Yep, they got the atmosphere spot on with this one I think. Glad you enjoyed it!

You’re welcome! Glad you enjoyed it.

Thanks! Good luck with your PPL :)

This aircraft handles nothing like the real life plane

Glad you enjoyed it!

Glad you enjoyed it!

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Best of luck on your flight!

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the suggestion, I’ll put it on our list of ‘to do’ for the future 😁

Thanks for the info!

Good to hear!

Thanks for the kind words! I’m glad it helped you make an informed purchase 👍

Thanks! Hope you enjoy it.

Sounds like the latest MSFS hotfix fixed that issue then. Good to hear!

Thanks! Best of luck with your flying too!

You’re welcome! Glad to hear you’re enjoying it.

Ahh yes, ‘smellovision’ in VR would be a real experience 😂

Glad you enjoyed it 😊

Yeah, gotta love the old Warrior!

Yeah that is something we’re usually cautious about in real life, also because of the risk of asymmetric flap extension. You fly Pa28s long enough though your yoke hand automatically pushes forward to compensate when you deploy flap 😂

Thank you!

Glad you enjoyed it 😊

This is a great plane to learn the ropes of flying in MSFS I think. Glad you enjoyed the review!

Ha, not sure my students would agree! 😂

Glad to hear I’m not the only one who struggled with that!

You should be fine, I’ve taught a few big chaps in Pa-28s and they always found it comfortable. Hope you enjoy it!

You'll be pleasantly surprised when you climb into the Cherokee Warrior. I'm 6'4 and I fit into the cockpit quite nicely, despite my 35" legs. 😀 It's a bit of an effort climbing over the right seat but once you settle in and move back the left seat It's very comfortable.

@@nathanwildthorn6919 Well, my first flight was yesterday (earlier got cancelled due to weather) and I was mostly fine :) only "problem" was during the initial control check was the yoke hitting my thighs rather annoyingly, if not distruptively :) The experience was incredible. Now quite what I anticipated, but definitely got the bug. Next flight is next Saturday, UK weather prohibiting :)

@@pitbullvicious2505 I do agree with the yoke/thigh issue; at that time I weighed around 290 lbs and at first flying with my knees splayed outwards and still keeping my size 15 feet on the rudder pedals was cumbersome, I managed to adapt very quickly. Enjoy!

Interesting! We had a Tomahawk with a hole in the cowling where the baffling round the engine had rubbed though it 😂

Wow, still waiting as JF states its on Microsoft why its not. Oh well

Thank you, that’s good to hear!

Yep that would be cool to see!

I’d imagine it’s because glass cockpit Pa-28s are very rare! I’ve never seen one in all the years I’ve been flying. Lucky that you’re getting to fly one for training, that must be fun 👍🏻

Thanks!

@FlyFromHome back in 1979 I got my ppl and flew Cessna 152 and 172... But the flight school also had a couple of Warrier Ii and a Piper Arrows... It was love at first sight...she was fast ..she looked like a fighter plane. If I ever buy a plane... I will strain up to own one.. 🐦

The Arrow is a great plane, can definitely recommend taking one out for a spin (not literally though)!

Yep, I think they fixed it soon after the big MSFS patch came out.

Yeah some of the textures are a little poorer than what we’re used to in FS2020 now. They do it to keep frame rates high, but I’m sure if they manage to optimise the plane further they’ll improve the textures accordingly.

Thank you!

:p

Thanks 😊

It’s good but it doesn’t beat the real thing 😂

Thanks! Which chart do you mean, the VFR one?

Thanks! Yeah these bugs were sorted out a few days after I filmed that flight. The 750 mod has loads of great functionality that is missing from the default 650 and 430 - it’s well worth a look if you want something a bit more realistic 😊

Try reinstalling? Removing mods? If that fails shoot JF an email.

Thanks! Yep, the included documentation is excellent. I’m not sure! I just installed the mod and that’s how it looked! Perhaps if you scroll through the iPad options you can get a single GPS setup? Or maybe it’s been changed since I filmed this video? 🤔

Have a look at our latest video, I explain some of what’s happed to this aircraft on there.

As someone who has spent thousands of hours squeezed into things like this, I can confirm that they’re not for people with personal space issues.

The Archer is just a slightly more powerful version of this aircraft, so that is more in line with what you will be flying I’d imagine. Good luck with your training!

@@FlyFromHome Thank you very much.

I haven’t flown this aircraft in some time but I wouldn’t be surprised if people are having issues. I believe JF are holding off on any flight model changes until at least SU10. I’ll have a fly round at the weekend and see what it’s like.

Thanks, yes if you could have another look that would be great. You mention at the beginning of your review that you are familiar with the Warrior, do you feel that JF's sim is about right as far as engine power is concerned ? Reason why I'm asking is because I am not familiar with the Warrior, however I am very familiar with the Archer (which I've been flying at the local airclub for a few decades now), so I increased the engine's power from 160 to 180hp in the engines.cfg file to mimic ther engine power of the Archer but it seems to be overpowered I think. If I bring it back to 160hp, I have about the amount of power I get in the real Archer. I may even need to lower to 150hp. Coming back to the pitch jerking issue. Ideally I was looking for an Archer but I couldn't find a good one around for MSFS. So I acquired this Warrior yesterday and I see where people are coming from. It's as if the turbulence effects that have been added with SU9 are amplified in this particular aircraft. The jerking exists in the real one (well... the Archer in my case at least), it's just the magnitude of it that's a problem.

Thanks! I have -40% set for the sensitivity of my pedals for light aircraft flying, with 60% reactivity. Seems to generate an appropriately 'heavy' feel.

Glad you enjoyed the video! My settings can be found via the following link - imgur.com/a/RMV8fyv Hopefully you can view that!

@@FlyFromHome Thanks so much!

Hi there! This is FS2020, right here so you’re in luck. You can find the plane in the in-game store or on Just Flight’s website.

@@FlyFromHome Ah thanks!

I’m not sure! Try contacting Just Flight.

Depends what kind of flying you prefer! The Arrow is faster but a little more complicated to fly. The Warrior is slower but nice and simple.

@@FlyFromHome Thanks for your answer 😊 !

@AstroCat Just to be clear, you only get a discount when buying the Arrow. If you choose the Warrior there's no discount back to the Arrow's. Just wanted to make that clear. Thanks JF.

You can mod it to change the colour and appearance but I'm not sure about instrument layout etc.

Pretty sure I just hit shift-P!

Do you mean on the TAS subscale for the airspeed indicator or the performance graph? Either way, both times I think I have it lined up correctly at about +10 degrees?

Depends on a lot of things! Usually for a small aircraft like this one with a normally aspirated (non-turbocharged) engine, you aim to be between 4 and 6 thousand feet, since that’s where the engine is most efficient. But all sorts of things like terrain, airspace obstacles and the like can dictate what altitude you fly at 😁

@@FlyFromHome - Thanks, I was referring to flat terrain under reasonable conditions. The engine efficiency is the key to the answer. Thanks again. But what is the highest altitude that is allowed in this plane?

Approach speed is 75, second notch of flaps, no winds

The method I usually teach is to keep the wings as level as possible and use the rudder to maintain the centreline on final approach. Tends to help if you’re struggling with over correcting on final. I’m not quite sure what you mean with the balance ball, but it won’t give particularly reliable indications when changing attitude, so I wouldn’t worry too much about that. Use opposite rudder to help level the wings if you’re using a steep angle of bank (45 degrees or more) otherwise just relax rudder pressure as you return to wings level 👍🏻

The real aircraft isn’t cleared for spinning, but from what I’ve heard from incidents where the aircraft has spun accidentally that sounds about right. You have to mishandle the aircraft severely to make it spin, but once it’s set in it can be very tricky to recover.

I’ve never tried X Plane, but I can say with some confidence that the MSFS version is very accurate.

@@FlyFromHome thanks for reply

I’ve not tried the XP version! I expect they’re very similar.

Used to for a little while, Jimbo still does though! I might get back to it one day if I’m lucky.

It’s not a bad choice for sure!

I’ve never encountered any information stating that leaning is required in a warrior while taxiing, although I’m happy to be proved wrong if you have a link. Most of the techniques we use are designed to teach students good practice for basic SEPs in general, not just Warriors - that said a friend of mine had a crash due to a loss of power just after takeoff in a Grumman Cheetah - which the investigators attributed to a lump of ice lodging itself into the carb after power was applied. I believe the AA-5A has the same engine as the Warrior 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@FlyFromHome the reason you lean aggressively after engine start, taxi, is so the spark plugs don't get fowled with lead residue. This happens because the fuel mixture is too rich and isn't being burned off at low power. When you go do the runup the engine one day will run rough because of this. If you aggressively lean and attempt to take off without enriching then the engine will sputter and cough, you'll remember to enrichen the mixture. Also on high altitude airports you want to learn for best power done in the runup. About carburetor ice, that other airplane you mentioned is different, and should be operated differently regardless of engine similarities. The PA28 warrior 2 is a 160hp airplane. The carburetor is in a unique location where it's warmer than on Cessna's that are notorios for ice. You should test the carburetor lever on each flight, but in that situation you were in the sim it's not actually clearing any ice, Ive flown in full IFR with these bird in just above freezing temps and never touched that carb ice lever, I do have my hand ready if I suspect ice building in the carburetor. Happens very rarely. 2cents

Yep I do realise why you lean for taxi, I’ve just never seen any manufacturer’s docs recommending it for the Warrior. It’s generally more of a practice for aircraft with larger, high power engines. I used to fly a Comanche 250, in which it was vital to lean out. It also used to ice up on the ground quite aggressively too! Regarding the carb ice, I appreciate that the Warrior is less susceptible to icing than Cessnas are, but our flying school uses a variety of different types and the techniques we teach are designed to promote good airmanship in general. You really don’t lose anything by running a short blast of carb heat before take-off following a long taxi - better to be safe than sorry in my book 😊

@@FlyFromHome The Manufacturer's docs on the old birds are almost like a Brochure, does not encompass everything specially the performance graphs which are bare bones. I have no experience on a 250 Comanche but I do on a twin Comanche which is fuel injected, not the same deal. Another point I want to bring up on why you shouldn't taxi with carb heat on is that you're now bringing unfiltered air (bypassing the air filter) now that air is close to the ground, dust, rocks, bugs can get into the engine when the PA28 was perfectly happy a second ago. If you suspect carb ice, use the lever and don't hesitate as but with the PA28 you really have to try to get carb ice in the air, on the ground its unheard of.

Carb heat usage on the ground is part of the power check procedures as per the checklist - if it was so harmful to the engine I’m sure they wouldn’t prescribe doing it when you’re sat at 2,000rpm and stationary. I’ve definitely experienced carb icing on the ground before in some aircraft and as mentioned - we’re not just teaching students to fly warriors. Last thing I’d want to do is teach a freshly minted PPL that carb icing doesn’t happen. Let’s just agree to disagree before we turn the comments into PPRUNE 😉

I agree. That said, a couple of the new Carenado planes do have very good flight models.

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