Kanshi Ram & Rise and Fall of BSP - Arvind Kumar on Urban Chatterati

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Abhinav Prakash

Abhinav Prakash

3 жыл бұрын

On the birth anniversary of Kanshi Ram, Arvind Kumar talks about the legacy of Kanshi Ram and rise & fall of BSP. Arvind Kumar is pursuing PhD in the Department of Politics and IR, Royal Holloway, University of London.
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@erenyeager4452
@erenyeager4452 3 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Kanshi Ram slapped Ashutosh live on TV.
@junkerwarg5965
@junkerwarg5965 3 жыл бұрын
Kanshi Ram OP. 🙏😂
@mxxmauuhan3597
@mxxmauuhan3597 3 жыл бұрын
फनियर फैक्ट : आशुतोष स्लैप्ड हिज फेस ऑन द पॉम ऑफ़ कांशी राम.
@manojnair6146
@manojnair6146 3 жыл бұрын
When and how? Such fun
@luvsuneja
@luvsuneja 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Abhinav and Arvind ji. This topic is completely new for me. Glad to learn more.
@sudhirbchauhan
@sudhirbchauhan 3 жыл бұрын
So insightful discussion..! Thanks..!
@rishiraaj.580
@rishiraaj.580 2 жыл бұрын
Insightful Conversation 🙏
@DeccanPS
@DeccanPS 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely discussion. The points were refreshingly new and provided a different perspective.
@parshurampatel957
@parshurampatel957 2 жыл бұрын
नमो बुद्धाय दोनों साथियों का काम स्वागत योग्य है।
@jayantsinghdwivedi1426
@jayantsinghdwivedi1426 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this enlightening discussion , we often hear passionate arguement from both sides on merits and basis of reservation. I use to pick a side without nuance. This gave me a better perspective. Keep up the good work Abhinav ji 👍🏼
@koppurajaiahrajaiah8214
@koppurajaiahrajaiah8214 2 жыл бұрын
So what suggestion you want to giive toBSP
@koppurajaiahrajaiah8214
@koppurajaiahrajaiah8214 2 жыл бұрын
Is it not true that Bahen Mayayvathi Accepting బ్రాహ్మమ్మనిజం?
@user-gg1rs2ir3w
@user-gg1rs2ir3w 3 жыл бұрын
बहुत ही उत्तम discussion. Domain experts with practical grassroot experience always stand out in their discussions/arguments. Very interesting episode. 🙏🚩🔥
@rishiraaj.580
@rishiraaj.580 2 жыл бұрын
Pls Do More Such Episodes 👍
@kedar112
@kedar112 3 жыл бұрын
Great session! As and when possible please conduct more sessions on Jaati, Varna, what Dharma Shastra say about Varna Vyavastha, how oppressive was Jaati-Varna system since ancient times, caste politics post independence etc! Please dedicate entire playlist to the topic. This is the core fault line of our society! Need more and more and continuous discussions on the topic.
@RD-ln2vx
@RD-ln2vx 3 жыл бұрын
You can watch 'The Jaipur Dialogues' , there are many videos based on this topic on that channel.
@alpeshmittal3779
@alpeshmittal3779 3 жыл бұрын
@@RD-ln2vx Jaipur dialogues are not really honest on these issues related to caste system eg they deny manusmriti says caste system is on birth and not karma
@sachithrao6353
@sachithrao6353 2 жыл бұрын
@@alpeshmittal3779 caste is Portuguese word.
@sachithrao6353
@sachithrao6353 2 жыл бұрын
@@alpeshmittal3779 there were two concepts jari varna. Jati -by birth mainly used for marriages, Varna -occupation by work These these got intermized and things went haywire
@sbanj
@sbanj 2 жыл бұрын
First thing caste is Portuguese term. Jati was very different concept than what we have now.. Jati means like manav jati pashu jati.. Whole group not like we have it today.. Second varna was not birth based in no sanatan scriptures it is birth based it was always work based and also loosely created.. And for ur kind information in Sanatan scriptures engineers architecture IAS all comes under Sudra category.. Then who changed it? Need to read our sastra to know about it and check Macaulay's minutes u would know.. U can read Suhana Singh's "Revisiting the educational heritage of India ".
@RKVerma-ri9ss
@RKVerma-ri9ss 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks sir
@backup9463
@backup9463 3 жыл бұрын
Informative discussion 👍
@dipakgupta5929
@dipakgupta5929 3 жыл бұрын
Great discussion. I am from barabanki uttar Pradesh
@harshar7509
@harshar7509 3 жыл бұрын
JagJivan Ram ji always contested and won from Bihar. His role in UP was minimal. He was never part of UP Congress committee. Regarding recruitment, he did recruit But majority were from Bihar itself.
@maheshchavda8737
@maheshchavda8737 3 жыл бұрын
ज्ञान से भरपूर वार्ता हिंदी में सुनकर अच्छा लगा प्रयत्न करते रहिए
@manojnair6146
@manojnair6146 3 жыл бұрын
Ambedkar’s understanding of Hinduism must be evaluated in the wider context of his treatment of religion in general. We find his interpretation of the Hindu religion following the same template as his investigation of caste and race. Ambedkar was born a Hindu and yet he did not die as one. A few months before he died, he chose to convert to Buddhism, which he declared was the religion best suited to his scientific temper. His conversion was hardly an act of faith. Rather it was his final political statement. It is important to note that even though he admired Buddha and his religion, he found that he could not accept the teachings of the religion in their original form. Thus, Ambedkar set himself on the task of reconceptualizing the very religion he had adopted. He wrote his own “Buddhist Gospel” in which he fundamentally changed the character of Baudha Dharma by radically departing from the traditional hermeneutics of Budhha’s teachings. In this new form, the stress of Buddha’s teachings was not on individual liberation but on collective justice. In fact, so deep was the incongruence between the original Buddhism and Ambedkar’s vision of Social Justice that he had to redefine the central Buddhist tenets like the four noble truths, the eightfold path, and the ideas of suffering, rebirth, and monkhood. To put it plainly, the Navayana Buddhism of Ambedkar has very little correspondence with the Buddhism of Siddhartha Gautama. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a55ne9l5m9fGnn0.html
@rajforty
@rajforty 2 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE LYING.
@apoorvsharma1569
@apoorvsharma1569 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative and insightful. Keep it up Abhinav and Arvind bhai !!
@Challengingbeliefs
@Challengingbeliefs 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most real understanding of caste system in india. And their is a reason why people of all caste have tremendous respect for kashi ramji
@Rabindra_
@Rabindra_ 3 жыл бұрын
very informative discussion. thanks Abhinav for bringing this out.
@uuunseenandunheard5671
@uuunseenandunheard5671 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! That's a very good discussion!
@rz4283
@rz4283 3 жыл бұрын
Great conversation. I hope Dalit experts like Vivek Kumar, Kancha Iliah, Chandrabhan Prakash learn something from Dr. Arvind
@Rocky-he7zy
@Rocky-he7zy 2 жыл бұрын
These people know tonnes more about bahujan issues than Dr Vivek here. If only you read their works before making such subtle Casteist remarks. Well I'm also an idiot for expecting decency and common sense from a Sanghi chomu like you
@rz4283
@rz4283 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rocky-he7zy Casteist remark, that too me being a Dalit myself? Ok dude, go get a life now or apply for the job as Vivek Kumar's personal secretary instead of wasting time here by abusing me
@sachithrao6353
@sachithrao6353 2 жыл бұрын
@@rz4283 nice one.
@sachithrao6353
@sachithrao6353 2 жыл бұрын
Upper caste need to. Understand that reservation is one aspect. Problem is never with reservation but it's implementation.
@rz4283
@rz4283 2 жыл бұрын
@@sachithrao6353 Reservation was absolutely necessary at one point of time, but it should be reviewed from time to time, as we move further towards an egalitarian society. But today, reservation is more used as a political tool to win elections, nothing more. Also, now it's the time to totally shun caste based politics, organizations like Karni Sena, Bhim Army etc are useless for the society
@showbhitmehra1390
@showbhitmehra1390 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative interview 👍
@bhaveshdk
@bhaveshdk 3 жыл бұрын
Om
@vestigesoffreemarket6148
@vestigesoffreemarket6148 3 жыл бұрын
Problem with Kanshi Ram & these Socialist era hangover(including Ambedkar) was their inability to understand how free markets punish any discrimination(not homogeneity) & their Socialism rewarded it Only Rajaji-Masani duo understood free market/capitalism thus, they wanted weaken Nehru to halt him from forming PSUs (all failed/NPAs now) Indira faced almost 0 resistance thus, banks are left insolvent with 0 alternatives to quick insolvency mechanisms-nationalisation was a great success🤦 Anyhow Indian constitution is a SJW document which'll ensure 3rd world like status for India to continue More we run away from it, more successful India'll be! Especially reg pvt prop+pvt defence ie guns
@Aleksandr_Gelyevich_Dugin
@Aleksandr_Gelyevich_Dugin 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you sir, I am a big supporter of Swatantra Party. I admire Rajaji and Masani a lot.
@marshaltf6797
@marshaltf6797 3 жыл бұрын
Now I am second.
@drrameshkmadaan
@drrameshkmadaan 3 жыл бұрын
Jai Hind!Style and Functioning #Sanskritization
@opiniontrading
@opiniontrading 2 жыл бұрын
There is rise and only rise of BSP
@sachithrao6353
@sachithrao6353 2 жыл бұрын
Not at the present
@parthchaturvexi4804
@parthchaturvexi4804 3 жыл бұрын
Great discussion
@atharvasharma5814
@atharvasharma5814 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@piyushbharadwaj3209
@piyushbharadwaj3209 3 жыл бұрын
I have dissent on that sc face slavery , fact is sc face discrimination, exploitation and restriction in higher opportunity but slavery is not right fact, bounded labor form emerge in jamindari pratha manly started by muslim and british rule.
@thakursukhshant
@thakursukhshant 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like i am 1st
@the24thintrovert
@the24thintrovert 3 жыл бұрын
37:35
@kushagrasharma9659
@kushagrasharma9659 3 жыл бұрын
hindus should stand united unitil this "minority problem" is there , later we can solve our own problems too.
@73HE
@73HE 3 жыл бұрын
Kanshi Ram ji was a great man even Behnji if she had not lost her mind due to power was a good person
@user-kr2wj3pi1q
@user-kr2wj3pi1q 3 жыл бұрын
Jaativaad, Jaativaad aur bas Jaativaad
@veerswami7175
@veerswami7175 3 жыл бұрын
I am 297 😂😂😂😂😂
@deepjyotibhattacharjee4582
@deepjyotibhattacharjee4582 3 жыл бұрын
Kashiram was a seperatist.
@mxxmauuhan3597
@mxxmauuhan3597 3 жыл бұрын
Never liked this Kanshi Ram, His entire politics was based on castism.
@xyzyu___21
@xyzyu___21 3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@sachithrao6353
@sachithrao6353 2 жыл бұрын
You bengali votes for communist. You have no right to bash kanshiram ji
@sachithrao6353
@sachithrao6353 2 жыл бұрын
It is a fact that obcsand sc/sts are 70ercent roughly
@himdude9637
@himdude9637 3 жыл бұрын
बहुजन समाज हिंदू नहीं मुस्लिम है
@NatrajChaturvedi
@NatrajChaturvedi 3 жыл бұрын
Murti Pujan yani shirk waley Muslims right?
@s.pparamita9031
@s.pparamita9031 3 жыл бұрын
Secular Hindu, hindu nahi muslim hain
@hirajirajput8018
@hirajirajput8018 3 жыл бұрын
Luli katvai he tune
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