Kawai CN29 vs Yamaha CLP625 | Helping You Choose Which Piano To Buy

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@young-haechi6490 Жыл бұрын

With Yamaha you were creating a beautiful sound, with Kawai you were writing a poem.

@GrandNoteGallery 2 жыл бұрын

Sound comparison Kawai - 1:31 , 7:26 Yamaha - 2:47 , 8:25

@uosilo 4 жыл бұрын

I personally prefer the sound of Kawai. Yamaha does sounds brighter in general, but the high notes are a bit too sharp and ‘noisy’.

@berkayedis2892 4 жыл бұрын

you guys are doing a great job, thanks for the comparison.

@zazou3054 5 жыл бұрын

( sound ) 1:41 : kawai 2:59 : yamaha 7:26 : kawai 8:23 : yamaha

@Anonymous-nk3yr 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@XpVersusVista 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks :) Personally i prefer the Kawai sound over the Yamaha. It sounds smoother somehow.

@hendrataprasetia7671 4 жыл бұрын

I think it's more about the touch quality of the instruments, the sounds sample both are very good (depends on personal taste), but without the best touch quality you will never reach the result of it. And in this section, the Kawai is superb!

@nomissimo 4 жыл бұрын

Especially the second example shows how much better the Kawai sounds. It's such a big difference in terms of quality. Kawai really offers some great value.

@Ilint 3 жыл бұрын

@Brittanie Lawther maybe you should get some bitches

@leif5046 2 жыл бұрын

Came for the review, stayed for the playing. Beautiful.

@jonnieclayton 5 жыл бұрын

Great news about a new showroom in the centre of the UK!

@chandima1988 4 жыл бұрын

If the Kawai volume was up a little bit, i wouldn't have to watch beyond first 4 minutes :) .. Kawai all the way!! Bdw, this is a great video. thank you for taking the effort to explain the tech features..

@user-cj2ch6gd1k 5 жыл бұрын

必須曲集の内蔵曲数とレッスンシステムが豊富なほうが有利。音は好みだが、CN29はカウンターウェイトでpp

@JRueda-uw2cb 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was thinking exactly the same

@PbPomper 3 жыл бұрын

I think the Yamaha sounds more digital. The Kawai has a warmer and more complex/dynamics tone.

@user-xy8ec9nw3u Жыл бұрын

Opposite

@equinoxpete 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Tony, love your videos. Can you please do demos of the new Casio PX-S1000 and the PX-S3000? I'd really like to get your take on them. Thanks.

@DrChaad 4 жыл бұрын

I prefer the sound of this Yamaha, but my past touch tests give Kawai acoustic pianos crisper, more responsive action. I find the gradient weight of the lower-string Yamaha action to be more realistic. All Yamahas I have played have a mushier, more sluggish feel. Might I ask for audio samples of the other voice selections ? Any observations on the pedal effects & mechanism ? 🎹

@misstangshan95 4 жыл бұрын

I've always found Yamaha too mechanical in every way possible, from the touch to the tone, and even feel that way about their acoustic grand pianos. Steinway feels too buttery smooth in comparison and sounds bell-like. But kawai just seems to bridge the gap perfectly between those two things for me

@XpVersusVista 3 жыл бұрын

In my opinion nothing beats the sound of a Steinway grand piano, but kawai is certainly softer than Yamaha and thus i prefer it :)

@MarcusFHurt 4 жыл бұрын

God I love "When She Loved Me" awesome video

@cbsmusic2745 3 жыл бұрын

Kawai sounds softer, Yamaha is brighter with fabrication presets, i think you can change this type differences of sound character by changing the settings.

@legebakken1 3 жыл бұрын

really good video Thanks ! We just bought the Kawai CN39. Hope we do not regret. (I feel that I prefer the brighter sound of the Yamaha heard here.)

@Zoco101 3 жыл бұрын

I am a generally more a fan of Yamaha pianos, but I have to admit that the CN39 looks very promising. I doubt you've made a mistake, and by now you should know anyway. It's always best to try a piano in a showroom if at all possible. I hope to try the CN39 myself soon.

@ind23031980 4 жыл бұрын

Nice review...

@lukastichy7306 3 жыл бұрын

I have Kawai, best choice of my life

@mevelines 2 жыл бұрын

In my opinion, yamaha is good for pop songs. But for classical, kawai is much better.

@kelvinkohfromsingapore8689 Жыл бұрын

Kawai beat the Yamaha hand down. Kawai is more full body, warm and natural sounding. Yamaha is very bright and thinny sounding.

@user-me7on8kb5u 3 жыл бұрын

I prefer the Kawaii for better quality, sound and estetic

@Hargiwald 4 жыл бұрын

Besides the sound, I slightly prefer the Kawai shape too. Just wish it'd come in polished ebony, so it could fit better into my more classicaly furnished living room. But hey, I'm yet to play these myself, so Yamaha might still win out in the end.

@marceloarenas5486 4 жыл бұрын

Considering the Yamaha was played with a higher volume to "impress" a little bit more, nothing beats the Kawai tibre.

@ChilloutLibrary 3 жыл бұрын

Yea, Kawai CN29 sounds much more natural

@zdravkozdravka4313 3 жыл бұрын

@@ChilloutLibrary which keyboard (key action) is better?? (like acoustic piano keyboard)

@benjaminsmith2287 3 жыл бұрын

It wasn't played at a higher volume although he did seem to emphasize the melody more when he played the Yamaha.

@empireentertainmentevents1353 3 жыл бұрын

yes, the Yamaha was put at a louder volume...so it is not a fair comparison. People tend to think that the louder one is better....which it is not. Kawai sounded really cool too. cant go wrong with Yamaha either.

@benjaminsmith2287 3 жыл бұрын

@@empireentertainmentevents1353 I've found in most Kawai/Yamaha comparison the Yamaha sounds softer, not louder and that includes Bonner's comparisons. And didn't most people say they like the Kawai better regardless?

@ralfloose2125 3 жыл бұрын

I think the Yamaha Voices just sound clearer, and I like the CFX grand piano sound! That's why I've been playing Yamaha keyboards for 20 years rather than Korg

@marcusangelodecastro6640 3 жыл бұрын

hmmm not really ...it sounds fake to me but the kawai sounds natural

@user-me7on8kb5u 3 жыл бұрын

Kawaii it’s better

@user-xy8ec9nw3u 2 жыл бұрын

Kawai without thinking

@Hydrawindforce 3 жыл бұрын

The Kawai one makes me more moved

@nomsodka Жыл бұрын

i can’t decide between kawai cn 29 and yamaha ydp 165. i only play classical pieces so i don’t really care about other sounds apart from grand/acoustic piano sounds. i think yamaha is too bright in higher keys and kawai is a bit too warm for classical music but i’m not too sure since i haven’t tried them myself😭 love kawai’s user interfaces better than yamaha’s but i’m fine with both. the main things i’m really looking for are the piano sounds and key actions. i heard that kawai’s key weight can change from light to heavy and vice versa (not sure) and yamaha’s sound can be adjusted in app (but i don’t know how the sound would change tho. is it the tone or the volume? might need to figure that out later) so those things make it harder for me to decide😭 anyone wanna share your experience/any advice?

@elainegao 2 жыл бұрын

Nice review. Can anybody recognize what song is played in the first 3 mins of this video?

@jiweonjun6787 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for great reviews....! Which one would your recommend, between cn29 and Kurzweil cup320?

@arvindiyer1649 3 жыл бұрын

Kurzweil has no escapement. If you're a classical pianist, you will miss out on this feature. This is there in cn29

@causese2620 4 жыл бұрын

anything better than kawai CN29 in the 1500~ price range? from a sound / action perspective (mostly interested in playing classical music) extra polyphony doesn't sound like a good reason to spend more and I'm not interested in gimmick features edit: i went with a vpc 1

@crystaloffrost 4 жыл бұрын

I just bought the kawai cn39 instead of 29. I think the front looking speakers really make a difference. The sound is more direct and in your face :), so to say.

@crystaloffrost 4 жыл бұрын

@@uni8894 I think you meant CN37. It was exactly the same price as cn39 in my store :).. and the cn39 has some upgrades over the old model.New speaker system, new main piano sound(shigeru kawai 5) etc.

@crystaloffrost 4 жыл бұрын

U N I Well It feels good, but I am not a pro so I did some research before buying, I learned that NORD is also using same kawai keyboard action :) for their products. I did not have other brands to compare in the same shop but It must be good enough :).

@crystaloffrost 4 жыл бұрын

@@uni8894 No, first I read everything online, watched reviews, then first went to an Yamaha dealer, then visited the Kawai dealer. But actually in my mind I had already decided for the Kawai before arriving to Yamaha dealer. Originally I wanted to buy the CN29, because you cant feel the difefernce from videos. But when I heard the volume difference and the difference caused by the extra front facing speakers in CN39 I felt compeleld to spend the extra Money for CN39. One deciding factor was that: Every few years the digital piano models are getting renewed and after few years our pianos will be perceived as old, so even if you want ot sell it you will not be able. So these pianos will stay at home for life. So I decided to buy the better one.

@lalnunsangaasanga5801 5 жыл бұрын

Kawai is better and beutifull sound.

@MridulDhirajKhanna 3 жыл бұрын

@bonnersmusic which one would you recommend between CN 29 and CLP 735??

@narulaamitsk 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you creating this video. Very informative. Do you also have a suggestion between KAWAI CA39 vs Yamaha CLP 635. Thanks in advance!

@benjaminsmith2287 4 жыл бұрын

@@uni8894 The big, big thing is that the CLP635 has VRM, virtual resonance modeling. That makes a big difference in controlling the resonance, brightness and other aspects of the tone. And if you want a discount CLP635, without the Bosendorfer voice and very mild escapement in the action, get a YDP184. It's virtually the same instrument that is just $100 US more than then CLP625. I'm not a fan of the CLP625 because it lacks VRM.

@DrChaad 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the technical detail. By "mellow", do you mean less bright ? (It's Bösendorfer, not Bozendorfer, ya Bozo.) BTW, I believe the hallmark of the Bösendorfer concert grand is the clarity in the extreme high and low strings, in addition to its unmatched responsive action .

@benjaminsmith2287 4 жыл бұрын

I don't know about "mellow" either. The real Bosendorfer Imperial is an imposing instrument with a thunderous bass. The CFX is rather delicate by comparison with a "lighter" tone. Now, in the digitized form that may be different.

@w0bblyd0inkb0ink 3 жыл бұрын

My brain likes Yamaha, my heart like Kawai.

@Zeronas87 3 жыл бұрын

Why ? Please explain. I’m a beginner and try to make a decision.

@w0bblyd0inkb0ink 3 жыл бұрын

@@Zeronas87 Go Yamaha and you can’t go wrong long term, Kawai sounds good but they have some mechnical design issue with the keys itself so there’s a higher chance you might end up with broken digital piano.

@PianoMan-hx3ev 3 жыл бұрын

My brain likes Yamaha, my heart likes Kawai, my wallet likes CASIO.

@GalantGoStudio 3 жыл бұрын

@@PianoMan-hx3ev 😁

@fuatd.3908 3 жыл бұрын

@@PianoMan-hx3ev lol :)

@juliangst 5 жыл бұрын

Yesterday I tested a bunch of e pianos from kawai and yamaha and wasn‘t really impressed by the more expensive ones. I will probably wait for the cn39 and get that because the cn37 seemed to be quite good.

@zain4019 5 жыл бұрын

juliangst The CN27/29 and CN37/39 all use the same key action, RH3, although the CN37/39 have an upgraded sound system (Hi-xl), and the CN29 and CN 39 also have an upgraded speaker system, made in part by Onkyo.

@zdravkozdravka4313 3 жыл бұрын

@@zain4019 which key action is better? (more like acoustic piano) cn29 or clp 625?

@ciri151 3 жыл бұрын

@@zain4019 Lol i've seen you comment on several videos now. All you're doing is spreading misinformation.. The cn29 and cn39 don't have the same action.

@arvindiyer1649 3 жыл бұрын

@@zdravkozdravka4313 I tried both kawai and yamaha amd compared to acoustic upright(rutmuller and bechstein) and 5 ft grand (kawai). I found the kawai to be more closer to an acoustic in terms of both action and sound

@keagandodo8905 2 жыл бұрын

Great review. What is the name of the second piece you play on both pianos?

@sgtmahoney Жыл бұрын

It's actually from the movie Toy Story 2. It's called When Somebody Loved Me, and it's perhaps the saddest scene in any Pixar movie. Edit: It might be called "When She Loved Me". Nonetheless, still Toy Story 2. Still sad AF.

@YouTubeIsAssHo 3 жыл бұрын

Kawai, hands down.

@camfg8908 5 жыл бұрын

Haha their outlook is very similar. I cannot notice a difference there. Although they sound a bit different

@XpVersusVista 3 жыл бұрын

Yamaha sounds more "sterile" and a bit more lifeless. Just too mechanical for my taste.

@user-me7on8kb5u 3 жыл бұрын

Kawaii sound more “natural” and better

@watchingyoutube7330 2 жыл бұрын

Are you aware of any high quality keyboards or digital pianos that will show you the chord that you are playing on the LCD screen?

@cresshead 4 жыл бұрын

your yamaha url link doesn't work... "unable to find page"

@birix9716 Жыл бұрын

For having tested both of these piano in store, the Kawai cn29 is soooo much better for the the sound and quality touch than the yamaha

@xhivo97 5 жыл бұрын

What are your thoughts on the action of the VPC1? Does it compare to upright acoustics like the K15? Or even to the CA78 digital?

@sara9561 3 жыл бұрын

I dont know wich one to buy help

@user-me7on8kb5u 3 жыл бұрын

Kawaii it’s perfect

@sobine 3 жыл бұрын

I have some troubles making a decision of buying a digital piano. Can you please help me out choosing between Kawai CN 29, Yamaha CLP625 and Casio AP470? All of these three digital pianos have quite similar features. The prices are similar as well. Which one will you recommend? (I am used to Yamaha upright piano.) Thanks.

@user-xy8ec9nw3u Жыл бұрын

Forget Casio Yamaha good sound . But Kawai more superior

@RobertHopkinsArt 5 жыл бұрын

Great review Tony! Thank you. An honest comparison. It has been reported in the forums (PW) that the RHIII action is a lighter action than the GH3X action. Can you confirm that for us? Maybe even throw some weights on them to let us know the down/up weights of C4? Thanks again!

@RobertHopkinsArt 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the advice Davide! I currently do have an MP11 and am wanting to update to a new piano with better samples. I know the RHIII is great because I have played an ES8 and it was nice and easy to play. I have my eye on the new Nord Grand too that also uses the Kawai RHIII action. Much appreciated!

@ferdearmas8732 5 жыл бұрын

Hi, I agree friend, i'm enjoying even the old RHII key action in my DP...!

@RobertHopkinsArt 5 жыл бұрын

Fer De Armas: I am glad your RHII is working well for you!

@Instrumental-Covers 2 жыл бұрын

I don't think Kawai's tone/timbre is "better" than Yamaha. The Kawai timbre has often times less brilliance, similar to turning the treble knob down in a stereo. For the piece played, that type of piano sound with rolled-off treble is more suitable, which is why people here seem to prefer the Kawai. But that doesn't make this Kawai better. The same effect can be pretty much achieved on the Yamaha by turning down the brilliance (which is a parameter available). Acoustic pianos have a fixed piano sound that you cannot change (although a piano technician can modify its tone), but a digital piano is a different story. Digital pianos don't have the same level of unique character that an acoustic piano has. As I said, you can get that Yamaha sound dark, muddy and soft like a Kawai and vice versa.

@runder2022 Жыл бұрын

So kawai sound better😎

@islaadele1212 2 жыл бұрын

Is it just me or is the bass much richer on the Yamaha? Slightly perturbed because I've been set on Kawai for a while and now may need to rethink... 😬

@Fromatic 2 жыл бұрын

its hard to tell as you dont know how shape of the room could be affecting the sounds with the pianos facing different directions, then theres differences in volume levels and we dont know how hard he his playing the keys on each. Make sure you just try them both in person before buying

@valeriauwu3234 2 жыл бұрын

Tienen envíos a México?

@agparag 2 жыл бұрын

Not all songs fit for the mellow kawai sound. Cfx has very clean sound.

@fr4nk45 4 жыл бұрын

How is the build quality of these instruments? Does it compare to a acoustic piano? As in there is real wood being used? Are they heavy and sturdily build? Thank you very much for the review!

@Andrew-tl9gk 4 жыл бұрын

Even the highest range of Yamaha or Kawai are chipboard wood. I think the quality is the same as the CA79 oder CA99. You cant compare this to a real piano.

@kartikkatoch6311 4 жыл бұрын

Hello, i live in India and want to buy cn29 but I can't find it. Is there anyway I can buy this piano in India from a kawai store or any other of there dealers pls help

@rishim6816 4 жыл бұрын

Where are you located? Check out 'Theme Music'. They are official importers and distributors for Kawai in India.

@sathyajammi5564 3 жыл бұрын

What was the first song that he played, it was very melodious.

@muzikhocam60 2 жыл бұрын

Kawai 👍🏻

@adleneboulebtateche156 4 жыл бұрын

the Kawai is definitely better sounding.

@averell3138 4 жыл бұрын

nah i think the yamaha was way better

@dontsubscribeme9547 3 жыл бұрын

@@averell3138 get an appointment to an ENT expert

@benjaminsmith2287 3 жыл бұрын

@@averell3138 "Better" is so subjective. I think people like the bass of the Kawai because people tend to like a good amount of bass. But, in my opinion, if you listen to the "voice" of the Yamaha in both the CFX and Bosendorfer voices, it's more expressive and a bit "edgy." However, the Kawai is lusher, fuller, and washes the sound more. But they both have their appealing aspects to their sound, in my opinion. I don't know why people always look for "better" rather than really get into the sound and characteristics of each. Maybe it's because Yamaha is the "big dog" or just some don't care for them. But Yamahas sell great, so they do have a big following.

@the_newvoice 2 жыл бұрын

1:40 Damn. When i will play like that?! Probably never)

@Scharnvirk 4 жыл бұрын

The question is, was the cn-series noisy keys issue fixed on the kawai cn-29?

@collen9016 4 жыл бұрын

What was this issue and has it been resolved?

@Scharnvirk 4 жыл бұрын

@@collen9016 The issue was that Kawai cn-series pianos developed loud clicking noise on their keys, and even new unit I was trying at the store had louder click than other pianos around. Whether the issue was fixed I have no idea, you need to google up. I eventually bought Roland F140R and I did not look back since.

@collen9016 4 жыл бұрын

@@Scharnvirk thanks for the info- will look into it

@MsOfficialbelieber 4 жыл бұрын

Col Len did you find more information?

@adriantovias8681 5 жыл бұрын

CLP 625 is already pretty outdated, just wait less than a year and the new CLP 725 will be released, heck, is getting announced on NAMM January 2020.

@jamespadgett2537 4 жыл бұрын

adrian tovias how expensive will that be

@royzevisionneur2045 4 жыл бұрын

I just want someone to release their app on Android, I'm not going to buy Apple's garbages to use Virtual Technican!

@benjaminsmith2287 4 жыл бұрын

It wasn't released. Maybe next NAMM. I hope the CLP725 has VRM.

@benjaminsmith2287 3 жыл бұрын

It's now released. But it still lacks piano room where you can change so many of the sound parameters. I still pass on it for that reason.

@md5016 2 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminsmith2287 "Because there is no piano room" lol! I chose between 735 and 725 and chose 725! 725 clavinova excellent result. This is an updated CFX, VRM and a new great keyboard GrandTouch-S (!!!). The sound of the speakers is bad and you need an external speaker system that can be configured as you like! P.S. The sound on the 735 speakers is just as bad as on the 725.

@isidrogarcia8048 4 жыл бұрын

What was the first song he played?

@jt2553 4 жыл бұрын

Isidro Garcia “Through The Eyes Of Love” from “Ice Castles.”

@Taichientaoyin 3 жыл бұрын

Kawai fan here. The more I watch videos the more enticed I become to the kawai tones. It wil be mine soon, my precious. Kawais action is also superior to Yamaha's. Kawai ca79 wait for me little one.

@Zoco101 3 жыл бұрын

The videos help, but as Bonner's keep saying, nothing beats trying an instrument for yourself. It may sound quite different when you're playing it, and the pianist's experience is the one that matters most, particularly on a home piano.

@Taichientaoyin 3 жыл бұрын

@@Zoco101 yes indeed!

@blackpinktingz 4 жыл бұрын

Whats the songs name at 1:32 ?? Pls help

@d1s0n4nce 4 жыл бұрын

Looking through the eyes of love

@dennismortimer3103 4 жыл бұрын

Blackpinktingz yes theme from ice castles

@illusionyx907 Жыл бұрын

Why you sound Kowai instead of Kawai...)

@fluffybuttercup2132 3 жыл бұрын

7:27 8:25 I had my decision :)

@mertydn_3022 5 жыл бұрын

Can anyone help me? I want to buy a piano but i cant decide between Yamaha YDP163 and Kawai CN29. Which one should i buy and why?

@CarlosMendez-fx9hs 5 жыл бұрын

Between the two, Id get the Kawai CN29. Better action, newer, and I believe better speakers as well. It is more expensive though(I have to check but Im pretty sure the Cn29 would be about $2000 because that was around the price of the cn27)

@zain4019 5 жыл бұрын

Carlos Mendez *1899 USD

@ferdearmas8732 5 жыл бұрын

Hi, Kawai RHIII is for many people the best folded key action right now in the market, of course tastes may vary, and you can agree or not, i invite to you to share your opinion about this...!

@benjaminsmith2287 4 жыл бұрын

Consider the YDP164 in the comparison, not the 163. The YDP164 has an upgraded sound engine which is a significant change. There is no better between Kawai and Yamaha. One may prefer one or the other. But neither is better than the other.

@merveozbey5008 4 жыл бұрын

Hangisini tercih ettin?Ben de kawai cn29 ile Yamaha ydp164 arasında kaldım.İkisini aynı yerde satan bir yer olmadığı için karşılaştıramıyorum da.Biri zuhalde biri doremusicte.

@andykeri8370 2 жыл бұрын

They look identical. Probably made in the same factory .

@user-zv4qb9nh1h 3 жыл бұрын

가와이가 훨씬 좋다. 두 피아노를 비교해주셔서 감사합니다.

@saatiiaarsa6565 4 жыл бұрын

Kawai Cn29 or yamaha ydp164?🙂

@zdravkozdravka4313 3 жыл бұрын

No answer.. 😟 But probably cn29..

@gideonz74b 3 жыл бұрын

Different price class. YDP164 compares more to KDP110

@benjaminsmith2287 3 жыл бұрын

@@gideonz74b I think the YDP144 compares to the KDP110. The 164 is more expensive and has nicer action and keys and better speakers but sounds the same in headphones.

@AllenLeloIsmail 5 жыл бұрын

What song is it beginning at 7:26 ?

@krajdev27 5 жыл бұрын

It's from Toy Story 2! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e9KYlbeksNnWn6c.html

@AllenLeloIsmail 5 жыл бұрын

@@krajdev27 much appreciated!

@AllenArt64 3 жыл бұрын

Love the vids, but am I the only one who cringes when he leans his elbow on the keys? LOL

@jasminejamez 2 жыл бұрын

Me too, me too. Thank God you said it 🙌🏾

@jarradtj214 4 жыл бұрын

It’s the Kawai all the way for me, the Yamaha is not even close in the quality of the sound. I have a es110 which sounds amazing for its price. Ive always disliked Yamaha. They are a jack of all trades and master of none, it’s the same with their guitars, motorbikes etc of which I’ve had experience with both, their products always have a few major things that’s annoying about them. Eg the guitar necks are stupidly skinny and on the mt09 (motorbike) it has a stupid on off throttle.

@ralfloose2125 3 жыл бұрын

what is a kawai es-110? Children's toys! For me the best stage piano is the yamaha P-515 with the CFX grand piano sound!

@user-me7on8kb5u 3 жыл бұрын

@@ralfloose2125 no Kawaii is much better