Kawawada kumite Shoto Cup 1985

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17 жыл бұрын

Kumite highlights from 1st JKA Shoto Cup (Tokyo, 1985) featuring:
Kawawada v Koike Kawawada v Kagawa Kawawada v Yokomichi
Commentary by M. Nakayama

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@MDIS 14 жыл бұрын

Trust me ; i had fought with some of the Shotokan and Okinawan Goju Karate-kas , and they really go FULL CONTACT when permitted and their control and sharpness is unequalled. Respect to the Shotokan and Okinawan Goju and all martial artists

@mikeodonovan9299 4 жыл бұрын

I love Japanese karate from this era. I first trained in Japan in 1987 for 3 months. No internet, you tube. You went blind. For a foreigner it was quite intimidating to start with. There was a high level of karate of the instructors and they had a real presence. Sparring with no gloves, there was a kind of a menace to it. Miss those days.

@totopitbull 15 жыл бұрын

O karatê dessa época é bem melhor que hoje em dia. Parece que não evoliu. Foi uma época de ouro do karatê dominado pelo Japão. Grandes nomes do karatê que se ainda lutassem dariam muito trabalho para a geração atual.

@rafaelandrade3575 Жыл бұрын

Correção, não perderiam, isso garanto mas o karatê de Hoje isso é até proibido Karatê Balé!

@rtt1961 Жыл бұрын

That jump uraken @ 2:13 was spectacular.

@alimanslayer 11 жыл бұрын

it is game with a lot of artistic value, many different styles, the fact that it is not just a street fight is the value of karate

@MarcoOviedo 14 жыл бұрын

I really can´t get why is funny. There are two stylists in a great demostration of the art, with the appropiate control and careful execution.

@patio87 15 жыл бұрын

Karate Kumite is very similar to a Kendo match in the competition scene, very cool.

@Cyrus_II 11 жыл бұрын

Oh man! That what what I always looking for. BIG THANKS!

@bondarev42 17 жыл бұрын

In the 1st match (Kawawada v Koike), the referee is Y. Yaguchi. In the 2nd match (Kawawada v Kagawa) the ref. is K. Enoeda; in the 3rd match (Kawawada v Yokomichi) the ref. is T. Okazaki.

@EKAPOL 17 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting. Kawawada sensei rocks.

@biomappa Жыл бұрын

As Kansa (Judge in the match) several shotokan stars as Y. Yaguchi, Enoeda and the number one Mr. T. Okazaki. They are legendary !!!

@ROCKY44 17 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you.

@FernandoVadell 13 жыл бұрын

@theuppro thank you man apreciate it

@jodharry 4 жыл бұрын

1:47 Wow... had it not been for the replay, I would've never know he'd hit him, let alone with a back-hammer punch. SO FAST!

@danielromero8999 3 жыл бұрын

Much slower than today's sports kumite... but much stronger too. You can see much more solid hits here than in modern sports competitions.

@Canis138 11 жыл бұрын

Because in Kumite you are battling for a point, not a knockout. Kumite is a war with many battles, not a brawl in a dark ally.

@bondarev42 17 жыл бұрын

Yes, in the Shoto Cup, which is where this clip is from. The All Japan Championships for that year had a different outcome.

@GosokuRyuYodan 12 жыл бұрын

And this is not about fighting, it's about timing. It's about finding an opening or creating one. If it were about fighting, you'd have techiques to the throat, eyes, knees and so forth. "Kumite" does not mean fighting. It means "meeting of the hands."

@jayrocket23 17 жыл бұрын

Look at the Mae Geri at 8:01. Wonderfull!!

@cristofercabrera9945 4 жыл бұрын

@kenseisato1989 12 жыл бұрын

ahhh finally i find a awsome video of shotokan sparring

@user-le8gu2dy4q 5 жыл бұрын

ВЕЛИКИЕ МАСТЕРА И ВЕЛИКОЛЕПНАЯ ТЕХНИКА СЁТОКАН .ПЛЕЯДА МАСТЕРОВ ОТ ФУНАКОСИ,НАКАЯМЫ.КОСЭ ,КОГАВА.КАНАДЗАВА.ОСАЕ.ЭНОЭДА.ТОНАКА.ПРЕКРАСНЫЙ ВЕЛИКОЛЕПНЫЙ.КИХОН.

@LoganBruneau 15 жыл бұрын

Actually, I believe the quickest and most efficient way to foot sweep is as they step/lunge/leap foreward. One can simply slide your leading foot across the ground and into the inside of thier leading foot just before they land and get thier balance. If they are about to put weight landing on that foot, they will likely lose balance and fall foreward, providing a window of opportunity to attack them.

@alexichristodoulou9786 3 жыл бұрын

Nice post more old school pls

@hummurabi2010 11 жыл бұрын

Great aspect to work on. I think ill do that in my next sparring session.

@jgeorkas 11 жыл бұрын

In every Martial Art video the same conversation. Either it's Shotokan, Kyokushin, Tae Kwon Do, Kung-fu, BJJ etc someone says "this is Bullshit!", "that doesn't work", "This is no good" etc... At the Bottom of line, the Martial Art is as good as the fighter that applies it.... There is no bad M.Art, just bad fighters... Just enjoy the videos and try to keep an open mind!

@edwardsarhuda2595 3 жыл бұрын

Yep totally agree with you.all these martial styles arguements are realy irritating.like is it that hard to accept that not everyone aims to be a mma champion.

@FernandoVadell 13 жыл бұрын

@cwm1 were do you get those numbers? do u perhaps have a huge list with the description of every fight that hapens? it is simply not posible to know since there are so much brawls acurring every second and mostly by drunks or junkies that have no notion of technic nor interest in it further more the amount of martial artists compared to the general population is minimum and they tend to avoid fights if you respond to this mesege plesse say something logical i have no intention to argue if not

@aiyer1989 15 жыл бұрын

Or one could also argue that it's a lack of zanshin since he turns almost inmediatly after the punch.

@view1110 3 жыл бұрын

Отличное видео.

@counterstep 14 жыл бұрын

beautiful

@cristofercabrera9945 4 жыл бұрын

@salamangkali-allmartialart4836 3 жыл бұрын

That lady commentator has the sweetest, most soothing voice. Who is she?

@openmindedproduction 11 жыл бұрын

I wrestled in Jr. High, and we had a wrestling unit in grades 7, 8 and in high school for phys.ed class, everyone did it, boys and girls, and that's in southern Ontario, Canada where wrestling isn't very popular. And real fights regularly do end up on the ground, even JKA competitions like this video allow trips, sweeps, and takedowns, but in a real fight a person would get on top and ground and pound, and to effectively defend yourself, knowing some basic BJJ/ground fighting is a must

@karatefella 16 жыл бұрын

Yes, the referee in the earlier matches was Enoeda Sensei

@aiyer1989 15 жыл бұрын

And I've scored several points with sweeps. Problem is, most people telegraph their sweep and completely forget about their guard. At the distance their feet are from eachother you don't have to withdraw your leg. Simply hook your opponent's. You don't have to get him to the ground, breaking his concentration is normally enough to score.

@FinArkal 14 жыл бұрын

They got awesome speed and explosive!!!

@valentinosolinas 16 жыл бұрын

good video!!

@maksim55669 16 жыл бұрын

the thing about karate is that you can't use competitive technique to guage actual application. I have been doing shotokan karate for 12 years and by reflex, if i am fighting for my life, i won't be striking at the midsection/head to knock out the opponent. I will aim for the softer tissue in the throat, groin, inner thigh. I will aim to break or severely damage the knee/shin area, or if a weapon is used against me, i will look to block and break/disarm. I won't be looking to knock out.

@fredkarat 14 жыл бұрын

best of the best. jka. trad. great master kawawada oss. bow.

@samsgz 13 жыл бұрын

Legendary warriors, Impressive speed..!

@hajwan100 15 жыл бұрын

this guys is power full like hell one good hit then the other is knock out.

@aiyer1989 17 жыл бұрын

Very nice fights. So different from now and yet some habits still remain. Sexy commentating as well.

@randysensei 16 жыл бұрын

The Best!!

@alimanslayer 11 жыл бұрын

karate is not a fight, it is a game, an art, if you want to see two muscled meatheads fighting like animals go watch ufc

@skooterkid 15 жыл бұрын

I agree that looping punches can be easy to block. However, you must admit there is nothing easier to dodge than a straight punch. You just move your face. You know where your face is, therefore, you know where a straight punch is going...every single time. It's wise to add various punch angles to your arsenal. If you always punch straight you're being extremely predictable. Your only hope is pure speed at that point. Open-minded enemies are some of the most dangerous.

@skooterkid 15 жыл бұрын

Yeah, very nice comparison.

@diosdadoapias 10 жыл бұрын

they do not need to learn BJJ because the japanese have their jujitsu where ur BJJ came from, Judo and aikido. Ground fight is ur theory of the reality of fight in the street but not all. Many street fights do not end in ground fight or grappling.What I experience once and I saw as tendency of many street fights is the antagonist will flail and flail their fist. Only some people who have a tendency to grab when they fight would end on a ground fight.

@Jeice3065 16 жыл бұрын

True but there is one thing i like about kyokushin that we don't have it's the breaking boards and stone part, thats why i want to switch, but i'm sure sensei would show me if i asked.

@EvinYakubuDude 16 жыл бұрын

very true

@ksachef 15 жыл бұрын

The judges in the fight are now some of the highest ranking sensei's in Karate today. I believe that is Sensei Okazaki - 10th Dan at the end. He and Kanazawa or the only living 10th Dans.

@JeReL19 15 жыл бұрын

I don't speak Japanese but I like the female commentator's voice.

@MarcoOviedo 14 жыл бұрын

all karate stylists practice makiwara, and sandbag for the kicks. There would be many injuries, that´s certain. Karate was intended to produce the maximum damage with a single attack, that´s why the combat looks strange for most people, who pretends watch many attacks with low damage.

@hmeida25 15 жыл бұрын

can anyone explain why the final isnt a two wazari system? where does the rules back then??

@janlizbovski7915 5 жыл бұрын

Немжко ошибки в интертете,но это наше каратэ (СОВЕТСКОЕ)черт побери как мы в 1979

@openmindedproduction 11 жыл бұрын

being a good fighter means knowing how to intelligently defend yourself in the worse possible positions, like when someone a lot bigger and stronger than you takes you down and is pounding you in the face with strikes...ground fighting/BJJ teaches you how to defend yourself in that type of situation, which is more common than you think...especially now that more people are learning to wrestle, do BJJ and fight in MMA...to deny yourself knowledge of ground fighting is to be closed minded

@hafka77 16 жыл бұрын

You're right, this is shotokan.

@ROCKY44 17 жыл бұрын

Kawawada won the Kumite and Kata in that year.

@leirtac12 14 жыл бұрын

kawawada has great form and he uses mostly gonosen then senosen

@hooperwille 15 жыл бұрын

I don't get it who won in the first fight? The guy with red belt or the other?

@maofas 15 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. I think Shotokan has a lot of things going for it, but it's stagnated and becoming forgotten as a contact fighting style in favor of other forms of karate and kickboxing. Personally, I think Koshiki rules (keep the space helmet, ditch the chest guard) would be ideal for Shotokan. You get to fight continuously, but if anyone rocks their opponent with one technique/combo enough to declare it an ippon they auto-win.

@kdonv 13 жыл бұрын

@GadGades Shotokan is my primary style but I cross train for ground and grappling. But even after years of cross training I caution you to dismiss striking styles. If you do, the fight may very well wind up with you on the ground... just not in the way you're thinking.

@Sujiceel 4 жыл бұрын

Now they have protective gear for punch/kick taps just to win points.

@GadGades 11 жыл бұрын

IF we're talking about two men fighting, the size difference might be there but not always. People are looking for weakness, they'd sooner notice lots of other things. Even when there is a size difference, it's not necessarily the reason why they might think someone is weak. What I'm saying is that two people with a minor difference won't amount to much, and people picking fights will just as likely consider someone similar in size or slightly smaller as weak(maybe not taller though).

@openmindedproduction 11 жыл бұрын

and I believe especially if someone has no combat training and they get into a fight or attacks someone on the street, it inevitably goes to the ground because of their lack of training too because they will grab, trip, fall, and just continue grabbing, punching, etc. there especially if it's a man attacking a women trying to rape her, where BJJ is one of the best arts to learn to defend against such attacks

@polluxje 14 жыл бұрын

@SnollaSnax No, the red belt is just for the recognition in the game. Sometimes one wears a blue belt, and the other wears a red belt.

@CandyHam 15 жыл бұрын

damn they're fast

@samfecho14 14 жыл бұрын

is it enoeda who is referee ?????

@ndileonardo 13 жыл бұрын

Is that Master Enoeda center ring judge?! Also Master Okazaki

@ndileonardo 13 жыл бұрын

Is that Master Enoeda center ring judge?!

@kbphyde 15 жыл бұрын

It`s interesting to see how Kumite has changed over the years. These guys are technically good, but they don`t move at all, just hop up and down on the spot like two rabbits! No springing backwards and forwards and shouting a lot like nowadays! And no protection either. Interesting though.

@makedonija77 11 жыл бұрын

Other than that I rarely get into fights but when I do I fight to kill, literally, with every gram of ferociousness in my body. In a real fight you might end up wrestling on the ground, but you get into the fight with that thought in mind and I wouldn't mind using whatever I have in my reach, knives, guns, bombs, fucking chairs, tables, rocks, sticks, whatever. There's no mercy when somebody is trying to harm you physically, it's a battle of survival.

@mico2020 16 жыл бұрын

they are supposed to control their punches. I have been to some of these competitions and when the opponent lets one off it really hurts

@GadGades 15 жыл бұрын

Karate arts in general are known for having good low, effective kicks. Anyway, real fights rarely end up in the ground. Somewhere between less than 40% of them do. And if they do, the person rarely knows either wrestling, judo, or any kind of ground art anyway. They'll just try to punch you and get up. seriously, if a fight ends up in the ground its because the people involved tripped. And once you hit someone to the ground and your standing, the fight usually ends.

@Locust59 17 жыл бұрын

im surprised someone didnt post something sayin that mma will kick all of there asses or something.

@mcnotts 17 жыл бұрын

Is that Sensei Enoeda refereing?

@alfroitforza9488 2 жыл бұрын

Kawawada, kagawa the best.

@slimthugga34 14 жыл бұрын

i would love to see these guys in full contact mma against each other... im truly sorry if that offends anyone, but i would really appreciate the opportunity to see these two magnificent martial artists' compete against each other in that manner

@diosdadoapias 5 жыл бұрын

no offense but they are more than in a MMA fight because they wear no gloves.Just think if those trained bare knuckles(fore and middle) will hit your face. IT is up to the players now to control their strike because JKA has a rule against excessive application of strength so a true karateka should control his strike in order not to impart serious injury. This is pure karate and why do you say that they will fight in a MMA. Machida, a son of a JKA Shotokan instructor and also a Shotokan blackbelt is already fighting in UFC MMA and other s of karate background.

@DonalPhelan 15 жыл бұрын

I think I saw Hiroshi Shirai there too as a corner judge?

@GadGades 11 жыл бұрын

As a kid I saw a usually amicable enough guy pick on the tallest(and fattest) kid in class to the point of tears. He had about half a head of height on him if not more.

@GadGades 11 жыл бұрын

I disagree that the average fight will have a size difference either. I'm not saying people shouldn't learn it. I almost forgot how this started so I'm sure we've lost sight of the point. My point isn't not to train in anything. People should train in at least a style for each basic stage(3-4 styles) and maybe one sport style(or a combination) or at least Judo or Sambo. If they really want to be rounded. My point was that people aren't going to be garbage for not doing BJJ.

@BigDave297 16 жыл бұрын

Aye, that's Sensei Enoeda

@JKT6 13 жыл бұрын

point sparring?

@cristofercabrera9945 4 жыл бұрын

Hola

@makedonija77 11 жыл бұрын

Anyone notice that around 0:30 what the guys in the background are yelling sounds alot like "Drop the gun!"

@GadGades 13 жыл бұрын

@riodejaneir10 A ground art is great as a second or primary art, but after that you can go on and learn whatever else. People shouldn't be so guilted or scared into sticking with safe routes, when they might have other interests, ways of thinking, and life experience that differs.

@DadaIbiza 10 жыл бұрын

M. Shirai as corner referee?

@andreagiudici926 5 жыл бұрын

penso sia lui

@smcgregor72 15 жыл бұрын

is that sensei enoeda refereeing

@GadGades 13 жыл бұрын

@riodejaneir10 That's if you go looking for a fight. If you're talking a bar incident or someone trying to mess with you, the chances of them knowing any martial art is low, the chances of them knowing judo or bjj is low despite their popularity. thieves ect can rarely afford to learn these things unless they did so at a younger age when they were better off financially. Realistically people don't get into many fights throughout their lives.

@deadguy29 14 жыл бұрын

Nice vid, although I don't understand why Kawawada gets the point at 6:11 when he is completely out of balance.

@sligo405 5 жыл бұрын

Kawawada = smoove

@FoieGras 10 жыл бұрын

He loves those tobe urakens

@yaguang 13 жыл бұрын

Now... THIS IS KARATE!

@aefiallos 13 жыл бұрын

The second judge is the late Enoeda Sensei

@Flyingtart 16 жыл бұрын

Is it full contact? What style? But its true that a good mma guy would beat them.

@Circonius 16 жыл бұрын

Funakoshi must be wrathing in his tomb...

@joseroberto6171 Жыл бұрын

Oss

@shammerton73 17 жыл бұрын

is that enoeda refereeing ?

@cristofercabrera9945 4 жыл бұрын

@rcadag 15 жыл бұрын

ahh.... I am JKa but it wouldn't be polite to say JKA is the best style, nor would it be true.

@PowerhouseTheDojo 15 жыл бұрын

this is not "kumite" this is "point" kumite, and since a single clean shot can result in loss (or win) both sides approach the bout "very" carefully. This type kumite is all about 1. "timing" 2."speed" 3. ability control and "precision" (very difficult). For those who "don't understand" the mentality behind Traditional Karate this may be boring - the average Joe finds more excitement in a brawl, which is NOT what karate teaches and encourages anyone to practice. If these guys unleash all...

@GadGades 15 жыл бұрын

Also I don't know what you mean by round house punches but if you mean a cowboy punch... well that's the worst possible punch a human being could throw. a wild punch that tries to arc instead of going forward is a waste of time and easy to block. If you meant a backhand then any general blocking or evasive technique could be a applied to it.

@Jgonzales611 15 жыл бұрын

So....what works in a street fight? Tell us from your experience what works?

@juanantonio192 4 жыл бұрын

This is for points, they don't do the same techniques because they have to use protectors to full contact tournaments, karate is very useful

@yungram 26 күн бұрын

чел зачем-то выкладывал бои японских каратистов в 2006 году, а я зачем-то смотрю это 6 мая 2024 года в 00:40

@AZNKC 16 жыл бұрын

wow i cant believe this guy....in fact im kind of speachless....i think u need to seroiusly figure out if what ur training in even is shotokan...cause if i remember correctly in almost every dojos has a picture of funakoshi or his dojo kun.....