Testing RARE Backpacking Gear

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👇 GEAR FROM THE VIDEO 👇
Beta Light 30 Pack: geni.us/BetaLight30
Ombraz Sunglasses: geni.us/Ombraz
Athletic Brewing: geni.us/FreeWaveNA
Tungsten UL 1P Tent: geni.us/TungstenUL1P
Mythic G Jacket: geni.us/MythicG
Petrel Pot: geni.us/PetrelPot
Hornet II Stove: geni.us/HornetII-Stove
All-Season Sleeping Pad: geni.us/TensorAllSeason
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⭐ MY FAVORITE GEAR ⭐
Garmin InReach Mini: geni.us/InReachMini2
Decathlon Down Jacket - geni.us/Trek100DownJacketM
REI Flash 55 Pack: geni.us/Flash55
Enlightened Equipment Enigma Quilt: geni.us/enigmadown
Garmin Fenix Watch: geni.us/FenixWatch
Lanshan 1 Pro Tent: geni.us/Lanshan1Pro
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Sony ZV-E1: geni.us/Sony-ZVE1
GoPro Hero 11: geni.us/GoPro11
Insta360 One X3: geni.us/Insta-360
Rode Wireless Mic: geni.us/Rode-Wireless
Komperdell Camera Staff: geni.us/CameraStaff
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@TheAlgro144 12 күн бұрын

i feel like your pants should be in your favorite gear section

@mattjosh69 11 күн бұрын

When did you see his pants 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🤣🤣

@playnationtoday 10 күн бұрын

Give us your pants review!! They must be good since you wear them in all videos!

@mattjosh69 10 күн бұрын

@@playnationtoday in the Uk pants are underwear.🤣🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🙏🏻

@eric55406 5 күн бұрын

@@mattjosh69 Yeah well Justin goes camping in Canada in winter.

@debbilermond1553 11 күн бұрын

Ombraz sunglasses means you will never break the side pieces again or lose them off your head! Well worth the price, IMO. I love mine! The Fire Maple stove is intriguing so I will be checking it out. Thanks, Justin for the in depth reviews!

@david_onthetrail 11 күн бұрын

The Marmot Tungsten UL 1 is my solo tent, I'm 6'1" and I fit in there. No extra room but I fit and it's only 2.1lbs, easy to carry, and doesn't empty your wallet.

@adventureseeking 11 күн бұрын

Justin! You are my favorite backpacking KZfaqr. Love your energy, backpacking trips, gear reviews, and seeing Stephie out with you too!! Thanks for giving me the courage with dealing with bears on the trail. Now, I am a HOKA trail runner girl. Yours, in this video, remind me of the Mystery Machine from the Scooby-doo cartoon (same colors). I have to get the women’s version. Hike on, Justin. ~ Bev

@eitanpaster5692 8 күн бұрын

The pad strap buckle on my Enlightened Equipment Enigma recently made a 1 inch slit on my new Nemo Tensor.

@SM-qk9dy 11 күн бұрын

Great video Justin! I had the tensor all season this past weekend out on snow at -11c. Just the bathtub floor of my tent underneath it, no foam mat in between. Toasty warm! V impressed with it

@davidcooper8390 9 күн бұрын

The Nemo Tensor All-Season is a great pad. I have used it on multiple trips this year and I have felt zero cold coming up through the pad.

@BradyPatterson 12 күн бұрын

If you're going to spend money on a jacket like that, Timmermade or Nunatek are the way to go for me. All these "lightweight" jackets have way to many sew lines and so they're never as warm.

@JustinOutdoors 11 күн бұрын

I've been trying to buy something from timmermade for over a year. Haha

@EdTrails 11 күн бұрын

I managed to obtain Nordisk Stoke Jacket on sale last year, less than 200gr , top product if you are in Europe. I think no magic there, all these UL jacket having so tiny amount of insulation that unlikely to deal with colder condition. But still play a role of emergency item when you dont expect anything cold and have tiny and lightweight jacket just in case.

@hanskloss1331 10 күн бұрын

Timmermade products are awesome however plan waaaaay ahead if you want something from them 🙂

@Andy-Mesa 12 күн бұрын

I used a Petrel with a Soto Windmaster on the PCT in April, and it performed even during a 70 mph windstorm on San Jacinto. It's heavier and skinnier than I'd like, but in windy and cold conditions this is by far the best system I'm aware of. I did replace the heavy lid though with a cheap tupperware lid that weighs like 5 grams. I also bought the Mythic G and returned it almost immediately. It was leaking a lot of down and the 7D material seemed really delicate, so I decided to go with the Mythic Alpine instead, which is more durable and has a better price to warmth ratio. Also worth noting that the TILT material interferes with avalanche beacons and stuff like that.

12 күн бұрын

I also have WindMaster and I’m about to pull the trigger on Petrel. How was the fuel consumption? Does the saved fuel even out the weight penalty in your mind?

@Andy-Mesa 12 күн бұрын

No, it doesn't even out the weight penalty (as seen in GearSkeptic's videos) but it does allow you to light it up in conditions you otherwise would not be able to which is the primary appeal to me.

12 күн бұрын

@@Andy-Mesa Gotchu. Checking GearSkeptic for the vid, thanks.

@fredrilj 11 күн бұрын

The Firemaple Petrel pot + Soto Windmaster stove is a nice combo. As seen in the GearSkeptics videos it will boil faster and in more wind than others, so it is a great alternative to the more fragile ultralight alternative with Toakes pot + BRS 3000t stove. For a lighter, but more expensive alternative, I have found the Jetboil Stash pot+lid (145 grams) to be lighter than the Petrol pot+lid (162 grams).

@Andy-Mesa 11 күн бұрын

@@fredrilj Petrel lid is useless though. It sticks when you boil water, and is waaay too heavy.

@Lousysuperior 12 күн бұрын

Athletic brewing is great and I’m glad you’re sponsored by them! N/A beer is becoming a trend and I’m here for it

@PastorHan1776 12 күн бұрын

I have that Fire Maple Petrel coupled with the Polaris Stove. Fits perfectly, boils, water in one minute, good wind resistance, compact, super efficient and it was around $50 on Aliexpress. One of the best stove/pot combos out there.

@eric55406 5 күн бұрын

Justin, I have tried the OLICAMP Hard Anodized XTS Pot, 1-Litre pot for a 2 person trip. I found it to improve fuel efficiency and boils really fast when I want to crank the burner and heat quickly. You can use it with almost any stove. I am really impressed with this type of cookpot. I think the Firemaple Petrel is probably better for a solo trip if you have a 3-prong stove. There are other similar pots on the market including some larger ones that might be good for winter or large groups. I think you will like this type of pot for your winter trips especially.

@PapaBoiOutdoors 11 күн бұрын

I just picked up the new All-Season Tensor and took it out on the CDT for a section hike. I was amazed at how warm it was. I agree you can actually feel the heat from my body radiating back off the pad. I am optimistic that the new materials will be more durable than the original because mine started leaking from the welded seams after about a year and a half. Thanks for another awesome video!

@tomlovesdiy 3 күн бұрын

I tried the Nemo Hornet which has a similar roofline to the Marmot Tungsten. Really don't like the narrow peak. Feels claustrophobic. Got the Firemaple pot. Tested vs a titanium pot with my DIY alcohol burner. Firemaple boiled faster. Pretty impressive. I'll post a video about it. I've used the 4.2 Tensor pad for 3 years. Decent comfort (I'm a back sleeper) but never felt it was that warm. Might give the new pad a try. The Decathlon puffer is fine down to 30F with a couple light layers underneath. I don't hike in the snow now that I'm a senior citizen. Thanks for another good video.

@jessica.m.brooks 12 күн бұрын

Didn't know you filmed so far in advance. You keep saying spring and it's July 😂

@johnshellenberg1383 9 күн бұрын

I have the 3P version of the tent and I’m super impressed with it. It’s held up to a lot of nights and it’s been through some pretty nasty weather. For a pretty aggressively priced tent, it’s solid value.

@rodoutdoors 12 күн бұрын

I was looking into that fastpack. Looks nice with the material.

@BackcountryPilgrim 12 күн бұрын

Love running vest pack straps!

@curtelverd4008 12 күн бұрын

I wonder if you’d like the Tarptent Double Rainbow Li. It can be setup as a free standing tent when using 2 trekking poles to connect the corner across the top and bottom.

@Olan... 12 күн бұрын

Justin you can swop the lid out on the Petrel for the Toaks 700 mug lid which is lighter and my preferred choice of lid. I was a massive fan of the MSR Windmaster and the Reactor but after being 100% convinced about the Petrel i sold them both on eBay

@tbusterutube 7 күн бұрын

I have had those sunglasses for a couple of years and love them!

@TheMrJuhis 12 күн бұрын

I'm intrested in buying a wide pad for me. Usually side sleeper, and thinking between the tensor all season or exped dura 5r. Hoping the all season is great.

@HikerDoc 12 күн бұрын

11:36 Dude, is that your water filter in your tent pocket exposed to the below freezing overnight temps?!? 😮

@higler. 11 күн бұрын

he prob slept with it and just tossed it in the pocket when he woke up

@hanskloss1331 10 күн бұрын

@@higler.come on he's livin' la vida loca 😜

@playnationtoday 10 күн бұрын

I’d be curious as to your pack weight

@browsman2328 11 күн бұрын

I have the Fire Maple Petrel Pot and three stoves that fit it, the Windmaster Triflex, the Fire Maple Polaris Regulator and the Fire Maple Greentree. For me the Windmaster Triflex is the most fiddly of the three to fit on the Petrel, the detachable pot stand on the Windmaster renders the stove useless if you lose them and fuel economy is average possibly from slight oxygen starvation from a burner that wasn’t designed to be jammed up inside heat transfer fins. The Polaris Regulator fits and works fine but doesn’t have an igniter and the Greentree has a great igniter but doesn’t have a regulator but works fine in moderate weather and only costs $20. I find myself mostly using the Greentree stove because I usually hike in moderate conditions. If it’s blowing a hoolie I take the MSR Windburner which is impervious to any wind short of a hurricane but is heavy. No pot /stove combination is perfect for all conditions. Just my 2 cents.

@NZComfort Күн бұрын

Thank you for the video, I really enjoyed it. Congrats on the little one by the way! Don’t worry buddy roe, baby girls are good for Daddy’s. 👍🏼

@GarryCollins-ec8yo 12 күн бұрын

I used the FireMaple pot for the first time on a quick over night last night. Instantly sold on it. I think the fuel savings will on a long trip will make up for the heavier pot. I used it with the MSR Pocket Rocket deluxe.

@dewdrop6400 12 күн бұрын

Nice to see your review of the Tungsten UL 1P. It is my go to tent when not hammock camping. I do have a question about how you rate sleeping pads for warmth and comfort. Are they fully filled with air to test warmth or only partially filled to test comfort? Thanks.

@JustinOutdoors 12 күн бұрын

When testing warmth, they are always fully filled. When testing comfort, I adjust to try and maximize comfort.

@Borkyswildcampingadventures 7 күн бұрын

Great camping gear , youve got a awsome area for wild camping😁

@euphonek 10 күн бұрын

I paired that Fire Maple pot with my Soto WindMaster (added the 3 arm flex support) and it is clutch! 👍

@kmichaelp4508 12 күн бұрын

Congratulations coming in august 😊

@EdTrails 7 күн бұрын

Just received the Petler pod to have a look . The plastic lid stucks on the pod when it gets hot, so I replaced it with titanium lid from another pod. Re how fast it works, thats all for the price of consuming insane amount of gas , these stoves are quite powerfull and diameter of the pot is tiny, so its very inefficient way to boil the water, and yea, no one cares about couple of minutes outdoor except its a race. Everybody care about fuel consumption. I did my own tests, with pocket rocket2 and brs3000, and when you set the output to eco mode, the consumption is exactly the same in room env ie 5gr for 500ml (sorry Im in Europe) comparing to msr titanium pod without HE. And lastly its seems designed especially for they own stoves and grooves below are offset indeed, however my pocket rocket 2 fits ok and brs300 also fits but some wiggling is required. Some people bend the legs a bit to make it more comfortable. also I removed the heavy handle and used neoprene sleeve instead, I do this still think, that HE make sense in real world scenarios.

@jefflibbey 8 күн бұрын

Hey Justin. Do you have any updates on your secret pot lid? Some of us are waiting for news!

@hanskloss1331 10 күн бұрын

Challenge Sailcloth (your BD backpack) is also used by Etowah Tarps out of Anniston Alabama I have 2 and absolutely love them the fabric imo is better at shedding water than dynema and way more durable

@timmo971 11 күн бұрын

@12:15 you can feel the heat reflected back to you which is always a cool feeling. Yeah Justin is a dad now.

@EdTrails 11 күн бұрын

I have 1L pot from firemaple, I cut it to 0.6 and modified the handle same way as g3 pot is, and it weights 150gr now, also brs3000 fits perfectly inside, so total weight pan, lid, handle and stove 175gr :)

@nebc_yukonyeti 8 күн бұрын

Looking forward to the R value results on the Nemo sleeping pad. Being in the Northern BC Rockies Thermarest is usually my all season go to. But would also appreciate a warm option that doesn’t sound like sleeping on a bag of chips!

@syindrome 12 күн бұрын

15:40 At 66" wide, the Tungsten UL 1p us actually *wider* than the xmid 1p pro, at 63"...

@JustMikeH 12 күн бұрын

While I enjoy Athletic NA Beer, I absolutely love Self Care NA beer. Of all the NA beer I have tried, it's by far the closest to the taste of beer - at least that is my obversation. Would be curious what you think. Either way, it's nice to have something that satisfies the itch for beer but does not negatively affect muscle recovery from hiking/biking all day nor negatively affect my sleep..

@urbanAngler_Bigfoot 11 күн бұрын

The running test might not have been such a good idea, if there had been a Mamma Bear in the vicinity!😂

@ericwilson4553 11 күн бұрын

Brs fins can be bent slightly to fit in the pot although that stove is pretty light.

@glenby2u 10 күн бұрын

just saying you cant fit most 3 arm stoves to the pot. they either have an angle to the arms (brs3000 ) or they have hinge to allow holding on normal pots.. the gap is too small. the pot works great - if you use an ethanol mix, a trangia is great. gas is great too. the burner is quite expensive in comparison to the pot. buy the combo and save money.

@WalkthePlanets 8 күн бұрын

they have to make a less expensive version of the sunglasses, great idea though

@brentperron6914 8 күн бұрын

I know these are more 'rare' products but these prices just seem to be outrageous for most of these items 🥲Except the stove, thats great haha

@skidrx 11 күн бұрын

I sat on the fire maple for too long. Saw a video from backcountry exposure and figured I'd give it a try. Hands down, outperformed my toaks, vargo, and jet boil this past week

@Casual_BackPacking 8 күн бұрын

Jupiter knows what's up

@Rydoge7 12 күн бұрын

Really hate that between normal and RX the price on the ombras go from $150 to $500+ Sucks needing to wear glasses

@H4K4LA 12 күн бұрын

39dollarglasses might be for you then. Hail, fellow optically challenged outdoor enthusiast!

@checkerspotfarm3927 11 күн бұрын

Ooooh, I've been eyeballing both of those packs. Since you have tried both, can you tell me how low the second chest strap can go? My holy grail is to be able to have the top one about armpit level and the bottom one right at my underbust, so bottom of the pecs for a dude? I actually added a third strap to my current bag just to have this positioning, but I'd love to find one that already does. Stef likely would appreciate this too!

@wadly312 11 күн бұрын

I think temp rating on a down jacket is definitely all in the rest of your clothing as well. If you had changed into dry merino base layers and had a mid layer as well plus the jacket I think it would perform perfectly it’s specs - the clothing I saw you in in the video didn’t look like enough for the conditions once it got dark and cold to me personally!

@fyiguitars 12 күн бұрын

I use a Jet boil Mighty Mo with the Fire Maple…..works well

@VinceFowler 12 күн бұрын

Great reviews, Justin. +1 for the NEMO Tensor All Season - the updates have made its my favourite mattress these days. Like you, I deflate it a bit. I have no love for the Fire Maple product - two shite stoves in a row. I'll stick with the Jetboil MicroMo, MSR Dragon Fly, and Soto Windmaster.

@SanJava 7 күн бұрын

I know what you mean. I have this same pot and the spot welding and metal finishing is not great. Some of the fins in the heat exchanger are bent. I contacted them about it but they just brushed me off. No more FireMaple.

@user-qg2zd1nv1r 11 күн бұрын

nemo 4.2 was cold for female on 0Cdegree nights has cold spots. Exped ultra 5R 4.8 performs much better

@francoisfournier2903 12 күн бұрын

Great video as usual. Could you try and review gear from Taiga Works (Canadian brand that offers great clothes and sleeping bags). I have no affiliation with. Just curious to get another point of view.

@jasonish 11 күн бұрын

I’m looking at the Tungsten UL2 as a solo or occasionally with my wife tent. Does it still hold up to the competition? But that 1p does look bigger than the old Spark 1p I currently have.

@ruisearts 11 күн бұрын

That’s definitely a well used pillow 7:05

@bcamping1 9 күн бұрын

You can get lighter airmat with heavier materials if you thin out the airtight membrane. Thin doesn't nessesarily mean worse. The layer nobody talks about, just look at the deniers, duh.

@JustinOutdoors 9 күн бұрын

Great point. A large portion of the weight in the air-proof laminate. They haven't mentioned a new laminate technology though.

@JoshM11 10 күн бұрын

Great Video Justin! But What happened to Bushka's Kitchen?? They had the best meals.

@nalonabrato8900 7 күн бұрын

I believe he said they went out of business in a video a while ago.

@billb5732 10 күн бұрын

That jacket doesn't look adequate for static comfort at -6C/21F. That temperature is cold enough that you need a pretty warm jacket for just sitting around. Four ounces of fill isn't much. I'd try double that. I know you know this, so not sure why you thought the jacket would be enough? You weren't going by just the price, were you? ;)

@woodchip2782 11 күн бұрын

I don’t like gas stoves for the noise and the scarcity of fuel. I prefer my Trangia kit. It’s silent and I can find alcohol in any gas station.

@higler. 11 күн бұрын

How would you compare the BD Beta Light 30 to the Mountainsmith Zerk 40? I remember you were a big fan of the Zerk 40 awhile back.

@sheltermonkey6065 11 күн бұрын

You tested the 2-person version of the Marmot Tungsten Ultralight tent five years ago. If there has been an update to the line since then, it's been extremely minor.

@donaldrice1867 11 күн бұрын

I was looking at that exact stove/pot combo, but I read a lot of reviews about the stove spraying fuel at the connection while screwing it on. Did you have this issue?

@JustinOutdoors 11 күн бұрын

I did not

@needtokeepwalking 8 күн бұрын

Question from an Australian who enjoys your channel. Why don't I ever see campfires in yours or others from your geographic. Sorry but just really interested.

@Sleepy7666 6 күн бұрын

Burn bans usually. The soil is thin and unless they have controlled burn plans usually every 5 years the amount of brush is insanely high because of the misguided theory of stopping *all* wildfires.

@jeffreycarman2185 8 күн бұрын

Nice!

@bidufree 7 күн бұрын

@JustinOutdoors, what trekking poles are you using? They look really long.

@elizab1028 10 күн бұрын

Bummer about Bushka's- we like some of there food a lot...especially the mashed red potatoes!

@saskhiker3935 10 күн бұрын

200USD for a sleep pad. Wow. I was in an outdoor shop the other day and noticed the prices have gone up quite a bit. Saw a camp chair for 250. That is a lot! Do they make a 2 man in this tent. I am in the market for a 2 man backpacking free standing tent.

@larry_yang 9 күн бұрын

There's also 2 and 3 person version of the Tungsten Ultralight. Marmot's website has them on discount right now. Was thinking of getting the 3-person for a more spacious experience for two people.

@H4K4LA 12 күн бұрын

Swapping to ombraz from pit vipers will make you 1mph slower at least. Aerodynamic losses and all that.

@truepaulesko 12 күн бұрын

Justin, tou should compare the rab jacket with the montbell plasma. I bet the montbell is better

@Andy-Mesa 12 күн бұрын

They are very different jackets. The Plasma is not meant for the same conditions, however I think the 1000 fill and 7D material is more conducive to the conditions the Plasma is meant for, so I would agree the Plasma is the better jacket for its use case.

@truepaulesko 12 күн бұрын

@@Andy-Mesa I'm not sure they are so different. Both have 7d fabrics and both have 1000 FP down. I have not used the rab, but I have tried it on and my sensation compared to the plasma is that is not so lofty and not so warm compared to the plasma. Even having more down, but it looked to me not so good. In fact, in Europe it's easy to find that rab jacket for -40 or -30% discount, and it's been like that for months (since before Christmas) my Spydrr instinct tells me there is something off with that jacket. Old rab mythic with 1000 fo down that a friend of mine owns looks much better... Loftier, more like my plasma. These are just some random thoughts, I think it's an interesting jacket but as much as I love rab equipment, I have a bad feeling about this one.

@Andy-Mesa 12 күн бұрын

@@truepaulesko The materials aren't different, but the fill weights of each mean they're meant for different conditions. If you found the Plasma warmer then yeah, that's another knock for the Rab.

@charliekendall4288 11 күн бұрын

Bear Bells?

@nickolas9874 11 күн бұрын

Should check out an Australian brand called MONT!

@VangelisMatosMedina 11 күн бұрын

Summer down jacket? 😅

@Hikesoup 12 күн бұрын

If it’s good for Jupiter it’s good

@JoshSweet 11 күн бұрын

Sounds like you really need to do some therapy for PTSD and anxiety. There are some great options, but you might check out EFT, or tapping based therapy for fears and trauma….

@emynac 7 күн бұрын

What pants are you wearing sir?

@v45ud3v4 12 күн бұрын

lol @ million miles convertion

@generallost 11 күн бұрын

Warmest jacket and most expensive

@TexasRoast 6 күн бұрын

Bruh why is everyone doing reviews on these firemaple stoves all of a sudden?

@SigfridSWE 10 күн бұрын

Black dimond did a catastrofic launch of that backpack. Gaslighting customers and marketing it like something new and revolutionairy and that they invented all of it 😂 it came across like they thaught they invented the weel or something 😅 was crazy to see. But the worst thing was how they handled the critic. So lost most of the respect Ive had for the company... Personnaly I would go with a Nashville pack if you want a pack like that.

@jakeva9802 12 күн бұрын

Can make your own ombraz for like $30. $160 is ridiculous

@barbara777 11 күн бұрын

my question to, i really want the convenience of the ombraz but I am fully unwilling to spend that kind of money

@rungavagairun 12 күн бұрын

No hip belt for a pack like that is a deal breaker. For a daypack, sure. But I want anything that approaches 20lbs to rest on my hips, not on my shoulders.

@richardherzog295 12 күн бұрын

It has a hipbelt, its just removable, and he explained that in the video

@rungavagairun 11 күн бұрын

@@richardherzog295 missed that. Thanks. That's what happens when I half listen while I'm working.

@damirshafiev6929 9 күн бұрын

What?! 1 million miles a year, is bullshit!

@glueckschpilz 12 күн бұрын

These sunglasses are way too expensive, but a nice myog project for sure

@Andy-Mesa 12 күн бұрын

They handed these out like candy at PCT Days last year and I didn't grab a pair even for free. I don't think they're very comfortable, and most importantly for me I'd need a prescription which they charge like $500 for.

@rockytopwrangler2069 12 күн бұрын

.. Sunglasses strap system looks like a good idea ... Pack needs padding on all straps ,, needs hip belt to equalize weight from shoulders ... Needs load adjusters ,, pack is badly hanging on lower back ......put a pouch on hip belt front for a water bottle or put water bottle in shoulder pouch and bear spray in belt pouch or holster designed for it , for ready deployment ... all easy access ...... ... pack side pockets can hold a variety of gear options ,,, even EXTRA water bottle , not necessarily dedicated ...

@_Chris390 11 күн бұрын

Test the Exped Down mats please. And the BD pack isn’t rare. It’s just massively overpriced. The sunglasses aren’t rare either. In fact, nothing here is. Thanks. 🤨

@rockytopwrangler2069 12 күн бұрын

.. NEMO also has another pad the Tensor Alpine at 4.9 R- value ,, I have had for about 3 years with NO problems ... Would have expected a good comment on comfort and warmth here ,, you're set up on a grass pad park surface .. next time go to a site at altitude and hard rock/dirt surface ... I'm sure it will perform just as well .... .... Running on trails with loaded pack is looking for a wreck waiting to happen ,,, and just stupid ...