"They will immediately criticize it for not working with minimalism, which is of course is the one aesthetic they're able to understand." SHOTS FIRED. LOVE IT.
@notpublic71493 жыл бұрын
How you work and not have some clutter in your work space? I mean.. I can have all the in boxes and out boxes I want off my desk and all that but... There's always something on my desk screwing up the symmetry. Really, if I try to go minimal (I like the look) then I go mad trying to keep everything off my desk and off in a bin somewhere. Mad! Mad, I say!
@IOSam3 жыл бұрын
I suspect most "minimalistic" setups are minimalist only during the photo shoot... (If one does real work at a desk, it is simply not practical to strive for said minimalism)
@jlu3 жыл бұрын
Of course, browsing r/MK with their professional DSLR photos and meticulously aligned set pieces isn't particularly representative of how people actually use keyboards, but I digress
@chunkymilk12883 жыл бұрын
A programmer’s desk is the polar opposite of minimalistic
@GoldenBeholden3 жыл бұрын
I like how you always sound like you hate every board; it's a nice change of pace, since it seems most people who've invested this much into the hobby look to justify their purchases.
@MrDNE10003 жыл бұрын
A lot of people that review groupbuy boards are friends with the designers of the boards/they're an affiliate/they're getting review samples/they're getting into "friends and family" slots for groupbuys. It's probably one of the reasons kbdfans boards get talked shit on the most even though a lot of GB boards have issues on par with kbdfans.
@MrDNE10003 жыл бұрын
Oh, I also like how he states $260 is NOT cheap for a keyboard. I think people have really warped views on keyboard pricing.
@Yurio3 жыл бұрын
@@MrDNE1000 relatively, when talking about other higher end boards, this is definitely on the cheaper end but I’m sure to the majority of people (myself included) it is quite a bit of money
@JYMV3 жыл бұрын
I guess I end up focusing on the negatives but I promise I don't hate everything!
@danielp1213 жыл бұрын
@@MrDNE1000 same tho. for me budget boards are $20-200 max, next tier is $200-300/350 boards, more than that is the icantaffordthatshit tier 😂😂
@MechMerlin3 жыл бұрын
The switch opener not being a cat is the main reason why I did not buy this board.
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah wtf
@poppygin48073 жыл бұрын
so would merlin rate this as a "strong no"?
@johnyjoe2k3 жыл бұрын
Hey!
@andrewy28303 жыл бұрын
2:25 that graphic was clean
@kukri_3 жыл бұрын
Been looking for a real Bella review. Thank you for doing this! Have also been enjoying your other videos. Keep it up!
@MacchiDola3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I went for the Maja instead of the Bella.
@reviewforthetube64853 жыл бұрын
I completely agree what you said about tactile and linear finally someone on the same page as me about hard and soft plates lol but awesome video as always brotha thanks for the extensive review that board is sooooo hollow wow didn't expect it to be that bad thanks for pointing it out and telling us
@muCephei_3 жыл бұрын
Ouuuuuch, brutally and objectively honest. I like it. Subscribed. I need honest reviews like this.
@JohnSmith-hd8bu3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was committed to finding this board on the aftermarket. U saved me :)
@Fate0253 жыл бұрын
I like how in depth the review is :) Most of the stuff I never even noticed, but its always nice to be more educated on the topic.
@zypper72133 жыл бұрын
The switch opener is both useful and barely visible, if it's the *only* thing on this board that's a complete deal-breaker and keeps you from going through with trying the board at all I think that's a you problem, not one of the faults of the keyboard itself
@michaelargueta74963 жыл бұрын
I was so excited about this board when I first saw the interest check and I was going to purchase this as my first custom board. I am now glad that I forgot about this board, the deeper I got into the hobby. I ended up joining the 7V group buy and I much happier with that decision, now that I see how this board turned out.
@Nivengoh3 жыл бұрын
Great that u jump over to 7V, im waiting for it as well. But this video doesn't do justisc to the revision made to Bella. The one i received this week has improvements done to it which made the overally sound better plus the brass isn't the brush finish.
@mattr40783 жыл бұрын
Just got my E-white GB bella today and the weight, and back protrusion are fixed. It also sounds incredibly good with lubed and filmed lilac switches (JWK linears)
@Nivengoh3 жыл бұрын
Same here, on my the sound is great!
@channelcapablanca8663 жыл бұрын
After hearing your comments I'm not sure if I'll regret getting this as my first gb but I guess my id80 will be a good benchmark when it does come in. I do still appreciate the form factor and colour options though, but the bottom protrusion might annoy me a bit from in an ocd way
@justinnorkum-mathieu62083 жыл бұрын
Same. It is my first GB and now I am worried I made a mistake. I like that it had a forest green option as that is my fav colour and I actually do like the cat. But I have never had a brass plate before. Won't be able to afford another GB for a while so I guess I'll see.
@cabinfeverff3 жыл бұрын
i was scoping out this board because im looking ionto building a mid (ish) range board and im really glad i found your vid, the criticisms you laid out are pretty concerning to me and definitely shifted my perspective as someone who had only seen pictures of the board up until this point, that being said, i still really like the exploded layout and im dissappointed since it's been difficult to find a good board with it, i am pretty new to the hobby though so theres that.
@notporo3 жыл бұрын
Should do an end of the year vid on what boards you actually like and sets or something. Don't want to look for the videos would like a single video that have a list. I am very interested on your taste :)
@JYMV3 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@iLoxy423 жыл бұрын
I actually bought the cat switch opener before the board, I like the look and I love the idea of not losing my switch opener for the billionth time
@m00ds4443 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews! Not elitist, but not a fanboy of everything. I look forward to the GMMK Pro review :)
@prestonvarner6112 жыл бұрын
I just bought this. got it for 300USD already built with GMK godspeed caps. Seems like a good deal for me
@Crokto3 жыл бұрын
really glad they adjusted the design. i thought it was insane when they released the IC for a board that ripped off someone that they had an extended relationship with
@meroastisruined30393 жыл бұрын
im in the group buy for this board and after this review my opinions arent changed much about the board itself but rather my opinions of kbdfans are changed. i personally really like the look of the layout and the switch opener is quite odd in my opinion but still not a huge bother to me. i am quite disappointed to see how the board has been altered from the renders however and the build quality has been skimped on. a lot of the quality concerns dont affect my opinion on the board too much as most of it is minor that i would not notice on a day to day basis, rather it affects my opinion on kbdfans as a whole. i dont think ill be buying another kbdfans keyboard unless they really step their game up in every sense. i am still looking forward to receiving the board as it checks all the boxes for me and i am in the group that loves hard bottom outs and doesnt really care about the sound as i am always wearing headphones, but still disappointed with kbdfans for their execution of this board.
@ethanoux103 жыл бұрын
I joined this GB... I mostly got it for the look tho. The purple one looked dope
@ultimatebikekid3 жыл бұрын
Restock has case foam between the PCB and mount plate, as well as the PCB and back of the case, this has likely made a huge difference.
@alinntimpu29433 жыл бұрын
That's some good ol honesty. I will also make sure not to finish my discord messages with a full stop from now on
@MrMirofl3 жыл бұрын
hey nice review! I'm looking forward to the Gmmk Pro
@JustFluxz3 жыл бұрын
I just built mine, first keyboard build... Would you happen to know how to change what the extra keys do and how to add a second layer? I also seemed to have forgotten to put the spacers between the pcb and plate, do you think it matters to have those screwed in? Also, my enter seems quite loud compared to my KBD75. Is it loud for you too? My enter seems quite rattly too... Actually it seems like all my keys are louder, is that what you were referring to in regards to the hollowness? And nice video btw, but you made my feel bad about my keyboard purchase lol. I have been using the original KBD75 for years and was noticing a few of the switches was having issues so decided to get a new board. I am very sad now...
@mugensharp3 жыл бұрын
i bought a purple bella and i still dont even have a tracking number for it. i hop it comes soon
@masterninjahh3 жыл бұрын
they ship around jan 15th.
@queerprose3 жыл бұрын
Great vid! I agree with tactile being harsher on harder plates. For example, Moyu is unbearable on brass but is awesome on plateless builds (think of through hole kits).
@OGTribeq3 жыл бұрын
They also offered a “non-cat” switch opener you could buy separately but it kept the car ears. All the comments were people asking them to make this without the cat or ears, and they didn’t listen. They knew what a lot of people wanted and either ignored them or just refused to make the changes. Such a shame.
@MrJibJub133 жыл бұрын
it has iso hot swap with all south facing. that’s one thing about this board that is really cool. for those eu iso boys. so i would say the pcb is the most interesting part
@Nivengoh3 жыл бұрын
Overally great breakdown with detail explanation, but personally I have some disagreemeents. Minus the mentioned flaws in some of the design aspect the overally quality of the board itself is great imo. The E-White was perfect with no flaws, the brass weight has no warp on my unit and isn't the brush finish shown on urs. Also the sound on my board was a lot more damp and less hollow compare to yours (not sure whats up with that). I build it with c3 Tangerine(the OG ver) and c3 stabs lube with 205 and paring it with GMK Taro. In comparison with my Gat Ink Rama-U80 I would say it comes pretty close (well for sure RAMA still gonna sound better and low tone). But with the price that ships with Bella its still a great buy imo especially if u do like the cat design, but i do agreed that the brass weight could have gone with a better and different design since its already been used in a few of KBDfans past keeb. Overally I would still recommend to those who are in 75% to get the Bella, the foam does really help with the overall sound. Especially since there's 2.
@cooperbegnoche51173 жыл бұрын
Bruh I think you did something wrong. I have a Bella and it sounds so much nicer than that :\
@Tom-hx5kh3 жыл бұрын
not using stock gateron yellows huh
@cooperbegnoche51173 жыл бұрын
@@Tom-hx5kh well no but
@erikvasauez93613 жыл бұрын
I bottom out black inks, it’s just how I type so i always find it interesting hearing people who don’t like or just don’t bottom their switches because i just literally cant haha i bottom them out regardless. But I kind of agree with your take on the plate type, i tend to put polycarb or Fr-4 plates on tactiles and brass or alum on linears but i mix em up all the time too. So far poly is my favorite as I like the sound it produces but for hotswap it can be awful as the keys can easily pop off the plate
@hynubb3r3 жыл бұрын
Hello jymv, do you know what is the size of the spacebar?
@alexanderbartolo4443 жыл бұрын
great review!
@samdeur3 жыл бұрын
I was willing to overlook a lot from kbdfans but ever since they stopped giving us the option to ship from a eu warehouse making all their boards 32% more expensive I stopped shopping there. I see no reason to add an additional $70 on or more on standard order every time so for me it’s a no go.. I did want to buy their TKL board bad the added customs was so high it stopped me..
@chunkymilk12883 жыл бұрын
If you’re a programmer working at home, I highly doubt your desk while working is “minimalistic”.
@wagonet3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for.the review. Good info.
@altrock173 жыл бұрын
I notice you using a brass plate in a lot of your videos, is that your preferred plate material?
@JYMV3 жыл бұрын
It's actually one of my least favorites! For the recent kbdfans videos it's because brass was the only ones offered
@altrock173 жыл бұрын
@@JYMVAh, that makes sense. I got in on the D65 group buy when I was just starting out in the hobby and I thought that a brass plate was the "better, more premium" option so I went with that. I've since used one when I built a KBD8X MKII for a friend and I'm regretting my decision big time...
@blvrger3 жыл бұрын
Do you still have this keyboard? I want that purple cat switch opener so bad and I want to buy from you if you don't mind.
@JYMV3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I do still have it but that purple opener is just a photoshopped picture of the black one
@blvrger3 жыл бұрын
@@JYMV Alright, Thank you for answer.
@ShawnKal73 жыл бұрын
Anyone know any other 75% keyboards? I’m having a hard time finding solderable 75% keyboards
@shipwreck2463 жыл бұрын
Was just trying to find a review on this board yesterday. Thanks for the upload!
@Ponker3 жыл бұрын
Ponker simp JYMV. Quality amazing.
@jlaviews3 жыл бұрын
anyone figured out how to control the lights on this keyboard, just received the hotswap and no manual or anything on this kb.
@masterninjahh3 жыл бұрын
you have to customize it with qmk. youtube a tutorial
@Slipsch3 жыл бұрын
Everything will be much better if not for the cat thingy.
@andrewy28303 жыл бұрын
Personally I think the lower right corner looks fine, just the massive gap between F1 and escape is like having three teeth missinga
@oassapp3 жыл бұрын
Would love a review of one of the Mekanisk boards
@antoniocacioppo95363 жыл бұрын
coolest shit of all time
@desturber77483 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend getting this or the gmmk pro?
@JYMV3 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend the gmmk pro in a heartbeat. Its superior to the bella in every aspect
@Weezox3 жыл бұрын
Jymv still smells!!!!
@CharlesHydronium3 жыл бұрын
>Massdrop dropped the mass. I thought you said "Massdrop dropped the mess" xd
@steveeb003 жыл бұрын
Not a Cat... it's a Dog (Corgi to be exact) Ask KBDFans and they'll tell you.
@Crokto3 жыл бұрын
can i send you a proto for esd testing :D idk how you do it theres just no static around me
@mattr40783 жыл бұрын
This video of the GB bellas just went up, its an e-white board kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r7yelLeUttnMgJ8.html I noticed the weight seems to have a different finish and also fits alot better. Maybe the GB took so long because they were doing some small revisions?
@Nivengoh3 жыл бұрын
Yes that's the same case on mine which i received this week. It sounds a lot better than the one shown on this video. Build it with C3 Tangerine and it sounds great. Relatively close to my Rama U80.
@BerninUben3 жыл бұрын
I don't unsertand why KBDFANS does that whole "ships 20-30 days after you pay for it" thing. like WHY? I thought others that got the Maja were the ones w that experience. I was lucky enough to "snag" a Project Vulcan x KBDFANS Maja Ergo on Black Friday and after waiting 10 days for the shipping notification, for whatever reason, i contacted customer support & they said my ship date was between December 5th & the 20th :( Why tease me like that.
@n3lls813 жыл бұрын
Oh wow that sounds harsh.
@lris63183 жыл бұрын
Just like me and you bro
@RonanBorja3 жыл бұрын
Tough I preordered a Bella
@eye-zitt3 жыл бұрын
The switch opener defo looks like a shiba inu
@rousseau3273 жыл бұрын
It does look like a dog now that you mention it. Also, all these immature haters criticizing a damn cat/dog shows the hobby is actually growing lol.
@spray61933 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ the pinging sound in this board 😶
@michaelknight23423 жыл бұрын
That face will haunt me tonight.
@coluzea3 жыл бұрын
ouch that ping is pretty awful, not a good sounding board at all imo
@D6isD63 жыл бұрын
I was thinking it looked more like a dog before you even said anything.
@saltrocklamp1993 жыл бұрын
This is what they get for trying to make an end run around ai03. KBDfans really fucked up by not respecting their relationship with one of the world's top keyboard designers.
@PapaShuffler3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna buy it just for the cat, but them KBDFans told me it's a DOG...🤢🤮 No thanks!
@jacknugent43243 жыл бұрын
mx browns are bad ur in denial from an old glarses video
@LucasMiroslawProductions3 жыл бұрын
so happy I didn't get it
@utterkid23 жыл бұрын
that sound is so harsh yikes
@greyareaRK13 жыл бұрын
Dogs are square. That's just science.
@SCrdo3 жыл бұрын
My bella sounds 10x better than that, I use ink blacks
@masterninjahh3 жыл бұрын
he didnt even lube the switches. mine doesnt sound hollow at all with everglide dark jade blacks
@PHYLOgg3 жыл бұрын
I find your sound test very strange. It doesn't even sound like the Bella... You show a lot of video snippets throughout the rest of the video, but when it comes to the sound test there's no video proof (why?). All other sound tests I see on KZfaq do not sound hallow AT ALL and sound like a premium board. Your sound test honestly sounds like a completely different keyboard. That part of the review seems sketch to me.. Why don't you have video of you typing on the keyboard there? I don't think I've ever seen a sound test without video of typing on the product in action. I hate to be the guy calling you out on this, but comparing other sound tests to yours (and yours with lack of video evidence) honestly seems like you're trying to bash on the Bella further than needed... Everything else was very well put together, but something is very wrong/off on the sound test part for reasons stated above.
@JYMV3 жыл бұрын
First things first, sound tests are never perfectly representative of real life, so you should not be drawing wide conclusions about the board from them. There are so many factors that go into audio like mic frequency response, polar pattern, distance from source, background noise that sound tests from different videos cannot be compared apples to apples. Main reason I don't include video is because I record in my very small closet for noise purposes. I have no way to prove that this was or wasn't the Bella, but I also have nothing to gain from making this up. You'll have to take my word for it based on the honesty I've hopefully demonstrated through the years.
@PHYLOgg3 жыл бұрын
@@JYMV Just seems weird that every single other sound test I've seen has basically zero hallow/resonance at all.
@offbrandbiscuit2 жыл бұрын
Actually the worst-sounding custom I've ever heard holy shit
@simonli41583 жыл бұрын
it sounds kind of terrible lol
@ChaiTeaCG3 жыл бұрын
forgot to be first
@StrawberrySilk3 жыл бұрын
First
@logohost3 жыл бұрын
no u
@Ethan-qc9po3 жыл бұрын
ha gottem
@stopthephilosophicalzombie90173 жыл бұрын
Has anyone successfully desoldered a USB C socket from their PCB?
@emerrinsytchannel12143 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it ain't too difficult Soldering it back on is ;)
@stopthephilosophicalzombie90173 жыл бұрын
@@emerrinsytchannel1214 Yeah I guess I'm going to have to get a heat gun.
@enxquity35553 жыл бұрын
mx browns are bad, you're in denial
@matthewp10833 жыл бұрын
no
@devinrr3 жыл бұрын
hi tet
@spinkey48423 жыл бұрын
your man card is being revoked for the using of the word "cute"