Viewers should contact K&N customer relations and ask if the Glue Job is the norm
@WhipCityWrencher2 жыл бұрын
I'm with you, I called them in the past and they told me that some of their filters were made by Champ Labs but the guy said he didn't know which ones. I'll pin your comment maybe more folks will call them.
@not12listen Жыл бұрын
I posted on their website asking why they don't show the efficiency at any micron rating compared to other manufacturers... Zero response. Weird... Its like they rely upon reputation only, instead of making a factually demonstrated good product.
@John115Yonkers2 жыл бұрын
WixXP/Napa all the way. I do like in let holes on the KN. But the wix is better. Fully synthetic and bigger holes on the core. 😊
@ChicagoRob22 жыл бұрын
Really surprised at K&N’s sloppy construction. Even a cheap Supertech is far superior.
@bradleypetersen2412 жыл бұрын
I have used super tech for few years always been good to me
@danhambrick63312 жыл бұрын
To be honest,I like the Wix better....💪
@faxmen092 жыл бұрын
Between the two, no doubt! That said, there's other choices out there that offer better value and equivalent or better efficiency.
@bluetsunami40052 жыл бұрын
I like the Wix better. I like the deeper pleats rather than a higher number of pleats
@Zeyek12 жыл бұрын
only youtuber who really goes into depth about car parts keep up the good work
@WhipCityWrencher2 жыл бұрын
Thank You!👍
@jonathannance50862 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete! Also, nice to see K&N hiring kindergarten kids to glue their filters🤫 I do like the inlet holes on the K&N. Both could use some work on transparency of their filtration numbers. NAPA for the win on this comparison.
@WhipCityWrencher2 жыл бұрын
LOL, Hi Jonathan, Thanks!
@theezeelife2922 жыл бұрын
I've used both and between the two, I'd go with K&N, but just barely. The main reason is that its made here in the USA. The only real turnoff is the sloppy construction of the filter media. The Wix is nice, but I really like to use American made products whenever possible.
@jeffu.8053 Жыл бұрын
The WIX 51334XP filters I bought on Amazon last week were made in the USA.
@Iowa5992 жыл бұрын
The WIX seal is a "P ring", like Honda OE filters. It's done so the seal doesn't stick to the engine.
@davidsacco4860 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information. I always wondered who came up with the "P" ring design.
@Eduardo_Espinoza Жыл бұрын
True, double-seal can ruin an engine.
@Spartan536 Жыл бұрын
The WIX XP took this one, and they come highly recommended as well. If you are doing oil changes every 3K-5K miles I do not see any issues with the WIX XP having 1/2 the pleats, the construction seems to be top notch.
@kbeg1322 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Really surprised at the K&N sloppy construction especially for the price. Have a nice weekend!
@WhipCityWrencher2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, K Beg, Have a Nice weekend also!
@Jimmy-sj9ny11 ай бұрын
The K&N IS a SuperTech MP. It is made by Champion Labs to the same specs as the better grade SuperTech filter.
@faxmen092 жыл бұрын
One can't directly compare K&N media area to XP media. K&N cellulose blend is surface(area) media, XP full synthetic is "depth" media. The XP made by M&H is similar to the Hyun/Kia oem, except it uses synthetic media. Same country of origin. Between the two, XP ftw. But, I would buy and use the equivalent Super Tech MP9688 for $6 before either of these. The K&N made by Champ, looks especially sloppy. Thanks for vid.
@WhipCityWrencher2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Your Welcome Faxmen09!
@bradhelfrich6602 Жыл бұрын
Wix XP is the winner Pete, K&N is livin' on a name, they're losing in quality Control.
@angrygaragemechanic2 жыл бұрын
If the XP had better filtering specs, I'd use it. Until then I'll be a Purolator One or Boss user.
@justanobserver5302 жыл бұрын
Just by the sloppy glue job of the K&N, I would go with the wix. I would prefer the higher bypass pressure but sloppiness tends to be in one place one time and somewhere else the next.
@scottymoondogjakubin47662 жыл бұрын
I was never a fan of KN not even there air filters or the cost ! the wix XP is the better filter for the $ and alot cleaner ! Great video !
@WhipCityWrencher2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Scotty!
@SlikLizrd2 жыл бұрын
Good morning to ya, Whip !! The backing on the Wix XP is a polymer. Plastics are polymers, and both of 'em melt, but "plastic" sounds cheesy -- and "polymer" sounds more like we know what we're talking about. 😁 K&N has the nut. K&N has many holes in base plate for more even flow. K&N Made in U.S.A. K&N has better gasket design. K&N has most surface area. K&N has stronger glued seam. K&N has thicker can-- higher burst pressure. Wix XP has cleaner construction. Wix XP has Polymer backing. Wix XP has black color for cooling. Wix XP Made in South Korea. BOTH are too-high-priced compared to the competition. Feature for feature, the K&N takes the win -- BUT -- NEITHER of these oil filters have a Micron Rating printed on the box, so BOTH are UNACCEPTABLE for use in a properly-maintained vehicle. Both the Fram Ultra (China) and the Bosch Premium (USA) are better filters for less money.
@WhipCityWrencher2 жыл бұрын
👍
@robertdonadee98605 ай бұрын
I wouldn't use a Fram filter under any circumstances on my vehicle.
@SlikLizrd5 ай бұрын
OK. You have my permission to use whichever Oil Filter Brand that suits your fancy.😁@@robertdonadee9860
@cyclonebuzz81722 жыл бұрын
FYI to the best of my knowledge K&N doesn't make their own oil filters. They sub contract the manufacturing to other companies. Their old style ford filter the last time I looked was made in Mexico. They don't make their powersports filters either because Hi-flo makes the oil filters for k&n. So you can get a k&n oil filter for almost half the price by just buying the Hi-flo. Beware of k&n oil filters for motorcycles because a few years back k&n switched to having the filters made in China. After like a year and people's motors locking up k&n switched back to having hi-flo make thier filters. The hi-flos are make in Thailand and have ** next to the part number. The Chinese k&n are still in circulation so make sure to check the box.
@WhipCityWrencher2 жыл бұрын
Check out the pinned comment.
@bigjim55512122 жыл бұрын
You can tell that kn is not being made at the air filter factory. I would look at others first.
@SimpleTastyFood20242 жыл бұрын
The K&N is definitely sloppy with the glue. I would go with the Wix filter. TFS Pete. Have a great weekend kind friend. Merri :)
@WhipCityWrencher2 жыл бұрын
Hi Merri, Thank You! Have a Great weekend too!
@budblack35882 жыл бұрын
I choose Wix, it has a better media and it is well made, clean, with no excess glue, the K&N is just a generic Champ lab filter and their quality is horrible! just wondering Whip, what is your favorite filter lately?
@WhipCityWrencher2 жыл бұрын
Hi, bud, I like the Purolator Boss, It could be me but my vehicle's oil pressure seems to run slightly higher than it had with the Fram Ultra, seems to be running quieter too. For my oil filter size, the inlet holes are bigger on the Boss. Both are good oil filters though.
@budblack35882 жыл бұрын
@@WhipCityWrencher very interesting thanks a lot I appreciate .
@johnqpublic2949 Жыл бұрын
Wix has those deeper pleats, and a full synthetic media..But both are fine filters, they better be for $15 a pop...They are tremendously better than probably 2/3 of the cars filters on the road, I'd imagine. It seems most people go to the Quick Lube or local mechanics these days...And those are basic fleet bulk purchase filters...So either of these blow them away...Great Video full of true info from your tear down of these...Thanx
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
Hi John. You're Welcome! Thanks!
@brensdaman926 Жыл бұрын
Wix has been making filters for a long time so they know what they're doing in that regard. I've also gotten Wix filters cheaper online than Napa gold so its a win-win
@johng.49592 жыл бұрын
I'm having a hard time liking either of these filters. Even though I've been a big WIX fan over the years, I feel they have declined also. How about a Napa Gold/O'Reilly Microgard shootout?
@charliedc2A2 жыл бұрын
They both where made by wix at one time, not sure about now
@WhipCityWrencher2 жыл бұрын
I have a Microgard vs Microgard Select next Friday, I'll have to open another Gold sometime soon.
@bobwadsworth47992 жыл бұрын
@@WhipCityWrencher Great. I'll be looking forward to that comparison between the two Microgards as I use both.
@dennywires2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud great video,, wix found a solution to their filter problem send them overseas for manufacturing. Wix looks great made in South Korea. Kn still a decent filter however both priced on the high side.
@SlikLizrd2 жыл бұрын
BOSCH Premium -- 20 Micron rating -- made in U.S.A. 💪
@Gary7even2 жыл бұрын
K&N looks like a Fram from the baseplate.
@SlikLizrd2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a Motorcraft from across the street.
@duesa22039 ай бұрын
That’s crazy. If that was k&n filter was made in America I can’t imagine the k&n filter that was made in Mexico THAT I use for my g35. QC is ass. I’m definitely switching to Mobil one or wix depends if I see anything inside the filter with weird stains or marks
@dbrandon4528 Жыл бұрын
KN is the same as the Walmart super tech. Wix Xp is only filter I use.
@jeffu.8053 Жыл бұрын
I just bought two of these WIX XP filters last week on Amazon. The ones I got were made in the USA. Neither of them had a date code printed on the canister though.
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
They do a lousy job when they print the date code on these, maybe it rubbed off any sign of any print on the dome end?
@jeffu.8053 Жыл бұрын
@@WhipCityWrencher That's where I looked for the code but there's no marking at all. The filters I bought last year from RockAuto were also made in the USA and had very legible date codes on them from 2021.
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
@@jeffu.8053I haven't heard of any fake Wix filters being made. I dont know what to tell you, a lot of strange things with oil filters these days some have nitrile rubber anti-drain back valves (Fram Extra Guard) when they are supposed to be silicone."No explanation?" Probably just an error on their part and they didn't catch it or don't even care.
@WrenchingMafia2 жыл бұрын
Great video I love it..
@WhipCityWrencher2 жыл бұрын
Thank You!👍
@boskiles23692 ай бұрын
Missed one 👍
@dennisgreiwe2078 Жыл бұрын
Care to elaborate on the Wix's crimp bar falling apart/not being installed very well when you took the media out? That seam seems a bit sloppy too. Always wondered about that. I can't imagine more ways to connect the two ends together but the worry of a metal crimp bar not being properly installed makes me think I'd rather have the glue type. However, it seems that all high grade (synthetic/thicker) media is all held together with crimp bars. Napa platinum to name one other... Obviously glue is much more messy during manufacturing process and may not give a good "seal" either. But how does one see the crimp bar and the precision of manufacture when purchasing brand new? We can't open the can up and inspect the crimp and then use that same filter.. I hate being a car nut.
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
I bend them a bit when before I cut the filter open. Sometimes they stay together sometimes they fall apart, but when they are in place they are glued to the endcaps also I dont think they would come apart. Here's a video on how I cut them open you'll see what I mean. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aNB_fKlz2NereH0.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
@davidsacco4860 Жыл бұрын
Just about every K&N filter I have cut open has the same sloppy glue job. The K&N looks like some Champ filters inside. The bypass valve and the base plate almost look the same. The Wix looks very similar to a Premium Guard filter I cut open which was also made in South Korea. The bypass valve and the center core look identical. I wonder if there is common manufacturer in South Korea for both of them.
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
I called K&N a few weeks ago and they told me that some of their oil filters were made by Champ Labs.
@opera932 жыл бұрын
Thanks, good observations, & work:: interestingly, it can be “interesting “ as to Engine(s) &/or Manufacturer the Filters fit………
@haac48253 ай бұрын
WIX the Winner. Surprised how sloppy the glue on the KN oil filter. No wonder Amsoil only sell Amsoil and Wix filters there one of the Best ones.
@Ryan-fb1ot7 ай бұрын
MERICA DUDE #1 always lol
@adkfoothills1973 Жыл бұрын
That sloppy construction on the K&N is ridiculous. I've noticed that some of the sloppiest construction comes on some of the (supposedly) high end filters made right here in the USA. Do you agree, and are you surprised by this as well?
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
Thanks!, Yes, I noticed it and I'm really not surprised because $ is everything. Just my opinion but I've noticed this at places that I've worked at over the years. In my area, a lot of companies shut down and left. Manufacturers are putting out lousy products because the machines are probably outdated and usually run with not enough workers/maintenance to make a quality product. They dont want to put money into jobs/machinery here because they can make the same product in another country for a lot less and make more of a profit. I could be wrong but basically, I think that's what going on. Also, the Government raising taxes on these companies doesn't help either. It's a fact, companies are out to make as much $ as they can.JMHO
@adkfoothills1973 Жыл бұрын
@@WhipCityWrencher Great explanation, Whip and I agree with you. It's a shame, when you think about it. Once again, thanks for doing these videos, no doubt you've helped out many of us and I enjoy watching them.
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
@@adkfoothills1973 Thanks Adk! Glad you like the videos, I appreciate it.😊
@BamaTidefan19672 жыл бұрын
South Korea? That's a new one. Wix used to be made in the USA, a few years ago they started making the cheaper versions in China and Mexico. Korea is OK , Mexico is OK but I would rather not buy from China if I have a choice.
@Gary7even2 жыл бұрын
I think when Mann & Hummel purchased Wix they started labeling filters from outside the US as WIx that would otherwise be a Mann or Hummel filter. I'd be willing to bet that is the case here. Nothing about this filter looks like a traditional US-made Wix, except for maybe the media. It looks more like a Mann filter.
@daewooparts2 жыл бұрын
Actually the head management of Mann&Hummel USA ,is now running the operations at Mann & Hummel Korea...they took the management as well, they been manufacturing OEM filters in Korea for GM & Mobis(Hyundai KIA) for about 2 decades
@BamaTidefan19672 жыл бұрын
@@daewooparts No problems with South Korea at all! They have some of the most beautiful women in Asia.
@daewooparts2 жыл бұрын
The WIX is actually made by the OEM manufacturer Mann& Hummel Korea, that makes the OEM filters for GM Korea & Hyundai KIA Mobis, this time I'll go with the WIX as that K&N is sloppy inside 🤣
@kruelzombieful2 жыл бұрын
Huh I though the Wix filters were made in Mexico. That is a nice looking Wix filter.
@WhipCityWrencher2 жыл бұрын
Seems they are making them all over. I opened a Regular Wix the other day and it said it was made here in the USA. Thanks for the feedback!
@albertvela87122 жыл бұрын
Are Wix Pro Tec good? Thanks for keeping us informed.
@WhipCityWrencher2 жыл бұрын
Hi Albert, Not really, they are the same as the Napa Proselect. I would take a Supertech MP filter over them. Check out these videos. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gqqZo5aU19OZgac.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hZx-adWol9XIk6c.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hMqZpJygqdKwkas.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
@not12listen Жыл бұрын
K&N refuses to show factual data in terms of micron ratings for their filters (air or oil). I spent quite a bit of time looking for it, even on their own website, it is nowhere to be found other than '99%' but not giving any detail at what micron rating. If its 99% at 40 micron, and another is 99% at 30 micron, that factually demonstrates that the K&N is worse at filtration. I've been a die hard AMSOil filter guy for the past 10 years. But, once I started reading and found the Fram Ultra Synthetic (better filtration at every level & lower cost), I switched. The same goes for oil. AMSOil only for the past 10 years... Then found out about Pennzoil Ultra Platinum - virtually identical in every way to AMSOil, but half the price... I switched.
@joefratianni8693 Жыл бұрын
After watching Project Farm's oil testing either oil is a good choice. For me, its Amsoil is in my brand new vehicle because the lubricity and TBN rating are the best of all. My older used cars all use Pennzoil.
@jonallen1985 Жыл бұрын
Have you done a video like that with STP oil filters?
@SlikLizrd2 жыл бұрын
K&N has a cleaner Silicone ADBV. K&N has Fram-type Retainer, with combo Pressure-Relief Valve. K&N has too-thick base plate. Not environmentally-friendly. Wix XP has plastic covering. Wix XP has hidden date code -- useless for purchaser.
@Andrew__Smith2 жыл бұрын
Both of them is a CRAP 💩... overpriced crap...
@MatrixDiscovery Жыл бұрын
I used K&N once, noticed it was not doing a good job compared to OEM or FRAM. Never use K%N.
@daniellang611210 ай бұрын
WIX
@jamescaron6465 Жыл бұрын
That mesh looks like it is made of fiberglass
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
I believe it's some kind of synthetic/nylon material. To me it looks like plastic, lol
@bradleypetersen2412 жыл бұрын
Get the end caps with paper won't be dealing with glue
@John115Yonkers2 жыл бұрын
What car the fit??
@WhipCityWrencher2 жыл бұрын
It fits a lot of cars one being a 2000 Honda CRV.
@SeeYouInHellDad8 ай бұрын
Pause at 10:42 What tool is that?
@WhipCityWrencher7 ай бұрын
It's a thickness gauge. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D1JCPWM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
@SeeYouInHellDad7 ай бұрын
@@WhipCityWrencher thank you, how does it work out for you? I wanna get into cutting oil filters and ensuring them out
@WhipCityWrencher7 ай бұрын
@@SeeYouInHellDad I like it for measuring filter material. I think it's much more accurate than calipers
@SeeYouInHellDad7 ай бұрын
@@WhipCityWrencher one last question, sorry to keep asking. When you cut the filters. How do you cut them to get a proper length and width? A simple hand saw? Thank you for answering all my questions
@WhipCityWrencher7 ай бұрын
@@SeeYouInHellDad If you watch my used filter videos you'll see how I open them up, here is one. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mLh-dpOk1sCdeZs.html