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How much money KISS paid Bob Kulick, real net worth, royalties

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Ай бұрын

This is my review on how much money Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons from KISS paid Bob Kulick, real net worth, royalties.

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@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Guitarist Bob Kulick (Mitch Lafon, October 2019 interview) - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z8Wchct93Kqtg2Q.htmlsi=R9-zgwkJMxvrdfmE Bob Kulick (The Metal Voice, November 2019 interview) - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eNVoYKuquZvFpGg.htmlsi=8n4oQDa5CLaCYGtt
@adambilge2834
@adambilge2834 Ай бұрын
Bob made the classic mistake of thinking he was "in the band" when he wasn't. He was a hired gun and was paid as a session player, and that's it.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
It wasn't all about the money. Bob couldn't get the gig with KISS because Paul and Gene wanted a tall guy with long hair. Bob said that when he got the gig with Paul Stanley in 1989, his brother Bruce said, "What do you do? Are you trying to steal my gig?" And when Gene wanted Bob to play on his solo record, Paul said, "He played on mine! You can't use him on yours." Things like that... That's why Bob felt bitter and disrespected.
@Maniacsface
@Maniacsface Ай бұрын
F that. You are in a room making their lives easier, doing things they can’t do.
@rdgSWwot
@rdgSWwot Ай бұрын
@@ManiacsfaceAnd sadly, he was not a member of the band. It’s that simple. Bob was a great musician. He did make their lives easier. That said, it’s the same as if I had argued about being in KISS. It simply was not based in truth.
@dagwood1969
@dagwood1969 Ай бұрын
I think it’s a little different than that. Kulick didn’t understand what Paul and Gene understand all too well. Paul and Gene are not musicians, they are entertainers and they know it. They hired a musician the help out in the entertainment business called KISS. Kulick made the same mistake that WNBA players make. They think they are atheletes, when really they are entertainers. That’s why the men get paid more. They put more asses in the seats and sell more jerseys. If he was so fucking good, why didn’t he show up anywhere else? Gene and Paul are in the marketing business, it’s happenstance that a musical act is the vehicle.
@g3currie
@g3currie 16 күн бұрын
​@@karsguitarchannel6088well KISS had a gimmick, you gotta look the look,he ain't the first one to not get on a band based on looks. I would assume he got paid to do all the stuff he did.
@guitarherocallahan3510
@guitarherocallahan3510 Ай бұрын
Bob was a great guy! He helped Bruce a lot and worked very hard. He felt bitter because in the end he didn't have what he deserved for all his hard work. Thanks Kar, great upload!
@arm5080
@arm5080 Ай бұрын
Met Bob once was more than happy to talk about his experience with KISS and other projects he was involved with.such a nice guy RIP
@yourguitarist
@yourguitarist Ай бұрын
You're not paid what you're worth...you're paid what you negotiate.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
I think Paul paid Bob very well. $3600 in 1978 is worth about $18000 today. I think Bob wanted to work more with KISS and get more money but Paul and Gene were not interested. That's what made Bob bitter and disrespected.
@rabarebra
@rabarebra Ай бұрын
@@karsguitarchannel6088 instead went with Vinnie Vincent. go figure
@rdgSWwot
@rdgSWwot Ай бұрын
Well said. That applies to all of us.
@supernova3586
@supernova3586 Ай бұрын
Dude wasn't in KISS. He was a session guy that got paid as a session guy. That's how it works, which is why he agreed to it. It is all on Bob. He negotiated his own deal. He could only be mad at himself. There are certain session guys that basically played on everything. Dan Huff, Tim Pierce, Steve Lukather. Most people never even knew they were on the tracks.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
It wasn't all about the money. Bob couldn't get the gig with KISS because Paul and Gene wanted a tall guy with long hair. Bob said that when he got the gig with Paul Stanley in 1989, his brother Bruce said, "What do you do? Are you trying to steal my gig?" And when Gene wanted Bob to play on his solo record, Paul said, "He played on mine! You can't use him on yours." Things like that... That's why Bob felt bitter and disrespected.
@supernova3586
@supernova3586 Ай бұрын
@@karsguitarchannel6088 Who cares? He wasn't a band member. That is literally how the industry works. He literally said if he was worth 2.3million who wouldn't care about any of it. . That is the definition of all about the money.
@stevetrivago
@stevetrivago Ай бұрын
@@supernova3586 I always considered Kiss strictly entertainment because they couldn’t really play instruments
@HappyMachorino-bd8no
@HappyMachorino-bd8no Ай бұрын
​​@@stevetrivago ?Paul wrote his songs on his guitar🎸. He definitely could play instruments 🎸 write✍️songs AND sing them🎤 And his performance was show and entertainment.
@RiffMusic1970
@RiffMusic1970 Ай бұрын
2:00 you don’t get royalties as a session player so he got paid exactly what he should have.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
And Paul paid Bob very well. It was good money in 1978. $3,600 in 1978 is worth about $17,341 today.
@onusgumboot5565
@onusgumboot5565 Ай бұрын
I'd rather have the money than respect from Gene and Paul. Why would I care about respect from people I don't respect?
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
It wasn't all about the money. Bob couldn't get the gig with KISS because Paul and Gene wanted a tall guy with long hair. Bob said that when he got the gig with Paul Stanley in 1989, his brother Bruce said, "What do you do? Are you trying to steal my gig?" And when Gene wanted Bob to play on his solo record, Paul said, "He played on mine! You can't use him on yours." Things like that... That's why Bob felt bitter and disrespected.
@lukebandy516
@lukebandy516 Ай бұрын
@karsguitarchannel6088 I really doubt that considering Vinnie Vincent is about 5'4" tall and wore a wig.
@HappyMachorino-bd8no
@HappyMachorino-bd8no Ай бұрын
But Bob liked and respected Paul and Gene. They knew each other long ago. And he even wanted to "give" them his little brother Bruce! Paul called Bob a friend in his book. Bob's problem was self made. He had no self respect. Therefore he FELT disrespected. He couldn't get acknowledgement enough. It has to do with their parents. Bruce didn't talk much about their childhood. But it's obvious that Bob's bitterness comes from somewhere deep down inside. Not from Paul and Gene.
@jimrussellmusic
@jimrussellmusic Ай бұрын
Bob's guitar work is amazing. It's what made Paul's solo record shine. The more I learn about the industry, the more I'm grateful that I never really got into it. I'd have gotten into some trouble if I'd been treated the way these amazing players I hear about were treated. RIP Bob Kulick
@tproudboomer5965
@tproudboomer5965 Ай бұрын
While it’s obviously true you want to avoid being taken advantage of, if music’s in your blood you couldn’t imagine doing anything else for any amount of money.
@markmarsh27
@markmarsh27 Ай бұрын
Simmons and Stanley RIPPED SOMEBODY OFF? Gee, what a shocker.
@33cattt49
@33cattt49 Ай бұрын
Jews
@superhuman6156
@superhuman6156 Ай бұрын
@@33cattt49Terrible comment.
@33cattt49
@33cattt49 Ай бұрын
@@superhuman6156 you can say it’s terrible but you can’t say it’s a lie 😎
@daveb8449
@daveb8449 Ай бұрын
They didn't rip anyone off. They offered a wage,...Kulick didn't have to take it. But he did.
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 Ай бұрын
@@daveb8449it’s called exploitation. I know what u r saying though
@RickReese-fc6ck
@RickReese-fc6ck Ай бұрын
So he’s complaining they never ‘thanked him’?🤔 I’m thinking that if they thanked him instead of paying him then we would be hearing that story 🤨
@andyhayes7828
@andyhayes7828 Ай бұрын
All of Bob's guitar solo's with Kiss were great, he played for the song and TOTALLY kept the vibe. His solo's on "Ain't quite right" off of Paul Stanley's 1978 solo album are amazingly emotional, and are among some of my all time favorite. Rip Bob
@jimrussellmusic
@jimrussellmusic Ай бұрын
I agree, and the solo in "Take me Away" was also incredible.
@andyhayes7828
@andyhayes7828 Ай бұрын
@@jimrussellmusic 👍
@bobowrathsovine.
@bobowrathsovine. Ай бұрын
Yeah that particular solo is the best thing about that whole album
@cryptoinvestorcryptoinvest5542
@cryptoinvestorcryptoinvest5542 Ай бұрын
@@bobowrathsovine. that entire solo album is great. Love Bob’s guitar work.
@HappyMachorino-bd8no
@HappyMachorino-bd8no Ай бұрын
For his🎸playing on Paul's solo album I will love Bob Kulick (RIP) forever. His 🎸is singing with Paul🎤(Together As One).
@AceGibson1959
@AceGibson1959 Ай бұрын
The song from AC/DC called 'it's a long way to the top (if you want to rock n roll) is pretty much what goes on in the industry.
@BLD426
@BLD426 Ай бұрын
That's like buying a stock & being upset that people made more buying at IPO.
@jimroadhouse4872
@jimroadhouse4872 Ай бұрын
I worked at a hotel where kiss stayed gene and Paul had the suites Eric and Bruce had regular rooms
@rabarebra
@rabarebra Ай бұрын
lol
@pythonflying
@pythonflying Ай бұрын
If he would have got a 1% royalty on the Bat Out of Hell project alone he would have got his $3 million
@gener2842
@gener2842 Ай бұрын
I knew Bob. He was a great person. And very honest.
@bobbywilson1132
@bobbywilson1132 Ай бұрын
Bob was bitter, and had been for decades. You were a session guy. You got paid for your work. That's it. End of story. He was also bitter that he felt he was a better guitarist than Ace. Sorry Bob, Ace is Ace.
@mr.timebombman2230
@mr.timebombman2230 Ай бұрын
Technically Bob was better, but Ace has influenced a lot of people. His style fit the band more than anyone else that was in the band.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Bob couldn't get the gig with KISS because Paul and Gene wanted a tall guy with long hair. Bob said that when he got the gig with Paul Stanley in 1989, his brother Bruce said, "What do you do? Are you trying to steal my gig?" And when Gene wanted Bob to play on his solo record, Paul said, "He played on mine! You can't use him on yours." Things like that... That's why Bob felt bitter and disrespected.
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 Ай бұрын
Session musicians are almost better than the label artists they r paid to support.
@vanderhoff66fu
@vanderhoff66fu Ай бұрын
I Still Love Bob great guy great musician
@billmc62
@billmc62 Ай бұрын
So every studio musician should get a free house and car and be paid millions? Get real people and understand the business before you let your emotions decide. He didn't write the songs. He was hired as a session player and got paid double scale. This is not unusual. Unfortunately, the average music fan is clueless about the business and thinks people's feelings should dictate how much someone gets paid.
@chrisoakley5830
@chrisoakley5830 Ай бұрын
Good comment, I understand that many people might feel that Bob was done wrong, but if it hadn't been him playing on those tracks for Kiss, they would have simply hired another session player. We could debate about the fairness of it, but as you said, it was just the nature of the business. There was a famous session group back in the 60s called The Wrecking Crew that included Glen Campbell, they played on countless classic songs and albums, but garnered no fame from it and probably didn't get rich either.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
It wasn't all about the money. Bob couldn't get the gig with KISS because Paul and Gene wanted a tall guy with long hair. Bob said that when he got the gig with Paul Stanley in 1989, his brother Bruce said, "What do you do? Are you trying to steal my gig?" And when Gene wanted Bob to play on his solo record, Paul said, "He played on mine! You can't use him on yours." Things like that... That's why Bob felt bitter and disrespected.
@regaltip8A
@regaltip8A Ай бұрын
​@@chrisoakley5830Actually Hal Blaine owned a Rolls Royce and Tommy Tedesco had a house with 11 rooms. They did very well.
@user-ji9mo3oe2r
@user-ji9mo3oe2r Ай бұрын
Respect doesn’t pay the bills
@kenijonesESQ
@kenijonesESQ Ай бұрын
Great episode Kar......man that sucks for Bob. It's a cut-throat industry.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Hi Ken, glad to see you! Have an awesome rocking weekend
@kenijonesESQ
@kenijonesESQ Ай бұрын
@@karsguitarchannel6088 you as well brother, cheers
@l.l.c.
@l.l.c. Ай бұрын
The lead work on “Larger Than Life” absolutely rips! Damn.
@seagullpoet
@seagullpoet Ай бұрын
I remember, as a kid, thinking Ace has finally stepped up ! What a shock - wasn’t Ace.
@lancecharley8822
@lancecharley8822 Ай бұрын
​@@seagullpoet I read that it was Rick Derringer who played lead on Larger Than Life in their Behind The Mask book but it does sound more like Bob's playing it also said that Rick played the solo on their song Exciter which is on Lick It Up because Vinnie Vincent found it too difficult to play but these are just what I read i'm not sure if their facts or not to be honest, rock n roll history is alot of studying
@lancecharley8822
@lancecharley8822 Ай бұрын
​@@seagullpoeti used to think it was Ace too playing the studio tracks on ALIVE II as well i didn't find out til i got a little older
@indymudshow
@indymudshow Ай бұрын
Bob was always bitter that he wasnt in the band. It wasnt about respect, It was about notoriety and credit. He wanted it known so he could use it. Fun fact, Sweet victory also had eric singer on drums.
@joemars41
@joemars41 Ай бұрын
What a shame for Bob. Talented musician and more . Thanks for keeping these truths real , as always ! All my best Kar , Joe .🇺🇸🎸
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Big thanks Joe, I appreciate very much!! Have an awesome day
@jefflanham1080
@jefflanham1080 Ай бұрын
What a great guitar player! The studio side of ALIVE 2 is some of their best stuff and his parts really shine!
@hoppes9658
@hoppes9658 Ай бұрын
My love is larger than life.
@IBZRG8570
@IBZRG8570 Ай бұрын
Ya gotta love Ace but Bob’s work on Alive II is as good as anything they ever did. Larger Than Life just rips!!!
@j.reveille6815
@j.reveille6815 Ай бұрын
@@IBZRG8570 yeah but he was imitating Ace.
@IBZRG8570
@IBZRG8570 Ай бұрын
@@j.reveille6815 That’s true. In fact I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that he was told by Paul and/or Gene to play like Ace.
@ShawnStaplesFreeGuitarLessons
@ShawnStaplesFreeGuitarLessons Ай бұрын
Love the photos Kar. Great story as well. Your video rocks!
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Thanks so much Shawn, I appreciate!
@sandytinky
@sandytinky Ай бұрын
If you agree on a price, you weren't ripped off. Yes, Bob never won a Grammy. He got a Participation Certificate - not a Grammy.
@yourguitarist
@yourguitarist Ай бұрын
I looked up the personnel for Bat Out Of Hell and I am not seeing Bob's name. I am a pretty big fan of that record and this is the first time that I am hearing his name associated with it. Was he in the touring band for that tour?
@guitarherocallahan3510
@guitarherocallahan3510 Ай бұрын
Yes Bob Kulick was a touring guitarist. Bob was primarly on lead/rhythm, his younger brother Bruce was on rhythm/lead. After Bob Kulick passed away, Meat Loaf thanked him for his great work on that tour.
@seagullpoet
@seagullpoet Ай бұрын
I saw Bob and Paul (Paul solo tour of clubs) - they were both great. So glad I saw that show.
@MrMichaelbsmith6420
@MrMichaelbsmith6420 14 күн бұрын
Bob did alot not just with KISS but others he really never got the recognition he deserved right up until his passing
@uweborsch1946
@uweborsch1946 27 күн бұрын
Bob Kulick did not play on the album Bat Out Of Hell - he played some tours of that name, afaik.
@kingkrollinvention
@kingkrollinvention Ай бұрын
I like this guy, but if you agreed to the terms, you did not get ripped off. It's easy to look back after something has quadrupled in sales and say I got ripped off. Maybe should have asked for a point or two on the record, that way you would be seen residuals till this day
@kevincampbell9526
@kevincampbell9526 Ай бұрын
His longtime lover, Stella Stevens, passed away a few years ago.
@jamesjames2070
@jamesjames2070 Ай бұрын
She was beautiful
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Yes there's a great interview on youtube where Bob's brother Bruce tells about their relationship.
@gmoneyrockstar4913
@gmoneyrockstar4913 Ай бұрын
As great as the Larger than life solo was/is, Ace's Rocket ride solo on that 4th album side said it all. Plus he wrote it, sang it & killed the solo. Ace can't be knocked during those peak years...
@j.reveille6815
@j.reveille6815 Ай бұрын
Yep and but as I said before bob was imitating Ace as well but he def killed it and I love that solo.
@gmoneyrockstar4913
@gmoneyrockstar4913 Ай бұрын
@@j.reveille6815 I was very disappointed when I heard Ace didn't play the LTL solo, such a great solo. I always liked Bob and his contributions were on point too. The smirky remark to Ace never sounding better came off a bit arrogant but then again Ace was the one asleep lol. Soooo, 2 great solos on that side 4. Ace though, could roll off the couch and come up with the most coolest and memorable solos.
@jamesdykes2968
@jamesdykes2968 Ай бұрын
I just came across your channel Kar, great stuff, thankyou for posting.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Big thanks James, you are very welcome!
@1974ADHDer
@1974ADHDer Ай бұрын
Bob had nothing to do with the Bat Out Of Hell album, he did however perform most of the guitar work on the Bad Attitude album. So this Meat Loaf "quote" is a falsified one.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Meat Loaf needed a touring band to tour the 'Bat out of Hell' album. Bob Kulick got the gig as a touring guitarist. Bob was primarly on lead/rhythm, his younger brother Bruce was on rhythm/lead. It was 1978. After Bob Kulcik passed away, Meat Loaf thanked him for his hard work on that tour to promote the album.
@janiterinadrum1627
@janiterinadrum1627 Ай бұрын
To be fair $2.3 million and let’s say you’ve got 20 years of your life left. You ain’t moving to Hawaii on that kind of money. A house alone would be half of that and the rest would be going in two years… 2.3 million would be better spent in Florida on 5 acres in a trailer or maybe a condominium and budget your money
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
I think Bob knew that he had little time left to live. I think it was a dream to have a vacation in Hawaii. He could rent a modest bungalow and live there a couple of years happily and then maybe go back to Vegas and work.
@colinrgage
@colinrgage Ай бұрын
Tbh whatever he was paid must've been agreed to beforehand
@peterdiamantakiou
@peterdiamantakiou Ай бұрын
Bob was a very good guitarist and he accomplished alot in his career of music, composing, recording, writing etc and i do truly believe he was ripped off especially by Paul and Gene. He was a Facebook friend of mine i saw alot of his posts towards the end he was getting shafted left,right and centre..RIP Bob 🙏
@HappyMachorino-bd8no
@HappyMachorino-bd8no Ай бұрын
Did Carmine Appice complain that he was "underpaid"? No, in his recent interview he told how he was tired, had a jetlag. But he still wanted to play on Paul's solo-album. They were friends. Paul made them famous. And "started" or helped their careers. That's what counts.
@JohnnyReno71
@JohnnyReno71 Ай бұрын
If he doesn’t like how’s he being treated he could’ve left. It’s his own fault… did he ever try out for a band or start his own.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Yes Bob played in other bands and produced records. I think Bob felt bitter and disrespected because he wanted to do more work with KISS and get some decent money but Paul and Gene were not interested. That was the problem.
@DoncampbellUSMC1041
@DoncampbellUSMC1041 Ай бұрын
What does Chris Robinson ,Black Crowes pay their new Guitarist?
@joejohnston2035
@joejohnston2035 Ай бұрын
2.3 million wouldn't buy a house in Hawaii
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Maybe he could rent something modest
@lucyfuir6386
@lucyfuir6386 Ай бұрын
Bob had a distinct look I think him and Tony Levin could have had a great band.
@LuisDHern
@LuisDHern Ай бұрын
Bob was a studio musician/session player. He got paid a rate. I don’t know of any studio musicians/ session players that get royalties for the albums they played on. Ridiculous!
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Bob told that when he got the gig with Paul Stanley in 1989, his brother Bruce said, "What do you do? Are you trying to steal my gig?" And when Gene wanted Bob to play on his solo record, Paul said, "He played on mine! You can't use him on yours." Things like that... That's why Bob felt bitter after
@HappyMachorino-bd8no
@HappyMachorino-bd8no Ай бұрын
Most likely Bob got royalties for his co-writing for "Naked City" on UNMASKED. A timeless beautiful song (RIP Bob Kulick🌹)
@stormbringercoming8105
@stormbringercoming8105 Ай бұрын
Bob knew how the business works. Your only get paid as much as your employer has to. Playing with KISS (and other high profile performers) alone is a form of currency towards your next gig. Doing great work for top notch musicians DOES open doors in most cases. Think about The WRECKING Crew, those guys played on thousands of hit songs. If they would’ve gotten royalties, the music business would’ve been bankrupt ages ago. His argument are the words of a bitter man. Sad.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
It wasn't all about the money. Bob couldn't get the gig with KISS because Paul and Gene wanted a tall guy with long hair. Bob said that when he got the gig with Paul Stanley in 1989, his brother Bruce said, "What do you do? Are you trying to steal my gig?" And when Gene wanted Bob to play on his solo record, Paul said, "He played on mine! You can't use him on yours." Things like that... That's why Bob felt bitter and disrespected.
@tommarshall54
@tommarshall54 Ай бұрын
He was a session player on a handful of b-side songs that no one knows.
@shakeyourguitartutorials
@shakeyourguitartutorials Ай бұрын
Very good interesting video Karen! All this money , he did not see!!!! Life of rocknroll, stars don't make as much as we think !!! Lack of respect , hard to swallow!! Well this story was all interesting .Great photos too!
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Hi Christophe, glad to see you! It wasn't all about the money. Bob couldn't get the gig with KISS because Paul and Gene wanted a tall guy with long hair. Bob said that when he got the gig with Paul Stanley in 1989, his brother Bruce said, "What do you do? Are you trying to steal my gig?" And when Gene wanted Bob to play on his solo record, Paul said, "He played on mine! You can't use him on yours." Things like that... That's why Bob felt bitter and disrespected.
@shakeyourguitartutorials
@shakeyourguitartutorials Ай бұрын
Thanks for the precisions !!
@user-ug6ti3op3x
@user-ug6ti3op3x Ай бұрын
This presentation is nothing new . Just another known fact since music that was first put on wax cylinders . As a whole the industry of entertainment is shady . Unless you are a music business college graduate the loop holes are like swiss cheese . It is very normal to get screwed with out seeing it coming .
@rufmixaudio8646
@rufmixaudio8646 25 күн бұрын
Love Bob’s contributions to KISS. The problem for Bob is that he didn’t write with the band, so of course there wouldn’t be royalties. Session players are paid for their performance in the studio by the hour or for a flat fee.
@gnarshred1239
@gnarshred1239 22 күн бұрын
Would love to see a video breaking down with Bruce kulick
@tyeedwrds
@tyeedwrds Ай бұрын
As a hired gun, what was he supposed to be paid? Not the same as the band members, song writers or producers! A session player, gets scale, confirmed by his own words here. And he said he was paid double scale. If he had written the songs or produced them, maybe he'd have an argument. As for royalties, again he didn't write or publish the material! He was paid to play in the studio, he did and got paid! Being bitter about unrealistic expectations, is a personal issue. As for the "End of the Road" since when is it his choice whom would get to be producer? It's the property of KISS and under their control. Are Paul and Gene angels, probably not, but what did they actually owe him? Elton John, had someone who was a long term sound man, he rewarded him for always being there. Bob, was an at will employee at best! He was paid when he was employed and not when he wasn't! I loved Bobs' work on the KISS material, but he wasn't really a part of the band. In the end, he was envious of Bruce and even had issues with him. Further proving, it was his issues, no one else to blame. If he wanted more, he should have negotiated better!
@JClaus1221
@JClaus1221 Ай бұрын
If you are a session man, you get paid scale and that is it. Even if you contribute to a tune, create a lead, it makes no difference. Very seldom have players been credited on records, PIR was one of the few that did this, and Gamble and Huff never had to do it, they just did. If the Wrecking Crew members had gotten songwriting credits on tunes they played on, they all would have been billionaires. The absolute worst offender of screwing your players was James Brown. He put his name on everything, alone (except with Bobby Byrd who wouldn't put up with the practice), even if the band completely came up with the groove, the licks and the lines made no difference. Everything was written and produced by James Brown. That was and is the business, if you don't have it in writing and only work with knowledge your get equal part you are screwed.
@pb12661
@pb12661 Ай бұрын
session guys didn't/don't write the songs. so, they aren't entitled to royalties. He knew that going in...any session player knows that........He should have focused on song writing if he wanted to make the big money. and then, how ironic it was that it was his brother who made good money with Kiss and became a member. lol Sorry, but he was just a bitter guy. Kiss didn't owe him anything. JMTC
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
I think Bob was a great guy. He was very sociable, he knew people, had connections. I think Bob supported his younger brother Bruce, he pushed him and helped him a lot to make a career in the music business. He was a touring guitarist in Meat Loaf and Bruce was with him. Bob was friends with Paul and Gene and that's how Bruce got in KISS. Bob told them to get his younger brother in the band. Without Bob, it would have been somebody else, not Bruce. So I think Bob did a lot to his brother Bruce and tried really hard make something big and he did. And he felt bitter because in the end he didn't have what he deserved for all his hard work.
@vincentgarzoli3197
@vincentgarzoli3197 Ай бұрын
Royalties come in different forms. The kind of royalty he could have received from his recorded work with KISS, or any other artist is called a Mechsnical Royalty. This is the same form of royalty performers get when they record a cover tune. Now, whether or not he would actually get paid a mechanical royalty us contingent on having a contract that specifies so. Do you think that Paul and Gene would have signed that contract, if they could get Bob to play for scale only? I suspect the answer is no. Also, Robben Ford and others pinch hit for Ace during that period, and I have never heard any of them complain about only receiving scale without mechanicals.
@lanatrzczka
@lanatrzczka Ай бұрын
I've always thought that Bob played A+ level guitar on D minus material, at least where KISS is concerned.
@SuperFlanders123
@SuperFlanders123 Ай бұрын
Same old shit KISS-----> BUSINESS...
@entelikey1
@entelikey1 Ай бұрын
Anyone know which songs he worked on with Dio? It’s not on his Wiki.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Oh good question! As far as I remember he produced the cover of 'Dream On' performed by Dio and Yngwie Malmsteen. Please correct me if I'm wrong
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Yes I think it's correct. In 1999, Ronnie James Dio, Yngwie Malmsteen, Stu Hamm, Gregg Bissonette and Paul Taylor covered the song for the Aerosmith tribute album Not the Same Old Song and Dance. Additional guitars were by the album's producers Bob Kulick and Bruce Bouillet. Bob produced the album.
@entelikey1
@entelikey1 Ай бұрын
@@karsguitarchannel6088 Wow, the power of you tube. Thank you all for your replies. I will re listen to that song. I like to think that Ronnie was a nicer guy to work with. ..Born on the Sun 🌞 he was..
@shawnstarks1743
@shawnstarks1743 Ай бұрын
You ever notice how all these ruthless people have long lives. (Makes you wonder)
@rirchardrubio5621
@rirchardrubio5621 Ай бұрын
At first Bob auditioned for Kiss before Ace. Paul said he was really good. So why did they not hire him? I think it was because of his loosing his Hair. I know that was one of the big reasons.
@HappyMachorino-bd8no
@HappyMachorino-bd8no Ай бұрын
There is a story, Ace said to all the other auditioners: "I'm the new guitarist. You all can go home"😂
@rnt77
@rnt77 Ай бұрын
exactly correct. unfortunately his baldness was a MAJOR factor
@guitarherocallahan3510
@guitarherocallahan3510 Ай бұрын
RIP Bob Kulick!
@scottwhite2757
@scottwhite2757 Ай бұрын
Great pic's Have a Rocking Great Day Kar !!!
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Big thanks Scott, glad to see you! Have an awesome rocking day you too
@insin5905
@insin5905 Ай бұрын
Great video. Bob was a great talent. I love Paul but he is one of the meanest, obsessive and miserable people in rock and roll. He really needs help.
@PrinceofPain-wv1lo
@PrinceofPain-wv1lo Ай бұрын
Paul has been in perpetual therapy since 15
@HappyMachorino-bd8no
@HappyMachorino-bd8no Ай бұрын
Why did Vinnie Vincent then adore Paul? "He is really, a really extremely kind soul". And: "I love him" (EXPO talks Part I and Part II). Paul knew about his "dark" side and tried to get help at the age of 16. He went to a clinic. I really admire his intelligence. At a Soundcheck last year he even told the audience: when you have depressions ask for professional help. It's not fair to blame Paul for other people's difficulties in their lifes and careers.
@mr.timebombman2230
@mr.timebombman2230 Ай бұрын
Bob liked to reiterate multiple times in every interview about being a Grammy award winning producer. He's now telling every soul that'll listen in the afterlife about it.
@evileyes4070
@evileyes4070 Ай бұрын
Bob involved in some good WASP tracks
@mrsmith7939
@mrsmith7939 Ай бұрын
Not heard most of the stuff mentioned here but from other projects the name Kulick = quality.
@Triple3hot
@Triple3hot Ай бұрын
He was hired for tasks and paid. Business transactions, nothing different than hiring a plumber
@daveb8449
@daveb8449 Ай бұрын
If he didn't like the wage, he shouldn't have worked for them.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Paul paid Bob very well. It was good money in 1978. $3,600 in 1978 is worth about $17,341 today. I think Bob felt bitter and disrespected because he wanted to do more work with KISS and get some decent money but Paul and Gene were not interested. That was the problem.
@trollsandfools
@trollsandfools Ай бұрын
I met Bob a few years back and I have to say, he's a stand-up guy. I full heartedly feel sad for him because as a musician, he was really never in a band of his own. He was a hired gun/session player. Did Gene and Paul rip him off? Of course they did, they ripped a lot of people off. This happens in the music business a lot. I had a couple of friends who were publicist in L.A., in the 90's. They would tell me these horrid stories that he heard from the bands themselves. It's a cutthroat business. Touring, royalties, and publishing rights and producing is where the money is. If you don't negotiate that clause in the contract before work, you're screwed, at the same time, a band will just find someone else to work with.
@danielh1830
@danielh1830 Ай бұрын
Did Bob "play" on the record, or did he write any of the licks or guitar parts? He should only get royalties if he has earned publish rights, but if he was playing what someone else wrote, then he is not entitled to publishing rights.
@Donaldwpierce
@Donaldwpierce Ай бұрын
Sounds like he did not know any attorneys
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Bob said he met an attorney (a music guy) in Vegas in 2019. He said he was gonna represent him on some cases.
@HappyMachorino-bd8no
@HappyMachorino-bd8no Ай бұрын
​@@karsguitarchannel6088 But was this attorney realistic? That's the question. Vinnie Vincent lost 14 lawsuits. In his EXPO talk he was full of self-pity. All the judges said: "F*ck you, Vinnie!"
@pf100andahalf
@pf100andahalf Ай бұрын
Kar's is the best rock story channel without being sensationalist. Kar is the real deal.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Big thanks, I appreciate very much!!
@bigtorrisi
@bigtorrisi 23 күн бұрын
This story is as hold as the hills. A session man is pissed off he doesn't get any "royalties", that's the gig dude, you're paid up front. If a builder builds your house, then you sell it, he doesn't get a cut of the profits does he, he's already been paid.
@teresasilverlight2759
@teresasilverlight2759 Ай бұрын
look how taylor swift treats her people
@stanlee-eq7lu
@stanlee-eq7lu 18 күн бұрын
Bob was a really good musician and very diverse in his talents. Being he knew KISS for a long time, he should have known had Paul and Gene open their wallets, moths would come out.
@luchagain3424
@luchagain3424 Ай бұрын
These videos are ridiculous. These artists signed contracts and agreed to the payment. Whether that be a one time fee or points. Or anything in between. I do not feel bad for any of these guys who cry that they only got paid X amount of dollars and then their work goes on to generate millions and millions. Stop blaming other people when you agreed to the terms.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
It wasn't all about the money. Bob couldn't get the gig with KISS because Paul and Gene wanted a tall guy with long hair. Bob said that when he got the gig with Paul Stanley in 1989, his brother Bruce said, "What do you do? Are you trying to steal my gig?" And when Gene wanted Bob to play on his solo record, Paul said, "He played on mine! You can't use him on yours." Things like that... That's why Bob felt bitter and disrespected.
@JohnLesniewski-np7jg
@JohnLesniewski-np7jg Ай бұрын
Bob played on those KISS albums because Ace sadly couldn't or didn't want to show up. So he bailed them out but keep it hush hush. Paul never said anything when Bob passed away.
@danielhill4446
@danielhill4446 Ай бұрын
Bob should have negotiated a better payday. Sad to say it but a wig would have got him in the band!
@eliphaslevi520
@eliphaslevi520 Ай бұрын
Kiss literally broke his heart
@LEIFanevret
@LEIFanevret Ай бұрын
Great solos! On paulies solo album
@delian1671
@delian1671 Ай бұрын
I really like Bob’s work. He’s an underrated contributor to the KISS legacy. That said, his bashing of Ace and bitterness was always unbecoming. He was always in Frehley’s shadow. Were his solos on Alive 2 great? Yeah.. but Ace’s Rocket Ride was the best song on that side 4. The solo was outstanding. Did Bob do a great job with Paul’s solo album? For sure. Was the album better than Ace’s? Nope
@dannyholloway2007
@dannyholloway2007 Ай бұрын
I have to agree with some other comments. The fact that Bob did not get royalties on his work is his fault. If you really love music, then you have to respect and understand the business side. You can create your own publishing in this country with next to nothing and most people do not realize it. I love music too. I will definitely always have the rights to my own work and my lawyer close by. That is just how the world works.
@Acejustforalaugh
@Acejustforalaugh 16 күн бұрын
Everybody gets mistreated by Paul and Gene !!
@JoeyP322
@JoeyP322 Ай бұрын
They should’ve hired Bob instead of Ace.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
As far as I know Bob couldn't get the gig because Paul and Gene wanted a tall guy with long hair.
@JeffTullock-yx1hd
@JeffTullock-yx1hd Ай бұрын
Just stop.
@HappyMachorino-bd8no
@HappyMachorino-bd8no Ай бұрын
Paul wrote he knew from the beginning that Ace was the one. The🎸 sound. And ACE HAD AURA.
@Kirkvanhouten55
@Kirkvanhouten55 Ай бұрын
session guys don't get royalties unless they have a writing credit
@HappyMachorino-bd8no
@HappyMachorino-bd8no Ай бұрын
But Bob has a co-writing credit on UNMASKED for "Naked City". An awesome song! And he is credited for playing additional guitar.
@MrOccyc
@MrOccyc 20 күн бұрын
Not for nothing, you’re not signing a contract to guarantee royalties? What’s wrong with you?
@lucym276
@lucym276 11 күн бұрын
He got what every session player got and that’s whatever they negotiated nothing more nothing less sour grapes that’s it.
@iceWaterProductions1
@iceWaterProductions1 Ай бұрын
Respect from low life ghouls like these people equals squat to me, I’ll take the money. Even better than that I want publishing credits that’s where the real money never stops by checks for sales and broadcasts.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
I think Paul paid Bob very well. It was good money in 1978. $3,600 in 1978 is worth about $17,341 today. I think Bob felt bitter and disrespected because he wanted to do more work with KISS and get some decent money but Paul and Gene were not interested. That was the problem.
@mikerivera7509
@mikerivera7509 Ай бұрын
Kiss discriminated against him for being bald when he tried out for the band
@HappyMachorino-bd8no
@HappyMachorino-bd8no 29 күн бұрын
In a rock band you have to look and dress like a rockstar. This is not discrimination. It's normality. Secondly, maybe it was up to Bob? He didn't want to wear a wig, and didn't want to shave off his moustache? It's irrelevant. Because Paul knew from the beginning that Ace was the right guy. Bob became bitter, at Ace, at Paul, at his own brother.
@HappyMachorino-bd8no
@HappyMachorino-bd8no Ай бұрын
Bob Kulick🌹RIP had no self-respect. That's why he felt disrespected. The reason must be in his childhood. KISS definitely helped him with his career🎸. But God gave aura to Ace. Not to Bob. No one is to blame.
@lazarethneptune6969
@lazarethneptune6969 Ай бұрын
DUDE!!!! Larger than life is of of my fav kiss songs!!! I would always say "ACE KILLED THAT SOLO!" Then I found out it was Bruce. My attitude toward Ace as a great soloist has changed Now that it's out he would never show up to record!!! THAT'S FUCKING SAD!!!!
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Awesome! however it wasn't Bruce on the record, it was Bob
@zebdoz333
@zebdoz333 Ай бұрын
Sounds like it’s a good idea not to do business with Kiss , or Simmons and Stanley huh
@HappyMachorino-bd8no
@HappyMachorino-bd8no Ай бұрын
On the other hand it's the music he made with KISS what made him immortal. (RIP) Bob Kulick🌹 And Paul's solo album. I didn't even know, that he was touring with "Meat Loaf". But I love his KISS work🎸.
@lancecharley8822
@lancecharley8822 Ай бұрын
I know I heard the narrator mention W.A.S.P. and I'm surprised to not hear about his involvement maybe Blackie Lawless had something against him I don't know about that to be honest but hearing his involvement with Meatloaf very new to me and very interesting I love Bat Out Of Hell as well too
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Yes Bob was in the touring band in Meat Loaf. Bob played lead/rhythm and his brother Bruce was with him. Bruce played rhythm/lead on that tour.
@tonymorrell2353
@tonymorrell2353 16 күн бұрын
Never mind Bob. I mean I get it. But if he was paid what he agreed to 🤷 but let's talk about the fraud of kiss saying they did a live album 🤣🤣🤣 the overdubbed all that crap pretty much and the used "ghost" musicians a lot. That's a fraud. Hey if you're not good enough to play your parts just be honest. People should of been credited back when the albums came out so people could decide if they wanted to buy albums by bands that couldn't play their own songs. Yes kiss put on great shows but they sucked live. They were a fraud band in my opinion.
@Jeffrey-hk4fq
@Jeffrey-hk4fq Ай бұрын
🤔What about the artist who designed the Rolling Stones logo 💋👅$300(?)
@rokinrandy
@rokinrandy Ай бұрын
I’m not paid what I’m worth either. I’m a key player that makes a difference for people that make all the money . They don’t even have a clue. And don’t care either. People love their delusion. Whatever they worship. Themselves. So they don’t care. Just how the world is
@flazjsg
@flazjsg Ай бұрын
Heard him on Eddie Trunk. He was pretty arrogant. "Ace Frehley plays like the sloppy Jimmy Page, I play like the cleaner Jimmy Page." He said something to that effect. You guys should try to play like yourselves is what I'd tell them! People like Elton John and Taylor Swift with their generosity are the exception, not the rule to the music business. Too bad that Bob died so young.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
Bob couldn't get the gig with KISS because Paul and Gene wanted a tall guy with long hair. Bob said that when he got the gig with Paul Stanley in 1989, his brother Bruce said, "What do you do? Are you trying to steal my gig?" And when Gene wanted Bob to play on his solo record, Paul said, "He played on mine! You can't use him on yours." Things like that... That's why Bob felt bitter and disrespected.
@HappyMachorino-bd8no
@HappyMachorino-bd8no Ай бұрын
Bob (RIP) must have lost touch with reality. Elton John's sound manager was NOT a session guy! His senseless comparison is an alarming symptom that something went wrong with Bob. He was very frightening in his last interviews.
@berniecasey7592
@berniecasey7592 4 күн бұрын
Im glad the Truth got out Gene & Paul are cheap bums with egos.
@user-fi7ju4nj9b
@user-fi7ju4nj9b Ай бұрын
So let's talk about the session guys with Steely Dan -- some of the best ever, putting pure magic into mediocre songs, but getting little of the fame and none of the fortune.
@LEIFanevret
@LEIFanevret Ай бұрын
Ego fame and money runs over honesty! Nasty business! Dont matter what line of work you got in this world very few exceptions! If any
@atomicpunk8031
@atomicpunk8031 Ай бұрын
Nobody him ripped off
@PanosArvanitis
@PanosArvanitis Ай бұрын
Simmons and Stanley ,typical Jews.Money is their God.As always.
@karsguitarchannel6088
@karsguitarchannel6088 Ай бұрын
I think Paul paid Bob very well. $3600 in 1978 is worth about $18000 today. I think Bob wanted to work more with KISS and get more money but Paul and Gene were not interested. That's what made Bob feeling bitter and disrespected. Besides Bob worked successfully as a producer and had his own projects.
@HappyMachorino-bd8no
@HappyMachorino-bd8no Ай бұрын
You're missing the point. Bob and Bruce are/were fellow Jews. Therefore anti-Semitic strereo types are absurd. Bob's bitterness comes from his jealousy. He wanted to be bigger in KISS than his little brother. When he said his favourite guitarist in KISS was a studio guy, he humiliated not only Ace, he wanted to hurt Bruce. Bob was so bitter and aggressive, that Bruce had to get a restraining order against his own brother.
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