There’s equal blame here. Kingy’s been directly critical and zeroed in on JHF, and Kane’s been antagonistic and trolling fans that are coming from the criticisms lol

Been looking forward to this head to head 🗣️🤕😂

I'm team kingy on this one

Can I please have that 20 minutes back?

SEN should of been doing a WrestleMania 17 The Rock v Stone Cold style promo with these twos. This was so good.

These 2 have both contributed to Horne Francis being so disliked. Now that there is booing involved, they both want to wash their hands of it.

Kingy was definitely wrong to say that it "all started with Kane." I'm pretty sure that people boo JHF because they think he's a sook - because of people like Kingy

I'd call that a 0-0 draw. Although it's interesting how Kane doesn't seem to comprehend how he is viewed in the media and how his profile can drastically influence the severity of a response from opposition fans.

I love footy and follow it wherever I can, I never even knew there was some hashtag bath commentry lol. I don't think thousands of people even know what either of these two post on...they living in their own worlds. Listening to this, I am with Kane

Can we all stop saying 'Jason Horne Francis' for like a couple of weeks

Kingy does 80% of the talking “Can you just let me talk please”

Been watching AFL media for about 2 years. Nobody in sports talk can contradict themselves in the same sentence like David King.

Video title should’ve told me to grab my popcorn

I genuinely think that Australia would be a better place without Kane Cornes in media

I think both have good points but as soon as Kane said he wasn't trolling when he says #icebath it was clear that he couldn't concede. It's a clear troll.

'can I finish what i'm saying' and 'let me speak' is such a flex by Kingy

Kingy was about to cry. I’m surprised. Both guilty of this.

This is hilarious to me lol like I'm back in high school 😂

Hey guys can we all just chill in the comments and let David King finish? He’s not finished monologging yet, thanks

How infuriating would it be trying to talk with Kane? I actually really like both these guys, but Kingy has him here. Kane is acting like a child.

Really enjoyed the conversation gentlemen! However David's call " you'll start arguing with fools"! Nailed it David, he's arguing with you! PS to get some true objectively let's ask Brad Scott a bloke of true integrity what he thinks of King

They both have done shit but Kane is not open to the idea that he is partly to blame at all. I remember from memory that it all started with Kane having a go cause I agreed with him at the time. I've got no dog on this fight but I remember Kane firmly as the beginning of this.

This was highly entertaining 😅 However I have to give the win to Kane, Kingy made zero sense at the best of times while Kane actually had valid points

Both of these guys played at the top level, both tasted success, both know how much of a honour it was to be able to represent a club at the top level. Can someone please explain to me why these two (especially Kane Cornes) why Jason Horne-Francis only showed this from the night he was drafted up until his second game (round 2 2022)? After that game, week after week he showed less & less effort. He begun arguing with teammates, wouldn’t follow end of game protocols, show up late to training, show less respect week after week, crack the shits for being dropped to the VFL, then tell the club who gave him everything he wanted that he wants to go home. With all of this, how can they not that mad footy fans are not going to respect this kid? Us footy fans do not like watching players who do nothing but sook, whine & complain showing minimal effort. Nothing but facts

I think Kane is REALLY underestimating the huge effect of social media. Can 30,000 be influenced by it? Yeah definitely.

Yeah whens fair to critique players Cornes, didnt care about it when you had a go at Ginnivan

AFL is a billion dollar industry. Players paid to play, media paid to analyse. It's not suburban footy. If you can't handle getting booed or being criticized in media, go get a 9 to 5

‘He was given awful medical support.’ ‘Have an ice bath.’ JHF: No.

Since he retired from footy, Kane makes a living out of making comments that are often accurate, but at times ludicrous. Kingy can appear arrogant and dismissive, but he always backs up what he says with evidence. He is the unquestionably the smartest analyser in the game and he owned the underprepared Kane several times here.

JHF said before the draft he wanted the added attention which would come with being the number one pick, he said before playing a game he wanted to be the best player in the AFL, he didn’t carry himself professionally at North, and made the decision to leave knowing the level of scrutiny that would bring onto him. he can’t then have others come out publicly and demand it stop immediately, just because of his age. Kane and King may have some part to play in all of this, but most of it lies with Jason himself, and there’s only one way he’s going to get the footy public back on side, by actually playing good football, consistently, and maybe being humble about it in the process.

I’m gonna say the journo is Jon Ralph haha

It wasn't North supporters booing him in Adelaide, wasn't it Bulldogs supporters? Isn't it a parochial state thing?

Its not one thing in particular, its many things stacking up together to create a storm around this player.

Whether Kane started it or not, he definitely has brought a whole lot of unnecessary attention to the JHF situation that has only fanned the fire

I’m surprised as men they couldn’t come to the conclusion that they both put their hand up at the end to leave it on a civil note

so after this, if JFH continually cops the treatment he has been, cornes has no1 to blame but himself.. absolute child. i cant believe Im siding with Kingy.. #cancelkanekornes

haha to be honest I don't care about Port or Norf.... but Cornes is absolutely 100% responsible for this. He is trying to pretend he had nothing to do with it but the guy constantly trolls people about the fact Port got him. I mean I have barely watching this Horne-Francis kid and I hope he fails just to shut Cornes up.

did this have to be on air?

Common Kane W

North Melbournes fault for Jason getting boo’d at a Collingwood game, now I’ve heard it all 😂

King, you rubbished Brad Scott in his last couple of weeks at the Roos saying he wasn't committed. Look at what he's doing at Essendon this year. Look at the Roos....

2 grown men arguing who started a feud with a 18 year old

King looked quite poor here, I would’ve expected some less emotional analysis from someone of his usual standard. Dropped the ball

Kane your a flog! Kingy don’t give him the time of day!!

Yeah,..very unimpressed with Kingy's effort.

good on ya kingy, clearly footy classifieds made those comments sound like kingy was talking about JHF as a port player. typical garbage from ch9 and if ken was so worried about it why did he not speak up last year when he wasn't a port player.

It’s clear that this was building for sometime. For months I’ve thought that these two don’t like each other now it’s come clear. No chemistry, little digs at each other. Best that this stops before it gets toxic

Kane wanted to argue about if its reasonable to declare that he was the catalyst for 65K non-North Melbourne fans to boo JHF and instead David was never going to be happy unless Kane was humiliated into submission. Kingy played the man a lot and the more he got angry and emotional the less he listened and then responded to what Kane was actually saying. I don't think David King once conceeded that there was some merit to Kane's points and point of view on the situation. Kane's pot shot about "Kingy's grand final" was also cheap. I think King would've punched KC if they were in the studio together. Will they be friends after this in the future? I can't imagine ever throwing a colleague under the bus the way Kingy threw Cornes.... pretty dick move - especially if you haven't let him know first.

Jeez Cornes can never do no wrong.

I don't need to listen to this, but if you can tell me who's gonna win the Blues / Saints game.....then I'm in. QUESTION.......Has hypnotherapy been used at club level for certain individuals....and/or could it be an option???? I have a few names that may benefit.

Who is the grub fox footy journalist Kane is talking about?

I feel like that kid watching his two petulant parents fighting

Fantastic debate should be more of it.

Was surprised by the booing and don’t really agree with it but… I think this is the fans saying they don’t want #1 picks leaving after 1 year and hurting their clubs - think the afl needs to stop this from happening or give their fans voice in other ways

Put the gloves on boys

King all the way, hes on a different level

Omg Cornes is a gaslighter

Give it away, Kingy. Enough is enough. No way were the negative views started by Kane. Accept some blame yourself instead of just wanting to dominate the conversation. I hope this is the end to this rubbish.

Kane editing old recorded comments and makoing it look like it was said this year, is nothing short of what this guy gets upto to make a point - he's been called out and shown he's a low level operator - David King is 100% on the money here. Screw you Kane ..... If JHF didn't have a port Jumper on you wouldn't hear from him.

I feel dumber after watching this

Kane, you give the young footballers shit whenever you can. But OH NO NO NO not if he plays for Port, suddenly they are off limits. Hypocrite.

If Kane continues to antagonistic people then don't cry when they bring it back in the form of booing. It's simple. He said he will continue to troll north fans so expect north AND neutral fans tonl troll his golden boy! Can't throw a punch and then cry when one gets thrown back.

It’s a tv show??? Kane, tv , radio and twitter are all types of media, so of course your edit of what David king said (last year I might add), will be replayed dozens of times

Why the hell am I listening to either of these blokes

So Kingy was originally trying to distance himself and act like he had nothing to do with it. He then try’s to flip the argument to state Kane was arguing that. Kane repeatedly said he did contribute along with others, he just wasn’t copping that it was purely the hashtag, which of course it wasn’t. Telling everyone the audio from Classified was radio, dodgy. For me both just as culpable but Kane willing to stand by his comments while King tried to stay popular at Kanes expense. Top bloke 👍

King is the biggest whinger in AFL media

Kane Cornes is the biggest flog in afl history

These coaches are too sensitive Any AFL player or team must be held accountable to media scrutiny

Kane dominated kingy so hard

Who cares if JHF is booed, plenty of players are booed

Both great analysts of the game and both great insights for the fans. They consistently make great points. On the JHF issue though I think both are affected by their admirable allegiances to their former clubs, this made the whole discussion a bit too circular. Also aren’t we all buying into the assumption that the booing is bad? If the fans boo because of what Cornes, Kingy or what anyone says in the media or social media that is just too bad.

what’s funny is that Kane is actually taking responsibility, whereas king- in the pursuit of trying to pin the irrational blame on Kane is merely obfuscating everything he says, clearly just wants to blend in with the crowd and go with the safest route of making Kane the villain, which is a popular narrative for AFL media consumers. Even this comment section laps it up ahahaha. Absolutely no critical thought. Big man Kingy needs to do some liver cleansing get the lead out of his system. Get his hormones straight. Onya Kane

Kane is so disingenuous it's beyond belief

Kingy had a couple of moments there where he just wanted to run straight through Kane like the good old days 😅

Think there is only one person responsible for the negative criticism re HF.

I'm sick of this saga and JHF in general.

Who cares who started it and who was a bigger part. The point is they both contributed towards the issue and as key figures and speakers for AFL they should simply apologise for their part and encourage people to change their behaviour around the JHF issue. Rather than care more about who’s to blame.

They are both deducted 4 premiership points for this.

Cornes knows he’s wrong so he constantly derails and misdirects the conversation.

If I pay my ticket to the footy why can’t I boo? I’m not swearing at anyone etc

It's so funny watching them play the blame game LoL but gotta agree that Kane has been lighting a lot of fires for many young players

As a Port fan, i thought David King is a much nicer person to speak with her, Kane was very rude and speaking over david constantly....

nice to see kingy sticking up for north

It's not hypocrisy Kane, it's a direct comparison of you doing similar at a similar time, and then you try to take Umbridge. Never took issue with what King said when he was in a North Melbourne jumper. FTR I think it's shit form to boo JHF, and these two are both flogs.

I'm not into A.F.L at all and I find this MORE entertaining and better than the actual game..lol I can see who would make a better lawyer with their arguments that are full of facts and logic.

Ken Hinkley has been coping it from the media this year from ex captain and media JHF was the icing on the cake

Why do they keep bringing up the Collingwood fans booing him, didn’t have to do with leaving North. He was booed 2 times and it was because of the free kicks he gave away towards Taylor Adam’s. 🤦🏻‍♂️

It’s not often I agree with Kane Cornes Kane lists about 5 things that have contributed to the drama King: “I’m not interested in any of those things” Then what’s the point of the conversation if you’re just going to dismiss everything Corne says? 😂 King is so dim

I honestly just feel bad for Horne-Francis. He's just a 19 year old.

Kane cannot let kingy finish a sentence 😂😂

Kingy is an arrogant dh

This is a Melbourne [city] thing because as a Crows supporter i have absolutely no reason to boo Francis more than any other Port player. It does feel a bit like the VFL vs the rest of us.

Who said Potatoes and peanuts don't go together..

At least they both agreed that its ok to criticise a teenager. I totally agree.

Kingy wins this debate by highlighting Cornes hypocrisy.

Two grubs putting it on the kid for a pay check. They’re irrelevant to the game.

Kane wouldn't let King speak. And "hashtag icebath" sums up footy classified = tabloid.

Kaneo is paid to needle. Once you get that you’ll realise he has no issue with how he behaves and he’ll continue.

As usual Cornes pushing a full barrow uphill. Kingy 1 Cornes 0

Collingwood booing was almost as bad as when they abused Nicky Winmar.