isn’t HAEWON one of the best aces kpop has ever had? that girl can even act, mc, speak 4 fluent languages,sign language, top of her class and top jyp trainee,most loved jyp trainee,composer, comedian, main vocalist, main dancer material, stage precense, visuals WOW

Haewon is actually so underrated in terms of vocal outside the vocal analysis community honestly hardly anyone knows she is that good and I think after lily is mentioned everybody forgets about her

aespa and NMIXX really brought up 4th gen's vocal reputation.

The fact that NMIXX Haewon and Lily are both top 2 best vocalist in this generation despite them still being so young is incredible! Both Haewon and Lily are 19 (Lily is turning 20 in October) Even Kyujin, Bae, Jiwoo, Sullyoon, and Jinni are still pretty good vocalists as well! I cant wait for their next comeback! 😊

aespa having all in Top 20 and NMIXX having the Top 2, æmixx saving 4th gen vocals 😍

Putting lily and haewon in the same team is just wow!

I'm so happy that we all agree that Lily deserves the top 1 vocalist in 4th gen. Also Haewon comes 2nd, I mean theyve already proven everything during their live performance. All NMIXX members being on the list is just chefs kiss

7/7 nmixx and 4/4 æspa are here. Vocal leaders

As expected, all NMIXX members are on the list with two of the members claiming the top 2 spots while the rest are still in their respected ranks despite some members being sub-vocalists which is truly impressive. You were right when you said no other group comes close in the 4th gen 👏🏼 (P.S. I just wish we had more materials from them or from 4th gen groups in general lol)

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think nmixx has the best sense of pitch among the 4th gen girl group vocalists or maybe 4th gen kpop groups overall. Nonetheless, they are indeed the backbone of 4th gen kpop vocals.

Never been so excited with a vocal duo since Taeyeon and Jessica, Lily and Haewon are on fire

For Nswer 34.Bae 29.Jiwoo 25.Jinni 23.Sullyoon 21.Kyujin 2.Haewon 1.Lily

I honestly would love to see Æspa X Nmixx vocal stage collaboration one day :(

JYPE: Here is TWICE Haters: They can't sing live. JYPE: Here is ITZY Haters: They can't sing well. JYPE: Here is NMIXX Haters: They are not from SM, so they can't sing well. JYPE: merging with SM (x

*guys!* well at least those whose come here daily

NMIXX VOCALS ARE CRAZY

Finally someone made a video containing the facts that nmixx and Lily and haewon are the monster vocals for this generation. It is obviously “THEM”

NMIXX BEST VOCAL 🔥

I am glad that lily choose jyp instead of yg even when yg at that time was doing way better in terms of market lily would never have lived upto her full potential if she went to yg jyp gave her so many opportunities she went to la and New York to learn more about vocals and met her perfect match in haewon

if nmixx excludes lily and haewon in their group, they will still be a group with decent vocalist right? damn adding lily and haewon to the group is really too powerful

LILY M BEST 4TH GEN. FEMALE MAIN VOCALIST

Really Haewon and Lily topnotches the vocal category. Putting this two together is an overkill and sets them apart in the other groups.

Really like with Jiwoo nmixx unique vocals.. nmixx all rounder

Having 2 decent vocalists in 1 group...JYPE hit the jackpot

Not all aespa and nmixx members being here💅 These two groups have such an amazing lineup

Nmixx is giving me so much Exo vibe 😆

Hiiiii, how are you doing? I have some questions: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zrx5pcyC35qZj6s.html 0:52 (shiGE) 1:08 The first one is a G#4, I think it's supported, but would you give the G4 in 1:08 a pass? I think it has some minimal support but not sure if it's enough. She's weaker and more inconsistent than what I thought before looking more carefully into her content, I put her at 44th in this list, between Yoon and Sieun

Nmixx and aespa supremacy

i’m so glad chaein is better than originally thought because i’ve always loved her voice!

Mindblown 😭 These are some really unexpected rankings

All of purple kisses main vocals r in the top 20 Chaein-18 Swan-17 Goeun-8 And can we talk about swan in the thumbnail she looks absolutely stunning

Nmixx main vocalists being top 2 is crazy

woah kyujin is ranked higher than sullyoon? Girlie improved so much, so proud of her 😭❤️

Unpopular opinion I like the singing style of bae and lia with bae yeah she has alot of throat tension but her voice fits with nmixx concept she sings in cursive if I am not wrong ok she can loose that throat but retain her stylistic singing With lia I absolutely love her voice her English covers are always so good if I am not wrong she also sings in cursive and honestly she should try singing indie songs like lana del Rey she will nail it

NMIXX on top A rookie gg did that

All æspa member in TOP 20 👏 NMIXX's Main Vocalist save the TOP 2 👏 æMIXX really save the this generation's VOCAL ❤️❤️❤️

Ugh whatever I'm just not gonna put the link. Lily sang on Vlive today and her tone is seriously to die for, especially when she sings western songs. I think she does better when she sings in English. She sang a bit of Party in the USA and I think she gave her best G3~A3 so far there. Consistent head voice and mixed D5's as usual.

Nmixx is this crazy being just a rookie i cant imagine the power they will hold after 1-2 yrs experience in industry like im just excited to be part of their journey

omg, an updated ranking finally 😁

I know that Lily and Haewon is up there, I just know. I really want JYPE and SQU4D to release more contents of them singing and give us a comeback that suits the girls vocal range. I really can't wait for Lily and Haewon's improvement since Haewon is moving up. I really think that they should push Kyujin and Jiwoo to be lead vocalists. Bae is ok but her being a stylistic vocalists is not my thing, she's more on throaty but she's really good with her lows. Sullyoon kinda gets nasally or ist it just me??? Anyway, proud to see NMIXX having support eventhough 2 of them are shallow. Still waiting for NMIXX's upgrade since they're in their prime vocal era😂♥️

I agree with this ranking. Especially after hearing Giselle in their new performances. I think it would be cool if you added Seea (Pink Fantasy) to the next one though. She is better than most people on the list even if she is overshadowed by Yechan.

THE STRONGEST VOCAL DUO IN THE 4TH GEN ARE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST?!! LETS GOOOOO!!!!! SLAY GIRLIES!!

I need duo lily and haewon stage performance as an idol not as a wedding singer

hope sootzubae adds JYP in the future weekly update. He can produce resonance down to -G3 and produce whistle tones up to F32. His agility is also really good, he can run up to 32 notes in 0 seconds, he's just that good and fast. He also doesn't shout his notes like Lily ☠☠

its funny seeing stans (especially gidle stans) swear their group are the best vocalists of the generation 🥴

The HAEvenLY Vocal Duo of 4th Gen

Little cliff notes: - The singers in rank 49-42 are all Non-vocalist singers, their rank is pretty much interchangeable and it really doesn't matter as their technique in general is just too inconsistent and support quality is shallower than a kiddie pool. - The point above also applies to singers in ranks 41-31, theyre in weak tier and all interchangeable. - In general the rankings and given tiers all really do NOT matter. The most important part about these videos is the analysis and a real discussion on the technique of these singers. Some of you look too much into rankings that you're willing to forgive very clear issues and technicalities for the sake of trying to keep up with a ranking or underestimate so many of these perfectly capable IDOL SINGERS because of their ranking. And these rankings are literally made by kpop fans, in theory you can literally make your own ranking system, its just THAT unimportant. Personal cliff notes: - I agree Ningning's performances haven't been the strongest as we'd assume but I don't think it's enough to question her consistency just yet. Personally I don't hear anything much different because in her B4~C#5 range. Her support quality has always just been "passable" and its literally just that, soft, heady and light in coordination. It's just that it's more apparent now because they don't have a loud backtrack/prerecorded track drowning out her voice in recent live performances. Her performances in general sound literally exactly the same as before (Ningning in Jimmy Kimmel live & both days of the LA showcases are all light and soft in approach just like in radio interviews, encores, etc.) so I really don't notice the "stark" difference that makes her ranking "questionable" as some of you guys are mentioning. If she truly shows something different, whether we did end up overestimating her or she actually presents something stronger in the upcoming comeback, I'll stand by this. #NingningforPresident - I'm open to the idea of Giselle having the slight edge over Karina cuz I do agree she has some clean, strong notes even up to Bb4, but I think we need to give more time for Giselle to actually start singing some more challenging lines live to make something like that set in stone. In general, we're a bit too hasty with ranking and analyzing singers and it's causing some huge confusion and misinformation to spread. One of the established rules of KVA (the system all of us are kinda using rn) was to not analyze newly debuted idols and atleast wait a few YEARS (not months y'all, years😭😭) to properly get enough content to analyze. My suggestion really is to remove like half of these girlies of the ranking and focus on the singers with enough content and/or WAIT a bit longer before we start putting ppl in rankings.

I liked Sneakers way more than I thought. The teasers really turned me off for a moment but it ended up being good. I liked how Lia's voice sounded in the song the most.

I'm addicted to kyujin singing peaches

Ngl, but PK's Swan's tone is really good. I'm a big fan of her tone

Hello! Can you do a video of Nmixx Haewon vocal range? She's kinda getting overshadowed by Lily even though they're not far apart. So..

As a MY, I'm rooting for Ning's improvements. I'm 110% sure she's capable of doing more than she's shown but I hope SME will give Aespa more live material this comeback. Her lows are amazing, her mix can improve and she has potential to support upper register.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gp-Zfa121NXVmn0.html#t=1m14s kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sMl3nNR2pt_MiJ8.html#t=0m37s Recent singing materials from Nayeon that i just wanted to share :P

NMIXX 34. BAE 29. JIWOO 25. JINNI 23. SULLYOON 21. KYUJIN 2. HAEWON 1. LILY OMG ALL NMIXX ARE HERE

I'm a hardcore Plory and I didn't expect to see the Purki girls that high 😯 Slayy

Nmixx never stop singing live. That's the most important to develop your singing skill. Confident is a necessity. They will more develop as a singer 1. Lily 2. Haewon 21. Kyujin 23. Sullyoon 25. Jinni 29. Jiwoo 34. Bae Nmixx literally time bomber when they release own nation song maybe they will become one of the best girlgroup history

Nmixx just needs a hit song cause everytime someone praises their vocals there are atleast 4 to 5 comments about their shit song and how they ' flopped' it's like the argument against talent is popularity

Both my best iconic duo lily and haewon just *UNBELIEVABLE*

Did you guys hear Giselle's cover of Shake it off by Mariah that she posted month ago on Bubble? Honestly her and Karina's tones are my favourite in Aespa and I wish Giselle was given more lines in this comeback.

Many people have started believing that Lily is better than Ning Ning but they are still not able to believe that Haewon is also better than Ning Ning.

I'm not sure I would put Yechan below Haewon, but otherwise this is a SOLID rank. I personally believe Aespa will climb up the ranks as time goes by, especially Ningning (SM main vocalists are known to have a very sustainable technique). On the other hand, Ningning X Lily collab when? Year-end shows, we want to see the power ballad they would deliver.

this will probably reach outside the vocal community due to the style of this vid so your comment section is about to become hell 💀 praying for you🙏

yechan, jiwon, haewon, and lily deserve their spots so much

I was curious on how Karina does during live performances, I am under the impression that she sings like an average vocalist in studio (she still can have issues with pushing) but can get shallow in her midrange sometimes during informal & casual settings like fancalls or bubble, does she still keep this shallowness during Coachella, LA Showcase, Jimmy Kimmel, & GMA? I think I remember reading a comment of yours saying that she was messy during her run in Life’s Too Short in live performances & that it screamed shallow but I think it makes sense because she just throws the notes around during live riffs/runs but I think that’s just her lacking proper control over herself during more complex runs for someone at her level, not necessarily to do with her being incapable of fully supporting those notes (up until B4) if it wasn’t apart of a run/riff, please correct me as I’m not an expert and this is based off what I’ve read in the comments here and on your community posts, thank you for your time to whoever reads this!

I love watching your analysis and rankings even though I don't know vocal techniques. This ranking was 100% agreeable. Loved the editing and I was swaying to the girls lovely voices the whole video💗

NMIXX hope everything comes up roses♥️♥️

I actually understand someone seeing Giselle better than Karina. She doesn't really attempt to belt nor is she a "power house" vocalist, but she still maintains her notes relaxed, a clear tonality, having a refined sound.

NMIXX SWEEPING THE LIST AS THEY SHOULD!!

kzfaq.infoj4jaYpTxFtM?feature=share The comments : "Siyeon outsings everyone" 🌚🌝

I actually respect this list very much 👍

May I know what is the supported range of Haram in Billie at her best?

its impressive how chaewon managed to improve in HYBE of all places lmao i hope she can improve even more to atleast be a low W-A

When toxic fans will say "LiLy's VoCaL iS oVeRrAtEd","tHeY aRe FrOm JyPe",I'll send them this video

I'm addicted to Lily singing SORRY NOT SORRY

Who do you think did the background vocals kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gtNkpdd8ppfceH0.html#t=1m50s

For you, what are the best vocal workouts available in KZfaq?

Sorry another question, for those familiar with lapillus, what can you say about their vocals? And who among them can support? I know Chanty may be able as I could also hear some openness from her singing, though in their song she was not showcased as much of a vocalist as some said due to her pronunciation...

Wait so you're saying haely are definitely the strongest vocal duo in kpop?😭🖐️ Joke hahahahaha, but anyways Stan nmixx!!!!!

Since it’s related to Purple Kiss (who are in the video), updated RBW (minus VRomance since I need to investigate their shit and I haven’t done it yet) rankings + updated estimated supported ranges + tiers for ONEUS and MAMAMOO members (since they’re my ults) and basing on sootzubae’s Purple Kiss rankings too 1. Solar: G#3/A3 - C5/C#5 (High Above Average) 2. Yonghoon 3. Wheein: G#3/A3 - B4/C5 (Mid-High Average to Above Average) 4. Hwasa: A3/Bb3 - B4/C5 (Mid-High Average to Above Average) 5. Goeun 6. Seoho: E3/F3-F4/F#4 (Low or Low-Mid Average; also it coulddddd be a stylistic choice (most likely is), but also a little noticeable airiness/breathiness in his lows and mid-range at times (don’t think it’s a red flag problem, but something to note about also considering his lacking (in consistency and fullness) chest (TA) engagement/coordination lol)) 7. Swan (knew she wasn’t that shallow, at least not compared to fellow labelmate Keonhee lmao) 8. Chaein 9. Moonbyul: G3/G#3 - G4/G#4 (Mid-Low Weak-to-Average; she’s airy yea, but she’s more solid than Keonhee from what I can see so far with limited materials) 10. Keonhee: E3/F3 - E4/F4 (Fringing Mid-Low or even just Low Weak-to-Average since he’s pretty shallow most of the time with fuller moments very occasionally; also noticeable jaw tension at times too; Treasure Yedam also has this same issue (jaw tension) as well) 11. Dongmyeong (?) 12. Leedo: N/A (Underdeveloped) 13. The rest (though for ONEUS, last time, I ranked Hwanwoong below Xion and Ravn but then looked into more material and turned out that he has better vocal closure/connection than the two with questionable but still shallow moments here and there, but to be safe, he’s still interchangeable with the two since none of them have the basics down anyways) ***EDIT: I forgot Dongmyeong (Xion’s twin), whoops lmao. ***EDIT 2: never mind, found some nice E3’s from Seoho though still inconsistent lol. Giving him E3 back lol.

I hope we get more material from class:y for them to be in next ranking 😊

1. LILY M... 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 Haewon Sullyoon Bae 😍Main Vocalist 👏

yayy billlie haram :))) too often do i see everyone exclude her from great vocalist lists and she definitely deserves to be recognized as one of the best ones out there

Okay I really want to know if there's anything note-worthy in Yuna's recent cover cuz she hits different from what I'm used to with her😩 (i really want to put a link but yt is being an a**hole lol)

Can someone link me please where Haewon supported her head voice and notes above C#5?? Please I really need them because someone is still arguing with me about that and told me that she never supported her hv and notes above C#5

Haewon y Lily probablemente el dúo vocal más poderoso de la 4 gen

æspa having their weakest vocalists dominating top 20 while their stronger singers dominating top 10 is already impressive. And cmon, why are people acting as if they didnt continue the SM tradition of having strong a vocalline. Bcs they did, and that itself is impressive. These girls are already this talented, what more on the upcoming years!!! IMO, æspa's dynamic as a group is my most favorite, its like they are made to be with each other. Their dynamic and chemistry as group is evident in savage and next level, I love how they use themselves mixing their vocals. The fact theyre already this good, how much can they be on the upcoming years. Im keeping an eye on them.

Can someone tell me wonder girls supported range and their tiers...?

If I had to guess the top 5 vocal lines of 4th gen it’d be 12dal, nmixx, aespa, pink fantasy and then purple kiss?? (And Weeekly isn’t far behind) Please correct me if I’m wrong Edit: I’ve heard Billie might be good too (Haram: 1 A and Suhyeon, Moon Sua: 2 W-A) Can anyone confirm?

I would disagree with placing Giselle over Karina for now. In spite of her messiness, Karina still has a more developed chest engagement which is enough to put her above around this level. I think there are better instances but they’re singing side by side here which gives a clearer view kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9x8etyBmbCpiJs.html when both of them are phrasing those G#4’s, it takes less effort/is quite easier for Karina to produce it with more fullness and a chestier coordination, while Giselle still sounds thinner around here. Karina’s problem is a bit like Jessica… well not really… it’s a bit less isolated I suppose where her issue is the quality of support between her lighter sound and the bolder one, but she retains it well enough in the bolder approach (it’s usually the ambitious runs for her level she tries to apply that makes it sound more all over the place) at least better than what Giselle can manage for now, Karina has better attempts on B4’s as well which doesn’t seem to be entirely flukes so far, by extension the placement on her C5/C#5 are not bad as well.

JYP really hit the jackpot with NMIXX. All of the members are main vocal material

I know the girls in the 49 - 41 are pretty much interchangeable, so I wonder what made you give them individual ranks instead of lumping them all together? As far as I know, a ranking implies that the person above has an edge over the person below (can be very slightly but still an edge nonetheless) - and if it's indeed ranked like that, I'm quite sure that overall SinB's light approach is cleaner and that she has shown more moments of inconsistent support, compares to the likes of Minnie who's very keen to stylistic approach.

Bcuz of all the live performances aespa has been getting (thank God) NingNing B4s is getting better and better, one day she would truly achieve a resonance B4😩

i love haram's voice she deserves her spot in here

They say veins popping in ur neck is a sign of bad technique But i saw singers who are known to have great technique had veins popping off their neck, like J-hud, whitney houston, toni braxton, mariah carey, aretha etc had veins popping off when they belt. So what is the real meaning behind it???

Nmixx will be the best gg of the future, I'm so lucky to hear Lily and Haewon's excellent vocals, Sullyoon's excellent visuals and vocals, Jinni, Kyujin and Jiwoo's excellent rap and dance, Bae's excellent voice, dance, rap .

Where is the video of Haewon solo survivor I can't find it ?

chaehyun from kep1er is truly so over hated. she is the only one with consistent support so i have no idea why fans/antis claim she’s weak.

NMIXX queens vocals

random question but what are the biggest factors on being able to support a note. I wanna know so i can improve on them.

can someone tell me what was the song monday and soeun were singing? thanks