Kempton Steam Museum - The Mercury Arc Rectifiers

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Kempton Steam Museum

Kempton Steam Museum

3 жыл бұрын

Kempton Steam Museum volunteer David Walker describes the history and operation of the museum's Mercury Arc Rectifiers.
Mercury Arc Rectifiers are designed to convert AC to DC. The units at Kempton Steam Museum were originally installed at the Royal Opera House in Covent Garden to drive stage winches and motors. When they became redundant, they were rescued by museum volunteers and installed at Kempton to replicate units that were once used on the site. They are still regularly used to power the museum's heavy duty electrical equipment and can be seen operating on open days.
See www.kemptonsteam.org for more details.

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@JUANKERR2000
@JUANKERR2000 3 жыл бұрын
Even in my late 70s and after nearly 50 years as a professional engineer I still find these alien-looking devices quite fascinating.
@bent540
@bent540 3 жыл бұрын
give it a few generations and people will think its magic! because the new generations only know things that are trending on their phone
@OliverFlinn
@OliverFlinn 3 жыл бұрын
@@bent540 ok boomer
@OliverFlinn
@OliverFlinn 3 жыл бұрын
@@bent540 old doesnt mean good/better
@bent540
@bent540 3 жыл бұрын
@@OliverFlinn lol wtf do you know about anything! life isnt a phone! i know the only thing inside your head is about getting the new phone! lol youre pathetic!
@Drachistyj_izumrud
@Drachistyj_izumrud 2 жыл бұрын
@@OliverFlinn New doesn't mean better too
@grayeaglej
@grayeaglej 3 жыл бұрын
And this children is why Museums are still an absolute NECESSITY in the digital age.
@1theredrooster
@1theredrooster 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a guy here turn on a new old stock one in his living room.
@grayeaglej
@grayeaglej 3 жыл бұрын
@@1theredrooster Neat :D
@johnbewick6357
@johnbewick6357 3 жыл бұрын
@@1theredrooster Photonicinduction
@cjmillsnun
@cjmillsnun 3 жыл бұрын
@@1theredrooster He struck it and powered it up, yes. Would've been interesting if he had hooked up the output.
@spvillano
@spvillano 3 жыл бұрын
@@cjmillsnun at higher loads, the ozone would become rather irritating.
@remek_ember
@remek_ember 3 жыл бұрын
I love that the cooling fans are actually solid wood propellers
@remek_ember
@remek_ember 3 жыл бұрын
@@MFKR696 Who hurt you?
@kilikus822
@kilikus822 3 жыл бұрын
@@remek_ember His father was killed by a broken wood fan when the greedy plant manager just denied funding for the metal fans only a day earlier. It rained on his walk home after hearing the news only to have his landlord evict him for unpaid bills, to be replaced by the local wooden fan salesman.
@jimvss
@jimvss 3 жыл бұрын
@@MFKR696 They are wood to avoid flashover.
@jmackmcneill
@jmackmcneill 3 жыл бұрын
Also dead wrong about wood being a poor engineering material and being cheaper. Industry switched to metal and plastic for most applications because it is FAR cheaper to mass manufacture than wood, which does not *need* to be hand made, but hand-made is preferable because a craftsman can compensate for wood having non-homogenious grain structure that can lead to a high reject rate in "standardised" mass-production. Metal and plastic are just way easier to work with, and therefore cost less in terms of labour. It is true that wood is more sensitive to environment, but that is very context dependant. Under "perfect" conditions almost every compenent can last forever. (On a final note: "Solid wood" refers in this context to the wood and construction being sturdy, dense, and well made. It's not even an obscure definition. Even if "hollow?" was intended as a joke, it just sounded stupid)
@D4RKBRU73
@D4RKBRU73 3 жыл бұрын
@@kilikus822 Although the guy in question has removed his (presumably toxic) comment, yours still made me giggle a lot : )
@km5405
@km5405 3 жыл бұрын
i think photonicinduction just broke the algorithm with his mercury arc rectifier
@tomroland2315
@tomroland2315 3 жыл бұрын
A work colleague told me he was at a power station which used these devices. I guess possibly to provide excitation for an alternator. One day he had to take a party of school children around the station, all of whom he thought were pretty disinterested. He showed them the steam driven alternator and said this is where we make the electricity and then pointed to the rectifier and said this is where we bottle it. The next day he was taken to task by the station manager...clearly their teacher wasn't happy.
@BitTwisted1
@BitTwisted1 3 жыл бұрын
The days before 9-11 when the public could visit power stations. I was heading to lunch through the turbine hall once, when one of the old hands shouted out, slightly too loudly 'you can see up the skirts of the holiday-camp visitors through the open mesh floors'. Lol Almost walked into some scafolding.
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 3 жыл бұрын
@@BitTwisted1 Is it totally illegal for the public to visit power stations? Also, is it routine for staff to use the turbine hall as a foot traffic throughfare? There was a case where a superheated steam main near a workers' breakroom ruptured and killed everybody inside.
@heyallenify
@heyallenify 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregorymalchuk272 I'm not sure about the restrictions on visiting today, but I know years ago I visited the Hoover Dam and was able to walk through the dam and the turbine hall there. It's not only steam-based plants that have turbine halls, though likely the large majority are some sort of combustion-based generators.
@somethingsomeonesaid6455
@somethingsomeonesaid6455 3 жыл бұрын
@@heyallenify In 2006 vehicles still crossed the river on the top of the dam...there was a bridge being constructed nearby at the time. Now, traffic is on the bridge, don't know about tours...but that was the way you got to vegas from arizona, litterally on and over the dam.
@heyallenify
@heyallenify 3 жыл бұрын
@@somethingsomeonesaid6455 I only went to the dam as a young teen, and that was around 90... It's been a few years for me, so things have definitely changed!
@buttyboy100
@buttyboy100 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a Post Office apprentice back in the early 1970s these rectifiers were still in use in some telephone exchanges for producing 50 Volts DC to power the exchange, charge the batteries etc. On a dark winter day they produced an eerie, flickering glow on the walls and ceiling near the cage that housed them. This video brought back memories.
@srfurley
@srfurley 3 жыл бұрын
The Post Office Railway also used them at one time, but they were later replaced by solid state rectifiers.
@thetruthexperiment
@thetruthexperiment Жыл бұрын
Where?
@HIDHIFDB
@HIDHIFDB Жыл бұрын
the last time i saw one to those things working was in 1990 in Monterrey mexico the rectifier was used in a old Telegraph instalation powering an ancient mechanical type machine that worked like a old fax, that thing looked like a living magic machine compared to the "normal" looking solid state newer machines
@johncarlisle6865
@johncarlisle6865 Жыл бұрын
I served an electrical apprenticeship at British Steel & we had one in our training centre to control all of our DC motors & control panels. I can relate to what you're saying about the flickering glow
@incognitotorpedo42
@incognitotorpedo42 11 ай бұрын
@@johncarlisle6865 There's a lot of ultra violet light in that glow.
@RedHeadForester
@RedHeadForester 3 жыл бұрын
Who else got recommended this after seeing Photonicinduction's mercury arc rectifier video?
@elishahocking2885
@elishahocking2885 3 жыл бұрын
Yessir
@tcuisix
@tcuisix 3 жыл бұрын
me
@D4RKBRU73
@D4RKBRU73 3 жыл бұрын
Other way around for me actually, although coming from Photonic originally (weird, right?)
@ef451ye
@ef451ye 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, me too!!!
@kenycharles8600
@kenycharles8600 2 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@philorkill
@philorkill 3 жыл бұрын
This video humbles me in how much I still don't know. We stand truly on the shoulders of giants.
@johnwinters4201
@johnwinters4201 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a boy there was a man in Bamber Bridge (nr. Preston, Lancs) who manufactured car batteries in a big shed by the railway line. To charge his batteries he had one of these rectifying the mains, and then simply put about 15-20 batteries in series on the output. I remember being fascinated by that shimmering dot of blinding light.
@BOBXFILES2374a
@BOBXFILES2374a 3 жыл бұрын
Whoa.
@davelowets
@davelowets 11 ай бұрын
That man was an idiot.... Charging that many large lead-acid batteries (bombs) in series, off straight mains voltage, is just stupid. 💣 💥 🔥
@bernardchorley8931
@bernardchorley8931 3 жыл бұрын
It's great to see such an impressive bit of kit restored by the museum. A very well produced and informative video. Well done.
@justin.campbell
@justin.campbell 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, very well done!
@noelalexisshaw-nas-noz5142
@noelalexisshaw-nas-noz5142 Жыл бұрын
Restored? 🤔 That Tech My Friend Had Always Been There, The Whole Building Is Connected To It, It Isnt Just For "Display" - He Tells Us This When He Turns Them On And Switches The Load Over 🧐. Mercury Arc Rectifiers Were Around LONG Before 1901 👈🏼 & Were NOT Invented By Whom They Claim 🤣. Much Love, 💚
@garryclelland4481
@garryclelland4481 3 жыл бұрын
As a 16 year old industrial plant fitter ( 43 year ago ) , one of my first tasks was to go into the ''rectifier room '' and sweep the black dust of the floor , i was handed a dustpan and brush to do it , a few hours later finished said task but felt strange , kinda burning skin and tight chest . i now know all about U.V. and ozone , safety was truly a joke back yonder . Thanks for posting .
@calvinnickel9995
@calvinnickel9995 9 ай бұрын
I love how modern solutions are so simple… like solid state vs tubes, fuel injection vs carburation, turbine engines vs reciprocating engines, internal combustion vs external combustion, etc etc.. but engineers had to figure the difficult way that was technologically feasible first before things like materials and processes and tolerances allowed simpler things to be developed.
@BitTwisted1
@BitTwisted1 3 жыл бұрын
These were really common on power stations, generating DC for the instrumentation battery backed up DC supply buses. The were a reliable and efficient way of generating large amounts of DC before silicon rectifiers appeared. I worked at Dungeness Magnox power station in the early 2000s. (On a completely separate project but engineers talk). I believe there were a suite of large mercury arc rectifiers supplying power to the instrumentation buses. Apareltly they occasionally blew out, which made for an interesting time I'm sure, (Let them cool down,replace fuses, then restart them and they were good for another few years). The station was scheduled for shut down in 2006 and Magnox were somewhat reluctant to spend millions replacing them with a new silicone rectifier system with so little time left. Obviously there were multiple redundant parallel systems but there were no spares available. Then some identical spare units turned up from the London underground which had never actually been turned on. I'm not sure if they needed to be fitted before the station was decommissioned, that part would have been turned off sometime after the fuel was removed, so probably 2012 ish. The trials and tribulations of keeping 50 year old equipment running :¬)
@alanpartridge2140
@alanpartridge2140 3 жыл бұрын
Just had a look and the underground uses a strange DC system of +430V on 1 power rail and -210V on the other. So back in the day they'd have had a large number of these Octo(Hexa)puses
@rushymoto
@rushymoto 3 жыл бұрын
Yes quite large ones existed for example on the DC links that often shared power between countries. The large ones however were not glass like in this video. The big ones were constructed in steel and had vacuum pumps on them to keep them pulled down. The escaping mercury vapours caused some contamination and an occupational health hazard. The attractive glassware we are shown here could often be seen in elevator machine rooms at the top of blocks of flats and offices as they all ran brushed DC motors and controls. I saw an antiquated example of this in Kiev recently in some soviet era flats. If you see a lift with a chair in it then beware. If it has a chair with a pot on the floor under it then definately dont use it.
@deborahchesser7375
@deborahchesser7375 3 жыл бұрын
SCR’s and now power transistors
@deborahchesser7375
@deborahchesser7375 3 жыл бұрын
Super cool info Frank, sounds like you lead more than an average life career wise. 👍🇺🇸
@fryloc359
@fryloc359 3 жыл бұрын
The factory I work in had DC control voltage to control the AC equipment, as well as some rather large motors which also ran both AC and DC. We used to have a motor of several hundred hp connected to two generators, one on each side, so one generated +125 VDC and the other -125 VDC, so the total generated was 250 VDC. All that is gone now, replaced by solid state rectifiers.
@garryclayton2001
@garryclayton2001 3 жыл бұрын
Electrickery at it's most mesmeric beauty.
@dgloom
@dgloom 3 жыл бұрын
Far more impressive than today's rectifiers. I guess this is where ideas for the early sci-fi film sets came from.
@TheNefastor
@TheNefastor Жыл бұрын
Seeing all that glowing, I was really hoping for a portal to another dimension to open every time he flipped a breaker.
@chasevans7171
@chasevans7171 3 жыл бұрын
And now I feel cheated my car's alternator only has boring diodes. I'd love one of these under the bonnet. Much more exciting.
@D4RKBRU73
@D4RKBRU73 3 жыл бұрын
And much more beneficial to your health when you crash, right ?
@garrysekelli6776
@garrysekelli6776 3 жыл бұрын
With dimethyl mercury fuel injection pump.
@helpabrothawithasubisaiah5316
@helpabrothawithasubisaiah5316 3 жыл бұрын
Its not a bonnet.. its either hood or trunk
@chasevans7171
@chasevans7171 3 жыл бұрын
@@helpabrothawithasubisaiah5316 or a frunk if you are American and have no engine in the front. It's bonnets, wings and bumpers all the way in the UK.
@helpabrothawithasubisaiah5316
@helpabrothawithasubisaiah5316 3 жыл бұрын
@@chasevans7171 why does the UK always gotta mess things up.. you guys take words and add extra letters, and make them less efficient
@biohazardousBiker
@biohazardousBiker 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen one in person, the video can never do them justice for how amazing they look when they load up. it ran a historical tram bus in New Zealand
@JamieSteam
@JamieSteam 3 жыл бұрын
MOTAT, Auckland. That rectifier is still in daily operation.
@jack80kiwi
@jack80kiwi 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamieSteam used to take my children there in the '70's ,then my grandchildren . used to tell them it was an alien from space lol. Still running today as far as I know, was for the museum trams.
@Agent24Electronics
@Agent24Electronics 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamieSteam Thanks for the reminder - I saw the one(s)? at MOTAT as a kid but didn't understand what they were. I must go and take another look! So much fun compared to silicon... A huge pool of mercury AND the arc changes brightness depending on current draw. What's not to love? :D
@JamieSteam
@JamieSteam 3 жыл бұрын
@@Agent24Electronics yes if they had money it would make an awesome display as a crazy sparking glowing thing, in a clear case in the middle of the room. Unfortunately MOTAT has been hard up for cash the past 40 years or so! I remember visiting in the early 80s, and I swear some of the displays haven't been dusted since then.
@jamierawlings538
@jamierawlings538 3 жыл бұрын
This equipment was mentioned in a novel I’m reading. I’d never heard of it before, so it was quite cool to see a video of the actual equipment in use. Thanks for posting.
@faber_3285
@faber_3285 3 жыл бұрын
care to share the novels title.. XD
@curiouser-curiouser
@curiouser-curiouser 3 жыл бұрын
@@faber_3285 I came here from a novel called “Strange Practice” by Vivian Shaw. I’m assuming it’s the same novel. Idk how many books could possible be talking about mercury arc rectifiers
@Wtfinc
@Wtfinc 3 жыл бұрын
@@curiouser-curiouser whats it about? Never heard of novels that mentions rectifiers. Sounds like my kind of book maybe.
@googleblows4016
@googleblows4016 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wtfinc I don't know which novel they're referring to, but you're going to love William Gibson and Bruce Sterling's "The Difference Engine"!
@Wtfinc
@Wtfinc 3 жыл бұрын
@@googleblows4016 Thanks for the recommend!
@GTA2SWcity
@GTA2SWcity 3 жыл бұрын
I actually just saw Photonicinduction's new vid the other day powering up a mercy arc rectifier. I had never seen one in action before, though I'd seen several on display before throughout my adult life. Truly fascinating to behold. Works of art, now. These are treasure now. For a time nixie tubes were also in this vintage category until that Czech fellow began producing them again. To be honest, I do think we should interest future generations whatever way we can for fields like these.
@Drachistyj_izumrud
@Drachistyj_izumrud 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't check his channel in a while. Too many subscriptions lol.
@GTA2SWcity
@GTA2SWcity 2 жыл бұрын
@@Drachistyj_izumrud same but I stumbled across it because I happened to be looking for something similar in tech
@LionWithTheLamb
@LionWithTheLamb Жыл бұрын
@@Drachistyj_izumrud He hasn't made a new video in quite a long time.
@sachiperez
@sachiperez 3 жыл бұрын
Somehow a “!!! FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER !!!” seems rather puny...
@kleetus92
@kleetus92 3 жыл бұрын
Trust me, you don't want this one blowing up in your face!
@norwegiannationalist7678
@norwegiannationalist7678 3 жыл бұрын
@@kleetus92 mmm the smell of Mercury vapour in the morning
@robkennedy3000
@robkennedy3000 3 жыл бұрын
If you like this sorta stuff. Go check out photonic induction. He literally just uploaded a video about these magic mercury squids
@eddjordan2399
@eddjordan2399 3 жыл бұрын
thanks electro boom
@cockatieltime2259
@cockatieltime2259 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck electro he is a nursery teacher compared to photo
@K1W1fly
@K1W1fly 3 жыл бұрын
One of my local museums has a set of these supplying power to a heritage street tram system. As the trams accelerate and decelerate, the arc changes. Very cool to see working!
@djotter
@djotter Жыл бұрын
Seeing one of these at MOTAT is what drew me to this video.
@fardreaming
@fardreaming 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see this old equipment live and working, there's something artistic and magical about the way things were done in the old days.
@genericalfishtycoon3853
@genericalfishtycoon3853 Жыл бұрын
I just saw a video of some kids exploring an old Soviet bunker. Everything was falling apart and rusted to hell, but there was still power. They turned on the mercury arc rectifier and the damn thing was working like it was brand new. Impressive piece of machinery.
@fardreaming
@fardreaming Жыл бұрын
@@genericalfishtycoon3853 Awesome, do you happen to remember the video title? I love old explorations like that.
@genericalfishtycoon3853
@genericalfishtycoon3853 Жыл бұрын
@@fardreaming By a "Shiey", video is called "Found huge 1940s bunker complex with power and water" They turn on the mercury arc rectifier at 9:25
@alanfoxall5406
@alanfoxall5406 3 жыл бұрын
I was a student apprentice with Hackbridge and Hewittic in 1966 when they still making the MAR.
@oldgoat5589
@oldgoat5589 3 жыл бұрын
I worked there for a time in the sixties, and was fascinated by these rectifiers, and also by the huge 240 MVA & 400 MVA transformers built there - and the testing of them. Shipping them out via Wynn's and Pickfords was fun, too.
@1974UTuber
@1974UTuber 3 жыл бұрын
Such a shame that the mystery, romance and the glow has gone out of electrical devices these days. I am all for efficiency and safety but you gotta love the blue glow
@jacobshort6528
@jacobshort6528 Жыл бұрын
About ten or so years ago, I saw an advert in a magazine for a retro-tech style record player for LP aficionados, and it had these vacuum tubes socketed into the corners because they glowed and electric blue color. Very cool, but difficult to find replacement parts for.
@modtwentyeight
@modtwentyeight Жыл бұрын
I am always fascinated by the "touch and die" switchboards. Nice restoration.
@Phantomthecat
@Phantomthecat 3 жыл бұрын
I saw some in operation when I was a kid on the train line that transported coal from Yallourne Open Cut to the Briquette Factory I Morwell (Victoria, Australia). They were dotted along the track in the power houses to run the DC overhead line for the trains and as the train approached they got brighter then went back to a dull base glow like these as the train got further up the line. We were being shown by a friend of Dads who worked on them - he called them ‘The Purple Octopus’. I worked there when I left School and they had only just replaced them when I started as an Electrician. The units were still in situ but not connected - that was in 1987 so the were in service for quite some time. 👍
@SquillyMon
@SquillyMon 3 жыл бұрын
I continue to be TOTALLY and COMPLETELY amazed by how people could design electrical items like this during the infancy of electrical power.
@keithbaker1951
@keithbaker1951 Жыл бұрын
You would think it was infancy but from HIStory we actually see entire cities filled with trams and millions of electric lights in the various " worlds fairs" in the mid to late 1800s. I was always taught that the 1800s were filled with oil lanterns and dust when in reality massive construction projects happened worldwide with bustling electric systems seemingly popping up overnight. If anything our electric vehicles are way behind what was being done back then. Almost like entropy is real.
@marionette5968
@marionette5968 3 жыл бұрын
HOW CAN YOU ONLY HAVE 2 VIDEOS. THIS IS AMAZING. PLEASE MAKE MORE.
@Kay1a73
@Kay1a73 Жыл бұрын
I was an apprentice electrician in a steel works in the mid 70s. The older end of the works employed these MARs. I could never walk past them without being intrigued by their operation and captivated by their beauty. Thank you for posting this video.
@TrimeshSZ
@TrimeshSZ 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing one of these things (well, a smaller one) running an elevator somewhere on the Northern line of the London Underground sometime in the late '80s. Apparently the plan was to swap it out when it failed - but it had just carried on working...
@worldcomicsreview354
@worldcomicsreview354 3 жыл бұрын
Well-maintained "big" electrical machinery can just keep going and going, like the trams in Blackpool. Where I live in Japan has some pretty old trains running, too. They just get shunted from cities to increasingly-rural services. Then perhaps to the Phillippines, Indonesia etc to do decades more service there.
@johnmurrell3175
@johnmurrell3175 3 жыл бұрын
They sometimes failed but taking them out and putting them on a lorry and taking them for a drive to the manufacturers was normally enough to disturb the deposits inside and get them functioning again !
@rarrawer
@rarrawer 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining the basics of mercury rectifiers. I've seen and heard of them before as obscure relics from the past and never really understood the principles of operation. Now I still do not understand it to my satisfaction but I understand a great deal more than I did before watching this video.
@andrewwhite1793
@andrewwhite1793 3 жыл бұрын
As a child I remember going to central London from Kent. There are some big metal doors just outside Embankment tube station. I was fascinated by the glow through the crack from the mercury arc rectified that powered the tube line traction current. I wonder how much UV there is in that glow...
@lineshaftrestorations7903
@lineshaftrestorations7903 3 жыл бұрын
Considering these use the same principle as mercury vapor lamps but without the phosphor, there must have been a lot of free UV light present.
@heyarno
@heyarno 3 жыл бұрын
As long as they don't use special glass, the glass should absorb most of the UV-C spectrum. But it might still not be smart to stare at that for too long.
@ghoulardi8875
@ghoulardi8875 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was wondering about the UV as well. Maybe the glass thickness of the bulb itself is enough. And/or, the panels in front of the cabinets, which look like plexiglass, might actually be glass and provide further attenuation.
@thecloneguyz
@thecloneguyz 3 жыл бұрын
@@heyarno we use UVC bulbs in our marijuana grow room at five minute intervals three times a day to prevent any infestations from insects or bacteria If any insects or bacteria are caught in the spectrum of that light they end up irradiated
@maxdavies9958
@maxdavies9958 3 жыл бұрын
@@thecloneguyz Why you growing marijuana? lol
@brady5829
@brady5829 3 жыл бұрын
Commenting to feed the youtube algorithm. Excellent informative video, great explanation David Walker.
@noelcastle3986
@noelcastle3986 4 ай бұрын
Great videos operated and did some maintenance on these in the late seventies as a young technician much larger units than shown on this video. DC was still being supplied at 500volts + to - to supply old lifts and escalators in Sydney Australia . The sub converted 11kv three phase to 6 phase low voltage then into the MAR,s then onto a big DC switchboard that looks like something out of Frankensteins Lab. I felt privileged back then to work on such strange and interesting technology , it was shut down completely in the early eighties and customers had to install local rectification in their switchrooms to run their old DC equipment.
@swordfishtrigger
@swordfishtrigger Жыл бұрын
the mercury vapor bulbs are about the coolest version of real science being as wild as science fiction. but personally i find all those well maintained, now-antiquated switches and meters to be the most beautiful part of this display.
@peterwhite51
@peterwhite51 3 жыл бұрын
I worked part time as a projectionist in the 60s and our Gaumont Kalee projectors used these to produce DC for the Arc projection light source. Biggest problem was keeping the arc centre frame!
@PerspectiveEngineer
@PerspectiveEngineer 3 жыл бұрын
that's crazy!, Peter thanksfor the story
@realliferetro6271
@realliferetro6271 3 жыл бұрын
I used to use these as late as 1998! I was a projectionist at a cinema in Cornwall and these rectifiers were used for our carbon arcs which were the light source for the projectors.
@johnshaw359
@johnshaw359 Жыл бұрын
One of my best memories was doing an installation for London Underground around '97 when a chap said "you wanna see this", opened an old decrepit wooden box and one of these was still operational, reminded me of an old Frankenstein film, I was impressed.
@flyingmerkel6
@flyingmerkel6 Жыл бұрын
And a big thank you to whoever saved this equipment from the scrap heap.
@railgap
@railgap 3 жыл бұрын
Love the wooden propellers for cooling!
@bjoernphotography
@bjoernphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Really good - and really impressive! It’s good to see such a technology conserved and also still working
@npsfam
@npsfam Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing one of those mercury arc bulbs and had always wondered, what that little electrode bouncing around was doing. Thanks to bring back this technology view.
@spikester
@spikester 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see gems of videos unburied I never seen before all due to photonicinduction. Nice job on this one. Cheers.
@I967
@I967 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. I visited Kempton in November 2017, but the engine wasn't running and we didn't see these rectifiers. But there was a very kind gentleman who gave us a lovely tour of the triple expansion engines and the turbines in the basement. He also told us an interesting story about how a stuck water valve caked up with scale was unstuck. I have to visit again sometime, when the engine will be powered. Thank you for sharing! Matthew
@fpfree8821
@fpfree8821 3 жыл бұрын
I967 so how did they get it unstuck?
@ScoriacTears
@ScoriacTears 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh. . . There's gotta be a few Photonicinduction fans in the chat eh? Greeting conrades. :)
@acolytetojippity
@acolytetojippity Жыл бұрын
I watched this, and still have no idea how these things work. but they have to be the single most steampunk devices I have ever seen.
@ShadowOfMachines
@ShadowOfMachines Жыл бұрын
Electrical equipment from the past look all kinds of magical.
@elkvis
@elkvis 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see some high speed video of the arc jumping from anode to anode. Maybe reach out to the slow mo guys
@markcummins6571
@markcummins6571 3 жыл бұрын
In America I saw units that were similar in function used in various aluminum smelting plants. The voltages delivered to the pot lines were considerably lower, but the amps were out of sight. Huge magnetic fields made you work differently.
@flybobbie1449
@flybobbie1449 3 жыл бұрын
Friend described how powerful the magnetic field was around a simple spot welder.
@markcummins6571
@markcummins6571 3 жыл бұрын
@@flybobbie1449 in potline use there were hundreds of these tubes in parallel. Buss bars were routed just below ground surface. If you used a shovel it would point to the buss by magnetism alone almost 20' feet away. If you crossed the buried buss (aluminum 4' x 4' square) with a running engine it would stop before you got close. This was the site kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ib15bLGF3NvanGQ.html. In 1980 when I was providing support it was called Anaconda Aluminum
@soundvision5273
@soundvision5273 Жыл бұрын
After working in a USA power plant for almost 30 years, I find this fascinating. His explanation was absolute
@ismoleppanen
@ismoleppanen Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I once visited the power station supplying the trolleybus system in Tampere, Finland. One could clearly see the difference, when a trolleybus accelerated.
@thelenzperspective8297
@thelenzperspective8297 Жыл бұрын
All these people in the comments here are what we need more of! Love to see it. This world is truely fascinating.
@AbeYoung
@AbeYoung 3 жыл бұрын
More please. David Walker your narration is fantastic. Thanks for making my day😘
@ADRIAAN1007
@ADRIAAN1007 3 жыл бұрын
looks more like something you would find in a space ship
@lewiemcneely9143
@lewiemcneely9143 3 жыл бұрын
Google 'Fortress The Last Day Of War' and see what you think.
@steveurbach3093
@steveurbach3093 3 жыл бұрын
That would be something E.E. 'Doc' Smith might have used with his giant Bus Bars
@BrightBlueJim
@BrightBlueJim 3 жыл бұрын
Probably the 1940s flying saucers used these. But then, they may have just used DC generators to avoid needing rectifiers.
@gavincurtis
@gavincurtis 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrightBlueJim I thought only the Coppernicus class interplanetary scout vehicles used DC generators of that time. It has been so long, I forget....
@BrightBlueJim
@BrightBlueJim 3 жыл бұрын
@@gavincurtis I have similar issues with my memories of that period, but I don't think that AC generators became popular until vacuum tube rectifiers were introduced, mainly because of weight issues - mercury is quite heavy. I think even within the Copernicus class, there were significant technical advances over the class's lifetime, so we could both be right.
@effyleven
@effyleven Жыл бұрын
I saw rectifiers of this type during a school trip to the GPO's Doddinghurst Long Distance Radio Station, near Brentwood, Essex. For a 14 year old, they were fascinating devices to watch as the glowing cyan light danced about in the bottle! The Radio Station is long gone.. part of the site being under a housing estate... ... and I am now 76!
@jasonwilde197
@jasonwilde197 3 жыл бұрын
Soo cool people figured these things out back in the day! Looks like it's WAY ahead of it's time! Nowadays, people are more concerned with which color to dye their hair, or which soy latte is the best.
@explosevgamr5349
@explosevgamr5349 3 жыл бұрын
absolutely fascinating. i love seeing how this old technology works
@craigenglish8369
@craigenglish8369 3 жыл бұрын
Well that brings back memories of working as an "assistant projectionist" at the Savoy Cinema. The first job when you got to work was to "flash up" the mercury arc rectifier to provide DC power to the carbon arc projectors and slide projector. The rectifier was in a separate room underneath the circle seats, which meant you had to walk through a dark cinema, just with the aid of a torch, to the room and power up the rectifier. The UV glow lit up the whole of the dark cinema, very eerie, bit like the "Quatermass Experiment" film. If it didn't "flash up" when it was powered up the trick was to slam the door to the cabinet and that usually worked, guess it was to get the starter electrode to operate. The cinema is long gone now, I wonder what happened to the rectifier and all that mercury.
@chrisfoster9080
@chrisfoster9080 3 жыл бұрын
I am not much younger than Mr Walker, but i would pay money to apprentice under him. people like David hold the knowledge of the past. Thank you so much for posting this.
@osvaldocristo
@osvaldocristo Жыл бұрын
Thank you for post that! Almost 20 years ago I discovered an abandoned rectifier station for electric trains in an abandoned site. The station looked perfect with all stuff, including the big transformers and all instruments in the control room, except for the mercury arc rectifier tubes. I think the output voltage was 3,000 V... For some years now all was gone and the station doesn´t exist anymore, except in my memories and in a few pictures I made then.
@StonyRC
@StonyRC 3 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful working museum. Once Covid is consigned to the dustbin of history, I'm going to pay them a visit.
@Mercmad
@Mercmad 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for Marty Feldman to make an Appearance when the rectifiers went to 40 Amps.
@kingofcastlechaos
@kingofcastlechaos Жыл бұрын
Fascinating time period. For all these amazing devices, there must be a million near-misses and close calls. I bet the blooper reel from that time period would be terrifying to watch.
@tothemaxx1991
@tothemaxx1991 3 жыл бұрын
First saw M.A.R.s in a PhotonicInduction video! These are *SO COOL*
@alisonwalker4825
@alisonwalker4825 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@sturmifan
@sturmifan 3 жыл бұрын
photonicinduction just has one of these in some cupboard somewhere in his house
@markfrombriz
@markfrombriz 6 ай бұрын
Incredible and scary engineering,.kudos to the ballsy engineers that invented and tested this concept
@803mastiff9
@803mastiff9 3 жыл бұрын
This was very interesting. Electricity back in the day was visually entertaining.
@ConalRF
@ConalRF 3 жыл бұрын
This is getting recommended after watching Photonicinduction.
@alch3myau
@alch3myau 3 жыл бұрын
You watch one photonicinduction video in 2021 and now yt thinks I want to see mercury arc rectifiers.. well I do, just not on the screen !
@richardcommins4926
@richardcommins4926 Жыл бұрын
I am always amazed at how far we have come with electricity and electronics from those days.
@jussikankinen9409
@jussikankinen9409 Ай бұрын
Really, electric cars were much better then
@VoidHalo
@VoidHalo Жыл бұрын
I love these things so much. The blue spectral glow of mercury is so eery.
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool devices. Pity mercury is so stupidly toxic; I'd love to have one in my workshop. Every mad scientist needs one of these babies in his lab.
@alakani
@alakani 3 жыл бұрын
There are other kinds of big tube rectifiers too like tungsten-argon
@cockatieltime2259
@cockatieltime2259 3 жыл бұрын
Only toxic if your dumb break it then touch it its like lithium batteries there only dangerous to idiots
@cockatieltime2259
@cockatieltime2259 3 жыл бұрын
Oh a battery it soft let's bend it *explosion /flames *
@NIGHTOWL-jf9zt
@NIGHTOWL-jf9zt 3 жыл бұрын
Check out this video of a man testing one out in his lab, it's 50 years old never been fired up. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aNZ0ltlnzJeqdWQ.html
@davel5845
@davel5845 3 жыл бұрын
@@NIGHTOWL-jf9zt For Lab read front room.
@larrybav
@larrybav 3 жыл бұрын
1:50 Actually, 50 Hz current reverses direction 100 times per second. Each reversal is 1/2 cycle.
@thecloneguyz
@thecloneguyz 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer a 120hz refresh rate...
@c31979839
@c31979839 3 жыл бұрын
But he said reverses current. Not reverses direction. So he is correct with saying 50 times a second. You only have current travelling in reverse direction once every cycle.
@peterudbjorg
@peterudbjorg 3 жыл бұрын
@@c31979839 And of course, for bigger currents onbe would use 3-phase with 3 or 6 anodes. :)
@johnmurrell3175
@johnmurrell3175 3 жыл бұрын
@@peterudbjorg For large currents in traction sub-stations we used 12 phase both for MARs and now Silicon rectifiers. 12 Phase is used to reduce the ripple and harmonic currents.
@videogalore
@videogalore 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this - very much appreciated! Really good to see these even from a distance and hopefully we can visit and see this museum in person in the coming years!
@wolflocke
@wolflocke Жыл бұрын
Shiey recently went into an old WWII bunker that had one of these in it. And it still powered right up. Mad stuff, especially now that I understand how it works.
@bennylloyd-willner9667
@bennylloyd-willner9667 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! No wonder some people thought of electricity as witchcraft.
@buxvan
@buxvan Жыл бұрын
Catweasel did !
@lllllREDACTEDlllll
@lllllREDACTEDlllll 3 жыл бұрын
Some crazy person will hook one of these up in their living room some day...
@thegiantgaming7592
@thegiantgaming7592 3 жыл бұрын
Insert "Photonic Induction"
@lllllREDACTEDlllll
@lllllREDACTEDlllll 3 жыл бұрын
@@thegiantgaming7592 "wink"
@SergeiMosin
@SergeiMosin Жыл бұрын
This is unbelievable to see in action. I know it's not an efficient system compared to modern converters, but I am beyond glad to see the museum rescued and preserved such a wonderful piece of engineering history
@robertliskey420
@robertliskey420 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you most of all for preserving this, And second for sharing I for one appreciate it.
@nothinghere615
@nothinghere615 3 жыл бұрын
PhotonicInduction sent me here.
@paulmurgatroyd6372
@paulmurgatroyd6372 3 жыл бұрын
It's great when you can tell something is working just by looking at it. This is like something out of a Hammer Horror film. Solid state just doesn't have any soul to it.
@Yusa9204
@Yusa9204 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, no soul at all.
@CockatooDude
@CockatooDude 3 жыл бұрын
I mean to be fair, it's not like it's particularly important for electrical components to have a "soul". They just have to work. Whether that's by mercury vapour or silicon doping doesn't matter much to me.
@paulmurgatroyd6372
@paulmurgatroyd6372 3 жыл бұрын
@@CockatooDude I just think it's nice to see how things work, makes it more interesting. No one wants to sit and stare at a PC.
@CockatooDude
@CockatooDude 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulmurgatroyd6372 I mean, that depends on the PC I guess. If it's got a full water cooling loop and dynamic RGB then it can be pretty nice to look at. That said, I do get what you're saying.
@paulmurgatroyd6372
@paulmurgatroyd6372 3 жыл бұрын
@@CockatooDude I think I just prefer big, robust engineering, which is why I like steam trains more than modern ones. I like the mindset of people who built things to last.
@drawingboard82
@drawingboard82 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic. What a marvelous museum. Thank you so much for your efforts and for sharing.
@RedPee2000
@RedPee2000 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, never heard of it before! Very well presented, thank you!
@jkfgaming7273
@jkfgaming7273 3 жыл бұрын
Who's here after PhotonicInduction's video?
@olsmokey
@olsmokey 3 жыл бұрын
What voltage drop did the rectifiers have under load?
@davida1hiwaaynet
@davida1hiwaaynet 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing this amazing DC system with its mercury arc rectifiers. This is truly art and a treasure to have.
@roberthorwat6747
@roberthorwat6747 3 жыл бұрын
Always been fascinated by these mercury rectifiers. Superb presentation, learned a little too!⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@-yeme-
@-yeme- 3 жыл бұрын
rectifiers are nice but those switches are lush too
@NotnaRed
@NotnaRed 3 жыл бұрын
KZfaq: Sooooo you watched Photonicinduction's video about mercury arc rectifiers. Well anyways, here's another one.
@joaopedrodebarrosdaeira5466
@joaopedrodebarrosdaeira5466 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao true
@MemeReviewer
@MemeReviewer 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for restoring these beauties, that blue glow is so heartwarming!
@murrayhorn8817
@murrayhorn8817 3 жыл бұрын
Heard of it, never seen it. Beautiful, thanks for restoring and sharing.
@leinadreign3510
@leinadreign3510 3 жыл бұрын
This looks so much retro sci-fi, I still think this is some kind of old science fiction show set X D
@flybobbie1449
@flybobbie1449 3 жыл бұрын
I would be scared of all the open contacts on the switches.
@swebigmac100
@swebigmac100 3 жыл бұрын
Photonic induction brought me here
@mrsirpantsalot
@mrsirpantsalot 6 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks for the hard work in making and sharing this! Fascinating to learn to this!!
@RobertNES816
@RobertNES816 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the coolest thing I've seen in a while!
@skogpekka
@skogpekka 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Photonicinduction (search here on KZfaq) has one in his living room, powered up. Go have a look. =)
@FM60260
@FM60260 3 жыл бұрын
Is the 6 phase from 415V 3 phase but with two of each phase opposite each other?
@andrewlindh5047
@andrewlindh5047 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. The basement transformer splits each of the 3 phases into two. Take look at: www.vias.org/matsch_capmag/matsch_caps_magnetics_chap6_12_07.html
@FM60260
@FM60260 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewlindh5047 Wow, that's confusing
@matthewday7565
@matthewday7565 3 жыл бұрын
All phases inverted - if you just had the 3 phases, you would have 3 peaks 120 degrees apart, and smoothing that much power with capacitors would be impractical. Now if you invert the Phases.. A peaks at 0 degrees B at 120 C at 240 -A at 180 -B at 300 -C at 60 So now the peaks are only 60 degrees apart, and it doesn't drop far between them - like having twice as many cylinders makes an engine smoother
@KayOSweaver
@KayOSweaver 3 жыл бұрын
Came across a couple of these in the powerhouse of a decomissioned railyard, they were still operational and beautiful to look at. Glad to know more about what they do and how they work.
@Brandon-rc9vp
@Brandon-rc9vp 3 жыл бұрын
great video, thank you for sharing and demonstrating the increase in load especially
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