Juice it or lose it - a talk by Martin Jonasson & Petri Purho

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Juice it or lose it - a talk by Martin Jonasson & Petri Purho

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@shytut 5 жыл бұрын

I watch this once a year to remind myself how important polish is

@deanvangreunen6457 2 жыл бұрын

come back, its been 2 years. "..yaaay.." - juice

@weblure 2 жыл бұрын

Oh joy, I can wait for another indie remake of a classic game that just spams a shitton of assests and effects, and then repackages it and ships it off as a pay-to-win mobile game.

@misfire8771 2 жыл бұрын

I'm doing that right now haha

@pixerpinecone 2 жыл бұрын

@@weblure Yes, along with juice you have to actually have flair to back it up or else that accursedness is what you end up with.

@Alixdkari Жыл бұрын

i don't think, historically speaking, polish is a very important language

@00SmartAss00 3 жыл бұрын

12:52 "classic Kyle Gabler trick" For those of you who didn't know: Kyle Gabler is a man responsible for "World of Goo", which, if you'd ask me: 1) is a true masterpiece 2) really proves that adding eyes to things actually works xD

@yupekosi413 3 жыл бұрын

as soon as the eyes and smile were added i was prepared to die for the little block guy

@HalkerVeil 9 жыл бұрын

I feel like I was just given super powers.

@googleboughtmee 9 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed the bottom half of their screen very much

@indikaWijesooriya 5 жыл бұрын

Go here and get the full screen : grapefrukt.com/f/games/juicy-breakout/

@haos4574 5 жыл бұрын

@@indikaWijesooriya not showing up

@indikaWijesooriya 5 жыл бұрын

@@haos4574 You have to enable flash player permission from chrome. (click the lock icon start of url bar) Also it doesnt work in mobile in flash is not supported.

@senorbill374 3 жыл бұрын

RiP flash

@EnricoUniverse 8 жыл бұрын

14:45 even the real life camera began to shake, I thought everything was going to explode while the guy in orange was enjoying himself

@activatepornforme 8 жыл бұрын

I really like those guys shorts., I can honestly understand why the camera man focussed on his legs rather than that presentation.

@Autoshotjosh 8 жыл бұрын

He must have liked his shorts too.

@hellschatt 7 жыл бұрын

I like shorts! They're comfy and easy to wear.

@quixoticduck 7 жыл бұрын

hellschatt Hey! You're not wearing shorts!

@LunarBulletDev 2 жыл бұрын

This is 10 years old? What an amazing talk! Just like wine it gets better with time!

@johanrg70 9 жыл бұрын

Great talk, fun to watch. But don't forget to actually make a fun game before adding THE JUICE.

@LucyPero 7 жыл бұрын

^ SO IMPORTANT

@funkychickenwing620 7 жыл бұрын

Breakout isn't fun without the juice. I'd say a lot games aren't fun with out juice. Unless it has something to do with movement (like a platformer) Think about it, a turn based game with two squares and a basic font for HP. When the squares attack each other, they just deduct the HP. Not very fun. Now think about that with the squares being animated characters with swords and armor. A stylish font over their heads for hp. When they attack each other there's blood, some screenshake, sprite flash.

@SufferDYT 6 жыл бұрын

But boring is universal.

@Zodiacman16 5 жыл бұрын

@@SufferDYT There are lots of people who think grinding in MMOs is super boring, but other people think it's relaxing and fun. Different strokes for different folks.

@ScbSnck 5 жыл бұрын

wdy mean. Brakeout is FUN, it's classic. And its so simple, it is easy to teach on.

@alaslipknot 10 жыл бұрын

one of the funniest and educative game talk i even seen

@MrZzm88 2 жыл бұрын

Is there a curated list for this kind of game-dev talk videos?

@risingdevelopment6635 4 жыл бұрын

Pretty cool how much simple things improve the sense of personality and art in a game, it's awesome!

@solarpm159 8 жыл бұрын

I am a DeVry University student studying Game & Simulation Programming, currently enrolled in GSP381: Graphics Programming I. This tutorial was recommended in our online class announcement. At first glance I was put off by having to sit through a 15 minute tutorial of something not of my choosing. I sat through it and never once got bored. Found it very informative and have got to give thanks and praise for uploading this. I cannot wait to play your game!

@AbyssTheory 8 жыл бұрын

+solarpm DeVry University. . .good luck getting a job, broski.

@kaldo_kaldo 8 жыл бұрын

The education will be valuable regardless. Degrees really only get you into AAA studios at the low level, doing crap work anyway. If you wanna open your own studio or work indie, then that will be more than enough.

@sagitswag1785 4 жыл бұрын

@@AbyssTheory Way to be elitist. Education only gets you in the door. Once he works some in the industry as a jr dev he will be on the same page as someone who graduated with a 4.0 from standford. Employees dont look at your university if you have work experience

@AbyssTheory 4 жыл бұрын

@@sagitswag1785Yes, obviously work experience trumps education. However, DeVry is a for-profit university that has been consistently investigated for consistently misleading their students about their job placement rates while simultaneously charging roughly double per credit hour compared to public universities. I'm far from an education elitist. There are plenty of good alternatives to traditional schooling (and predatory businesses like DeVry) such as MOOCs in combination with strong online portfolios.

@Dnobagav49 8 жыл бұрын

Excellent!!! I learned more about indie game development in fifteen minutes than from most of those game dev vlogs that last for hours!!! So glad you guys uploaded this =)

@damionmurray8244 10 жыл бұрын

I wish they gave props to Robert Penner. He was one of the first(if not the first) to break down tweening into a series of easing equations. Most tweening engines out there are based on his work.

@grapefrukt 10 жыл бұрын

He's first in our list of references on Github! Sadly, there wasn't time to mention it in the talk.

@castleblack6941 8 жыл бұрын

An handful of tits is better than bigger.

@DoubleBob 6 жыл бұрын

I wish they gave props to whoever did computer graphics and invented the laptop and the one who invented beamers and particle effects and the one who designed break out and the one, who brought us the mouse and the one who made their pants... Isn't giving props far more important than delivering information?

@ComfieDev 3 жыл бұрын

I remember watching this talk a long time ago, tbh it changed my life.

@Jimmarxd 8 жыл бұрын

The eyes thingie made me clap, all alone .. in my room .. yeah ..

@boredspaghettisquid6050 7 жыл бұрын

YEEEE-

@GameRocker 5 жыл бұрын

hahaha I did that too man

@shahabdullah4265 4 жыл бұрын

Same here :D

@asboll 9 жыл бұрын

PEGGLE is the perfect example of this

@JamesMcManusOnline 10 жыл бұрын

That's nice that your computer can run Crysis. Can it run JUICY BREAKOUT?? :D

@WebDesignSEOChannel 9 жыл бұрын

i still find myself watching this over and over. all the rules still apply 110% great job guys!

@lolaldanee2743 Жыл бұрын

one of the best talks on game development ever held

@noicenoise8718 3 жыл бұрын

Learning gamedev this 2021, tweening now is the thing and it's the one of the easiest way to improve game feel for beginners less artistic like me. This is video is timeless. Very awesome

@Lithethos 12 жыл бұрын

Strangely enough, "it lacks juice (or meat)" is used informally in different cultures denoting similar things. Being a game artist myself, I knew of the "juice", which I think saying "make a game livelier" would be a more easy to understand term, but "juice" or "meat" are, of course, somehow appropriate and understandable :) This is a wonderful, delightful, entertaining, inspirational, and a very useful talk! I did not know how quick it would be to program such stuff.

@Roxfox 10 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what made DX-Ball work so well way back in '96. All it really had was flair, but that flair was done so well it became an instant freeware hit. Another recent example of Breakout taken to an extreme, and done so very juicily, is Shatter... which I'm gonna have to go reinstall right now. Good talk, guys!

@AlSweigartDotCom 6 ай бұрын

I still recommend this talk to programmers getting into coding and game dev.

@rosse119 8 жыл бұрын

That talk was awesome!!!

@carlomontoya 3 жыл бұрын

Perfect example of 'a picture is worth a thousand words.' Wonderful demo of 'game juice.'

@musicrocks0138 11 ай бұрын

Wow, that was amazing. The best part is that it is applicable to all types of games, and not just to a certain genre.

@BrodyBaddis Жыл бұрын

Super talk. Thank you for the archives. Game Design professors writing for publications are ok, but making examples like this - for the visually geared developers - is priceless. Going to go read and watch their other references

@FerdinandJosephFernandez 12 жыл бұрын

I can see their point, but I believe there's a point where its too much already. In Bayonetta, one of my problems were, at intense fights, for brief but still important moments, I couldn't tell anymore where enemies' attacks are coming from, because the particle effects cover the screen too much. Some people don't find that a problem though.

@DoisKoh 9 жыл бұрын

"Juicing" is great but evidently this *isn't* what is missing from the industry.

@artjom5617 4 жыл бұрын

true

@ahmedsiddique9782 4 жыл бұрын

true its missing its roots

@AnshMehraa 3 жыл бұрын

What a brilliant talk

@himatako 12 жыл бұрын

Very good talk and really great and clear example of how juicing a game can make a dull game much more interesting without making any modification to the game mechanic.

@cardsofsurvivaltheisland5094 2 жыл бұрын

Wow... This video is absolutely pure gold. Thank yo so much

@juliodiaz7778 Жыл бұрын

THIS WAS AWSOME AF

@matthewwillox7338 10 ай бұрын

2023 and I still reference this talk

@compscistudio 9 жыл бұрын

So much Juice!

@smiechu47 10 жыл бұрын

That's how Call of Duty games are made

@xXDJLEE02Xx 10 жыл бұрын

your picture annoys me ;( must scroll away

@kannanblangla610 10 жыл бұрын

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@DoisKoh 9 жыл бұрын

This is how Shatter was made.

@skypenguingames_6396 7 жыл бұрын

That's how JUICY BREAKOUT was made

@idle.observer Жыл бұрын

Just a wonderful content for that short amount of time!

@MaisieSqueak 12 жыл бұрын

Great presentation guys. Some great initial inspiration for my degree this year. Truly cannot wait to start from the ground up in the industry and contribute something great.

@kombosabinho 4 жыл бұрын

How did I miss this video

@greencubegames 3 жыл бұрын

legendary video for gamedevs

@wanghaifeng7998 4 жыл бұрын

So much useful information in such a short amount of time. Thank you for this.

@rickloyd8208 4 жыл бұрын

Who came here by Will's recommendation (Masterclass)? Awesome demo and very motivational!

@am_n_n 11 жыл бұрын

It says in the video, they make the yScale and xScale of the paddle inversely and directly proportional (respectively) to the absolute difference between the paddle's x position and the mouse's x position.

@Chr0n3 3 жыл бұрын

Keep sharing this video to my artists in 2021 Great job!

@jakubsmolewski7027 7 жыл бұрын

What a stunning presentation! Great work guys!

@AlexVoxel 8 ай бұрын

This was a great presentation

@nodros1 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, I wish I watched this 8 years ago.

@HoppingFun 12 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting-great talk. I want to add eyes to everything now.

@NickShvelidze 12 жыл бұрын

The eyes thing is wonderful

@Meowzors 7 жыл бұрын

how many people in the room had a seizure at the end

@LinkEX 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'd argue that was actually _too much_ juice. It got so noisy and crowded that things got uncomfortable and disorienting. This went beyond being juicy and became more of a slushy mess, imho.

@bitmeister 10 жыл бұрын

So much awesomeness in one video!

@44r0n-9 Жыл бұрын

Gonna juice up all my future games

@riotxxx 5 жыл бұрын

This is fucking rad. Who needs a game. Just make juice.

@SkelleRok 4 жыл бұрын

Color Tweening (in-betweens) Squash and stretch Sounds and music Particles (smoke, shatter, trails, etc.) Screen shake

@JustDaZack 11 ай бұрын

This is so important. Great talk!

@d-landjs 5 жыл бұрын

Amazing effect, sounds, etc!! It´s was amazing !

@thegeekrelief 10 жыл бұрын

Great talk! Wish the camera work focused on the screen more.

@PeopleThatPlayGames 12 жыл бұрын

That was an awesome presentation! Never thought before that such simple things could matter so much!!

@TheEddiePleasant 12 жыл бұрын

We miss you Coe

@JuneTreeDraws Жыл бұрын

I screamed with joy when they made the eyes bigger

@Quicksilvir 5 жыл бұрын

Been playing Yakuza 0, the combat system in that game is all about the juice. When you use a heat attack, the visual and audio effects go up to 11.

@JKH-BDK 11 жыл бұрын

Wow... subtle effects are great, but combining them is much better, holy shit i want to pet that peddle.

@smuphix 9 жыл бұрын

I just love this talk! :) Once a while I watch it and enjoy myself.

@JohnSmithson999 11 күн бұрын

Amazing!

@joaobigfoot 10 жыл бұрын

FUCKIN EPIC! best game talk I've ever seen.

@RonanMcCabe 4 жыл бұрын

I think a lot of this can be applied to apps too. Great stuff.

@thomasmolby 12 жыл бұрын

What a triumph of an ending!

@AzuKDDK 12 жыл бұрын

I love the mouth effect :) it makes the game so much more appealing :)

@JohnhaighS Жыл бұрын

THIS IS THE ONE I:VEEEEEEN LOOKING FOR

@ChrisBraithwaite 8 жыл бұрын

i didn't mind not being able to see the top of the screen because i could see their shoes the whole time. /endsarcasm

@encryptonz 12 жыл бұрын

Totally agreed. I would definitely take out the screen flashing (hurts my head), but otherwise, really cool stuff.

@thomsip1990 10 жыл бұрын

Awesome presentation! thanks a lot for this guys.

@c.k.worrell9671 10 жыл бұрын

Really great talk. Good use of flash as a teaching platform also. Bravo!!!

@MrZzm88 2 жыл бұрын

This is epic...can't believe it's 9 years ago. Is there a curated list for this kind of game-dev talk videos?

@menglish83 12 жыл бұрын

Excellent presentation!

@ComfieDev 3 жыл бұрын

Legendary

@gardrek 12 жыл бұрын

"A juicy game feels alive and responds to everything, yo."

@Carlmdb 12 жыл бұрын

love it! Best talk I've seen in along time most are really dull and monotone.

@retsapb6319 4 жыл бұрын

this should be an obligatory watch for any game developer

@CaptainFei-r1s 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome 15 minutes spent watching this, thanks guys! Thumbs up

@simoprdev3517 7 жыл бұрын

Awsome ! I was looking for this kind of features to add

@Luis-Torres 6 жыл бұрын

This was awesome to watch!

@SizzlerWA 11 жыл бұрын

Superb presentation! Congrats.

@Archimagus 12 жыл бұрын

The game station for a while was referring to this sort of thing as "Crunch"

@AFChannelX 3 жыл бұрын

Marvelous explanation! 10/10 :) .

@ytubeanon 3 жыл бұрын

growing up playing Breakout on the Atari 800, I kinda prefer the basic version, it has a classic and refined feel... the other version is like for A.D.D. toddlers it did remind me of a Unity asset called 'Feel' which seems like it was based on this talk

@stevenogden4844 2 жыл бұрын

I was about to say it was too much juice, but then he puts eyes on the paddle!

@youtubesuresuckscock 9 жыл бұрын

Can't have too many particles? Someone never played Space Giraffe.

@invadercivic2774 4 жыл бұрын

I think I just had a transcendent experience watching them increase the size of the eyes on the paddle.

@TheArhive 12 жыл бұрын

I guess this video got *puts on sunglasses* kicked up a notch YEaaaAAAaaAHHH

@yapayzeka 4 жыл бұрын

wonder what are there guys doing now

@LarsWilms 9 жыл бұрын

i=input s=smooth output v=smoothness value s+=(i-s)/v I always use it for camera movement (and also other stuff that needs to be smooth) in game maker. Sorry if it's stupid, I'm not a programmer.

@LarsWilms 9 жыл бұрын

Oh lol just realised it's actually in the video.

@benjames2800 9 жыл бұрын

i have this set up in a script in gamemaker. what do i plug in for "s"? im assuming the script takes 2 arguments i and s. i know what to input for i, but not sure about s.

@LarsWilms 9 жыл бұрын

No it takes the arguments i and v and outputs s. v is like how much you want it to ease in and out. The higher v is the more it eases.