Thanks :)

very well, glad it helped :)

Krystian Wlodarczak Kristinan did you make any upgrades to the suspension? What is your weight? I am also in Poland, 85kg and I hit the back mud guard on smaller bumps. Any source for the stronger elastomers or springs in Poland?

Absolutely. The early mantis version i had was extremely soft and i replaced the bushings later with harder ones.

I like mines hard is a wild statement guy

Unscrew it...? It may be hard to do however because it has to be tight. It also helps to heat it up because there is loctite in it.

it cant be said like that because we dont know how stiff it is in the first place (this varies a bit with every unit and batch). you have to try

Bonjour, j'ai déjà pensé à remplacer les vis par une version plus épaisse, c'est une bonne idée. Je comprends que cela peut mal finir lorsque la vis se casse et qu'une pièce se coince.

From the logical point of view, if you can lock the longer pole (handle bar) into position, then I don't see why not. Were you thinking of welding an extension to the current pole?

This should be no problem as long as you use the 22mm (7/8") Handlebars. These are typically used on BMX bikes and some motorcycles.

Thanks Ralf. I don't like the stock handlebar that came with the scooter because it's too limited on the space near the stem.

​@@ralfhalbknapp1104 By the way, how can I change the brake rotors? I want to put something with better color and design. Any ideas how to take them out? Let me know okay. Thanks.

please note that this video is over 2 years old and only solves problems with mantis build at that time. They already made six minor changes until the 2022-version. So if you use a video to fix, check which version you have ;)

@@ralfhalbknapp1104 I have a 2022 version and the front spring and setup is exactly the same.

Absolutely - only solution i found is change the (rear) rubber rod inside the Spring to a harder one from e-watts.fr but sadly this piece is constantly sold out

ralf halbknapp I even saw your comment there, please put a video how to install it or maybe there is one already recorded? I will email them to ask for this :) with my 80kg it seems I’m too heavy, maybe I am 85 kg now after covid lockdown. I checked e watts fr website and I am surprised they don’t have mudguard extension for Mantis, it is a must have .. so I guess I have to get it on Ali or bring it to a local e bike service. Maybe that rubber rod is also available on Ali

ralf halbknapp ok it’a available again on e watts! I am going to get 2, one for the front and one for the back. You also commented on e watts website that you had to cut the 60mm to 50mm for the back suspension and you also bought longer screws M5 65mm instead of 60mm. I will do the same. Did you replace front and back to 50 mm elastomer and 65mm M5 screws or only back suspension? How is it performing after some time ?

No, because this video is was uploaded in September 2019 and I do not have this scooter anymore.

Hi, newer versions should come "somehow" waterprooved. Kaabo recommends to not ride in the rain and by the way the scooter is designed i would also not recommend to do it if you can avoid it (if you get caught in the rain you have no option anyway).

Hi, I have this one , exactly the same like yours. I am riding in the rain sometimes and nothing happened so far after a few minutes of rain. But it's rather not dedicated for longer trips in heavy rain.

Not sure if I'd go to that extent, a!s it would create weaker areas in the coil where it's been ground more than others, and lead to potential failure of the coil. Unless one can accurately grind the entire coil equally in every spot which in my opinion would be virtually impossible, on top of which, the heat created while grinding will impact structural integrity of the metal itself. Your best bet would be to contact a local machine shop, any one of which can create a new coil to your particular specs. Or rummage thru a salvage yard where one can find all sorts of useful repurposed items. They are gold mines for engineers such as myself and a source of endless possibilities .

@@doctornovocaine5156 I was thinking of mounting the spring in a drill and using an internal sander/grinder on the inner surface of the spring while it rotated slowly to reduce the diameter of the coils. A lathe would be even better, but unfortunately I don't have one of those. I doubt that heat would be an issue

@@onecookieboyI also didn't consider how much you are wanting to remove and the actual composition of the metal, that too will be a factor. Because for any material to start stripping away at the metal you would have to have either significant pressure with something coarse or sharp enough to strip metal at slow speeds or a material less coarse or sharp at higher speeds thus causing the heat issue. So again my only fear would be if your planning to remove a significant amount of the coil, would be the heat. Although if only for a short duration; depending on the material, wouldn't be that huge of an issue.

@@doctornovocaine5156 I am pretty confident that a sanding drum on a dremel type of grinder would be controllable enough to remove material evenly without too much heat buildup. It is just spring steel afterall, not that special and pretty hard to mess up, it would have to be heated to cherry red and quenched to effect the springiness of it.

you can choose from 5 Mantis springs on Ali, 5 softness styles. but then you will hear more bottoming sound obviously. heavy people perhaps shouldn't change. the best would be a whole different suspension on this scooter or upgrade to King. it's too far from Vsett luxury suspension, very stiff!

I guess they changed the new mantis suspension in a way that there is now more preload then on my unit (meaning it is less relaxed if unscrewed and harder to put on). Maybe if you want it softer overall try cut a bit from the inner PU Rod to make it shorter and more relaxed (only a cm or so).

Hey I have sorted my suspension out 😀 but thank you!

@@electchick_ what did you do? i just loosened mine by 20 half turns

It's a nightmare lol I had to take out the axle for the arms first then bang out in the suspension axle. Then put it back the same way lol but it's soft as f#ck now so I'm happy either way 😊

@@electchick_ how many turns did you do from tight

I purchased through Alibaba, at that time there was no local dealer available. you can contact Michael Sha - "sales6@kaabo.com.cn"

Well, I ordered from these Chinese, it took 15 days to build and another 15 for me to recieve ;-) But if you are US based you can purchase locally and most of all have local service and Spare parts

I am from Austria by the way :)

You're right. The "partial unscrew" method is not good and i've stripped another scooter suspension this way already while others had accidents. It is dangerous. If it's believed the spring is compressed by that bolt without load, I'd rather use a longer bolt, screwed in fully. But all this changed meanwhile with model 2022, the screw is no longer M5 (Hex 4), but M6x65 (Hex 5) if i'm correct. So if there's 5mm extra space while bolt not hitting the damper, and the spring would not move when installed, then the upgrade to e.g. M6x70 makes sense. Not sure if front and rear springs still differ in size. Another potentional upgrade, the spring change, is possible, but only for lighter people as the red one is the toughest version (24% compression) and designated for 85-100kg.

this is what i've found. Mantis v1 suspension bolts: - M5x60 mm rear, - M5x55 mm front, - M10x80 mm steering screw. Mantis v2: - M5x60 mm rear, - M6x65 mm front, - barrel in suspension C - M10x80 mm steering screw. Mantis v3: - M6x65 mm rear, - M6x65 mm front, - barrel in suspension C - M10x80 mm steering screw. if the spring length didn't change in the meantime (front: 35x60, rear: 35x65), then maybe the longer bolt won't even fit the newest model as Kaabo did the job already. The question is why the result is progressively stiffer suspension. Was the travel increased but PU hardened?

No, i had a 2x1000W and a 500W Version.

sorry bout that - you are right. =D

You still did a fine job and your theory was 100% correct! You just had it flip-flopped. Anyone that knows how to turn a wrench knows what you were talking about!(I do have to confess I cringed when I heard the snap!)😳

Es war dann auch tatsächlich vernudelt. Der Schrauben war mit Schraubenkleber befestigt und mit dem Innensechskant den ich zur Verfügung hatte gerade noch zu lösen, ich bin fast von Anfang an durchgerutscht.

Hallo Peter, sorry - das ist mein Privater Kanal und ich schaue auch nur sehr unregelmäßig vorbei. Deine Nachricht betrifft die Geschäftstätigkeit meiner Frau - ich empfehle dir ihr für diese Zwecke ein Email zu schreiben.