Jumper cables for speakers

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Paul McGowan, PS Audio

Paul McGowan, PS Audio

3 ай бұрын

Just how important sonically are those expensive after market loudspeaker jumper cables?

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@PlatypusPerspective
@PlatypusPerspective 3 ай бұрын
You may need jumper cables if you can't get your speakers started on a cold morning.
@TheBinaryWolf
@TheBinaryWolf 3 ай бұрын
Playing Van Halen's 'Jump' might help.
@velocci6666
@velocci6666 3 ай бұрын
Where can I buy them?
@Bassotronics
@Bassotronics 3 ай бұрын
@@velocci6666 Autozone
@new-kids-on-the-block
@new-kids-on-the-block 3 ай бұрын
end put it on 240v😂
@Error2username
@Error2username 3 ай бұрын
Glowplug?? 😂
@NateEll
@NateEll 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for answering my question Paul!! Nathan in Airmont, NY. After I sent you my question I took a look at the jumper plates on my speaker. Who knew- made by WBT.
@philippebertrand3820
@philippebertrand3820 3 ай бұрын
He answered one of mine and yes, this is a great moment !
@NateEll
@NateEll 3 ай бұрын
@@philippebertrand3820definitely fun to experience!
@userhwoarang
@userhwoarang 3 ай бұрын
Congratulations! I think it's great that you dare to say your open & honest opinion here.
@YuengsNwings
@YuengsNwings 3 ай бұрын
This is his honest opinion, but notice that he eased any potential concerns of the cable manufacturers that he will continue to spread misinformation on their cables.
@scottyo64
@scottyo64 3 ай бұрын
​@@YuengsNwingswow.......
@danielyork6304
@danielyork6304 3 ай бұрын
Paul, I like it because you're down to earth. I use to have a pretty good sound system and did try bi-wiring my speakers one time. I really didn't hear enough of a difference to make it worthwhile and went back to the jumpers provided by the factory which sounded fine
@brettketteringham4826
@brettketteringham4826 3 ай бұрын
In my experience jumpers absolutely make a difference ,an ex pmc employee recommended this it was a lot better afterwards
@mpi5850
@mpi5850 3 ай бұрын
Listener bias
@rudolfglaser9664
@rudolfglaser9664 3 ай бұрын
I think expensive connection cables only make sense if you 1. have mirrors behind the speakers that show the listeners the back of the speakers (albeit mirror-inverted) (here's a tip for manufacturers of such cables: also attach the brand and model labelling to such products in mirror image) 2. but have such exceptional hearing that you can't listen to music any other way for a second without such a quality upgrade.
@hifiandrew
@hifiandrew 3 ай бұрын
An audio seller actually telling you NOT to buy something? That's an honest seller. Wish my old Vandersteen 2s actually came with a jumper plate. Or real binding posts for that matter. Good old Richard loves his bananna holes, maybe a Freudian thing. I had to make my own using dual dual banana plugs and an inch of Kimber Kable.
@kongtzengchang4225
@kongtzengchang4225 3 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Using active crossover and toss those jumper is the way to go. PS audio should make DSP device with digital outs for us to use with our DAC. Since DAC is so cheap and very good we can buy 2-3 of them to make a 2- or 3 ways speaker management.
@hugobloemers4425
@hugobloemers4425 3 ай бұрын
Take a magnet to the binding posts. If it is magnetizable, the entire binding posts are holding your speakers back (and the jumper cables are at best only going to fix it partially). If it is not magnetic, you don't have an issue. That is why Paul can not hear a difference on his FR 30s. There was no issue to start with.
@air870
@air870 3 ай бұрын
Ie, magnepans
@scottyo64
@scottyo64 3 ай бұрын
​@air870 yes, silver jumpers are an excellent replacement on Magies
@hifiandrew
@hifiandrew 3 ай бұрын
GR Danny, is that you?
@RichTeer
@RichTeer 3 ай бұрын
I used to be skeptical of the difference metal plate jumpers vs cables jumpers vs bi-wiring would make, until I tried it on my Martin Logan Spires. I use Nordost Frey speaker cable in a bi-wired configuration, but tried comparing the factory supplied plates to the Nordost Norse jumper cables I had in for review for Vinylphile Magazine. I remember hearing a small, but noticeable, improvement with the Nordost jumpers compared to the metal plates, and a smaller (but still noticeable with careful listening) improvement when going from the jumpers to bi-wired configuration. Of course, we’re talking subtle differences here, and YMMV with different cables and different gear.
@mpi5850
@mpi5850 3 ай бұрын
Listener bias.
@RichTeer
@RichTeer 3 ай бұрын
@@mpi5850 What makes you say that? How could I have had listener bias when I was 1. skeptical I'd hear any difference, and 2. had no motivation to find one result over the other? I didn't care what the result was, at all.
@sammys_erLeben
@sammys_erLeben 3 ай бұрын
Love Pauls Opinions !!!
@sidesup8286
@sidesup8286 3 ай бұрын
If you think you can trust the ears of people who post on here; then don't buy quality jumpers. If you doubt that you can trust their ears, perception and opinion, then don't rule jumpers out. I honestly haven't experimented whether speaker jumpers work. But I did try replacing those metal U shaped jumpers that come with some upper end integrated amps with seperateable pre in/main out terminals on the back. Substituting a top of the line interconnect, and there was so much improvement I couldn't even believe it! On the audio forums where mis-information, "know it all" theories and dead wrong often predominate, the consensus is if you replace those horse shoe or U shaped metal things with an interconnect, that the interconnect should be of a very short length. Wrong as usual. My interconnect was no less than 9 feet long and there was so much improvement that I felt like celebrating.
@dank.6942
@dank.6942 3 ай бұрын
Jumper cables are a nice thick gauge with really grippy clamps, I figure they'd make great speaker wire.
@HansDelbruck53
@HansDelbruck53 3 ай бұрын
But you'd have to convert them from DC to AC cables.
@guennadiyf1752
@guennadiyf1752 3 ай бұрын
You always can lengthen bare speaker cable and use it for both, no need in jumpers at all, except icredible margin for jumper seller.
@petew2560
@petew2560 3 ай бұрын
Incredible margin ? More like unbelievable rip off. Super low loss special transmission cable used on cell sites are less than $25 a foot. Any jumpers more than 99 cents is a rip off
@danmarjenka6361
@danmarjenka6361 3 ай бұрын
@@petew2560 The OP was saying the same thing but saying it with class.
@pweb4941
@pweb4941 28 күн бұрын
Is it possible that exposed copper wire will oxidise and effect transmission . in this case much more cu exposed so potentially worse?
@davidhosmer1424
@davidhosmer1424 3 ай бұрын
The Audiophile Elites will say measurements "don't mean nuthin" only critical listening matters. Use a set of your best binding posts connected to a DLRO / DUCTER and measure a set of gold plated plates and various high end jumpers. I have a hard time believing any piece of high end cable and TWO connections (lugs or banana) is lower resistance / impedance than a 2" solid copper strap. This leaves only the FILTERING of the jumpers instead of the flat transfer to account for any difference. Always amazes me how they hate any kind of tone control but love that special tone shaping. Always love your videos Thanks
@peterlarkin762
@peterlarkin762 3 ай бұрын
I use cables with a special wool braid material over the insulation, woolly jumpers.
@JJ-no2ob
@JJ-no2ob 3 ай бұрын
Haha 😅
@shipsahoy1793
@shipsahoy1793 3 ай бұрын
Paul, you've got it exactly right, don't sweat it ! 👍
@benm3152
@benm3152 3 ай бұрын
I bypassed the bi wiring option on my speakers by removing the speaker terminal plate and connecting both speaker input cables to one speaker terminal pair. Sound was improved.
@sonngo4269
@sonngo4269 3 ай бұрын
Worth a try. Usually from my experience, there is an improvement going with high quality wires vs solid plates. Same way with different materials. Silver,copper, brass, bronze, and nickel sounds different. Not sure why Paul can’t hear a difference. 😊
@douglasbarnhart3102
@douglasbarnhart3102 3 ай бұрын
I think an easy way to test this (my current speakers don't have this option so I haven't tried it myself) may be to use jumpers on one side, plates on the other. See if the mix types alters imaging, shifts tonally to one side, if stereo "center" shifts. Our ears can be so sensitive, but memory is not always accurate. This is just a thought experiment, but would be fun to try, and I think Paul could very well be in a position to lead the way (sorry Paul) with this. If they don't matter, a system shouldn't change at all, but if it did, then we would know to look further into the matter. Enjoy tinkering.
@brettapplebaum1238
@brettapplebaum1238 3 ай бұрын
I use Shunyata Omega speaker cables which are quite expensive. I own their jumpers and have compared them with a very good pair of non Shunyata speaker cables in a biwire configuration. The Shunyatas are on the bass and the other brand on the tweeter/midrange. To my ears there is no comparison. The Omega jumpers are significantly better, more body, deeper bass, and just more realistic. One man's opinion.
@ThinkingBetter
@ThinkingBetter 3 ай бұрын
More meaningful improvement is to run a separate amp per each speaker driver and do the cross-over filtering actively. Since many of us are now listening to digital music only, we need an audiophile DSP + DAC box allowing cross-over filtering and individual per driver amp setups. MiniDSP makes such products but we need PS Audio to make this new category to the next level of audiophile optimization with highest resolution audio processing and high-end DAC. It’s just a matter of time and someone will lead this next gen audio architecture where you gain the best of damping factor, phase, frequency response, decay, soundstage, room optimization, age related EQ, loudness management, soft clipping, tube sound and so on…and with DSP it’s simple to bypass any unwanted processing. And yes, you can simulate tube sound and even make it sound better than actual tubes.
@azar3006
@azar3006 3 ай бұрын
Manufacturers don’t want that, crossovers are where most manufacturers separate their speakers sound quality. If everyone moved to active crossovers no one would buy the more expensive high end models !
@ThinkingBetter
@ThinkingBetter 3 ай бұрын
​@@azar3006 It's just a matter of time before the next gen audiophiles will endorse DSP based cross-over filtering for the highest grade systems, because it comes naturally with audio systems going pure digital source and active cross-over can be much better optimized than passive cross-over besides the fact that running an amp directly to a driver is giving much better damping factor.
@thepracticalaudiophile
@thepracticalaudiophile 3 ай бұрын
Can't believe home audio isn't more like car audio where activate crossovers are the norm.
@ThinkingBetter
@ThinkingBetter 3 ай бұрын
@@thepracticalaudiophile Yes, the most advanced digital audio engineering nowadays is found in cars more than homes unfortunately. But I believe younger audiophiles will be more keen on adapting DSP in their setups to get the extra step in optimizing the system. KEF LS60 is a good example of where things are heading. Convergence made our smart phones kill the calculator, MP3 players layer, gameboy, notepad, calendar, dictaphone, watch and so on. The active speaker of the future, like KEF LS60 will kill the streamer, DAC, CD player/transport, radio, preamp, power amp, interconnects and soon also your voice control device such as Alexa. HDMI will also make sense for support of video streaming and gaming, as the extra cost for a more powerful SOC will make it attractive. So you can get a complete audiophile A/V system with just speakers and display with very minimal wiring.
@user-od9iz9cv1w
@user-od9iz9cv1w 3 ай бұрын
I second that opinion. At most some could argue that all the connections should be the same metal. Such as gold plated copper. I still use cheap gold plated brass speaker connections on speakers and amps. It is at the thin edge of marginal return.
@anonimushbosh
@anonimushbosh 3 ай бұрын
I've often wondered that too so I was glad this came up. However... you shouldn't roll back on an answer like that. If you know you're right then don't modify it by adding that it's only an opinion - unless it's the kind of thing that can vary between manufacturers, in which case maybe add that too. ✌️ To anyone looking to get jumpers anyway... to minimise the cost just make em out of tiny lengths of good speaker cable & no plugs.
@NoEgg4u
@NoEgg4u 3 ай бұрын
When I am not using my jumper cables, I keep them in my trunk.
@tacofortgens3471
@tacofortgens3471 3 ай бұрын
I throw them in the bed
@HansDelbruck53
@HansDelbruck53 3 ай бұрын
I hope you're not an elephant.
@guitarlessons6090
@guitarlessons6090 3 ай бұрын
Paul’s jumper cables are next to his bed.
@stimpy1226
@stimpy1226 3 ай бұрын
Years ago I swapped out the jumpers on the back of my Maggie 3.6 R’s with Cardas wire jumpers and I can’t remember if they made any difference. The jumpers supplied by Magnapan were really cheap pieces of busbar so I wasn’t going back and kept the Cardas. There is a term called system integrity and I feel that I would be better off keeping that philosophy with my audio system.
@crimlarksSteve
@crimlarksSteve 3 ай бұрын
You’re not an idiot!
@DubHead69420
@DubHead69420 3 ай бұрын
I agree, but some people just wanna find a reason to hate others. I really think that Paul is a warm and kind man, who is nothing but good vibes. Peace from Denmark. ✌️
@InsideOfMyOwnMind
@InsideOfMyOwnMind 3 ай бұрын
@@DubHead69420 I've gotten hate for defending him but that doesn't stop me.
@K2teknik.
@K2teknik. 3 ай бұрын
@@DubHead69420 Idiot in this context is simply that somebody disagree with Paul and this person do not want to qualify his disagreement by arguing his case, and resolve to the simplified version of his disagreement with Paul by calling Paul an idiot. I think this reaction comes from Paul's statements that now and then have a lot of audiograde statements that is not based in facts but more in beliefs and Paul's own experience of reality, like in this video where he state "I got pretty good ears", come on, Paul is not a young man anymore, his hearing is at best good for an old man, and that is nothing to write home about, but Paul think his ears are good and he have the full right to think and state so, pease.
@DubHead69420
@DubHead69420 3 ай бұрын
@@InsideOfMyOwnMind, that's so messed up! But that's really nice of you! ✌️
@tacofortgens3471
@tacofortgens3471 3 ай бұрын
You know what they say about opinions are like ****
@KTZ_86
@KTZ_86 3 ай бұрын
I have a yamaha a-s3200 amp and a pair od triangle magellan quatuor speakers. Both amp and speakers have biwire binding post, and I use biwiring with 2 sets of cables. Do I hear a difference? I have no idea, this is how I set up my system from the beginning. Why? Because i like the way it looks, and I like selecting the "A+B speakers bi-wire" switch on my amp.
@editorjuno
@editorjuno 3 ай бұрын
Wow, I actually 100 percent agree with Grandpa Paul!
@Expedition18
@Expedition18 3 ай бұрын
Expert opinion👍
@mikeeygauthier2959
@mikeeygauthier2959 3 ай бұрын
Plug the positive cable to the top positive post and negative cable to the bottom negative post! And a high quality pair of jumpers make an absolute difference - just like a high quality pair of speaker cables would.
@johannkrist
@johannkrist 3 ай бұрын
When I got my Monitor Audio Gold speakers, I found the bright and harsh at the start, To the point of thinking of returning them. I swapped out the jumpers and heard a difference right away. A little later I got a pair of bi-wire cables. Now just sitting smiling listening to music.
@stimpy1226
@stimpy1226 3 ай бұрын
Too bad the manufacturer didn’t care.
@johannkrist
@johannkrist 3 ай бұрын
Well, they probably did. the supplied jumpers are of good quality. might be that bi-wire suits my amp setup better. @@stimpy1226
@JD-mm4ub
@JD-mm4ub 3 ай бұрын
Paul, if the jumper plates were really all made of gold covered copper, than I might agree with you, but most jumper plates are chrome on steel or gold on steel and yes jumpers help if that’s the case.
@TheOhamd
@TheOhamd 3 ай бұрын
👍 thank you
@larserikpettersen6658
@larserikpettersen6658 3 ай бұрын
Replacing the magnetic jumpers on my Dali speakers with good AQ speaker cable and banana plugs made a small improvement, cost was maybe 50€
@yarrdayarrdayarrda
@yarrdayarrdayarrda 3 ай бұрын
Paul, if you have all the resources available for the best sound, and you don't bother to Bi-wire your expensive speakers in your studio, then does that not speak to the point that Bi-wire capabilities on home loudspeakers is pointless?
@PlatypusPerspective
@PlatypusPerspective 3 ай бұрын
I can't say if Paul is likely to respond, but if thoughts from a retired electronics technician might count, I can say: Premium equipment should (in most aspects) be the least likely to show any change/benefit from bi-wiring the speakers. The factors that bi-wiring makes some changes to are things that a top flight system can be expected to have well in hand, e.g. very low series impedance speaker cables, rock solid amplifier load stability with low output impedance and hopefully speakers with well designed/developed and well behaved/integrated crossovers and drivers. As equipment moves down in spec towards typical home devices and on to dubious products, the probability that bi-wiring can affect behaviors that influence the sound of a system increases. In other words, someone with reasonable speakers might be able to get a small improvement at small cost with bi-wiring, but on a great system there's probably nothing much left for bi-wiring to achieve. Of course there's also the fact that bi-wiring capability is also bi-amping capability (being used to running live sound that's how I tend to view it).
@pmpgonzalez
@pmpgonzalez 3 ай бұрын
So, my experience: I have a pair of B&W 607 S2 Anniversary Edition. I had them on plates. Then I buied a bi-wired, a pair of Audioquest Rocket 33’s. It made a world of difference. For the better.
@mpi5850
@mpi5850 3 ай бұрын
Listener bias
@HansDelbruck53
@HansDelbruck53 3 ай бұрын
We always called them shorting bars rather than "jumper plates".
@mikebrookshire3464
@mikebrookshire3464 3 ай бұрын
You aren't shorting anything out. You are connecting another section in the speaker. For the life of me I don't understand why someone would want to by wire a speaker unless thay were going to use two amplifiers in a bi amp setup the speakers with two sets of terminals are if you want to by amp not by wire if you are worried that the heavy plate won't carry the current you could make or have made up a short set of interconnect wires, you notice I didn't say jumpers although I feel it would have been correct to say so. I always enjoy all the thoughtful information and comments everyone have a wonderful day and enjoy your systems🎉😊.
@HansDelbruck53
@HansDelbruck53 3 ай бұрын
@@mikebrookshire3464 It's bi-wire, not by wire.
@palrajraj6506
@palrajraj6506 3 ай бұрын
Hey paul which op amp is best for subwoofer amplifier?
@tacofortgens3471
@tacofortgens3471 3 ай бұрын
I have biwire posts on my speakers and dont have any jumper cable or plate on mine, speakers do sound fantastic...
@lexicon612
@lexicon612 3 ай бұрын
I'm going to stray from your answer a bit. When you are talking about a 30 grand pair speakers, they most definitely would not put substandard copper plates to join the 2 inputs. On the other hand if a manufacturer is designing a pair of bookshelves to a designated price point. They are probably going to skimp on these jumpers. If they are paper thin pieces of copper...I would most definitely find something better. As I have mentioned before, (covering bases) especially the bases manufacturer's may have skimped on. As an example Danny over at GR Research opened up a pair of $4000.00 Revel bookshelves to find a 25.00 crossover. If they look cheap and flimsy find something better. Like Paul Audioquest is the no brainer for obtaining good jumpers. At the level Paul plays at, no it will make no difference. Good possibility it will make a difference at the level we play at. With my EPOS Epic 2 bookshelves I went from banana's to GR Research Tube Connecters bypassing the bananas altogether. Did hear improvement but...as in most speakers built to a price point, the crossovers are the real thing holding them back, not jumper's. Looking to either upgrade the crossovers or might be time to pull the trigger on a kit from Danny. imho.
@nirodha35
@nirodha35 3 ай бұрын
This “problem” would be non-existent if loudspeaker builders would refrain of providing biwire connections UNLESS a client specifically asks for them.
@BruceCross
@BruceCross 3 ай бұрын
I'm with you.
@bobc455
@bobc455 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if you could use both
@allenboogaard5690
@allenboogaard5690 3 ай бұрын
What about bi-wiring as opposed to jumpers, either gold plated copper stirps or high quality wire jumpers?
@PlatypusPerspective
@PlatypusPerspective 3 ай бұрын
tl:dr Using better jumpers is simple and if anything changes it can be expected to be an improvement. The way bi-wiring works is more complex than most people realize, and if anything changes it might be better, but it might actually sound worse. Not a lot of people would consider the actual technical differences - from electrical theory, bi-wiring changes factors that can interact with amplifier and speaker, that an alteration of the terminal jumpers alone has no influence on. So improving jumpers does have limited potential, but if doing so achieves a desirable change (e.g. eliminating a non-linearity in the contact resistance), then eliminating that undesirable characteristic should do something to improve results regardless of any combination of amplifier, cable and speaker in use. However the quality of the terminals could also contribute to there being a fixable problem like this. Bi-wiring is a bit more complex, and alters factors (e.g. parasitic capacitive load on the amplifier, differing current paths at different frequencies and small changes to the application of amplifier damping) that vary considerably and unpredictably in whether they may or may not influence any particular combination of amplifier and speaker. That's a major reason some people try bi-wiring and notice no difference, some are sure they hear an improvement, some say it changed but wasn't better. It's also a good reason for a person to do their own testing if they want to try the potential of bi-wiring - find or borrow some reasonable cables and do comprehensive back-to back comparative listening, if it's better, then get the extra piece of cable. If not, don't bother.
@barryobrien2370
@barryobrien2370 3 ай бұрын
Hi.paul do you not think using all the same cables throught as i. Xlr speaker cable and the same quality Jumpers makes.a.diffreqnce or am I just a smuck with my hi fi dealer ? Thank you for your videos
@georgebarronjr
@georgebarronjr 3 ай бұрын
I've done the experiment. No difference to my ears. I am thankful every time I A-B test various little 'upgrades' and hear no difference. If things like jumpers made a difference I'd go insane wondering whatever high priced magical sounding gewgaw would do to elevate my listening experience. I think too many people get caught up with the idea that there are technical reasons on paper that some intervention or device could result in an improvement in sound quality without ever considering if that potential on paper translates into a difference to their ears. And even when they do hear a difference I think people who have spent a lot of money on that little gadget or gizmo will almost always subconsciously assume that the difference is an improvement whether it is or not since they like the idea of the device, the looks of the device....and of course they have to mentally justify the cost. I've played to tube game in my pre-amp. I invariably hear a difference between tubes. I never find that difference to be improvement. Just different.
@gdownz1044
@gdownz1044 3 ай бұрын
I bought a set of expensive jumpers from Amazon and they didn't clamp on correctly and would not tighten down without slipping crooked or off.. I sent them back and used a short length of 12 gauge copper speaker wire and they fit in there nice and tight now and sound fine.
@tacofortgens3471
@tacofortgens3471 3 ай бұрын
Any difference?
@gdownz1044
@gdownz1044 3 ай бұрын
@@tacofortgens3471 For me it is but I'm also using 12 gauge 4 conductor speaker wire with Have Inc. brass banana connectors and I changed out the steel lock nuts out with brass ones too. Sounds better than it did before. 👍
@BobbyBooshayRadio
@BobbyBooshayRadio 3 ай бұрын
If you can't hear much above 10k doesn't stand to reason that you wouldn't hear a difference. As for those of us who can still hear up to 15k I think we might. Would the sonic difference be large enough to warrant the replacement of the plates? Maybe
@joeythedime1838
@joeythedime1838 3 ай бұрын
The one thing I will say is that the jumper plate / cable ends should not be magnetic. You do not want ferrous metals in the signal path.
@thepracticalaudiophile
@thepracticalaudiophile 3 ай бұрын
I biwired and used jumpers with the same brand cables and never heard a difference. I put different brand cables on each speaker and can't hear any difference. I got nice WBC speaker wire because they look good.
@alex_stanley
@alex_stanley 3 ай бұрын
I think you and Chris should design an Aspen FR3000 line array as a tribute to Arnie.
@rjolly87
@rjolly87 3 ай бұрын
In talking about jumper cables, I am now wondering if a set of automotive jumper cables would actually serve as a set of effective speaker wires once the wire is liberated from the end clamps 🤔
@PlatypusPerspective
@PlatypusPerspective 3 ай бұрын
When this popped up on my feed, I initially wondered whether it might be a question about using a heavy cable like automotive jumper cables to connect speakers...
@stefpichette7742
@stefpichette7742 3 ай бұрын
What about silver jumpers? For the tweeters🤷🏼‍♂️
@Error2username
@Error2username 3 ай бұрын
Depends on the crossover, if it is one piece or separated, one piece crossovers dont benefit from bi-wire
@Rowuk2024
@Rowuk2024 3 ай бұрын
Take a magnet to the jumper plate. If it sticks - get rid of it!
@rodm1949
@rodm1949 3 ай бұрын
It only matters if the crossover has dual inputs, have seen a lot of single input crossovers with a gimmicky double plate that does nothing. I always thought it was for biAmping and not for the extra usage of wire.
@shaunrichards744
@shaunrichards744 3 ай бұрын
I bought Best speaker cable brand bi wire speaker cable costom made. There is a improvement in overall tonality.
@shipsahoy1793
@shipsahoy1793 3 ай бұрын
🤔Hey audiohead, you're talking about a few inches here !!.. 12-14 gauge zip cord should work every time, and if you hear a difference with shorting plates or bars, it's listener bias as a result of a depleted money belt.😂😂
@glengatt3941
@glengatt3941 3 ай бұрын
Omg those speakers behind him, forget b wiring,cable jumpers, things I know I will never have the pleasure to listen to!
@bobmorris4670
@bobmorris4670 Ай бұрын
I've heard that system, and unlike what I remembered when these came out in the '80s, I was underwhelmed. To be fair, the total system was still a work in progress of rehabilitation, and my ears were 40 years older. But it's great that Paul's group was giving them another lease on life.
@slyspy9819
@slyspy9819 3 ай бұрын
I think some people will by anything if they're told it will enhance the sound.
@MagicMaus29
@MagicMaus29 3 ай бұрын
Well, it's basically an external trace of the crossover board, so...
@shipsahoy1793
@shipsahoy1793 3 ай бұрын
🤔most people don't want to give you a jump because they're afraid that your "misfortune" might rub off on them!😂
@SantanKGhey1234
@SantanKGhey1234 3 ай бұрын
I don't like using jumper cables… I prefer to ask a bunch of drunk friends for help to push while I pop the clutch
@BruceCross
@BruceCross 3 ай бұрын
The connection quality can be as big a factor as the jumper quality.
@PlatypusPerspective
@PlatypusPerspective 3 ай бұрын
True, possibly the biggest factor. A flat plate which is pretty certain to not be truly flat, and even in ideal circumstances a large contact area requires high contact pressure to deliver the per-area force to ensure a good connection. Not a lot of speakers are fitted with terminals that are ideal to tighten so as to deliver that much force.
@subliminalvibes
@subliminalvibes 3 ай бұрын
There's no advantage, they probably just make them available in case you lose your own.
@hugobloemers4425
@hugobloemers4425 3 ай бұрын
They make them available so they can make some easy money.
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 3 ай бұрын
what, you mean direction controlled perfect surface copper plus plus is just a way to get your money?!
@KarelSmout
@KarelSmout 3 ай бұрын
Mine corroded so badly that I Iost highs. Made jumpers by cutting off 10 cm of speaker cable. So yes, jumper cable can make a huge difference 😅
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt 3 ай бұрын
The only thing for sure is that Paul's opinion that he has pretty good hearing is not a reliable one.
@djnorm777
@djnorm777 3 ай бұрын
Y guess the jumper don’t make a big difference for single wire but when using two set of the proper cable that is where the magic happens
@slowpawstevet3676
@slowpawstevet3676 3 ай бұрын
if you are using quality cables such as Kimber cables fitting the "same as" jumper cables is the way to go, if my old ears can hear a marked difference anyone will.
@shreddherring
@shreddherring 3 ай бұрын
Depends on your hearing, and what the plates are made of. The plates on my speakers are made of brass, and I have personally found that in any given application, brass holds your sound quality back like nothing else. You dont need anything fancy to do the test, any spare bit of cheap, scrap copper wire you have sitting about the house will be enough to try it. If you hear a difference, then you can try something a bit better
@tacofortgens3471
@tacofortgens3471 3 ай бұрын
Valid point, what is the material made of, Especially high frequencies are very sensitive to what metal the conductor is made of...
@shreddherring
@shreddherring 3 ай бұрын
@@tacofortgens3471 On a whim, I decided to dig out my brass jumper plates, and test them on my stack of neodimium magnets, and sure enough it stuck, which I assume introduces the possibility for distortion. To be fair, I tested a spare banana plug too, which is silver direct-plated over beryllium copper, and the screws inside the barrel made it stick to the magnet too. I guess with audio, there's always something else to be thinking about!
@Evil_Peter
@Evil_Peter 3 ай бұрын
That this is a controversial topic does in good part lie with the manufacturers of products like these. Particularly with their complete lack of will to prove the worth of their products. Have a cable company prove their products worth with proper testing and not only will there be no more debate, they would also massively increase their revenue as the market would open up.
@tacofortgens3471
@tacofortgens3471 3 ай бұрын
It depends on the speakers, and the speakers suplied jumper, the material it is made of. Its not a 1 size fits all..
@user-yx9xm9ue1b
@user-yx9xm9ue1b 3 ай бұрын
Speaking of comments that disappeared, I have asked the question about cryogenic treatment for cables and electronics. No one ever comments and it disappears. 😊
@Acura1NSX
@Acura1NSX 3 ай бұрын
Here's the bottom line.. if they look cool on your speakers and they improve the sound to your ears they're better, if not stay with your jumper plates.
@Davidkxf
@Davidkxf 3 ай бұрын
I noticed a difference
@finscreenname
@finscreenname 3 ай бұрын
Bi wire, no. Passive bi amping, yes.
@robh9079
@robh9079 3 ай бұрын
Try a bit of Romex first replacing potential plated steel - though also review binding post quality - magnetic is not good allegedly. There is definitely no point in fancy jumpers on cheap or magnetic posts....
@jstpsgthru
@jstpsgthru 3 ай бұрын
It's controversial, but I think you should bi-wire them. It made a difference with my Snell speakers, but It's probably very safe to say that results vary depending on the speakers, cables and power.
@sagi_tech_n_stuff
@sagi_tech_n_stuff 3 ай бұрын
NO
@jstpsgthru
@jstpsgthru 3 ай бұрын
@@sagi_tech_n_stuff SO?
@garyharper2943
@garyharper2943 3 ай бұрын
My hearing is also quite good, unless it’s my wife’s vocal frequency.
@catdeddy8427
@catdeddy8427 3 ай бұрын
According to another YT audio expert, the jumper can affect sound quality if it’s ferrous. Pure copper, brass, etc. would be best.
@stimpy1226
@stimpy1226 3 ай бұрын
It’s not April fools anymore..That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. Ferrous materials are made of iron or steel, which means magnetic. Copper and brass for example are non-ferrous.
@ulrichgorlich6292
@ulrichgorlich6292 3 ай бұрын
It looks like magnepans are the exception. Changing the metal piece they are providing with a cable does make a difference.
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt 3 ай бұрын
That's not an exception, it's the norm.
@azar3006
@azar3006 3 ай бұрын
Don’t understand the argument, do you prefer some unknown chunk of metal that might be magnetic in your signal path or small section of 100 % pure copper ? Cost is not an issue since many can be had under $10 or you can make one. You can’t hear a difference is also not a good argument for such a small price as you might have a young teenager that could surely do ! If I am buying a Ferrari I surely won’t put a Radio Shack Stereo in it even though it has nothing to do with performance !
@TheBinaryWolf
@TheBinaryWolf 3 ай бұрын
I tell an adversary to feel free in attacking my argument, but don't attack me; for when you cannot attack my argument and attack me (ad hominem), you lose all credibility.
@YuengsNwings
@YuengsNwings 3 ай бұрын
Why not make the entire speaker cable out of the same material as the plates? It's transmitting the same signal as the speaker cable, and Paul claims to be able to tell the difference between speaker cables. Are the plates so good that they can compete with speaker cables costing 5 figures? Why would a speaker manufacturer sabotage their high-end speakers? See the logical fallacy?
@edd2771
@edd2771 3 ай бұрын
Paul: I’ll just delete your comment ha ha ha ha. I get flack for talking about deleting comments hee hee hee - it cracks me up. Viewers: Keep treating us with disdain and see what happens.
@Mark-lq3sb
@Mark-lq3sb 3 ай бұрын
You go away and someone takes your place. Life goes on and so does PS Audio sales, it's that simple. You act like if there were no comments (or all negative.) PS Audio would shut down, that would be the furthest from the truth. Paul could turn off the comment section at anytime. There are other audio manufactures that produce KZfaq videos, but the comment section is turned off. Wilson Audio for one, and they still sell $329k speakers without problems.
@edd2771
@edd2771 3 ай бұрын
@@Mark-lq3sbYou are taking a very narrow view. Disdain for the customer might be betrayed in comments like the ones I mentioned, but they are a symptom of a larger mindset. And if it’s allowed to persist in any business, that business will pay a price at best, or won’t survive at worst. Sometimes a business with a sole proprietor or leader who calls all the shots needs to have its attitude called out in stark terms to jolt management into a course correction. And if you believe high end audio manufacturers are inherently long-lived and resilient enterprises, you obviously don’t know the history of the industry very well. Thank you for your well meaning, if profoundly misguided comment. I’ll proceed to forget it as quickly as possible.
@Mark-lq3sb
@Mark-lq3sb 3 ай бұрын
@@edd2771 Your head is as big as a quarter panel on a '59 Cadillac Eldorado, and if think PS Audio is going out of business because of this comment section. You are a fool! In fact, you're lucky to have this comment section open, as mentioned before this is the ONLY open comment section when it comes to "high end" audio equipment. So, keep on laughing...
@pharoahkenun999
@pharoahkenun999 3 ай бұрын
It must be annoying telling the truth then having companies phone you complaining as the truth loses them money I would keep telling truth & ignore there whining
@nagyandras8857
@nagyandras8857 3 ай бұрын
Well.. no need for ears. Just a decent mic. Then we could be presented with any evidencie of them jumper cables doing anything. Better yet. Fire up an oscope and then display that too , along with what the mic shows. 99.99 % of high priced cables and jumper cables are Just snake oil. And the topic it self is a can of worms.
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