Harley Davidson Doesn't Want You to see inside the New Oil Filter - vs Fram

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Jay W Case

Jay W Case

Күн бұрын

We Cut open 2 Harley Davidson oil filters and a FRAM to do a comparison of which oil filter is best. It turns out they have something in common you won't believe until you see. In this video we look inside three oil filters to get a good look at an unexpected problem as well as discover a solution that has been staring us in the face all along.
The Oil Filter that is the Hero of this video is available here:
amzn.to/3vloXM0
You can install it at your next oil change, or cut it open, like I did, to see inside first hand.
and at the same time, you help me earn from qualifying purchases.
The FRAM oil filter Time Machine presents a rare opportunity to travel back in time to a place where the Harley Davidson oil filter problem didn't exist yet.

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@JayWCase
@JayWCase Жыл бұрын
Check out part 2 of this video here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r6phZcqkyOCxZaM.html
@rickeyhorstkoetter632
@rickeyhorstkoetter632 Жыл бұрын
Already did... went right to it. I can only imagine the work & time that goes into making something like that. Soldier on. Oyeah impressive! FLH58
@thebluesrockers
@thebluesrockers Жыл бұрын
I have used and recommended Fram oil filters for years. I don't need to watch the follow up video, I have known for a very long time that nearly everything about Harley Davidson motor cycles are foreign made. About as close as we come to American made is the assembly process, because even the frames are made in Canada, at least they used to be. Now a days they may be made in China. I know that's where that oil Filter was made. at least the new Harley Davidson filter was. I'm not sure if I remember what state the fram filter was made, but I'm thinking they're actually made in Wisconsin. But I'm not sure without looking that up. Great video and I absolutely loved your speech at the end. This all about me, me, me society is truly sickening. I wish you the best. Peace..
@Lumpia_In_Texas
@Lumpia_In_Texas Жыл бұрын
Thanks oil jesus
@archieanderson2945
@archieanderson2945 Жыл бұрын
Well I know what filter I will use on my 1996 Evo, But what oil would you recommend for the 1996 Stock motor.
@pfoxhound
@pfoxhound Жыл бұрын
Maan! I love your song Dead and buried! Why did you switch to reviews of filters!?
@AmalgmousProxy
@AmalgmousProxy Жыл бұрын
This is a real blow to the purist out there who are "I only use HD parts only." and definitely threw some egg on HD corporate's face. It's the way you handled it and your message at the end that stood out to me. Thanks for that.
@chrisclark6161
@chrisclark6161 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure HDs corporate face is just a broken egg at this point. Most of their products have been dissected and proven to be extremely low effort and low quality. They've historically had random periods of producing straight garbage because they can ride on reputation for while, then snap correcting once people catch on.
@VN9001
@VN9001 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisclark6161 Sadly, I have experienced this first hand buying Harley parts/Accessories for my bike. I have now returned three (3) HD things I purchased for my bike in the past two years because of flawed workmanship/poor quality - but the price $$ was still premium Harley Davidson. No more, I've given up on them. I am convinced they were just Made in China imports with HD's logo. I mean, they really were Dollar Store quality. I will only buy non-HD after market now or do without. I am especially shocked and surprised at the oil filter here. No more HD filters for me. It has been obvious for a while now that HD is just a profit/greed company that only cares about the shareholders. It's sad to see that happen to what was once a company that really cared about its riding customers. If anyone here plays guitar, you will know that Gibson is now the same as HD in this respect. Low quality/max price and profit. 😒
@killdozer3464
@killdozer3464 Жыл бұрын
@@VN9001 I only use after market parts on my Softail, and most of those are made in the USA. (most harley techs and mechanics do as well, even though they could get the HD branded stuff at a discount). The only think I get HD branded first if available is the electronic wiring harnesses, extensions, kits, etc. That stuff it is still made of great quality and better than most aftermarket. My bike is very far from stock, and the only thing that is HD branded is the Quick-detach mounting kit for my sissy bar. Everything else that is not stock, it is aftermarket. I buy performance upgrades from DKCustomProducts, and Handlebars, pegs, bags, risers, gloves, and more from Trashin' Supply Company. Both american small business, and parts manufactured in the USA of high quality. You get what you pay for, and HD (made in china) aint it.
@nortonkev7533
@nortonkev7533 Жыл бұрын
I had a discussion with the parts guy in HD shop . He was adamant HD oil is the best for your motorcycle end of. I’m trying to tell him Harley oil is rebranded . It’s better than mobile 1 he kept saying. Wow wow wow. Maybe he’s been educated by Harley Davidson !!!!
@youngmike8645
@youngmike8645 Жыл бұрын
@@VN9001 guitar player here and yes. Also I own Gibson’s so I’m not a hater. Lot of “misses” not as many “hits”
@sniglom
@sniglom Жыл бұрын
For me the surprise wasn't that Fram makes good filters, it was that the HD filter was so bad. Thanks for a great video Jay.
@plantfeeder6677
@plantfeeder6677 Жыл бұрын
Ya because when you compare Fram to all the rest, Fram sucks....except when compared with HD.
@sniglom
@sniglom Жыл бұрын
​@@plantfeeder6677 Thanks for your input. I value your opinion as you value Fram. Have a great day.
@deadprivacy
@deadprivacy Жыл бұрын
@@plantfeeder6677 only the cheap ones, they make two levels of filter i believe.
@randallshulsen7222
@randallshulsen7222 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't surprised, but maybe the box with the H-D logo will be a collectable item someday. Definitely a great conversation piece as well, I can hear the kids saying "...but daddy, why does it say "made in China?..."
@MagnusCross
@MagnusCross Жыл бұрын
Apparently, you don't research parts.
@2001gwmc
@2001gwmc Жыл бұрын
I've been riding for 63 years. All makes and models. I've been using FRAM filters in all my cars, truck and bikes since the 1960's. I"VE NEVER HAD A FAILURE OF ANY KIND! I agree with you 100%! And God Bless You on your "Be Kind to a Stranger" advice. The world needs more people like you!
@MagnusCross
@MagnusCross Жыл бұрын
63 years?! Wow, you must be a wizard.
@aushaak
@aushaak Жыл бұрын
He started at 6 years old with a full dresser, and worked his way up from there 😂
@2001gwmc
@2001gwmc Жыл бұрын
I was born in 1946. Got my first bike (scooter...Cushman Eagle) 1960. I was 14.
@aushaak
@aushaak Жыл бұрын
Keeping a passion for riding that long is impressive. I just moved from biking on dirt to pavement and bought a Kawasaki 650 and I've been loving it. I wish we had more bikes in the US, it might help the visibility issue.
@2001gwmc
@2001gwmc Жыл бұрын
@@MagnusCrossNo, I'm not a wizard, just old. I was only commenting about my experience with FRAM filters. I often hear negative comments about FRAM filters and I was just sharing my "60+ years of experience" using them. Again, I've never had a failure. Peace.
@SilentScreamer413
@SilentScreamer413 Жыл бұрын
Demonstration by example. Wise and kind words, no hostility or mocking. You sir just gained another follower!
@joedavis8043
@joedavis8043 Жыл бұрын
As a heavy diesel mechanic ( and someone who has never owned a Harley), I have no idea why this showed up in my feed, but I found it very interesting. Doing something kind can be as simple as tapping a like button and leaving a comment to help a person out with the algorithm for talking time to share information like this.
@PinChE_LoCo
@PinChE_LoCo Жыл бұрын
Damn. I've never seen someone drop mic so brutally calm.
@randomlife718
@randomlife718 2 ай бұрын
It was great!
@Show-be3yk
@Show-be3yk Жыл бұрын
This dude.... besides the great video and info, didn't ask for a like or subscribe, like absolutely everyone else does in every single video (I had done both on my own already at that point). That was nice. Then he goes on to give some genuinely great life advice that really can change the communities we live in, and made an effort to get you to really think about it. This is a good guy
@kennydyoung4783
@kennydyoung4783 Жыл бұрын
Jay, you just gkt yourself another follower. Cant wait for the next videos content. Thank you very kindly sir.
@ralphorr8138
@ralphorr8138 Жыл бұрын
I have been mechanic since 1976 and this is the best video about filters i have ever seen. Thank you for making this video.
@tattoorichie2248
@tattoorichie2248 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. As a 50 year motorcycle builder, rider, racer of many brands, you info on the filters is spot on. Also, you speak with kindness and that shows in your final comments. Ride safe.
@GawgaCracka
@GawgaCracka Жыл бұрын
Well Said Friend, Well Said.
@gregcaron6627
@gregcaron6627 Жыл бұрын
I've been riding for 37 years, Harley-Davidsons for 26 of those years. One of the most irritating aspects of the biker community is the Fan Boys that are blindly loyal to one brand, one creed, one religion, etc, etc. I love this video & the way that you respectfully inform & educate for any that want to listen with an open mind. And, your message at the end about helping others is awesome. Thank you
@ttompkins992
@ttompkins992 Жыл бұрын
Jay proves that buying any product based on brand name alone does not ensure top quality and he gave a clear and concise breakdown of all 3 filters to support his opinion. Great video!
@hammeredwindows
@hammeredwindows Жыл бұрын
I have been using Fram oil filters ONLY for the past 15 years of my 30+ Harley riding years & they NEVER let me down, NEVER had one problem with them! I work on all 3 of my Harleys myself and like it that way. That way I KNOW I got quality parts on my machines!!! It kills me when Harley riders I know with less years riding wanna think they know better. Thank you for proving this one point for me! AND great message at the end!!! Hope you have an AWESOME day!!!
@tomd4167
@tomd4167 Жыл бұрын
It just amazes me at how well this guy explains things. Unlike many KZfaq videos where the guy seems to be talking just to hear himself, every word that comes out of this guy’s mouth is valuable. He doesn’t waste any and he doesn’t waste your time. As a side comment, is it just me or does he just get better and better looking with every video. I love the longer hair the longer beard. You look awesome dude. Please don’t change that look.
@willb1157
@willb1157 Жыл бұрын
He speaks without rush, and I much prefer this. The info is stated and enunciated in a way my brain retains. Brilliant for some of us.
@ardyrides834
@ardyrides834 Жыл бұрын
@@willb1157 - I really dislike the KZfaq videos where the guy or gal speak so fast. Even if it is just the intro to the video. Then we have the ones who repeat themselves often, and use a lot of useless verbage like "you know", "uh", "um", "yeah", "huh", "like I said", etc.
@nateryan7041
@nateryan7041 Жыл бұрын
Well I just want to say someone who has been riding Harley-Davidson for many years I am shocked at the poor quality of that filter and I would really like to thank you for taking the time to show this to me and many others I will of course pass your content around and make sure everybody sees it because that is an absolute shocking situation with such an expensive part from Harley-Davidson and I hope someone from there is watching this and they realised that we have eyes as well as they do and I hope they can see exactly what we are seeing too and I hope they can make a simple decision and make a better oil filter thank you so so much it's very very much I am from Ireland so thank
@CorePathway
@CorePathway Жыл бұрын
How can ANY Harley fan be surprised at over-priced for the quality pricing?
@cloudnine5651
@cloudnine5651 Жыл бұрын
you are a fool if you think harley will change...it was done to make more money. period. thats all they care about
@nateryan7041
@nateryan7041 Жыл бұрын
Some of the parts are just ridiculously priced !! I think who ever is running Harley right now there only concern is money not customer satisfaction!!
@cloudnine5651
@cloudnine5651 Жыл бұрын
@@nateryan7041 its been that way for a while. almost every company is not only like that....they are required by law to do so if they are a publicly traded company. there are no incentives to making something better
@streetfighter3k144
@streetfighter3k144 Жыл бұрын
@@nateryan7041 I am not a HD owner, but as a Porsche owner I can tell you exactly the same shit happens, and with Ferrari… As my late dad used to say : the customer begs to be cheated! Much respect to Mr Case, daring to share this video with us. Thanks a lot from Marc, Belgium.
@timberwolfdtproductions3890
@timberwolfdtproductions3890 Жыл бұрын
Great information! I’ll buy Fram from now on. What really impressed me, though, is your advice about doing something kind for a stranger. I could not agree more! Nothing makes us feel good like helping someone else. Just five seconds being kind to a stranger can make you walk taller all day!
@Winterstick549
@Winterstick549 Жыл бұрын
Buy the good Fram, not the cheap Fram. Fram makes various levels of qualitym
@harleybigdadbiker9503
@harleybigdadbiker9503 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a real down to earth,informative video,no fluff,no crap,just real good advice.something really worth watching.
@nathansunshine9453
@nathansunshine9453 Жыл бұрын
This was the first video of yours I have seen. I really appreciate your no-bullshit, just the facts, science and logic forward presentation style and content. I did share with a few of my friends. I work in a motorcycle shop that works on anything-but-a-Harley and you have totally changed my opinion about what a smart and well spoken Haley person could be.
@whalesong999
@whalesong999 Жыл бұрын
I'm retired from the business, never touched a Harley with a wrench, just many years of servicing Japanese and Spanish brands. I had an intuition about what this video was going to show and wasn't disappointed. So many opinions floating around out there and seeing some objective example to educate was well worth it.
@rickyhawkins7407
@rickyhawkins7407 Жыл бұрын
Like the above poster stated, this is the first video of yours I have ever seen. And I like the way you presented. Most content makers talk to much about nothing. Their channels have turned into infomercials. I am subscribing as soon as I finish tying this.
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 Жыл бұрын
@@whalesong999 Bultaco, OSSA, Montessa, my three favorite classics. J Wood just auctioned off the contents of the Vintage Trail Bike Museum in Cheshire Massachusetts. It was sad because my friend had passed away and the museum was dissolved.
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 Жыл бұрын
@@rickyhawkins7407 and no shifty background music either!
@whalesong999
@whalesong999 Жыл бұрын
@@savage22bolt32 I got involved with Bultaco in 1961, first units came through Bultaco Western in California. Later on took machines from Cemoto East headed by John Taylor who eventually began importing OSSA and took them on as well. I won two medals in the Berkshire Trials on my OSSA Pioneer, a silver in 1970. They were satisfying machines, stable and rugged, quite different from the other two makes.
@captainchaos3053
@captainchaos3053 Жыл бұрын
I been using fram filters for about 35 years with no problems. I'm glad you made this video as I have often had this discussion with others who don't believe until they see for themselves. I am also aware there was a glut of fake fram filters going around for a while. I haven't seen any for about 5 years but it's easy to spot a fake and avoid it. Many manufacturers have fitted fram filters O.E.
@captainchaos3053
@captainchaos3053 Жыл бұрын
@@plantfeeder6677 Well all can say is I have cut thousands of filters open and have seen the fake Fram filters first hand. I will check out project farm but I'm almost sure he did not but from a reputable dealer if he does have one of the poor quality filters. 35 years building engines and oil is high on the list of things that gets taken very seriously. What brand do you recommend?
@donaldstonge8068
@donaldstonge8068 Жыл бұрын
Guess what folks Harley doesn't manufacture oil filters! They manufacture motorcycles and are in the business to make profit squeezing every dime! That's a fact...so they have the lowest bidder fill their oil filter contract. Fram or Purolator or someone else is making the filters anyway. That's just basic manufacturing sense. Don
@travismailsa1
@travismailsa1 Жыл бұрын
@@plantfeeder6677 Been a Project Farm subscriber for ages, I have never seen a oil filter video/fram oil filter test nor can i find a video related to this on Project Farm. Are you possibly a line worker at the new/current HD filters? I have used Fram on my Audi a3 and a4 as well as my motorcycles without any issues. I have rebuilt countless bikes and cars in my spare time over the years.
@dantyler6907
@dantyler6907 10 ай бұрын
I've used ONLY Fram since I started driving 35 years ago. Never had a problem, never leaked. My car is a 2006 Sienna with 302,000 miles. NEVER a problem! Still runs like new, gets the same mileage it ever has. Thanks Fram!
@gschan
@gschan Жыл бұрын
I'm the furthest thing from a Harley guy but I can totally appreciate what you did here and especially the message at the end of the video. Random acts of kindness definitely goes a long way. Liked and Subscribed. Continue spreading the positivity! 👍👌🙏
@BadBoysBailBondIndiana
@BadBoysBailBondIndiana Жыл бұрын
You just landed another new subscriber. Not just for the information but also way you pass it on. Thanks! Kindness is infectious!
@edwardsp1916
@edwardsp1916 Жыл бұрын
Same for me too. What a great video and presenter.
@MARKBaid
@MARKBaid Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jay for ALL the information you provided. I heard a saying long ago which I try to live by "In a world where you can be anything, BE KIND"
@timmytexlonghorns2206
@timmytexlonghorns2206 Жыл бұрын
Such a wholesome guy and a really in depth breakdown of the filters
@paulboyd8275
@paulboyd8275 Жыл бұрын
Jay, thank you for taking the time to educate a lot of folks on the quality of filters. I'm 60 years old and grew up working on my own vehicles. Almost every parts store you went into showed cut filters. Usually it was Fram vs. Wix. The Fram always looked very cheaply made, while the Wix looked very well put together. I believe that has stuck in the minds of a lot of folks. I am very glad that you made this video, showing the quality of Fram nowadays. I will certainly keep that in mind when changing the oil on my bike. I especially want to thank you for the very special and inspirational ending of your video. Far too many folks have gotten away from that thinking. I do believe that what you have said can make a huge difference. Hopefully, folks will take your advice! Again, many thanks!
@jcassociates8198
@jcassociates8198 Жыл бұрын
Every one is different, The car ones are alot cheaper made than the New one for the Harley.
@justnsaliga8518
@justnsaliga8518 Жыл бұрын
@@jcassociates8198 Depending on how much you spend and application, Fram filters are from very cheaply made to Very well made i use Fram Racing diesel oil filters on my truck... they're just below Cat filters without being a stupendously tall housing. and they beat Fleetguard cummins filters. not to mention they're less than half the price of the cummins filter which is about 80 dollars and the cat filter thats about 100-120 i already have to buy 240 dollars worth of oil every oil change which is every 3500 miles. or 200 hours. why would i spend money on a oil filter thats supposed to last 3-4 times longer than my oil change interval and its over double the price. 32 dollars vs 80-120
@jimedward8908
@jimedward8908 Жыл бұрын
@@justnsaliga8518 Maybe I will give fram a try on my 2001 cummins 5.9
@Rhaspun
@Rhaspun Жыл бұрын
In other videos the Fram filters, at least for cars had cardboard endcaps instead of the metal endcaps like the filter in this video. When you spent more money on the higher priced Fram filters with full synthetic filtering media it was then the metal endcaps showed back up.
@spartanx169x
@spartanx169x Жыл бұрын
I have used Fram on every motor I have ever owned. Never had a single issue. Been doing this since my first motorcycle in 1983. Not one issue EVER.
@araneaetvelivolum1086
@araneaetvelivolum1086 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this kind video for us strangers. Your logic and argumentation line is bullet proof. Looking forward to the video about the manufacturing at home . Ride safe 🤙
@michaeldittmer5326
@michaeldittmer5326 11 ай бұрын
Hello. This is the first video of yours that I have watched. I must say you did very well in presentation of each filter and hopefully ending the fram slams. Also the life changing advice is spot on! Thumbs up on the video and I will be watching more. Thank you.
@mgweir3252
@mgweir3252 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I also love the kindness message at the end. The world has lost empathy and it sorely needs it.
@neilschnurr5186
@neilschnurr5186 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos I have ever seen! I remember a few years back, people started running down Fram filters and many more jumped on that bandwagon. I have never had any problems with Fram oil filters, and never witnessed anyone else having any problems either. I was always suspicious of all of the anti-Fram claims. Here's some good evidence that my suspicions were correct. I would be willling to bet that it is not just Harley Davidson that is skimping on parts either. There is good reason to believe that many OEM parts are not as good as name brand aftermarket parts. Who knows who even makes OEM parts anyways? The manufacturers sure aren't going to tell you. One thing you can count on though is this: OEM service parts (like filters and tune up parts) are made by the lowest bidder that could meet the minimum specifications. The only thing Fram makes is filters. They have a lot more to lose if it found that thier filters consistantly fail than Harley Davidson or Ford does if filters with their names on them consistantly failed. People consider HD a motorcycle manufacturer, and Ford an auto manufacturer. Most people wouldn't judge an entire bike or car by the OEM filter, even if it failed. They would just say something like "It's a good machine, it just had a bad filter." If the same thing happened with a Fram filter, they would say "Fram filters are junk."
@gmctech
@gmctech Жыл бұрын
All very true, but when you deal with as many oil sample testing results that utilize Rotating Disc Electrode (RDE) and Inductively Coupled Plasma (ICP) tests to determine particle size as i have over the years you get a sense of the difference between say a Fram's vs a WIX's filter media and to me thats where the rubber meets the road. I've had crappy chinesium two dollar filters outperform Fram but shockingly come very very close to WIX in ability. I'll be honest though, i dont see many Fram results anymore because mostly everything i touch is WIX equipped so Fram may have picked it up quite a few notches over the past 7 years...
@dangerous8333
@dangerous8333 Жыл бұрын
There is not good reason to believe that aftermarket parts are better than OEM, because that's just not true. I've been restoring cars for 25 years now and it really depends on what car/motorcycle maker you're talking about. For instance, OEM Yamaha and Honda parts, and I'm talking specifically about my motorcycles, are just as good if not better than aftermarket parts. The same was always true about my German vehicles. Harley-Davidson on the other hand is known for trying to rip off their customers. So it's pretty far fetched to use this example and apply it across the board.
@dangerous8333
@dangerous8333 Жыл бұрын
@@gmctech Chinesium is a term for Chinese products that are made out of low quality Chinese metal. Not paper filters. It comes from putting the word Chinese in front of magnesium. Yes, the filter is encased in metal but that's not the same thing.
@gmctech
@gmctech Жыл бұрын
@Dan Gerous WRONG MR. KNOW-IT-ALL, IT'S BASICALLY AN ALL ENCOMPASSING BLANKET TERM! From the the web!..... "Chinesium is a made up element, not found on the periodic table, which was invented as a blanket term for every cheap material (metal, plastic, ceramic) originating from China, manufactured at a low quality to decrease production costs and to maximize profits."
@doublenickle570
@doublenickle570 Жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised at these results as I used to work for wix filters and we made the oil filters for nearly every brand you see on the shelf including AC Delco, Mopar, Ford and Fram. Back then Fram filters were made with better components and were much higher quality than even the OEM filters we made. Fram set their standards higher and were a bit of a pain to make because of those standards but I've used them ever since with no regrets and even paid more for them knowing I was getting a higher quality part. It's nice to know that they haven't lowered their standards over the years like some manufacturers have.
@choltzapple
@choltzapple Жыл бұрын
In the automotive world at least, Fram has earned their reputation for making terrible filters.
@clybrown
@clybrown Жыл бұрын
@@choltzapple people always say that, but I've never seen anyone have any evidence to back it up.
@CBD-Life-South-Africa
@CBD-Life-South-Africa Жыл бұрын
@@choltzapple Frams bad reputation is from knock off products being sold, Always Check that your source for filters is a registered Fram Agent! if they get it from some reseller then usually its a fake
@jmohafa6939
@jmohafa6939 Жыл бұрын
This guy is pretty good but would love to see other filters in thd test. trucks cost a fortune and million mile motors and you dont use Fram for a reason bmw an Mercedes are the same Allison transmission uses a WIX for a reason. Chev use to use them, now the fuel and transmission filters now are cheap junk made in china at twice the price.. Bob the oil guy is a very good source.
@joshmanis9860
@joshmanis9860 Жыл бұрын
@@clybrown cardboard for the filter element and rust inside them brand new
@TheNickbris
@TheNickbris Жыл бұрын
My favorite part of this video was the advice. Thank you for sharing your research and kind words.
@RockyRaccoonsdead
@RockyRaccoonsdead Жыл бұрын
Thank you,for the eye opening advice and your kindness !
@trevorjones7450
@trevorjones7450 Жыл бұрын
Amazing the differences in OEM parts today as compared to earlier parts. I have always used Fram filters on my cars and trucks, now I will use them on my Harleys. Thank You very much for pointing out these differences in OEM and Aftermarket parts. 'Back in the Day', as folks are fond of saying, I used Nothing but H-D Oil and Fluids, along with the various filters, on all of my rides. Old Dogs can and do learn New Tricks!! A Smile and or a Kind Word costs you nothing, but it can be the Best Gift that person gets for a while. I try to be Kind and Friendly no matter what or where. You never know what the other individual is going through, people tend to react in kind to Decent and Respectful Treatment. 'Give Respect and Get Respect' is a motto I try to live by. The Old Saying, 'Act like an Asshole, get Treated like One' is still powerful today. If someone is nasty to me, I try to be understanding and expect the same from others. The world can be a very beautiful place if you have the right Mind-Set. 'Attitude truly is Everything'.
@TraceyAllen
@TraceyAllen Жыл бұрын
Overall I think it was a fair and honest video with the information supplied, but there was some left out. The differences in filter media. 1. The total square inches of filter media. The amount of surface area determines the amount of oil that can be filtered at once. 2. The size of particles that are filtered out. The HD twin cam filter (99 part number suffix) goes down to 5 microns. The Evo filter(77 part number suffix) only filters down to 30 microns. 3. By pass pressure rating. All spin on oil filters have some form of oil filtering by pass. It allows oil to by pass the filter if the filter gets to restrictive ot flow. Dirty oil is better than no oil. All spin on filters will do this way more than you want to think about. 4.is the filter capable of providing enough oil. A sportster with a twin cam oil filter will experience bottom end low or no pressure. I personally would not put a Fram on my lawn mower let alone an expensive motorcycle. 20 years of working on American air cooled vtwins for my money has taught me. There is the exception to every rule, and you really do get to see it all. Much like many things that were better in the old days Fram is one of them. H
@snippits75
@snippits75 Жыл бұрын
@@TraceyAllen You can plainly see that HD is skimping on filter media because of all the space between the pleats. Add all the glue that's clogging the filter media, and I guess you get the picture. As far as lawnmowers or motorcycles go, I don't have an opinion on the quality of Fram's oil filters. But for automobiles Fram makes some of the best on the market. The Ultra Synthetic is top notch.
@TraceyAllen
@TraceyAllen Жыл бұрын
@@snippits75 I’m glad that you have had good luck with fram filters. I’ve been a technician for 20 years, specifically working on Harleys, victory’s, excelsior henderson, buell , and Indian. I have never seen a stock/Oem oil filter that was properly installed, fail. I have seen several Frams. Not a big percentage of the total amount, but more than 0. The main failure point is that glue. The filter media will come loose and plug up the filter. Oil temps in air cooled motorcycles gets really hot, especially now when they are running so lean for emissions, like 275 to 350 degrees. Maybe more if you are in the south. At the end of the day the biggest problem with any vehicle is the lack of any kind of maintenance. I’d rather see you regularly change your fram filter, than you neglecting a stock one for too long. Regular maintenance is the cheapest option.
@HPG45
@HPG45 Жыл бұрын
Further reinforces the fact (not idea, but fact) that most motorcyclists, despite their rough outer appearance, are some of the nicest people you'll ever come across in your life. Case and point with Jay in this video. Thank you for opening our eyes to the reality of the situation, as even with as trivial as an oil filter may be to some. Anything that helps another live life a little easier and aids in doing what they enjoy should be championed, needless to say. I'm looking forward to more vids from you!
@jjsnook
@jjsnook Жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work..... enjoyed the video..... great presentation.....your patience and sincerity is greatly appreciated
@stoutdog56
@stoutdog56 Жыл бұрын
Well done and thank you! I worked for a large auto parts distributor go or 36 years and am familiar with different filter manufacturing. You are spot on and I'll be looking at my current filter after I replace it and everyone of them thereafter to verify the quality.
@EclecticBedlam
@EclecticBedlam Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you did this deconstruction video. I hope you changed some minds.
@jeffhughes7536
@jeffhughes7536 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done Jay. I'm a retired designer from HD and I've always used the Fram filter. Now maybe because of your video they might become more difficult to find. Don't know. Good job comparing and showing the inside. Thanks for doing the video. Unfortunately some will stand on that hill claiming that HD is better. I'll continue using the Fram filter and ride with confidence and think of it as a piece of art. Thanks for the advise at the end of the video. Yep, your advise can make a HUGE impact on someone life and you might not even know it.
@williamevans6043
@williamevans6043 Жыл бұрын
I knew that's where you were going with this, way to go man, keep up the good work !!!
@phredrocks
@phredrocks Жыл бұрын
Great info, I was talkin to a harley mechanic the other day about my new to me 1987 flhtp, he really did not have anything good to say about fram filters. but i have been using them on all my vehicles since the late 80's. I will continue to use them. Thanks again Jay!
@mungbeanization
@mungbeanization Жыл бұрын
Wow man this is honestly one of the best vids I've seen in a while man. Great message at the end and just a no BS product comparison
@scottiequality1981
@scottiequality1981 Жыл бұрын
This video rules! Jay seems like a total stand up guy. Hilarious, informative and absolutely right about all of it..especially kindness:)
@ZsOtherBrother
@ZsOtherBrother Жыл бұрын
That's one of the best videos I've seen lately. I like the fact that you took the time and effort to check for yourself something that would otherwise remain a mere speculation, or someone's opinion, and that you checked the old style Harley filter, to which the rest of us may not have access. I also appreciate the message at the end. Thank you for sharing.
@JohnTOutlander
@JohnTOutlander Жыл бұрын
Good information, thanks man. After 42 years of riding I now own my first HD. You just showed me something that I needed to see. And I'm not shocked at all.
@Willy7212
@Willy7212 Жыл бұрын
Really impressive video. The filters, the being kind. I have been using K and N oil filters in my 04 Heritage. I looked at the box and they were made in Taiwan. Now I want to take it apart and look inside. You are a good man Jay. The world is still full of kind people and you are an example of them. Cheers from Ontario
@mikemccabe5492
@mikemccabe5492 Жыл бұрын
I very rarely comment on any KZfaq content but this is so well presented and has such a solid answer to skeptics it is refreshing. The end message is icing on this particular cake. Well done and well received.
@derekperry7606
@derekperry7606 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Especially the message at the end! About 5 years ago, I began a daily commitment to do something kind for someone each and every day.
@sidjames5827
@sidjames5827 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your perspective, honesty and good advice.
@stevemolina8801
@stevemolina8801 Жыл бұрын
I cant add anything that others haven't written already but this is a great presentation from Start to Finish. Thank you Buddy. Ride Far - Ride Fast!
@BarryJoe-70
@BarryJoe-70 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the way you handled this video on every level, not shaming or being Derogatory to the people who left original comments, but were informative and straight forward, but the end message earned you a subscriber.
@ahutchins3405
@ahutchins3405 Жыл бұрын
Thanks friend a video with a great message. The world needs more people like you. You made someone's day brighter. And yes the oil filter info was also good
@hokaheyrider059
@hokaheyrider059 Жыл бұрын
This is the first of your videos I've seen and I am impressed and subscribed. Thanks for putting this info out for anyone willing to look for it. I'm going to do two things today. First will be to go out and buy the Fram filter for my next oil change and second, will be to do something nice for a stranger. Thanks again.
@stephenbone9929
@stephenbone9929 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sincere and honest advice during and at the end of the video. You my Friend are a stand-up guy!
@williesweetjr8713
@williesweetjr8713 Жыл бұрын
The best side by side comparison video I have seen on the subject. That alone would make me subscribe but you're appeal to treat each other with kindness really sealed the deal. Well done sir!
@vapingwithjames3370
@vapingwithjames3370 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always used fram and never had issues in fact my last car had 450,000 miles when I sold it so obviously fram filters work and work well. Great video
@Yamacati
@Yamacati Жыл бұрын
Many videos on Fram Oil Filters on KZfaq, Do your own research. K&N for me.
@LikelyCandidate
@LikelyCandidate Жыл бұрын
@@openroadtrucking6562 Did you watch the video? I've sent new Wix filters back on more than one occasion due to poor workmanship. Every application is different. Product quality from most major brands is not the same across the board. I've seen the videos where Fram looks awful. This video shows the opposite. And in one of my applications Wix has sucked consistently. That said, it probably would have worked fine. I've never seen or heard of an engine failure from a cheap oil filter and it doesn't look like HD is concerned about it either.
@johnselwood1659
@johnselwood1659 Жыл бұрын
@@LikelyCandidate Agree wouldnt touch a wix filter seen them fall apart on numerous occasions i generally use Purflux filters but depends on the engine i am fitting them to as it does depend which model to which is best to use
@dangerous8333
@dangerous8333 Жыл бұрын
That is not a scientific test, just an FYI.
@alg1967
@alg1967 Жыл бұрын
Jay Thank you for all the information you give us I appreciate you videos. Number #1 you keep it real.
@richardrodriquez381
@richardrodriquez381 Жыл бұрын
Wow you are on point. Loved that they say do research and found that they have been weighed , measured and found wanting.
@A_A_R_on
@A_A_R_on Жыл бұрын
I just bought my first harley a week ago and just randomly found myself on this video and you sir have a subscriber. Great info, great moral message! Doing good work
@andrewsmith9575
@andrewsmith9575 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jay! Excellent video my friend! First time viewer, now a new subscriber! Over 40 years as a mechanic. I have used nothing but fram oil filters on my own machines. For my customers I will always offer that. For the customers that want the oem filter, I am happy to give them what they want too. As a professional mechanic that has run my solo shop over 35 years, your words at the end are truly the key to the best work life I could have ever imagined! I practice that everyday. “Live the life you love, love the life you live” Bob Marley
@Sukesada1513
@Sukesada1513 Жыл бұрын
First video of yours that I've seen Jay. Nicely done man, and that peice of advise is gold. 😎🤙
@ryanjeffrey-lz9iw
@ryanjeffrey-lz9iw Жыл бұрын
I literally have both of these filters right now the new Fram one and new Harley 1 I'm going to check this out this is awesome thanks for your work
@wadestrickland3372
@wadestrickland3372 Жыл бұрын
Last bike I owned was a '00 Ultra. Year 1= 4 stators. That's also the year a Harley rep asked me to leave a bike demo at a HOG rally because I gave poor reviews of how cheaply made the FLT faring was compared to the '89 I owned. Excellent video. Thanks for the info 👍
@keyplayermark
@keyplayermark Жыл бұрын
This is the best research video I have ever watched. This puts the Fram doubters in place and I love your easy laid back video with great information that was spot on. You did a great job and will do something for a stranger. Thank you.
@evelynfarfellwooosh1219
@evelynfarfellwooosh1219 6 ай бұрын
Fram fffers different budget categories, you don't want the cheapest you'll get better quality at other brands at the same price. Go for their Mid and specially the Upper tier they are one of the best.
@randallshulsen7222
@randallshulsen7222 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I've been telling my bros this for years. HD has changed for years, AMF bought them out then they bought it back and made a comeback. But over the years it went downhill again. Fram filters are good I use them for everything. I'm an Idaho farm boy and I know what fails and what don't from experience. I don't just blindly buy shit for the logo. I've been a motorhead all my life, before I ever owned an HD. I won't go into detail but over the years I learned from men much older than I about filters and oil and I don't want to go off into the weeds doing pro-mos. But I can tell you I have used Fram filters on everything and never attributed a problem to Fram. Oil ad well I have used oil brands that so called Harley experts said will "burn up my engine" and I'm still riding my same scooter today after 30 years.
@davidjames1063
@davidjames1063 Жыл бұрын
MBA's destroy all QUALITY, for profits.
@Nine_883
@Nine_883 Жыл бұрын
They never really recovered from the corporate AMF take over days. Harley likes to skimp on parts you might never see like BEARINGS! Harley keeps a lot of aftermarket parts manufactures in business like S&S and K&N and many many others. You pay for quality, but you get scammed. Best thing to do is a get a stock 2002 Dyna or something for cheap and immediately rebuild it with aftermarket quality parts.
@randallshulsen7222
@randallshulsen7222 Жыл бұрын
@@Nine_883 I agree, I always take it apart and take the part I need in to a trusted parts supplier and see if they can match it. Most of the time they will be able to get it from a quality manufacturer for half the price or better, and it will be much greater quality. That goes for most vehicles and equipment as well.
@andrewkotcher5704
@andrewkotcher5704 Жыл бұрын
@@Nine_883 well if it wasnt for AMF they would be just another marque for companies like bombardier, people can criticize amf but amf kept harley from disappearring. and unfortunately harley is going backwards and is consumed with baggers and screw the small guy.
@tselder2000
@tselder2000 Жыл бұрын
Best advice I have seen on youtube all year long. Thank you sir, not a Harley fan but subscribed anyway.
@bill392
@bill392 Жыл бұрын
Immediately after watching this 5 days ago, I went straight to the link and bought 3 FRAM filters. They arrived today in perfect shape, they cost less than half of a K&N at Fortnine and they're better filters too. Can't beat that. If the seller didn't have a limit of three, I would have bought an even dozen. No harm in stocking up.
@robinbrowne5419
@robinbrowne5419 Жыл бұрын
A good video. Thanks. It's always nice to see someone who actually finds out the proof of the pudding, instead of relying on rumours. 👍
@billofalltrades2633
@billofalltrades2633 Жыл бұрын
I've used fram filters since I was 16 ( 1986 ) thanks for your time making this video. ❤️🙏
@InTheFleshInc
@InTheFleshInc Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy I stumbled upon this video just in time before I replaced my filter which would have been a HD chrome but now I’m definitely buying the fram chrome.
@Lambert_Life
@Lambert_Life Жыл бұрын
This is the first video of yours I've seen. I must say it was very good. Nice how you got your point across very clearly & never even raised your voice or got rude. I don't use Fram filters usually (for me it's STP or K&N) but it was cool seeing the comparison. You got a subscriber. 😎🇺🇸👌
@StonyRC
@StonyRC Жыл бұрын
This is an EXCELLENT review - and I really enjoyed the dry wit that you delivered along with the great information. Nicely done, Sir.
@jefflederman9318
@jefflederman9318 23 күн бұрын
That was perhaps the best informational video I've ever seen on any topic on KZfaq. Not a wasted word or motion throughout, crystal clear, and left absolutely no doubt when you were through. Extremely well done, Jay. About to change the filters on my and my wife's Harleys. Fram PH6065B all the way. Thank you!
@robh.583
@robh.583 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why your video popped up on my page today or why I clicked on it but I'm glad I did. I'm glad I did though. Your demeanor and approach at sharing useful knowledge is remarkable but the human being I met at the end of your message was the highlight for me. Well done Sir in all aspects. I will share this video with people I care about and I've also subscribed. Thank you for trying to make a difference 1 person at a time.
@fps636
@fps636 Жыл бұрын
Right on JC! I started using Fram years ago on my 90 XL 883 Evo when HD kept $ increasing. Didn't know that Frams were made better, thanks. My Fram oil filter was always black. I actually wanted orange like Indian Larry ALWAYS used!
@robertstewart-baldrey5896
@robertstewart-baldrey5896 Жыл бұрын
Have always fitted the Harley filter to customers bikes thinking we were offering the best we could, this has me questioning that choice. Also really enjoyed your message at the end of the video, sure does feel good to be kind out there 👍
@justsayen2024
@justsayen2024 Жыл бұрын
I don't ride a Harley-Davidson or a motorcycle for that matter but I have friends that do and I have shared it with one of my good buddies from New York thank you for your service.
@garretmclemore5398
@garretmclemore5398 5 ай бұрын
This is definitely not me coming to this video after installing the new harley filter on my street glide just today. lol a day late and a dollar short. love your channel.
@leojetdance
@leojetdance Жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic video! I’ve always used fram filters and have heard people talk bad about them. But you just made a great point.
@rockyrauf2529
@rockyrauf2529 Жыл бұрын
I subscribed juts because of "your life changing advice." Respects, Rocky
@timhenry6403
@timhenry6403 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jay. Very well done and your advice at the end should be mandatory in life.
@theodavies8754
@theodavies8754 Ай бұрын
Thanks, that was two things I didn't expect. I'll take them both onboard. Liked and left the comment to promote your good work.
@bobstewart2329
@bobstewart2329 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, thanks for this great information and comparing oil filters, very much appreciated. And your advice to be kind is really great and thanks for that as well. So simple and yet so powerful!
@solis2307
@solis2307 Жыл бұрын
The honesty in This video made me subscribe
@markbradley5444
@markbradley5444 6 күн бұрын
oh, my goodness! This is the best video I've seen for my Harley servicing in some time! Than k you Mr. Case! Very well done!!!
@victorrodriguez2806
@victorrodriguez2806 Жыл бұрын
The last two min of the video were well worth the 15 min this video took from my life. Plus, I learned something.
@tjmac1453
@tjmac1453 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I have always used Fram filters. Zero issues over the years.
@harleyguy105
@harleyguy105 Жыл бұрын
You sir have done your homework. Straight A student for sure, thank you for the information with examples. Look forward to everything you will share. America needs you! New fan Brian from SC 👍🇺🇸
@JimPoston1
@JimPoston1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay! I enjoyed your video! I'll try the FRAM filter next oil change!
@robertglancy4474
@robertglancy4474 Жыл бұрын
Damn man you brought the receipts and quieted down some naysayers too. The whole video presentation was interesting and you have new subscriber which is my act of kindness to you. Thanks for making me think a little bit deeper about the oil filter I'm putting on my bike.
@Dokmaxx1
@Dokmaxx1 Жыл бұрын
I've been using Fram oil filters all my life on everything I have ever owned. Been a mechanic for over 40 years and even though I've put other brands on customer vehicles at their request, I won't short change my own equipment.
@darrylhuggins2423
@darrylhuggins2423 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the advice. The oil filter information was valuable as well. Thank you!
@matdube3577
@matdube3577 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your advice and kindness Jay 😊
@Big88Country
@Big88Country Жыл бұрын
Thanks Brother!! AMSOIL filter and oil user. Hasn’t let me down in about a million miles total use in all my vehicles! GOD Bless!
@buzzyfuzzsaw
@buzzyfuzzsaw Жыл бұрын
This was an truly inspirational Oil Filter comparison. Who would have thought an 'oil can' review could bring a tear to my eye? This one did, and I thank you for that.
@Rick-the-Swift
@Rick-the-Swift Жыл бұрын
That was probably just a gnat or something flew in there, like the one in mine right now😅 Dang gnats🥲
@jeffreymissal
@jeffreymissal Жыл бұрын
Blows my mind that you have 21k subs with only 13 videos....I wish there were more. I appreciate your approach.
@kevincjones1
@kevincjones1 Жыл бұрын
"Represent the blood sweat and tears of the modern American assembly line worker" I nearly cried 😂😂🤣🤣 Thanks for the enlightenment
@rustyhathaway3426
@rustyhathaway3426 Жыл бұрын
This is the first video I've seen of yours. I've been using Fram filters for over 40 years on all my vehicles, bike's included even my lawn tractor. I've always heard the argument that Fram filters suck but apparently I don't listen to them... Very good video. I'll be checking out more of your videos.
@curtmartini66
@curtmartini66 Жыл бұрын
I love you closing statements about being kind to a stranger. As a matter of fact that is part of my life and who I am. I only wish more people would adopt this philosophy on a larger scale. Then like you stated, we would watch this world transform right before our eyes.
@johnclarke3197
@johnclarke3197 Жыл бұрын
Well done Jay. Great video and certainly proves a point. Just because it costs more, it does not mean it's better. Love your ethos about helping a stranger too. Cheers, John
@kentrujillo9379
@kentrujillo9379 Жыл бұрын
Great video, refreshing tone, and positive message.
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