Doing that will let the k24 breath better but not really worth going through the trouble of head swapping just to get a few more hp .turbo or supercharging it would be way better.

@@boxer951 It depends on what you want though. If you're looking for an easily attainable big peak power number then you can't beat a turbo, but with that kind of boost you're gonna have lag until 4 or 5k. Supercharged is nice, basically gives the feel of a bigger motor, same power delivery, just more of it, but most struggle to keep the boost up in higher rpms, which is where these motors were meant to be(vtec yo lol). The same deal with smaller turbos, they will spool up quicker than a bigger one, but power will peak sooner bc the turbo can't keep up at the higher rpms. Instead of a more linear power curve, one that makes peak power at red line(which translates to it pulling harder and harder all the way to red line. You can achieve this with a properly sized turbo or staying N/A. Basically, a supercharger or small turbo will give you way more torque at lower rpm's but will run out of breath at the top, a big turbo will pull all the way but you pay for it in lag at lower rpms where the car will be slower than a stock one at same rpm, for a street car this isn't bad, you can save gas by driving it like a normal civic, but then when you want to you can just keep your foot in it and more likely than not you'll be the fastest car around. A nice N/A car gives you the best response and delivers a nice, linear power band. I have a stock motor 08 Si (fa5) so I'm definitely biased but I don't think you'll find anybody who knows anything about motors that'll say the 9th gen engine is better than the 8th gen. Just from a technical perspective the k24z7 only had vtec on intake due to it only having one big oval exhaust valve per cylinder, and the manifold is literally built into the head so no after market headers. I mean it's got 25% more displacement but still makes the same power, albeit more torque at lower rpms and overall but idk, even if I was boosting and I could have whichever engine I wanted, k20z3 hands down. With a turbo and a few upgrades to valvetrain you can make nearly 400hp and Rev out to 9 or even 10k, pulling the whole way. I personally would want the z3 head on a 2.4 tsx block, rsx type s oil pump, good bolt one and good tune and you can push 250whp, with cams and such you can crack 300. 300hp with zero lag, instant throttle response, linear powerband and just as reliable as stock(bc all the major engine components are Honda oem parts, just mixed and matched, just might just stay on top of your maintenance and you have the 9th gen motor Honda should've built. It'd of made more power than all its competitors despite them using turbos. Idk i had a turbo d16y8 in my 99 ex coupe and it was cool as fuck but idk, my fan's k20z3 feels so much better and has way more potential. Hell even if you're going straight into boost a k20 head on k24 block would be sick due to getting all the benefits of more displacement without any of the drawbacks or compromises made by the k24z7 head . I just noticed this is a 9 month old response lol.

@@etizzle915 don’t worry I read to then end and I got some good info! Just picked up a stock 09 civic si yesterday.

@@Wickedreptiles how much the car cost when you buy it?

@@anakallahempat0dua223 4000 but I got it for a good deal, it worth probably 5500

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Same here. I just recently bought my fa5 with Hondata and k&n intake included with only 86k miles. After owning 2 fg2s I can honestly say the fa5 is an understated monster waiting to be woken up lol

I went full bolt tuned and my car became so obnoxious 😆 love the performance but hate the loudness

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I’d rather start pulling at 4K rpm in a k24 instead of 6k rpm in the k20

You should take a ride or drive a K24. I’ve been in and driven both, if you think the K20 has insane throttle response, you should try out the K24. 185whp (I think that’s the hp this k24 had) on a K24 is pretty low, the K24 I’ve driven is about 220-230whp. From driving both K20 and K24, it’s way more fun in the K24 than the K20, K24 just throws me into the seat while the power of the K20 just eases in. So in my opinion the K24 is much better for daily driving and having fun, while the K20 you got to rev up high to have fun.

With stock k24a2 with rbc intake manifold and 50 vtc, you can make 225-235hp around 180 tq. Much faster than k20z3 and it revs to 8200-8500 rpm. But it wouldnt matter anyway k24 has much more piston speed than k20.

My k24 revs to 8800 everyday, throttle response and torque is much better(and I loved my k20z3) but a little money and the k24 is a better platform

@@EFVILLAIN626 well said brother 🤙🏻

Lol

@@jaydenbarteaux8768 Not a fan of the K20?

@@Llggd just swapped mine out for built 20/24 is all. Stock k20 is nothing special at all

@@jaydenbarteaux8768 I’m sure it’s much faster sure, but just surprised on the top end of the K20. Sure beats out my stage 2 wrx which says something about how much overhyped Subies are

@@Llggd agreed. When I was FBO 226whp I think. It was neck and neck with a 2016 sti.

245 up front right? I think I might do the same, I have 225/40/17 on 17x8.5 +32 and I have at least an inch of space to poke out in the rear, and maybe 2 in the front. FG2 as well. Thinking maybe 265 10-10.5 up front and 245 9-9.5 in the rear

@@dangusprime Sheesh man that sounds super aggressive, sounds like you'll have to do a good amount of fender modifications

@@Jay-xg3pt yeah I'd probably shave my rear quarters and roll my fronts, but I am on Coilovers so I can raise the car a bit if I need to

​@@dangusprime Are you tracking the car? Not gonna lie that fitment seems wild for a daily driver lol

255/40R17 all around with my FA5 but that kind of staggered works perfectly

Si transmissions have a helical LSD from the factory.

225 240whp is not running 11's. More likes 14s

@@justinmartin4841 nope. Do some research. Plenty of them on youtube. This is not single cam or b series.

@@Ehren1337 lmfso i own a 2015 si with 230whp i know wtf im talking about. You must be new. A stock k24 civic runs about 14.6 to 14.8. Ok lets add 25hp u think thats gonna get you to 11s? You need to shave 1200 lbs off the car. Lmfao thats fucking hilarious. Maybe YOU should do YOUR research before you say anything because you have no idea what the fuck you're even talking about. You'd need to be pushing around 600 whp to hit 11 second QM times. I actually laughed at your comment, must be like 13 do you strap on your magic rocket boost so its not counted as whp but air HP. Lmfao

@@justinmartin4841 im not talking about 8th or 9th gen chassis. Im literally talking about 90s civic chassis weight lol 600hp will hit 9s. Go watch youtube before you look stupid.

@@Ehren1337 @ 225 whp no car under 1500 lbs is hitting 11s period. That chassis is more like 2400lbs i literally own a 15 si a del sol and a eg hatch.. even gutted with 225 not gonna hit 11s keep on dreamin dude A hayabusa bike 197hp weighs 580 pounds. Runs a quarter in 12 seconds flat or just under. Ur telling me a car with more than twice the weight of the bike with similar power numbers is gonna run a 11. Yeah.. uh huh back to class son. I'll wait for your vid of a legit 225whp car out pulling a Hayabusa.

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K24 still has so much more torque. It's about a 30 lb-ft difference across the whole powerband.

Best thing I did feel great and low rev sounds amazing

K20 over k24 I’ve seen it and can’t change my mind

K20 all day

@Nutbox Deliverer r(rear), s(sway), b(bar)

That vct gear is easy to do by yourself all you got to do is take valve cover off a find dead center pull chain off gear and replace.😃

I’ve got a black 2006 si with 212k and running strong too. May need a k24 swap for fun

Fbo tuned k20s make 220ish whp though

@@BunnyBUNGALO the CRV k24 is weaker and I compared it to a STOCK k20 not FBO lol And a k24a tSx FBO is much more of a monster in power than a k20 FBO to FBO with less revs of course.

@@markrodz2633 a fbo k24 will run almost identical times in the 1/4 mile as a fbo k20. They make identical whp numbers but k20 makes it higher in the revrange.

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They ain't hard to beat. I spank on them daily with my k20a R fbo

@@lenrodriguez5581 ya maybe but i whoop those k20r with my k24/k20 eaasily bro ..

7200 on the stock oil pump

My FA5 weighed 2950lbs fresh from the factory. That's pretty heavy for a car with nearly 70/30 weight distribution and given how modest the engine output is. Love my car, and if you check out my other videos on the build it's very quick on track, but its not a fast car.

The car is FWD.

@@DriveBreakFixRepeat I put on wider tires up front, and it makes the car very darty. Do not recommend when going fast speeds.

@@DriveBreakFixRepeat I have wider wheels up front. But 225 profile all around. I would rub all the time if the tire was any wider.

I knew back then. The seat was at its lowest position.

I like k24 better tho more torque down low gets up and moves a bit better than k20 , but put a k20 head on a k24 block and have the best of both , worlds , k20 for light to light , and k20 for mile racing

650 whp you mean, stock internals with turbo.

Depends what you would call better and that’s the problem it’s just your opinion at the end of the day. Some people enjoy the higher revving engines. In drag races you see K20s blowing k24s out of the water both tuned. It’s preference. There’s a reason why the k20 is common in a lot of k swaps

@@DOOMLORDHOKAGE Glad you brought this up. What number of people who own cars with K engines use them for? Fair to say a large majority use the engines in cars to commute and drive on the streets vs drag racing? That's great the K20 has the potential to make more power (which is debatable. I'm fine with both engines. I'm glad both exist), when using the engine 98% of the time not reving the crap out of it, majority of the people want tq. If I had a car that was used mainly for tracking and the K20 is the better engine to use, I'll gladly use it. For all other purposes, the K24 is superior.

@@andydhillon1977 I think you just need to let people enjoy things they like. You're trying really hard to "dismantle" someone else's preference. You might be very insecure in your purchase good sir

@@DOOMLORDHOKAGE I'm not trying hard to dismantle anything. My responses were short and concise. It was pretty easy. I'm not insecure about owning a Mugen Civic. 1 of 1000 car that will have the K20 replaced for a K24. I'll keep the K20 still. I sleep well at night.

@@andydhillon1977 So why are you complaining in a youtube comment about not understanding why people like the K20s, trying to convince anyone reading (or yourself) that k24 is the better engine and announcing to the world that you're switching to a k24? LMAO Doesn't seem like you sleep well at night at all

K24 with be faster in a light to light race tho, only time k20 will come out on top is in a top speed run

500rpm more? Who shifts at their k20 at 8000rpm lol? I rev my 31 year old single cam accord to 7500rpm lol. Mind you its not stock by any means.

Lol and k20z3 can rev to 8500 rpm easily too stock with a tune . But I'll say the k24a2 is better if you plan to stick NA but the k20 is better if you plan to boost it. At the end of the day tho , you can always combine the 2 and get best of both

7th gen is the em2 right?

@@ColdVsIce yes

@@ATAnders93 love the body stylr

The suspension geometry in the 7th generation is trash

@@kevinwhiting8391 I guess I’m used to trash then. The only other cars I’ve had is a base model 02 Sentra, Protege5, and a 16 Ford Focus SE. They were all practically identical in the suspension area.

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These aren't the 90s tin can Hondas, they weigh over 2,900lbs.

the two door looks like an egg

@@br3ad420 best body style by far, 4 doors is for old ppl

The FA5 sedan looks way better than the fg2 lol

@@ColdVsIce those are the ugliest civics ever made 🤣😂

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Stay tuned...

@Nutbox Deliverer i have the 50deg and type s pump, and no issues yet car pulls strong.

@Nutbox Deliverer yup K24a2!

j o i n u s

You're right for the most part, but at the same time they realize there's a bunch of ppl that must have sedans so they're trying to bring the fun factor to them as well. (I would love a coupe si) nonchoice must have sedan. Drive a 5spd lx.. 😒good on gas, can be fun, but still working on that si part. Theres an FA5 with my name on it out there somewhere.

@@jondoe2099 you can always find an Fg2 though.

@@Pharaoh_The_Great true that.. gotta get the 3rd car tho so wife cant say nothin lol.

Those cars didn’t exist in the early 2000s

Nah, nothing wrong with sedans. The issue is coupes with automatics. All coupes should be manual. Period

If they know you got money man shops be shady as hell like ohh we will let this one go out knowing your gonna have fucking problems so you'll have to take it back so THEY can make more money

Same power just more torque

@@lollol-xp4mc slightly more hp

Yes K24a2 is a supior engine to k20z3 I have experienced both engine in my fa5 si.