mk iii ? THX
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
I have not tested how the AF works with 4/3 lenses.
@Bonsai20111 4 жыл бұрын
Peter, will you do a review/comparison of these two cameras in video recording?
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
These are quite similar in that. I have not planned to make that video, but if you have any questions, please ask.
@starsandbarsbaby 4 жыл бұрын
are the cheaper m. Zuiko lenses compatable with the e-m1 mark ii camera? or should only the PRO lenses be used? also are there other lenses on the market fit for the e-m1 ?
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, all M.Zuiko lenses are compatable. All m4/3 lenses can be used with E-M1 MKII. Also almost any lens can be used if you have a proper adapter. Aperture and AF might not work, but everything else is ok.
@momchilminkov5722 4 жыл бұрын
Differences are so small, it doesn't matter which one. They are good cameras. All they need is a good lens and a person who knows how to work with them. The final results will be indistinguishable from one another.
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
True.
@fouzoull007 4 жыл бұрын
good Job Peter !!! Very fair Battle , I think I go with E-M5 MKII, I wear glaces so it is more convenient for me :-)
@juanpaulocabugsa771 3 жыл бұрын
Need help on what to choose between the 2. Both cameras with Olympus 12-40mm f2.8 pro are being sold here in Japan. EM1 II is being sold for $280 cheaper than EM5 III with the same lens. Is it worth the buy or should I go with EM5 III?
@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын
That is tough choice. I would most likely get the E-M1 MKII if it that much cheaper.
@tomek7855 4 жыл бұрын
Peter - as Olympus specialist - could you tell me if is possible on EM1 MK2 to change AF speed and sensitivity in video mode (as you can in photo mode)?
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
Not with E-M1 MKII, only with E-M1X.
@daveanderson8404 Жыл бұрын
i am having a issue with my em1-2 and im curious if u have ever had the issue with all your olympus cameras. is there a way to private message u about the issue? thanx again for all the great vidoes
@jshanni2066 4 жыл бұрын
The EM5iii evf is also an Oled display, which probably helps, not just the better eye relief distance.
@darkftforce 3 жыл бұрын
here in canada, both bodies are selling for exactly same price CAD$1200, which one should i get? is there a difference in software in em5m3? like eye autofocus and other things? is it better than em1m2? please suggest.
@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын
That is a tough call. Both cameras are good. I would say that these are pretty close what it comes to AF. I would choose the one that is better in my hand.
@minoyong3681 4 жыл бұрын
How come no battery grip come out , just extend hand grip with no connection at bottom, I think it will be another grip with extra battery in future coz bottom of camera still have the connection
@markanderson6639 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. I'll be buying a EM1 Mark II based on this video now that the prices of the EM1 Mark II are coming down.
@Havanai 4 жыл бұрын
Where do you get that cool-looking rectangular lens hood? That's not an Olympus part, is it?
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
It is. It is the LH-48 for the M.Zuiko 12mm f2.0 lens. amzn.to/2NTWgA8 (Amazon Affiliate link)
@lichtloper 4 жыл бұрын
03:04 the BackDial. Today I was in my local photogear supplyshop and held the e-M5mkIII in my hands for the first time. From the video I already had a hunch about your critique of the BackDial. I very much agree with your comments, Peter: the BackDial of mkIII cannot be as easily operated as the one on the mkII, as it is situated a litte 'inward' [and also seems a tad smaller]. The grip of the mkIII may be slightly more secure and comfortable than that of the mkII. [I think I will pass on the E-M5mkIII and try to get hold of a good 2nd hand E-M1 mkII-body(incl. update 3.0), with its grip better suited for a future 12-100 lens.] PeterK
@dzeng 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think Olympus will release a vertical battery grip for the EM5III just like how the EM5II? That's one thing I really liked about the mark 2 and when I saw there is no battery grip, I was pretty disappointed.
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
Not at the moment they wont, but we never know what happens in the future. I personally think that they never will.
@MrTifoso31 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Forsgård what a bad decision from Olympus, very disappointing
@stefanhermansen8975 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know if the STF-8 is compatible with the E-M5 III and if so does it support focus bracketing and stacking? (On the E-M5 II it supports bracketing but not stacking, and on the E-M1 II it supports both.)
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
I think it is. The new body has stacking.
@stefanhermansen8975 4 жыл бұрын
@@ForsgardPeter that's what I believe too, but I haven't been able to confirm it (the Olympus page for the STF-8 has no mention of the MK3, or at least it didn't when I checked a day or two ago).
@snugsonblitz 2 жыл бұрын
I bought into Micro 4/3 because of the weight factor and went with the OMD e-m10 mark III, so that's my light camera. However, I would be interested in getting a better camera for my son's sports events - since there's only a $10 difference in price between the two I am leaning towards the E-M1 MkII. Which would you choose?
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
With that price difference, E-M1 MKII.
@snugsonblitz 2 жыл бұрын
@@ForsgardPeter Yeah, I was surprised to find them so close. Really appreciate you getting back to me.
@allenschneider1847 2 жыл бұрын
How do you feel the Olympus 4/3rds cameras perform in comparison to a fugi, xs10, or xt30ii, or xe4?
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
I have not tested them side by side. I did test Fuji X100V. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gZZjiLKazL6zpY0.html
@tenzinpeljor 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, in your video descriptions you mention that you use »Dörr flexible LED light«. Could you kindly share a link to this product or the very specific name because there seem to be different types of this light. Your videos are well illuminated so I would like to use the same light. Or is there a video where you speak about light for video usage for youtube videos or life stream. BTW, thank you so much for your well informing and well made videos!
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
It is this one: amzn.to/3e29EMw (Affiliate link)
@tenzinpeljor 4 жыл бұрын
@@ForsgardPeter Thank you!
@guntherdrobisch4735 3 жыл бұрын
I own both cameras, so I would give two big ++ to the OM5 III, this camera still offers the scenic program SCN. Not every SCN function is useful, but I love the panorama function which is not available in the EM 1! The panorama for me is very important if I`m going to present a picture show! And one + for EM 5 is the bulb function on the selection wheel, so this function is easier to find.
@patrickhopkinson1851 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. I still tend to use the 5.III as a walk around camera and the 1.II as a “serious” camera with the 12-40 and 40-150 Pro lenses, even though they aren’t very different. The 1.II feels faster to shoot with though but I love the Dramatic scene on the 5.III. A big difference is that I can’t use the 1.II with polarised sunglasses.
@franciscocarneiro181 2 жыл бұрын
Oh oh; good point, it's good to know !
@robertnelson3179 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the mark 3 of em1 has updates like E-M5 I am looking at the em1 but updates will help
@davebellamy4867 Жыл бұрын
This battle is still highly relevant in October 2022!
@MarkMphonoman 4 жыл бұрын
Peter, what hand grip did you put on the new EM 5 Mark lll?
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
ECG-5, www.getolympus.com/us/en/external-grip-ecg-5.html
@MarkMphonoman 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. 👍
@mikepasatieri502 4 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to see a video IBIS and video AF side by side test.
@cmpetersen8999 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@2Old4Toys 4 жыл бұрын
How much better is the oled em5 mkiii vs em1 mkii older viewfinder
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
A bit better, it is brighter and has a bit better contrast.
@2Old4Toys 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Forsgård I compared em1mkii viewfinder with the OLED viewfinder of the em10mkii that I’ve had for a couple of years. Can hardly tell the difference! Marginal improvement if any.
@demarestk 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, what grip is that on the EM5 MkIII? I thought Olympus wasn't going to release any grips for the EM5 III
@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын
ECG-3. It is only a grip.
@demarestk 3 жыл бұрын
@@ForsgardPeter thx, good to know, that's all I need and use on my em5 mki. Actually it's a ECG-5
@SiggiJonsson 4 жыл бұрын
Does the highlight/shadows curves tool in the EM-5 III work when shooting video?
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it does. You need to adjust it before recording. It cannot be adjusted during recording.
@SiggiJonsson 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Forsgård Thanks. What about the EM-1-Mk.2? I dont´t seem to be able to get that to work on mine? I may be doing something wrong.
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
It should work the same way.
@DivisionStreetDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Peter, Olympus USA had a sale on the EM1 MKii for $899.00 and I had to pick it up for such a huge discount. Thank You for all your videos.
@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is a good deal.
@davebellamy4867 Жыл бұрын
I've seen videos where users really like the EM5 mark iii with the 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO.
@hachaboob 4 жыл бұрын
Now that the EM5 are plastic do you think Olympus are going to end the EM10 line or will they maintain a 4 model line up?
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
No I dont. E-M5 MKIII is a totally different camera than the E-M10 series. The material does not define the features. Yes I think Olympus will have 4 model line-up in OM-D cameras also in the future.
@TimmyMohawk 4 жыл бұрын
Looking to replace my E-M5 MKII with the MKIII - PHASE DETECT AF!! But you raised a very important point. I really want a weather sealed M.Zuiko prime. I don't mind if it is f1.8 as long as it is small. My only weather-proof lenses are the 12-50 which is fine, but SLOW, and the 40-150 which is amazing but also HUGE. I really want a 17 f1.8 weather sealed lens to walk around with in the rain when travelling.
@Rnder72 4 жыл бұрын
Good battle Peter. Not having handled the E-M5.3 but I have handled the E-M1.2 and I like it very much. Thanks for including the viewfinder eye relief in the battle. As a glasses wearer that is an important spec. that I look for. How would you rate the E-M1.2 viewfinder in terms of seeing corners of the screen?
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
It quite good and had not been that big of a problem, but the EVF on E-M5 MKIII is a bit better in that sense.
@peoplelikeus3684 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a solution around the headphone monitoring, ie can either of the 2.5mm or the USBC ports monitor audio and what adaptors do they need?
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
There is no solution for the E-M5 MKIII for audio monitoring. E-M1 MKII has a head phone jack.
@peoplelikeus3684 4 жыл бұрын
@@ForsgardPeter Hi Peter, thanks for the prompt response. Currently the OMD E-M1 ii and E-M5 iii so maybe its better value to E-M1 ii. Also what is the difference to photo/video image quality re TruePic 8 vs 9?
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
There is no big difference in image quality if at all.
@gernerchristensen8114 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter... Just out of curiosity can you elaborate in random order about the following questions that came up during you comparison here? - You mention the EM1MKII being kind of more ergonomic, but still give the fun to the EM5? - Not a question, but just an advice... increasing the EM1MKII height with those Arcaswis L-Plates adding + 4-5 mm EM1MKII height results in an unbelievable better ergonomic IMO over the EM1 original and not at lest the EM5. - Why is the EM5 more fun over the EM1MKII because it's new? That's a mystery to me. For me it would be more funny the camera simply is better. - What would make you choose to EM5 over the EM1? Looking forward to discuss your arguments ... :))
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
The E-M5 MKIII is more fun for me. It is my leisure camera and the E-m1 MKII is the camera that I make images that the clients want. It may sound silly, but that how I feel. I have a arca swiss plate attached to the E-M1 MKII. For leisure for the reason I wrote and for vlogging. What I mean by vlogging is walking and talking. Did this answer your questions?
@jameshuddle5111 3 жыл бұрын
Is the sensor on the Pen F as good as these or not. I have a Pen F and an M5 ll and the old M1 I have been considering the M1 ll vs M1 lll to replace the M1 all for personal retired photography. I Do think USB charging is a big deal. So the main difference To me was better Astrophotography in the M1 lll more than the two card slots even if a good thing. Now thinking about the price/value thing? And how much astro work I would do. I love the system for its size and have learned the menus. Already have 12/40mm and 40/150mm +1.4 The Weight and size allows me to carry two bodies with lenses and a small bag for misc, other lenses filters. Mostly visiting National Parks and Some street shooting Pen F with 17mm 1.8
@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын
This is a bit better than Pen-F what it comes to image quality.
@mariusm2402 4 жыл бұрын
Great video again and nice comparison. I was quite close buying the em5mk3 as successor for my em5mk2, hoping for better low light performance. Now found an offer from a serious dealer with only tiny difference between the em1mk2 and the new em5mk3 (which is currently only available as kit in olympus store Germany)... Now close buying the em1mk2.... Not replacing a camera from 2015 by one from 2016 🤔 Most probably I will keep my em5mk2 and invest further into new glass... Maybe an 8mm 1.8 This will boost my options more than a 3 year old body. 🤔 What do you think or where do you see from your perspective the bigger step for an em5mk2 user (with 7-14mm, 12-40mm, Pana 35-100 2.8, 75-300mm, 60mm 2.8 macro, 7,5mm samyang fish eye)? Focus on landscape, city and still whilst traveling.
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
Getting new glass instead of a new body is wise. I looks like you are pretty much covert. Only thing that comes to my mind is to get a small and fats wide angle? Maybe the 17mm f1.8 or the 12mm f2.0? Both are very good lenses and are small to carry during travels.
@mariusm2402 4 жыл бұрын
@@ForsgardPeter thanks for the idea. Immediately started watching your tests for those glasses 🤓
@mariusm2402 4 жыл бұрын
@@ForsgardPeterfollowed your recommendation and went for the 17mm 1.8. First impression - it's a very nice lens. Restricting myself to a prime lens is an interesting step to sharpen the view for the right perspective and try new things and angle of views. Thanks for the good recommendation.
@bsuthe Жыл бұрын
Peter, when I wanted to upgrade my E-M10 Mk I, I compared the E-M1 Mk II with the E-M5 Mk III. The specs are so similar and ergonomically they are so close if the E-M5III has the ECG-5 grip, that I went with the E-M5 because its battery is shared with my E-M10, and my E-PM2s, and my E-PL1. I would have loved either one!
@sussar 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a long time OM user since E-500 to Pen-F, actually I used to own the E-M5 i and ii, those are great cameras, two years ago I switched to Sony full frame, and now I miss the compact size of Olympus m43 camera and its beautiful color rendering, so I decided to buy the E-M5 iii, yes base on spec E-M1ii is better choice, however, the E-M5iii is significantly lighter and small, that’s what I need for casual shooting.
@juliusplaton8907 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Peter, nice comparison. I have a video idea for you. How well do speed boosters work with the new Olympus cameras with 3.0+ firmware. I'm curious to know.
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
That would be a good video. I need to get of hold of some speed boosters.
@MrPhilbautista 4 жыл бұрын
@@ForsgardPeter Try the Viltrox EF-M2. There is also a newer version (Mark 2) but basically the same except it works better with lenses that have no electrical contacts, so just get whichever is cheaper or, better yet, whichever Viltrox is willing to supply to your channel. It is also much more affordable compared to Metabones, although Metabones is the industrial leader.
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine tested the Vitrox and he found it too be not so good. But maybe I will give it try. Lets see if I can get one for testing.
@juliusplaton8907 4 жыл бұрын
@@ForsgardPeter That's unfortunate to hear. But thank you for letting us know! Maybe future speed boosters will have better auto focus compatibility.
@MuwexTech 4 жыл бұрын
This is interesting!
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@elmin2323 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I watched this I had the E-M10 M3 which I sold and couldn't decide between the e-m5 M3 or e-m1 m2! Just ordered the e-m1 got it for a bargain much cheaper then a e-m5 mk3! Feels better in the hand no grip needed and has USB c and better battery life!
@JurisB 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder where one can get em1 mk2 for bargain price? Was it new?
@MrPhilbautista 4 жыл бұрын
@@JurisB Check ebay. Many sellers have it cheaper brand new than the M-5iii which isn't even out yet. Can only preorder it
@AntonioFerreira-mf3sf 2 жыл бұрын
Most reviews of the pro olympus models forget the big difference regarding these and the amateur ones, including the Lumixes: their ability to focus older four third lenses, some of which are true gems. The reason for this is that they have phase detection focusing mode.
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right.
@hrm5546 4 жыл бұрын
E-M5 MK3+ECG-5 are still lighter than E-M1 MK2? There is no specification about ECG-5 on Olympus web site. Could you kindly weigh the ECG-5 camera grip? Anyway your review is always helpful, thank you.
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, E-M5 MKII with the ECG-5 the weight is 540g and the E-M1 MKII is 577g . Both body only and with the battery and SD-card.
@hrm5546 4 жыл бұрын
@@ForsgardPeter Thank you very much for your kindness. That information is very helpful. Because I am seriously considering buying E-M5 MK3.
@strategery202 4 жыл бұрын
So, image quality is the same, but the EM1 has a bigger battery and two card slots. All other factors covered are really subjective. I chose the EM5 for portability, but I would not use it as a main camera for professional work. For that I go with a full frame sensor. But I use the EM5 as a second camera for weddings, etc, and have gotten some really wonderful shots. It comes down to battery life and card slots versus cost.
@gerrymac5865 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Peter for this very informative review I found a online deal for the om-d 1 mkii that is cheaper to buy than the new Om-d 5 mkii, although I like the smaller size but if I can buy the omd 1 mkii @ €200 less I think you made up my mind, thank you
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
You found a great deal on the E-M1 MKII, wow!
@scohen1234 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the comparison. As a hiker, one key differentiation between the two is weight - the EM5 iii is 414 grams vs the EM1 ii is 574 grams, both including body and battery. the difference of 160grams is about six ounces, enough to get my attention. However, the grip on the EM5iii is not quite adequate for the bigger, weather proof lenses (I predominantly use the Olympus 12-40mm). So if one adds in the expense and weight of the battery grip for the EM5 iii, one comes to about the same weight. Since currently one can buy a used EM1 ii for a few hundred dollars less than a new EM5 iii, it makes little sense right now to go after the EM5 iii.
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
There is not a battery grip for E-M5 MKIII and most likely wont be.
@solitone Жыл бұрын
I also was considering E5 m3 for its light weight, since I am a backpacker. But it cannot be safetely clipped to a Peak Design Capture, because of its plastic body, and this is a major drawback to me. You may add a grip, and perhaps with a grip clipping to a Peak Design would be safe, but with that the weight and size savings would be negligible.
@ketr60 4 жыл бұрын
What drives my choice is performance of the camera with the line of 4/3 lenses. The latter make up over 50% of my current kit; I use and love them still. If the E-M5 Mk iii cannot focus Oly 4/3 lenses as successfully as the E-M1 ii, the 'simple choice' for me will always be the latter or bodies that can. Speaking for myself, critical capability for any mft camera is its ability to perform well using BOTH 4/3 & micro 4/3 lenses. This recognizes the value of a significant investment in Oly glass since at least 2009. How very relieved I have been since the arrival of the EM-M mk i, which dismissed all prior fears (and angst) over a potential loss of investment on many $$$ worth of 4/3 lenses. I am quite relieved Oly did not abandon their faithful system customers by creating 'stranded assets' of its line of 4/3 lenses. The foregoing is equally 'visionary' to all that has followed since..... Perhaps I missed something. You point out that the E-M5 mk iii specs are 'pretty close' to the E-M1 mk ii. However I did not see that E-M5 compatibility with 4/3 lenses was addressed, or how it would rated to EM 1-system bodies. The E-M5 mk iii will be an interesting contender if it matches the function of the EM-1 system cameras with 4/3. If not, then the E-M5 mk iii will be (for me) a different type of system and one in which (for reasons given) I have much less interest - Thanks as always for the video. Cheers. PS - I prefer black camera bodies.....
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
I did not test how the m4/3 lenses work with the E-M5 MKIII body. I would assume that they work the same way as they work in E-M1 MKII
@AnastasTarpanov 4 жыл бұрын
How is the new viewfinder, it's OLED, should be brighter and more contrasty. Otherwise, I will make the same choice as you, one for work the other for leisure, but I was hoping very hard for PEN-F successor with these specifications.
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
It jas a bit better brightness and contrast. Yes, I agree a Pen-F with those specs would be great.
@GeorgeStar 4 жыл бұрын
Does the E-M5 MkIII have an AA filter?
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
No it does not.
@palamj2 4 жыл бұрын
Big question is which would you buy if you bought one only. In Australia the E-M1 ii is about Australian $100 (€60) cheaper. The only reason to buy the E-m5 iii is if you really want the smaller body but even then I would take the E-m1 ii
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
If you can get the E-M1 MKII cheaper I would get that.
@AaronSmith-sx4ez 4 жыл бұрын
At 10:28 you compare the image quality. You state that the processor/sensor are the same and therefore the IQ will be the same. But the images did look slightly different. There are other factors that can affect differences in IQ and it would have been interesting to see exact side-by-side comparisons with identically composed scenes...especially OOC jpgs as opposed to raw.
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
That is true and what I found that difference is minimal. But something to maybe make a more in-depth comparising.
@hughjohns9110 4 жыл бұрын
2-3 seconds hand held might be very good (it is!) but I was using 5 seconds hand held last week with my E-M1/II, no problems at all, and I'm sure it would have done more. I shall experiment to see where the limit is (probably more to do with how long I can hold the weight than the capability of the camera).
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
5 seconds is pretty good!
@Michael-pm1tq 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't owned an Olympus camera since the OM-2 35mm film body. Now that the tech on the E-M5 III is similar to the E-M1 II, I can't wait to see what the E-M1 III will offer moving forward.
@RichardsModellingAdventures 4 жыл бұрын
when will that be out?
@Michael-pm1tq 4 жыл бұрын
@@RichardsModellingAdventures No idea, but maybe Peter knows *wink wink*
@franciscocarneiro181 2 жыл бұрын
I am an amateur, but I usually go out for two or three hours photo sessions. For now I have an EM10 mark I and one EM10 MarkII and it's ok. I had an EM1 MarkI before and sold it to try the E10 II. I realised now that it was a mistake because the M10 does not have the stacking feature. I really really like the looks of the OM10 line and OMD5 line, more than the EM series. It's clear that I will buy another Olympus body soon and I thought about those in this batle. However, I feel more tempted by the EM1 MII. The EM5 III is more good looking, but for the long term I think I prefer to live with the more sober EM1 II. One more fn button is not very important when you have nine, but it's a good thing. I avoid very big lenses but I can't avoid 75mm Olympus for example. It will be more balanced in the EM1 II. Battery life is a strong point for EM1 II. In this moment, a second hand EM1 II is much much cheaper than the EM5 III. I don't wear glasses. I will keep my EM10 mark 1 that is in a shelf, to grab when I want to put a camera in my pocket and take my bike. It still is a very good camera, and very cute. I never thought I would replace Fuji for Olympus. Three reasons : Stacking, size (even better), and the price of the lenses. Thank you for this video !
@davebellamy4867 Жыл бұрын
Choice in UK is now EM5 MKIII new with warranty 2½ (or 3 years from Hdew Cameras) or a cheaper secondhand with risk EM1 MKII no warranty or maybe 6 months from a photo dealer like MPB. Prices have dropped, unlike anything else!
@luizz_k 4 жыл бұрын
Does the plastic scratch easily?
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
No, it is very durable.
@JurisB 4 жыл бұрын
It seems to me at this point used E-M1 MKII is much better choice. Any tips on what to pay attention to when buying used E-M1 MKII?
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
When getting a used camera is a good choice. Nothing special that concerns E-M1 MKII. Just check the overall condition outside and if you can get a shutter count number somehow to check how much it has been used. The shutter can take about 200.000 shots. Getting it from a dealer might a bit more expensive, but most likely you will get a warranty.
@elmin2323 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for you videos so happy I got the em1 mk 2! Love the mode dial and more customisable buttons and big grip! Paired with the 12-40 pro lense it's awesome!
@mattchew5965 4 жыл бұрын
Direct line headphones provide instantaneous volume feedback, but bluetooth headphones could theoretically pair with the em5iii and provide a sort of volume monitoring. The decision to put in bluetooth but not a headphone port was a conscious one... why put in a 2nd rate feature (bluetooth headphones) on release and receive flak when you could make it a firmware upgrade later and be praised for it.
@krugmeup2162 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation of the evf for people who wear glasses. It’s very important to me. Did they fix this with the em1 mark 3?
@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын
E-M1 MKIII is usable with glasses. The evf is the way it is in E-M1 MKIII.
@krugmeup2162 3 жыл бұрын
@@ForsgardPeter do you mean Mark 2?
@GB-ez6ge 7 ай бұрын
2:00 Not sure about the 'history' of black & silver bodies but my OM-4T was this style. The metal, and the T in the name was for 'titanium', hardly a cheap finish. 🙂
@ForsgardPeter 7 ай бұрын
I general it was, but there were exceptions.
@birdingbilly 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Peter I love my silver (limited edition) EM1 mark II, much better than the dullard black
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
Great, I personally like the black one, but what matters is the photographs anyway.
@TonyMacina 4 жыл бұрын
@Jeremy Kirkpatrick 100th anniversary edition I believe, if you're in the UK Wex still has some by the looks of it. I was tempted but the top dials are still black so I don't think it warrants the hunting. Plus if you get the battery grip in the future that only comes in the black finish so it'd all match better in the standard colour.
@birdingbilly 4 жыл бұрын
@Jeremy Kirkpatrick It was a limited edition to mark the 100 years of Olympus, only 2000 units were made worldwide. I got mine from Park Cameras I think they are all sold now. I love mine because it reminds me of my very first camera the OM 10 from 1979. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/idKAnqmf0r-8fYE.html
@huuko4383 4 жыл бұрын
For me the new m5 mark 3 dosent make any reason to change from m1 mark 2 while reason I bought my current body was ergonomy. The bigger body fits better tom my hand than the smaller one. And I use both wheels all the time so both wheels nad some buttons must fit to my hands or I get rid from the camera. Then second version of those lightweight lenses with weather seal would be very welcome to me also...
@rhiwderinraytube 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter Small point but silver is not good for wildlife photography as it reflects sunlight. For me other important points are weight, speed and accuracy of autofocus, efficiency of selecting autofocus points, weather sealing, battery life, image quality and colour plus high ISO without noise for low light shooting. I think you are correct, the Em1 is better but the EM5 is great for travel and blogging and as a second body for the EM1 shooter !!
@bamsemh1 4 жыл бұрын
Flip able lcd is also better for different shooting angles.
@vanessabarbosa3681 4 жыл бұрын
Can you compare the E-M5 MKIII with the E-M5 MKII????
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I am just now uploading it to KZfaq.
@vanessabarbosa3681 4 жыл бұрын
@@ForsgardPeter thank you 🤗
@kent2000100 4 жыл бұрын
Is the em5 iii too small too light weight?
@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын
No, I dont think so.
@bamsemh1 4 жыл бұрын
For the look, all that comes out from the camera, is what's important for me 😊 but I'm confused about the price. Why is it so much cheaper than canon? Let's say, Canon 5dmk4 vs Olympus m1x. Just the house. 5d costs almost the double of m1x.
@ArquerO53 4 жыл бұрын
The sensor is the most expensive part of a camera and the sensor in the 5D is 4 times the area of the sensor in the Olympus camera, plus a sensor 4 times as big is not just 4 times as expensive, it could be 10 times as expensive as the yield for bigger sensors is lower. The shutter and other delicate and expensive parts are also bigger to accomodate the bigger sensor.
@dudiflug3804 3 жыл бұрын
Great video I almost buy Fujifilm X-T3 Beacous of I Wii buy Olympus!
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