It's a shame that 2 of those points were scored against keenan as he fell into a strong lapel guard. Hopefully one day jiujitsu points will take lapel gaurds into account.

@@SohailNT They are literally designed to hurt the lapel players. Keenan has not made a lot of friends with his rhetoric on social media.

@@michaelgrimm What do you mean about his rhetoric on social media?

@@bobbymccullough3210 He has been calling his Jiu Jitsu, American Jiu Jitsu. Which has garnered the ire of the BJJ community.

@@michaelgrimm isn't that what BJJ did to Jiu Jitsu though?They're upset that he's renaming something that they also renamed?Doesn't really make sense.

Why didn't he get the points? He got both hooks with a second left

@@jhulax33 i think you need control for at least 3 seconds

@@ThePatcam ah I haven't competed yet unfortunately so I didn't know. Still somewhat new

@@jhulax33 I know that's the rule for IBJJF comps, don't know about this particular promotion. They could use the same rule or a similar one since they didnt award Keenan any points.

@@ThePatcam OK I'm hoping to compete as soon as this lockdown stuff is over

This idiotic trend of putting your hands inside your opponents pants needs to be outlawed, it's disgusting. Knee reaps are ilegal, but oil checking is not, f**k off with that

Juice? U mean acai and praise jesus?

who the f said that? tell them to look up Jeff Glover

If you think these guys aren’t on the juice than I got some snake oil to sell you

@@Mslt2474 wtf. they arent juicing

@@MootRed they absolutely are. Not all juice is designed to make you look like Galvao. Most of these guys use a juice designed to speed up recovery. That's how they train 5+ times a day. Like the Miyao bro that got popped for steroids.

For real!!!!

that's the whole point of creating a guard. you have to test it constantly. also , he is already establish

Roberto is a great but what takes him to the next level is his ability in the scramble and lighting fast reactions. Keenan shut that down. He slowed the match way down and frustrated Roberto. In the end Roberto hung on for dear life in full posture breaking closed guard (a good strategy for winning on points but not the submission dominance he’s grown accustomed to the last year or two), he knew he was stymied and the match was not flowing to his liking. He took the win but he wasn’t proud of it because he knew in many ways it was a loss. Also, Keenan subbed him in a minute or two a few years ago so I think he was looking for a revenge tap. In short he won but none of it went down the way he wanted it to happen.

@@crazyhorse4807 And if we had 30 seconds more to the match that would be a back take and Keenan would win by points or even could score another sub.

He's white. Should be a little pink under duress

awesomeguynamedjon so because of his non verbal cues, you dislike him ? Sounds pretty idiotic.

The FED Smart Money yeah

Roberto knows more about what he was about to do, than you.

@@justsayin3600 Roberto was gassed and barely hung on for the win. If there was a couple more minutes in the match Keenan would have tapped him. He pulled guard (stalled) the last minute hanging on for dear life because he struggled through the whole match never really getting the scramble he was looking for. Other then the opening couple minutes Keenan fraught him perfect. He slowed him down, controlled everything Roberto did for 70% of the match. I like Roberto he’s a great competitor and will be a multi time world champ but he relies on his scrambling ability to out athletic opponents and Keenan shut that all down after the opening

@@crazyhorse4807 Woulda, coulda, shoulda. It's Keenan's fault he got down early, and every time he evened the score, Roberto would immediately get the lead back. It comes down to the fact that Keenan didn't show a sense of urgency, not until it was too late. You can't say Keenan fought him perfect when he allowed himself to be swept twice and taken down, each time putting him behind.

@@BestWayKilla of course I can say he faught him perfect. Roberto is extremely skilled young stronger and faster and has been submitting everyone he faces. Keenan had a great fight strategy and implemented it well. Roberto was very frustrated and if you watch any of his videos you know he usually dominates his opponent to the point of playing with them. In the end you're right, Keenan lost but anybody who knows what they are watching cam tell Keenan was starting to control the fight and Roberto was just trying to hang on. He pulled full gaurd and stalled for his sake!!! Roberto for the points but the take down points were cheap. Would like to see the fight finish with no time limit.

Awkward pozish. Might have been easier than it looked though

Look at it again Keenan let go of his grip before Roberto pulled guard

Massimo I think it’s less knowing politics and more like keeping up with the kardashians

lmaooo too true

"never get triangled again" "berimbolo doesn't work" i love keenan but thats hilarious

@@ezrapaul6808 Jimenez is an absolute legend for doing that LOL I'm praying that Musimeci Bolos Keenen soon even though i do like him.

@@mass13344 same lol

yup any match that ends in points is an unfinished match.

It's always fun to see high level competition, but I agree. Sub only matches are so much more interesting to watch because it's more in the spirit of Jiu Jitsu and doesn't penalize taking risks.

Sub-only matches feature just as match stalling and gaming the rules as points matches, and either end up being time limit draws or just a contest of who doesn't gas out quicker. Points matches are just fine, they place a premium on position, and offer objective criteria to determine who was better during a match, since, as it turns out, high level black belts happen to be very difficult to submit.

Yes, there shouldn't be a defined point system. It should be based on either very experienced judges...who can easily tell if a person is stalling, or getting a take down and just sitting there just because they think they're up on the score cards; or submission only.

@@BestWayKilla So true, "Sub-only" sounds good when you hear it, but sub only matches are a false narrative too. I agree, place a premium on position and offer objective criteria to determine who was better. At a high level, subs don't happen often and hour-long matches don't even represent anything approaching the spirit of marital arts and self-defense as unlimited time is garbage, if anything, short encounters are more realistic.

I think both hooks would be 4, and rimenez pulled guard negating the 2

I think he's lost conditioning with age. Wasn't he taking in like 30 black belts for 40 minutes in one video or something? Maybe he's just not explosive enough for the younger guys. How old is he? I feel like he's not been in the game THAT long. Either way his best days are behind him. No shame, he's got his own gym and youtube and podcast things going on.

@@juntjoonunya9216 totally agree with you

@@juntjoonunya9216 Keenan is 28 man lol how are his best days behind him?

Keenan is a thoughtful smart competitor, he knows Robertos strengths (scramble, back take, lighting fast counters) and he took it all away from him. He slowed the fight way down and Roberto was clearly frustrated with the way the fight was playing out. This dude has been tapping EVERYONE and he finished this fight by pulling closed guard and watching the clock tick down to get him out of the match. He had no answer and seemed slightly confused by Keenans level of lapel game.

Yeah I agree. Keenan won it with skill. That's it

Yep......he looked stronger in the end and Roberto looked like he was glad it was over. After the first few points were scored you could tell that Roberto wasn’t really sure how to deal with keenans lapel work. Roberto relies on the scramble to use his elite athletic ability and Keenan wasn’t gonna let him take the match in that direction.

He's struggling and not evolving. He can only evolve if he rolls with the best. He's getting where no one likes him or wants to see him on top. He's isolating himself now.

He can be explosive. He was just trying to rly do cool shit with his guard. He was letting himself get swept so he could reset his guard to practise and showcase it again.

@@sollybrown8217 same with me, in competition I also purposely lose and let people choke me to practice on my neck strength.

You don't have to be explosive in jiu jitsu. You're supposed to stay connected the whole time.

Roberto is a better more explosive athlete then Keenan. If he played that game he was gonna lose. Keenan slowed the match down and mostly eliminated Robertos two best skills - the scramble and back take. He gassed Roberto out and he had no answers for Keenans lapel game.

He was taking his feet out from being stuck in the gi

@@kylehasgeniusbits but why did do that ? I think next time he will help him for escaping triangle choke

@@TheFivezerofive let me know when they help someone escape a triangle, bud

Not enough time on the clock to secure position.

thank you did not know thought all you need to do is establish the hooks

Pulled guard, was in bottom position then ended on top position. I guess the counted it as a sweep 🤷‍♂️

😂

I didnt like that he tried to stall at the end

Dbo Ard Jr yeah, I agree

@@syzdaman Other than those few seconds. He took it to Keenan

Dbo Ard Jr yes he sure did! Not bad for his black belt debut. Especially at that level. Keenan ain’t no joke!

Sometimes the ref will adjust the gi when for example, the gi is covering one of the opponents eyes or someones pants are sliding off. They are there to also break illegal grips.

He did look tired. That's what they fast young guns can do to wear out the more experienced guys.

The future of BJJ is stalling in closed guard for points? The future of BJJ is going to be cheap and boring.

Adam Thomas what match were you watching? I watched attempted back takes, a takedown,a few scrambles, and just one pull guard 🤷‍♂️

@@nazarethproductions7095 Agree, most of the match was high energy and fun to watch but I just can't get behind the whole stalling in guard for nearly a minute thing. Running down the clock is a cheap strategy and I found it disappointing.

Adam Thomas I agree too stalling is disappointing, but competitors have always stalled in a position when it comes to gi matches so it never surprises me. I find no gi way exciting to watch .

@@adamthomas4042 Roberto finishes alot of his matches! He finished 10 for 10 matches at world's a couple years ago

when was this?

No you weren't!

KC wasn't actually attacking when the guard-pull happened.

Usually refs try to remove a trapped foot with the gi in regular matches. Keenan was placing it there intentionally I think, but the ref kept trying to clear it 'cause he thought it would help :P.

Might be wrong but, I don't think you're allowed to control with your foot inside the gi, only on the lapels.

@@winestore_grindcore3223 U r right! :)

Exactly. He settled for holding closed guard (stalling) to secure the win. Keenan is too smart for him still. Roberto is awesome but Keenan showed if you take away the scramble and back take Roberto seems a little lost.