I agree.

Who dis?

Thank you kindly!

It’s like he’s got a stereo on too loud in the room. Not a fan of it.

@@rstyknfe Not just me then! Ha ha

Ahhhh that's interesting! Wow, that's pretty terrible that it just snapped off.

I use another light but the same mount system. I added a piece of electric tape inside the mounts that attach to the light. It take out the play when I attache it to the mount and I ear nombre rattle when I ride. Easy fix.

Hi Antonino, this is a regular old Edge 520!

Tks 👍🏻!!!

haha yeah this was made back before I'd figured out KZfaq sound compression is friggin weird. Anyways, it turns off when charging. Maybe next generation with USB-C it'll be possible to get enough power in to charge and use it.

the only update was done in 2017, after that there have been no updates, garmin is pretty bad with this, had a chance to make something great and they missed the mark.

Great feedback Jonni! That sort of long-term testing is really valuable to find all of the flaws. The increased play in the mount is a major bummer. I'm testing some K-Edge and For Cycling mounts to avoid using the Garmin one. I'm bummed that I have the hydro Di2 levers that don't have buttons in them because being able to control the light with those hood buttons would be cool.

Ditto.@@JustRideAdelaide - Today's hydraulic Di2 levers have these hood buttons. I think they've been like that for the last couple of years now. They are a good upgrade. I use them extensively for both head unit and lights. For those not running Di2 you can also easily control the lights from your head unit. I do this on my non-Di2 bike and find it in many ways better than running auto mode. Auto mode on the 500 light (the previous version) was in many ways better as it would change beam and focus based on your speed. But that light was enormous. I did try out a few other mounts, but have come back to the Garmin mount as I find it to be the best one. Also using a dual head unit / GoPro mount had me over-tighten the light in the mount and subsequently break one of the fixtures off the light (which Garmin were kind enough to replace under warranty). I'm under the impression that the GoPro mount may have slightly wider dimensions than Garmin's GoPro like mount, but that may also be the case with the mounts I've tried out and not the light. The play in the mount I've pretty much solved with a little piece of cardboard that I shimmy in between. Best lights in my opinion are made by Exposure, but sadly no smart features for these as of yet, but rugged build, amazing light quality and battery life.

Jonni TM I have a K-Edge Combi mount - your experience has got me wondering whether the UT800 is actually going to work with the GoPro part of the mount though.

Will Johnson I think it’s mostly think it’s a matter of over tightening the light in the mount. K-Edge are good quality mounts and should be well dimensioned. I’ve used my light adequately tightened in my Garmin mount for well over a year now and had no problems. I can also easily adjust its angle when needed. Incidentally, after seeing this review, I used my 800 on a 5 hour night ride in auto mode, using my Di2 switches to swap between pulsating mode in lit areas and constant light with intensity determined by my speed in unlit areas. Light lasted for the entire ride (so did my Garmin Varia Radar) with power to spare. I guess the last few firmware updates have greatly improved power management on both lights. Still won’t run while charging, though.

Jonni TM Can you comment if the running while charging is a software or hardware limitation? Would be great if Garmin could fix this through a SW update.

I have this experience with all kinds of hardware (headphones in particular), software is absolutely crappy. I have to add that most of the time it's not the engineers who fuck projects up, but business people trying to squeeze out 10 people and 1 year worth of development from 2-3 people under 4 months or something. Then the engineers must cut corners. Very sad, but companies can milk their products faster this way. Of course I saw very incompetent software developers, but that's rare at proper companies. Source: I'm a software developer, and I had to do this many times before. So please don't blame the engineers, their hands are tied. (Most probably)

@ Good experience design doesn't take much time, it just needs someone to consider it enough early on in the development. Some of these oversights smell to me like the wrong specification set too early, and the faults found out too late (coming from too many years being an UX designer in engineering firms)

​@@TomPritchard_turtlefish Yeah, that's very much possible, but then that's not an engineering oversight. (again, most of the time)

Why do people come to a review after they have bought the product? Do you need validation on your purchases to make you feel better?

@@bongobob7079 who’s a grumpy bollock today then. Need a hug. To put you right in your comment I am letting some know the issues I’ve had and others have had as well. I watched some reviews to see if others were having the same issues. Anyway take care and enjoy a meditation or 2.

It'd be cool bit that's a bit too much cash for me

agreed but more bulky

When it comes to size, BC25R is comparable to the Garmin, BC30R is the bulky one.

Except they look terrible.

I also own the Fenix BC25R and its perfect. Espescially for oncoming traffic. Great output, great patern. Simple button. Rear i have the Fenix BC05R, also very Nice and cheap

Hey Jacek, the light can't be used when charging. It switches itself off

@@JustRideAdelaide thank you

Prastt A rear radar like the Garmin Varia Radar actually saves lives when dealing with distracted drivers. A realty more now than ever and forever will be. The Garmin 500 as you know is not up to that task. For years I loved the Garmin 500, now stays on my trainer for power meter interval training only. Went with the 530. Well worth it in many levels. Consider helping to mitigate rear oncoming traffic danger with integratabtle technology when available. Could be the best money spent.

Hopefully! I'm currently working on getting a couple of review units from Garmin Australia. I've got a Lezyne Mega XL and Mega C already that I'll be making reviews for soon.

The light does have a standard GoPro interface on it so it'll fit anything with that on it.

Hmmm... dunno. I suspect it'll just react to the low ambient light and stay lit. No long tunnels in my area to test.

That's a flash feature , it's a setting.

Well, it is not like there is a huge amount of data to transmit, so it is perfectly possible to use one of the low power technologies (BLE, ANT+). And being Garmin product, ANT+ is more than logical. So there is no reason for such a huge battery drain.