Elemental Gauge Theory 2: Electro Boogaloo | Genshin Impact Mechanics

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Part 1: • Elemental Gauge Theory...
Attack GUs: genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Song: Gandharva Ville - Genshin Impact OST
• 『Vagrant Wandering 気まま...
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction
00:28 Hydro-Freeze Double Aura
02:01 Cryo-Dendro Double Aura
04:36 Self Auras
08:06 Aura Decay Rates
10:33 Builds
3.5 Spiral Abyss?

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@davilandin5754
@davilandin5754 Жыл бұрын
Loved the video, but the title was a missed opportunity to be "Electro boogaloo"
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ Жыл бұрын
Gonna change that now lmao thats great. Thanks for the suggestion.
@LordChameleon64
@LordChameleon64 Жыл бұрын
what was the title before?
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ Жыл бұрын
@@LordChameleon64 Electric Boogaloo lol. Electric > Electro turns it into a Genshin version of the meme
@Soundwave1900
@Soundwave1900 Жыл бұрын
Ah, the good old days when Raiden was called "Electric boobalo"
@Shin_Lona
@Shin_Lona Жыл бұрын
Immediately got distracted by this comment and had to restart the video. Much like elemental reactions, real life has priorities. 😆 Well done.
@GuilhermeBortotMusic
@GuilhermeBortotMusic Жыл бұрын
That feels like the real life phenomenon that we are used to but we can't explain exactly how it works. It makes me think that Hoyoverse created a whole new set of natural rules and inserted them in Genshin Impact, and for some reason it feels right. And this guy right here is explaining us how this nature works. Amazing!
@zephskiee5395
@zephskiee5395 Жыл бұрын
dang u missed the Thundering Furry Abomination effect for the self aura one, if u stand in bennett's burst with razor ult active you get constant overload and it is used in a Full EM Razor team called Thundering Furry.
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ Жыл бұрын
That name 😂 that’s a pretty neat use of Razor’s Burst, thanks for sharing!
@Himekocchi
@Himekocchi Жыл бұрын
This video with in depth yet easy to understand analysis of how reaction and elemental application works: *9.4K views* Raiden dancing with cat ears for 5 seconds: *1 million views* Me: 👁👄👁
@zephskiee5395
@zephskiee5395 Жыл бұрын
Zajef explained the same as your interpretation, so it is exactly why its called a fridge team.
@mgr8719
@mgr8719 Жыл бұрын
One trick I found useful with Frozen + Hydro is that you can do Cyro swirl + Hydro infused (Hydro has higher infuse priority) with Kazuha's burst in Ayaka team, making his burst a reliable source of AoE Hydro if you dont have Kokomi. Though you can achieve the same thing by applying hydro on 1 enemy and cyro on another then use Kazuha's burst.
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ Жыл бұрын
Great trick, thanks for sharing!
@JM_Tushe
@JM_Tushe Жыл бұрын
Indeed, my Ayaka rotation in abyss is applying Cryo with Diona's skill, then placing Mona's skill, and proceed with Kazuha's E, that spreads the cryo Aura when going up, but applying hydro when plunging, and then his burst gets infused with Hydro, so when Ayaka takes the field everyone is frozen. 👍
@DoctorQcumber
@DoctorQcumber Жыл бұрын
@@JM_Tushe I'm pretty sure this doesn't work how you describe it. If you're only against a single target, they won't have a hydro aura to infuse Kazuha's plunge unless you do the rotation with 2U hydro shown in the video. If you use something that's 1U like Mona skill and you freeze a unit off of that, it consumes all the hydro, so you need another enemy with hydro on it to infuse Kazuha
@jagadeeshk6652
@jagadeeshk6652 Жыл бұрын
@@DoctorQcumber true, whatever left of the elemental gauge after a reaction is swirled.
@mgr8719
@mgr8719 Жыл бұрын
@@DoctorQcumber You can also have Frozen + Hydro by applying Hydro on already Frozen enemy. Ex: Diona E -> Mona dash, E -> Kazuga Q. Or Diona E -> Barbara N1 E -> Kazuha E. Or if you want to buff Ayaka with ttds, Barbara/Mona E -> (wait 1s for icd) Ayaka dash -> Kazuha Q (Barbara/Mona E should apply hydro again during Kazuha's burst animation)
@Scio_
@Scio_ Жыл бұрын
Can we get a Poise/Stagger and hit-types guide someday? ☺️
@vans2548
@vans2548 Жыл бұрын
If Hero's Wits existed IRL, these vids would be it
@OctaveHigher.
@OctaveHigher. Жыл бұрын
yooooo! Your elemental gauge theory is so good and easy to digest. I've recently been able to make different teams that are outside the known meta or even known teams and just make my own because I learned so much with your lessons, it doesn't feel like I'm just throwing in characters and testing them out, but actually thinking of ways to optimize the teams I've been coming up with! Thank you so much and I hope to learn alot more from you in the future =D
@gingerlove7739
@gingerlove7739 Жыл бұрын
After you watch all of his explanation and videos.. you might get a degree in Masters of Elemental Reaction in Hoyoverse.
@mighuIDV
@mighuIDV Жыл бұрын
i love your videos brah it feels like Khan Academy for genshin
@g.f.joe1385
@g.f.joe1385 Жыл бұрын
Underrated channel. Calm and clear voice, easy to understand and super useful information. Absolutely amazing explanations. Thank you so much for these videos
@KateHamlin
@KateHamlin Жыл бұрын
Between watching these videos and your live stream of the spiral abyss the last few days I have FINALLY for the first time today 36 starred the abyss. Thank you so much for your concise and informative way of sharing data and for being so kind on your live streams. You’re a gem to the Genshin Community 💪 ⭐️
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ Жыл бұрын
Congrats on your first 36-star clear!! 🥳 always such an exciting milestone. Also thank you for your kind words 🙏 comments like these are my life energy lol
@DoctorQcumber
@DoctorQcumber Жыл бұрын
I've been wondering about hydro/cryo double swirl for years. Thanks so much for posting this. I think I'm going to start running Diona over Shenhe so I can replace Xingqiu with Yelan and make the team you showed. I'm guessing it's probably worse damage overall, but it's more skill expression to get the double swirl, so that's fun. Although it's also possible I run Shenhe with Yelan and go for the no heals gigachad team
@knmrt2760
@knmrt2760 Жыл бұрын
Again amazing video ! Thanks for taking the time to make these...
@energyj
@energyj Жыл бұрын
Thank you! You deserve more visibility for this kind of high quality content!
@JM_Tushe
@JM_Tushe Жыл бұрын
I haven't finished it yet but I know it's a banger. 🔥🔥🔥 Thank you for another top tier explanation! 🙏
@infinitereviver
@infinitereviver Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the detailed explanation!
@amphiptered.5355
@amphiptered.5355 Жыл бұрын
Oh, this is my first time hearing of fridge teams. Thanks! I am going to give a fridge team a shot.
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ Жыл бұрын
Good luck! Make sure to give a lot of EM to your Hydro character because they will be the one that triggers most or all of your Blooms, so the Dendro Core explosion damage will be based on their Level and EM.
@domo3858
@domo3858 Жыл бұрын
​@Jyo's Spiral Abyss Guides I always thought that it is the dendro unit that is supposed to create dendro cores like how nilou works. They say to build em on the dendro unit for nilou bloom.
@SunbladeNL
@SunbladeNL Жыл бұрын
@@domo3858 That's when u run triple Hydro and 1 Dendro
@GhostEmblem
@GhostEmblem Жыл бұрын
@@SunbladeNL Hold on a minute. Most off field hydro units (Xinqu, Yelan and Nilou) apply tons of hydro really quickly as a result they should end up being the aura not the trigger even if they are alone with only the first attack having them as the trigger and all subsequent attacks having them as the aura. If I'm missing something please explain.
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ Жыл бұрын
@@GhostEmblem In a regular Bloom team (such as Nilou teams) thats the case. But with Fridge teams, you have that extra Cryo aura to burn through which “protects” the Dendro aura. When you combine this with the fact that Hydro Bloom is a low-cost “reverse” Bloom, Dendro is usually the one that survives as the aura, even if you have a lot of Hydro application. As a result, Hydro will usually be the triggering Element which generates the Dendro Cores.
@Scio_
@Scio_ Жыл бұрын
And now we have the most complete most accessible Gauge Theory resource on the entire internet!
@amorimjt
@amorimjt Жыл бұрын
This was amazing!
@Kasraken
@Kasraken Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining this!
@Chronos445
@Chronos445 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@kasuha
@kasuha Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I wish it was possible to see these gauges directly in the game, even if for just the one enemy we're targeting.
@googlrscholar
@googlrscholar Жыл бұрын
actually, yes thats exactly why it was called fridge. it was mr zachef who coined it iirc
@bagohehe969
@bagohehe969 Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to share some Genshin x League facts for u crackheads out there The name Morgana in Ganyu’s freeze team is named after a champion that locks/binds people in place for so long that you end up being frozen in place and die. You will live through your whole life not ending up moving. Sunfire cape is after an item that burns nearby surrounding enemies I dont know any other facts, so if you have something SHARE IT 👽🫳
@alexyz9430
@alexyz9430 Жыл бұрын
The fact that they updated the Pyro decay rate as of 3.0 means that they're aware of decay rate inheritance. But then, why only patch it for Pyro? Is it to fine-tune Burning?
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ Жыл бұрын
That was my thought as well. Burning reactions apply a 2U Burning aura, so maybe there was some edge case where Burning could last longer than expected if applied on top of a 1U Pyro aura. The Burning aura is distinct from a Pyro aura, so this may not be the exact reason, but maybe something related.
@robertoalexandermendezmore408
@robertoalexandermendezmore408 Жыл бұрын
​​@@jyolikearock_ i mean burning was nerfed, used to aplay 2U every 0.5s and now aplay 1U every 2s, so is kinda a mix bag or a over all nerf?
@sadmansadat
@sadmansadat Жыл бұрын
Yep. That's exactly why it's called Fridge Team.
@ozwizardx5737
@ozwizardx5737 Жыл бұрын
I feel glad to be the first few people to see this
@MEGADETHxSOAD
@MEGADETHxSOAD Жыл бұрын
Now I too can be a big brain player
@0rganic0live0il2
@0rganic0live0il2 Жыл бұрын
lol i knew the meme reason behind the fridge term but not the technical reason
@SnaMProd
@SnaMProd Жыл бұрын
Watched first video. Please heart my comment so tomorrow I can check the notification and watch this too instesd of forgetting and just looking around be like "what do I do now on my free time". Much love!
@ajgonerogue
@ajgonerogue Жыл бұрын
Wow amazing video I really want to see the builds
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ Жыл бұрын
You can see the builds at the end of the video
@JM_Tushe
@JM_Tushe Жыл бұрын
@@jyolikearock_ Enka Network is very versatile. 💪
@kasso1233
@kasso1233 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile I go unga bunga with my team
@thefunnyrocket.8141
@thefunnyrocket.8141 Жыл бұрын
NOTED
@Zstriker16
@Zstriker16 Жыл бұрын
should talk about the mintachurl's axe xD
@MrZauberwuerfel
@MrZauberwuerfel Жыл бұрын
These videos made me appreciate electro-charged a lot more. But I am still missing some information for tazer teams. How many units does the aoe of swirl reactions apply? Does the anemo characters EM determine the damage for the subsequent electro-charge reaction?
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ Жыл бұрын
Great question! The GU applied by the Elemental damage from a Swirl reaction is actually somewhat complicated and determined by this formula: genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Elemental_Gauge_Theory/Advanced_Aura_Mechanics#Swirl_Application_Gauges In MOST cases, this comes out to about 2 GU (actually 2.2 GU), but in some rare cases it can apply even up to 3.5 GU (if you apply a 2U Anemo attack to a 1.6U aura). This is why, in general, Swirls deal so much damage to shields, since most of these Swirls-induced hits are applying 2+ GU.
@juzztanium
@juzztanium Жыл бұрын
True Spantamad researcher
@max_ishere
@max_ishere Жыл бұрын
My way of clearing content is to do the least work. E.g. sprint to the quest location guarded by monsters and click the button before the combat is triggered. Will watch this regardless since someone need some Xianling real bad
@deempay
@deempay Жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always. Just a comment to boost algorithm(?).
@dan4455
@dan4455 Жыл бұрын
Bro how do u get the meter animation in a vid? Also nice way to breakdown tc for majority👏👍
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ Жыл бұрын
I make the animated, decaying gauge bars for each Element as separate videos, and then overlay them on top of my Genshin clips. I time them to appear on the frames where the Elemental auras are being applied. Each time some of the gauge is consumed, I cut forward to the appropriate point in the gauge clip, based on how much of the gauge was consumed. I repeat this process every time an aura is applied/refreshed or consumed in the Genshin clips.
@YT-jg3kz
@YT-jg3kz Жыл бұрын
You can still get hydro-freeze double swirl with two consecutive hydro after a cryo application. Like Kaeya+childeEa
@NotNXTr
@NotNXTr Жыл бұрын
I didn't know about the reaction priority of Dendro+Cryo until now. If Superconduct takes priority over Quicken, then as long as the Cryo aura on enemy is lower than 1U, any 1U electro application (esp slow ones like Kuki/Raiden's E) afterward will trigger both Superconduct and Quicken am I right? I was wondering, if I can run C2 Nahida in Eula team. Her C2 Def shred + Phys res debuff from Superconduct can really help, plus Nahida herself can still do decent damage from Spread so it's not a team damage loss.
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ Жыл бұрын
That’s a pretty interesting idea, I think it could work!
@flyingzambie1201
@flyingzambie1201 Жыл бұрын
Yes, this is why there exist a meme saying that eula’s best constellation is nahida’s c2.
@marior3164
@marior3164 2 күн бұрын
What happens when swirl is created on us with a character who has Viridescent Venerer?
@spheal608
@spheal608 Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe they call that pyro swirl aura the Sunfire effect (like sunfire cape from league of legends) Gaming crossovers are wild
@ramza8355
@ramza8355 Жыл бұрын
Again nice video, i have a suggestion to make a video about how elemental mastery contribute to damage. You can even make a video about how each stat matter in the game
@RatchR
@RatchR Жыл бұрын
In regards to the Hydro frozen aura, since Pyro and electro only react with the frozen aura, does the underlying Hydro also get consumed still?
@gading5797
@gading5797 Жыл бұрын
question. if you self-swirl with jean, do you debuff your resistance with vv ??. let say you got affected with cryo againts the cryo kenki and you cleansed it with jean, does the next of the kenki attack do more dmg?
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ Жыл бұрын
Good question! Nope, the VV debuff applies to enemies only. “Decreases *opponent’s* Elemental RES to the element infused in the Swirl by 40% for 10s.”
@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash
@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash Жыл бұрын
comment for the algorithm
@zyfryth
@zyfryth Жыл бұрын
Uhm, this is not really related, but it is still a question about mechanics. Is stamina regeneration put on hold during elemental burst animations, or does it keep going during the animation? If stamina recharges during ult animation, then characters with longer ult animations will give exponentially higher ammount of i-frames...
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ Жыл бұрын
I believe stamina continues to regenerate through the Burst animation
@m.ridzwan99-26
@m.ridzwan99-26 Жыл бұрын
Ah this why those two beast in chamber 2 deal so much damage. Pyro+electro
@DoctorQcumber
@DoctorQcumber Жыл бұрын
Okay, I found something weird that doesn't make sense to me. You can double swirl with Chongyun (2U cryo skill) and Xingqiu (1U hydro anything) hydro on a single enemy, but not Ayaka (2U cryo skill) and Xingqiu (1U hydro anything). Ayaka follows the rules in this video, but Chongyun just doesn't, unless I'm missing something.
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ Жыл бұрын
In this case, Hydro is being used as the trigger Element, NOT the aura Element. After the Freeze reaction occurs, you are simply left with some remainder of Ayaka's 2U Cryo aura, and the new Freeze aura. Nowhere in the process is there a Hydro aura being applied. You must start with a 2U Hydro aura and trigger a Freeze with a 1U Cryo trigger. This is the only way that allows some of the original Hydro aura to remain and coexist with the Freeze aura. Note that Xingqiu's Skill hits two times and doesn't have an ICD, and his floating Rainswords also can apply Hydro. So even though it's documented as a 1U attack, it can actually consume a 2U Cryo aura almost instantly, resulting in just the Freeze aura. It's unexpected to me that Chongyun S > Xingqiu S could set up a double aura. Let me try to figure out what's going on.
@mgr8719
@mgr8719 Жыл бұрын
@@jyolikearock_ I think you get it wrong here, Frozen can co-exist with Hydro/Cyro in 2 cases: first case is leftover aura as you mentioned, second case is applying Hydro/Cyro on enemy who is already Frozen. Yes, Cyro can co-exist with Frozen. If you apply Hydro on an enemy with Frozen + Cyro, you get Frozen only (if there's no leftover aura). Same thing happens when applying Cyro on enemy with Frozen + Hydro. So I guess what happened is that they got hydro as aura and then cyro as trigger, then applied hydro again.
@DoctorQcumber
@DoctorQcumber Жыл бұрын
@@mgr8719 After a bunch of testing, I'm pretty sure you're spot on with this. The reason people don't get double swirls by applying hydro after frozen is because they're applying cryo aura on top of frozen. If you apply hydro aura instead of cryo after frozen, you are able to double swirl, but you need some 2U anemo like Kazuha hold skill to eat through the entire frozen aura and reach the hydro aura. If you apply the 2U hydro before frozen, you're able to double swirl with just 1U anemo, I guess because it swirls hydro first in this case. Thanks for the info!
@mgr8719
@mgr8719 Жыл бұрын
@@DoctorQcumber You're welcome! Although one thing you wrong here is that Anemo doesnt eat Frozen aura first. It always swirl the Hydro first, then if there's any Anemo gauge left, it will swirl Frozen.
@DoctorQcumber
@DoctorQcumber Жыл бұрын
@@mgr8719 yes, I see that you're right, but then I'm not sure why you can't get a double swirl with 1U anemo. Why wouldn't your hydro aura alongside frozen immediately dip below 1U, allowing you to consume it and swirl frozen as well?
@ghostblob8283
@ghostblob8283 Жыл бұрын
Where can I find the gauge amount chart?
@jyolikearock_
@jyolikearock_ Жыл бұрын
You can find the full dataset here: genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Elemental_Gauge_Theory/Character_Data I’ve also just added it to the video description
@ghostblob8283
@ghostblob8283 Жыл бұрын
@@jyolikearock_ thanks :D
@lies_v1
@lies_v1 Жыл бұрын
zachef somehow still got here 💀
@michaelsama716
@michaelsama716 Жыл бұрын
lower the volume of the game when u speak, ayaka was speaking over u
@lordfriedhelm3320
@lordfriedhelm3320 Жыл бұрын
good stuff but still no endgame to use this knowledge
@Charlie-hv3dh
@Charlie-hv3dh Жыл бұрын
LAughs in silly Klee, Raiden, Fischl, Bennett genshin player
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