My first thought: Jungleman woke up 5 minutes before this interview.
@Stefanburakov2 ай бұрын
Man.. he is like me, he never wake up and in the same time he is so more awake then 99.999%
@0ptimal2 ай бұрын
Im a casual onlooker to poker, i used to be obsessed in 07 to 2011. So i just occasionally poke my head in to see whats going on. But the last few years ive noticed poker has gained a lot of popularity. Like im seeing it more and more in settings i wouldnt expect to see it, streams i happen to see get a lot of increasing attention, can just tell a LOT of people want to play it. If only it became widely legal in the states and easy to play online, i think it would be a golden time for online poker. Again.
@suchabadbeat26172 ай бұрын
Keep it going jungle
@TomRauhe2 ай бұрын
What I see a lot in 4bet live poker is that people with AK who miss the flop just shove, because they have no idea what to do.
@kylecannarile71612 ай бұрын
That's why a live $1k buy in is considered the same skill level as a $50 or less online
@genesises2 ай бұрын
@@kylecannarile7161 when i started getting into poker like 2 years ago, i found it absurd to see some plays being made from live recs - studying amateurs in 1/2 online have a better sense for the game than this lol
@vojtechmatulik12922 ай бұрын
Appreciate your work Jungle ❤
@AC-wl7ve2 ай бұрын
this is very interesting. I mostly just play for fun, but ive played over 20 years and i can pretty regulary go deep into mtts and usually avoid making any massive blunders and a lot of his thought processes are very similar to mine, just obviously on an entirely different level. i delved into gto a bit years ago when i was trying to take poker more seriously and i swear i was having the worst result of my life when i was just trying to make "gto approved plays."
@genesises2 ай бұрын
yeah you shouldn't "play gto". that doesn't work unless you are playing against a gto bot. also if you already have confidence in your style of play you are gonna play worse regardless of what you are trying to apply. gto is pure theory, poker played by humans is not. having the theoretical understanding becomes useful if you can actually play a consistent strategy over a LONG time, and judge your opponents appropriately. going relatively deep in lower stakes MTT's is mostly down to folding when you don't have it and never bluff off your stack - most of the field is going to play themselves out due to impatience or just being bad.
@AC-wl7ve2 ай бұрын
@@genesises absolutely, i always try to play balanced as well and i have a pretty good understanding of ranges and which spots are good to bluff or not. from there i just try to take notes of what my opponents are doing and play a bit more exploitive. against certain opponents (especially at lower stakes) the "gto approved plays" are just going to put you in a ton of spots you dont want to be in.
@pugsnhogz2 ай бұрын
@@genesises I agree, but sometimes you just have to bluff off your stack ;)
@jaeshbalachandran57662 ай бұрын
Thanks from Singapore Jungleman. Big fan...
@pvtglarson12 ай бұрын
online poker is simple when you understand the underlying muscles and tendons and layers of the face of poker
@derekw12672 ай бұрын
you're lowkey a psychopath. who talks like that
@tomek32102 ай бұрын
Online poker is event more simple when you hide your results and tell everybody how big winner you are. Bencb story.
@rickyf36282 ай бұрын
@@tomek3210he's posted his results
@Humanprototype-wh8qr2 ай бұрын
i remember when on FT low / mid stackes in a 5k runner field they 4b all in K8o 50 bb 5 y ago
@kevinmclain67412 ай бұрын
I'm not saying he isn't a great player. But counting total winnings is kind of silly. Profit/time is the metric that matters. Heck Negreanu has been getting soaked for years now. But his total winnings have been pretty high.
@jimduggan83822 ай бұрын
its rude to ask for actual profit so giving the total winnings has at least some value
@FriendsForFriends6662 ай бұрын
Daniel is losing money cause he's playing over his league not with Sammy or matussow etc.
@User_aa1232 ай бұрын
Ben has his profits posted on his twitter
@Joshezellentrepreneur2 ай бұрын
WSOP is just one series, and grinding it for POY is tough. Those numbers play out for almost everyone.
@genesises2 ай бұрын
@@jimduggan8382 while some think that, its lying to claim total winnings is reflective of skill or success especially in a game like poker
@lucaapoc69062 ай бұрын
We need to talk about the real roi% that is achievable not how poker is easy and soft and all this nonsense. The realistic and achievable roi% is what really determines if a game is soft or not. For example if you can achieve 30% longterm, that means the game is really easy and most importantly there will be less swings and you will get to realize that winrate faster. On the other hand if 5% is achievable, that is a nightmare game, because even if on paper it is profitable, but the swings long-term can last 5k+ tournaments and that means years of practically gambling. I personally and ethically wouldn't suggest anyone to play poker for a living like this, maybe playing on the side. Please Ben stop telling lies to promote your business.
@tsaariv2 ай бұрын
Great episode wish it was longer :D
@ritswik2 ай бұрын
Often times i play K6s in his honour 😂
@datboi49942 ай бұрын
Thank u jungle n thanks Ben
@TakenGTs2 ай бұрын
I am too excited for this!!
@mrfahrenheit20062 ай бұрын
Nice strat heavy episode
@thewargimp2 ай бұрын
Love ya Jungleman
@FriendsForFriends6662 ай бұрын
Ben, you're wrong about the early stages of tournaments. That's why you end up near bubble with 15bbs. People gamble more in early stages and make silly bets to accumulate chips. So many thin profitable calls you're missing when you're 24tabling. I guess it's a streaming/entertainment thing to make it to at least one final table per stream but I feel it's -ev.
@user-hx8rk8nt2y2 ай бұрын
Who the eff are you lol tryna give Ben advice
@FriendsForFriends6662 ай бұрын
@@user-hx8rk8nt2y anyone who's above taking advice is more than lost forever. Also, when working 8 hours, you work 100% for 8 hours, not scratching your @@s for 6 of them and if you make it deep by coinflips take it seriously. Just a thought from a nobody lol
@cheekibone1172 ай бұрын
@@FriendsForFriends666 You know he made millions playing poker right. But true, I also think streaming and playing that many tables is -ev
@FriendsForFriends6662 ай бұрын
@@cheekibone117 true, he made millions playing the best poker he could. I just don't think 24 tabling can sustain anywhere close the quality that made him profitable against the top players and with so small edges. Missing on early spots is detrimental in this scenario. But I do wonder what will be his performance if he's focusing on one table while the other 8 players play 24 tables. I believe he knows the answer as well.
@freakinElvis2 ай бұрын
In my view I will float-ev calls mid game because in a 5 hour tournament if I get lucky I will become big stack if I lose it’s just another day and I put the whole thing in the rear view mirror. I choose my spot when to float and close my eyes
@ahmedk78992 ай бұрын
2 legends
@db_cio2 ай бұрын
Jungle, somewhere I saw you with almost shaved head, like 7mm of hair and I thought it suited you very well, have you thought about that look?
@daniellc112 ай бұрын
think ill fix my hair actually
@DragonballG.2 ай бұрын
That Patrick Antonius
@luanmarques4942 ай бұрын
Two Goats!
@spamrobban2 ай бұрын
great interview! what did Ben say about the FBI in the beginning? didn't catch that.
@benjaminlopez96622 ай бұрын
Black Friday department of justice seized his funds
@Leinsterken2 ай бұрын
@@benjaminlopez9662why?
@benjaminlopez96622 ай бұрын
@@Leinsterken Google “poker Black Friday” online poker shut down in America for everyone.
@pugsnhogz2 ай бұрын
@@Leinsterken look up "poker black friday"
@gscgoldАй бұрын
@Leinsterken Because of Black Friday They shut down all online poker sites in the United States I lost everything I had on poker stars and Full Tilt as well, didn't have a lot but still, I never saw that money again along with most people.
@kezman82a2 ай бұрын
Nice!
@330miggs2 ай бұрын
15" POKER HAAAAARRRRDDD
@FriendsForFriends6662 ай бұрын
The multitable problem: Ben has an interesting hand on table 4,6,8,13,14,17,20. I'm sitting on table 24 at middle position with 80bbs. Ug raises from 30bbs, ut+1 reraises from 25bbs and I shove 80bbs pre. You're sitting on sb with 44s and 50bbs. What do you do? Well, previous hand you missed cause you're playing the hand on 7 tables was between utg vs me where he shoved a6off and I called with aas and lost to a 6 high straight. Now you might want to rethink how strong are your 44s.
@genesises2 ай бұрын
maybe he's more into maximizing money/time over money/hand ^^
@genesises2 ай бұрын
also while i'm not the best player, folding 44 in that spot doesn't seem to require too much player specific context to make up your mind, 2 players to act behind with 1 allin
@CARPital2 ай бұрын
As long as people post stuff like this i will play poker
@FriendsForFriends6662 ай бұрын
@@CARPital I thought we lost you. Thank god you're still around. 😂😂😂
@FriendsForFriends6662 ай бұрын
@@genesises exactly. In a vacuum. On that table though the context is very obvious if you pay attention and not 24tabling.
@jacksondickery5092 ай бұрын
Here because BenCb is getting heating on twitter. I love how Bonomo is at the forefront of criticism but is also a known cheater? The moral police can’t even control themselves lol
@giannislazaridis84202 ай бұрын
Tooop content
@jdstoltz34072 ай бұрын
Btw, its not recommended to keep your entire roll on a poker site even today 😂
@dagreenblazer59582 ай бұрын
1st & Foremost....Fcuk Jokerstars!! 2nd...... really good video and Ben was a very interesting & educational guy to listen to thanks!
@PopTartLee2 ай бұрын
Is Mr Cates broke?
@ghostbr91362 ай бұрын
MR Cates is never broke
@PopTartLee2 ай бұрын
@ghostbr9136 what about bencb....I watch his streams doesn't seem $35,000,000 is possible.....need to see his tax returns.....lol.hahaha.
@zeptime34732 ай бұрын
👍🏼
@gbpg20162 ай бұрын
IRS here, we’re still waiting for those tax returns.
@adragonro2 ай бұрын
Waitt where is my taxback? I lost last year😅
@yuralight804Ай бұрын
Is it just me or Ben sounded as outdated bad reg 😮
@charliefox95732 ай бұрын
There were studies done that proved online poker is completely rigged. Players investing heavily might be favoured but the average player never wins long term no matter how well they play.
@loganehewett98072 ай бұрын
I've freerolled up to about 2 million since 2008
@Tom_Bee_2 ай бұрын
Lol no
@FriendsForFriends6662 ай бұрын
I would love to see those studies. Any chance you can give us a link or something? Out of the blue however, I'll disagree. Also laugh at the 2million freeroller over here. Who are you, jesus scammer ferguson? It's difficult yes, takes ages of study yes, needs maximum emotional control yes and yes you have to be a genius on top. If any factor is less than it should you're going broke over long run. No way around this. Sure, sites have huge incentives to have bots and rigged rngs. Bots have been proven to be real (after years of screaming about them now they lost their money they care. When it was yours they said you need to buy a course) and there is an open conversation on rngs. Nothing is proven about them as far as I know. The full tilt days are over folks. I wish they weren't. I miss gus.
@LastUltimo2 ай бұрын
@@FriendsForFriends666thanks a lot for the comment man!
@AC-wl7ve2 ай бұрын
i do remember watching a video a long time ago where a guy took data from hundreds of thousands of hands and found that that odds were very skewed when it came to late stages of a tourney or the higher stack player usually being favoured to win a flip. who knows if its really like that, but it would kind of make sense to have something coded in that is just moving games along faster, getting more money moving so ultimately they make more rake.