Ken Loach absolutely DESTROYS Keir Starmer is a dreadful strapline, really makes what Ken Loach says look juvenile until you listen to it. A better caption would be Ken Loach explains Keir Starmer Brainless jargon makes DDN look idiotic. The video is good, change the caption.

But he is arguing against his own points saying that Jeremy should have been ruthless because the other side was. He is admitting that he was naive and yet he is criticizing the so-called ruthlessness of Kier Starmer. I wish he would see the contradiction in his own argument. Besides Jeremy lost badly. He was/is a good person but he had too much baggage (association with IRA and Hamas) and was not a leader. Politics is a dirty business whether you like it or not. It is more about marketing than about truth and Jeremy was lousy at that. That is the truth on the ground. Now you can either accept that or sit on the sideline and keep dreaming of an impossible utopia.

@Bentcop . biz His contradicted his own argument. He is a dreamer and only in our dreams, we can contradict our own arguments without consequence. Reality is very different.

@@raygooch Although I agree with your sentiment regarding childish clickbait titles, you imply that Ken is childish (unless it is a typo). Everything he says is valid and pertinent.

@@ExiledGypsy There is a contrdiction in his narrative. The big issue for the left is should it be Idealist, like the Corbynists, or Realist, like the Mandelson crew. I feel that Ken is right to bring the left into the real political world, which is of course full of accepted contradictions, so as to not be exiled to the wilderness. All political ideologies are loaded with contradiction. The left just seem unable to communicate their particular contradictions in a way that inspires confidence. Ps, I would prefer the Corbyn way to the Mandelson way.

loach=jeremy corbyn fanboy

He always does.

Cutting though all the crap is his great talent ,

😅spot on Ken !

He is a Judas they all are stammer even said he's a remained 😂 what a double headed snake

Sickening

Very prescient I think.

2 years one, even even more. The guy just criticised Tory spending/taxing plans as "Corbynite". He uses Corbyn's name as an insult - the guy he claimed to support so he could climb to power, only to stab in the back (bad enough), and now even publicly insult. A total snake.

And that is true.

They’ve done it to so many times, I also remember what they did to Arthur Scargill, vicious. And in fact they are like that on most trade Union issues, it’s weird seeing the relative soft footing around the RMT, but still they don’t give them airtime to explain the disputes properly, and it’s not as we know only about money. Bit when you have the Leader of the Labour Party forbidding MPs from picket lines…well what to say.

@@careyostrer6193 you are so right

The BBC avoid national current affairs almost entirely while the Tories are in totally in disrepute, ,, Very vulnerable on the floor and left to recover, ..The nation will fall for the mass medai propoganda and here we go again, another round with those pillaging a nation,

and the traitors, the sabotaging melts from within the party. This tory chaos is in no small part on them too

I don’t know this guy from Larry, and I’m not arguing one way or the other so calm down. Not being funny but how do you come to your conclusion and why should I believe it? This just looks like another political attack and frankly, political attacks always have a motive.. What’s the motive here and is it a reasonable outcome to follow?

Very well said.

@@ascgazz7347 A cursory search on the internet will quickly inform you who Ken Loach is and why he is described as a man of integrity and honour.

He is a has been.. the world has moved on.. maybe it's time to win labour.. not live in the beardie past and lose!!!!

@@ascgazz7347 Ken Loach has been a Labour party activist since I was at primary school (55 years ago) and is famous for making films such as "Cathy Come Home", "I Daniel Blake" and "Sorry we Missed You" which are overtly political and highlight the problems of working class people and their oppression by the capitalist system. He is a friend and supporter of Jeremy Corbyn and left the party recently under threat of expulsion. If you don't know him, you really should.

I'd vote for him.

Mick Lynch and Eddie Dempsey are the sound of what the Labour Party once was. Jeremy Corbyn didn’t lose because of his policies to help ordinary people. The establishment felt threatened and he had to go.The only way to sort this out is for a change in the electoral system . FPTP is a tired electoral dictatorship. We need a system where each vote truly counts. If for example 60% voted for left wing or anti establishment parties. Then they would have 60% of the seats. That won’t ever happen under the current system. And the conservatives only need about 36% to have a huge majority.

donkey

Takes excoriation to a shining new level.

Ken Woach. Looks good, talks b*llocks.

I come from a red wall area , I always voted labour but never again , both party’s are the same now , what’s the point eh ? Money always wins

@@tonyclarke9269 Money wins because you stop voting and, therefore, you stop fighting

@@tonymac1257 so do we vote for then ? The whole system is corrupt to the core now

The far left's problem is they have 20% support at most, and they think they can win anything by calling the remaining 80% names.

He's not there to win. Just to keep things stable for the rights

Stammer is there to make sure the interests of the monied and the interests of apartheid Israel are not jeopardised. He doesn't have to win a General Election to succeed in his mission.

@@greenwoodorganics4681 Like Starmer is doing any better.

@@greenwoodorganics4681 Who is talking about "The Far Left"? Corbyn was never Far Left anyway. He is only Far Left to the Far Right.

What paper should I read instead?

Read the holy Bible

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Problem with corbyn was he never going to be PM. He was Honest Thought mostly of the public and not the top 1% Worked with dignity Stood up for what was right and against what was wrong in society and the world Against racism Was anti war. And so on He had all characteristics which made him a bad politician and would never had become PM. Starmer has all the traits (none of the above) which makes him a good candidate to become PM. This political system is protected by the elite and we’re programmed by mainstream media. Our votes don’t count. If they did , corbyn would be PM today.

@@Fa-uk5fb What appalls me is the gullibility & stupidity of the common man, media campaign notwithstanding. How could they reject a man like J Corbyn & choose a clown, & that too with such a thumping majority? Time has shown the sheer stupidity of their choice and no wonder they are paying the price of that choice today.

Also a communist whose party have ruined the UK with open door immigration. He supported to many bad people & couldn't possibly have become primeminister. I will never vote Labour again. Reform UK 🇬🇧 is the party.

Corbyn was destroyed largely by The weaponising of anti-semitism. Get the book if you can.

@@RedScotland I think people should vioce what is going on here and demand something be done about what happened to Jeremy Corbyn and election and other MPs fired resighned I for one have been called a Tory because I don't recognise the Labour party any more or it's policy's am I the only one apart from your self ?????? I can't support something I don't believe in or don't recognise or even trust

But he lost.. time to move on and win..

@@xavierhucklenbruch1798 nope, democracy doesn't end with one defeat by your enemies, which is what the blairites are.

@@xavierhucklenbruch1798 Win by standing for what? Tony Blair II?

@@xavierhucklenbruch1798 Xavier, the breadth of your commenting is a wonder. As in, "I wonder when you'll try a change?"

@@xavierhucklenbruch1798 TROLL FO!

so did I , Ken never changes ,thankfully.

I'd say it's worse. Labour is now the u turn party and couldn't find it in their hearts to rebuke a genocide when it's right in front of them.

He makes poverty porn.

@@scotchegg3419 No he doesn't. Channel Five and Channel Four do. ITV started it with the Jeremy Kyle show.

Cathy come home we talked about it in the workplace. It was debated in Parliament.

@@scotchegg3419 He has made (and still makes) films that sensitively and accurately reflect lives as lived by people who are not usually depicted in the mainstream. 'Kes' is my favourite but: 'Up The Junction', 'Cathy Come Home', 'Raining Stones', 'Poor Cow', 'Riff Raff', 'I, Daniel Blake', 'Bread and Roses' are all worth checking out too. Just to mention a few. They are as far from 'porn', as you put it, as you could possibly get, as porn is simply voyeauristic and doesn't have compassion. They do deal with poverty of course, with empathy and accurately and that is the point.

that is exactly why he has been blacklisted

Ken ,as an Iraqi construction worker, I too say you are bloody legend.

As a not so humble London Bus Driver I say go Ken!!!!

So is john pilger sadly like ken age will take them rail rail against the dying of the light,

As a retired blue colour leftie in Australia, I'm with you. Our ALP is run by the right faction, too.

@@mrkalm58 Maaaate! I work in the outback! We are brothers of sweating our arses off in places way too hot for any person in their right mind to live or work. lol. Respect from Australia... 👍

Stalin said it in a similar way

I remember 'Cathy Come Home'! Late 60s?

Walk? Ken floats...

It's the working class who got rid of the left . They stabbed Corbyn in the back and voted in Boris. If you want to get elected in England you have to become right wing, if you don't you become UN-electable. The intellectual left fail to understand that the majority of working class people love tho struggle financially. . They feel sorry for the multi billionaires who nare having a hard time of it.

@@drmontague6475 It's not that you miraculously become "unelectable", it's that the establishment will do everything in their power to prevent it, and since they are devoid of basic decency, morals, and respect for law, no act is too low. I assure you, there is absolutely nobody in this country who enjoy being unable to feed their family and having to rely on food banks, even though they are in what the tories would call "gainful employment". How are the billionaires having a hard time of anything? They are paying corp tax at a rate of 1.87% whilst those already under a burden of debt have just been billed for the shortfall, come on...

Or even a fraction would make a difference.

I only stayed to vote for a better leader should Starmer resign.

Such a cop out.

12:42 "The mass media are our enemy. They've declared war, and we know whose interests they represent."

I attack the media in nearly every post I have written for years now, That is the key,

In 20 years the country will be filled with labour camps, and the poor will be the ones working for the rich. If there is a world at all.

We are in this position because people are just brain dead.

They will wake up when the media tells them to and sadly not before; don't hold your breath.

Actually people are waking up, its just being covered up and its getting harder for the rulers to do so with good reason

Young people see the truth.. Sadly older people see fear and lies as truth..

Vote reform or heritage then don't waste your vote. 😊

@@kevinadamson5768 Not looked into Herritage but why Reform? Farrage has already made it clear he wants us to move to private health care system and will sell off the NHS the first chance he gets.

I applaud your comment.

It’s there , but hidden dictatorship and manliutaion over the years has numbed people , 2 parties , take your pick , the people on voting day have the power of the country at their fingertips , but will as always follow like sheep FACT

Your none vote leaves the Tories and labour in power use the vote ,Vote for the independent working class party let's get Jeremy Corbyn or George Galloway

Did you support Blair? 😕

My story exactly.

Me too, left Labour and gone Green. Shame after 50yrs 😢

Good friend of mine did too

I did too. What they did to corbyn broke my heart

Yes. The entire tory cabinet. Blair and all those British politicians who are aligned with friends of Israel group.

Blairs right hand man.

the mere sight of little lord mandelson makes me gag...

BorisJohnson ?

Kier Starmer.

There are not many left.

Corporate dominance of society in so many ways. It’s sad and annoying.

same here. I left the moment Starmer was elected. And fortunately/unfortunately, his actions since has showed that we made the right choice to leave.

Agreed

100%.

I think Ken supported Left Unity until JC took over Labour.

I wish he would then Labour will be shot of all the posh public school/sheltered middle class left that have infested and destroyed the party and can start concentrating on issues that concern the working class (which ISNT the clapped out 19th century drivel from your posh school's politics classes.)

Wake up.

New party needed urgently. No point in reviving the current Labour Party. It’s dead. J

@@fmj9346 No point in a new party without proportional representation, as it won't get anywhere. You can fight for PR outside of the Labour Party by helping organisations like Make Votes Matter or push for it from within.

Well said. Although the whole system needs radical reforms

I agree with all of you. I want Labour to be a left-wing party that fights class injustices and strives for equality. But I think that it's too late. I have hope, but it's fading fast. I've left Labour. My membership seemed to endorse the current position of the party and I couldn't do that. I don't know who I'll vote for next. I live in a strong Tory seat, atm. No other party has a chance of getting in, so it never feels as if my vote counts. I desperately want PR. The Greens will probably get my vote. I wish that it could help them to have a louder voice in parliament. And I wish that the current Labour leadership would adopt more green policies. But they're just wishes :(

@@miaschu8175 You could help support and campaign with Make Votes Matter for PR. Also, if you join an affiliated trade union you'll still be able to vote in future Labour Party leadership elections.

Paul Mason has been bought, wealthy but morally bankrupt, the Mephistopheles trade off.

It certainly appears Paul Mason is either several sandwiches short of a picnic...Or just another shitehouse.

Excellently put

@@Naughtymrpixels I used to think he was serious.

@@josemengelez6947 a pal of mine had a theory about people who’s eyes are too close together.

How much an hour do they pay arse lickers these days ?

🙈

Thank goodness we don't give him much credance.

They only want evil people in the high positions!! 😏

Is there a party whose policy is proportional representation?

You're correct but no party will offer a vote on it unless they know it won't succeed. The Establishment will never give up their power base for democracy.

@@andylucas1175 There is the problem. There is no movement towards proportional representation.

@@christiaantheron9080 The Greens and the Lib Dems support PR. There is also the organisation Make Votes Matter which is cross party.

Sortition for Australia!!!

I hope they do. Birds of a feather

I know...sad.😖

@@hayleyannamathieson7261 Don't be sad. As was said, be complimented. The attacks have only intensified because the danger to the status quo was genuinely threatened. Organise.

It may hurt some but you know where you stand with tories, and as it is right now I'd find it hard to vote Labour. We have a Tory MP for the first time, and if the candidate is full on Starmer they won't get my vote at all.

The problem is....that we need to change the electoral system.

It's the working class who got rid of the left . They stabbed Corbyn in the back and voted in Boris. If you want to get elected in England you have to become right wing, if you don't you become UN-electable. The intellectual left fail to understand that the majority of working class people love tho struggle financially. . They feel sorry for the multi billionaires who nare having a hard time of it.

And if found guilty, hung!

get real it was the working class that stabbed Corbyn in the back

I think Stalin would have said something similar

You Communist's are dangerous

Oh and also, he should’ve got rid of people like Margaret Hodge and the rest of those toxic players (Mandy) who weaponised anti Semitism as a tool to get rid of them.

@@engleblerthumferlumpadinck6536 yes true with the Luciana stuff. I think JC would’ve dealt with the pandemic a whole load better than BJ and co.

I agree but that would have been reactionary and would have gone against him. It would also have run counter to his integrity. I have the utmost respect for Corbyn, but he isn't politic. He is a good person - he often reacts out of emotion, rather than having a cool head. Yet, he thinks about things and sees how we need to listen and compromise with others. He's definitely complicated. But above all, he's a decent man and refuses to play the game. He was always going to be open to mendacious attacks. I wish that he'd had a better strategist on his side, to help him counter those who twisted his meanings and tarnished his reputation. He wasn't the man for that fight.

@@miaschu8175 To me has always a poor mans Tony Benn. Whether right or wrong, both shared very similar principled values and stood for what they believed in (which often mean't disobeying the party whip). Benn and his family also succumbed to constant vile attacks by the right wing media in the 1970's, with headlines like "The most dangerous man in Britain" - all because he campaigned against our common market membership which ironically the Tories and right wing media all supported back in the day.

It's the working class who got rid of the left . They stabbed Corbyn in the back and voted in Boris. If you want to get elected in England you have to become right wing, if you don't you become UN-electable. The intellectual left fail to understand that the majority of working class people love tho struggle financially. . They feel sorry for the multi billionaires who nare having a hard time of it.

I totally agree

He lost .. time to move on.

He and RLB always were the only ones.

@@xavierhucklenbruch1798 No where to move to.

@@xavierhucklenbruch1798 - by becoming the most right wing the Labour Party will have ever been? No thanks. I was a fool to think Starmer would be an okay leader. I’m appalled by how he has behaved.

@@xavierhucklenbruch1798 Long past time to show some opposition !!

Coming to an arthouse theatre near you!

The centre left want the left to win power. There is no point in having far left leaders who get slaughtered by the far right. We need moderate peace loving, human rights respecting centre left Labour leaders.

You see it's hard, left wingers believe in justice you won't sink to the same level. But yes we should have seen this coming.

We don't have free speech in the party anymore. Anytime somebody on the left becomes a CLP chair, a Momentum branch chair, stands for election to the NEC or NPF or becomes a council candidate they get suspended. Then they will go for the members who don't do anything in the party other than attend branch and constituency meetings and fundraisers, knock on doors and deliver leaflets.

@@lemsip207 Yep, Starmer has went full Tory plant on this one. Purge the party of any left leaning MP's, replace them with centre right ones, then tell Labour members they have no right to vote and then the new right leaning MP's can continue the status quo.

@@lemsip207 You don't have free speech because when you do you embarrass the labour party by constantly yammering on about pro nouns and other nonsense that no cunt in the real world cares about. Stop placating every fringe element of our society going and you'd actually be in with a chance.

@@paulies5407 Tell me you are a transphobe without saying you are a transphobe ^

Me to

Me too

See my comment above, Corbyn was destroyed largely by the weaponising of anti-semitism.

I was campaigning for Labour in the last two elections and helped turn a tory seat into Labour on the back of Corbyn and the hope we all had. Imagine how we all felt when realising that right wing Labour and their centrist supporters were working against a Labour government and social justice. We haven't gone away. This Labour Party is here to destroy the hope. We scared them in 2017 and can do it again but more organised.

All GE’s are rigged so don’t be fooled & get upset about it , we’ve got to fight the hood fight come what may

He helped cover up Jimmy Savile when he was alive.

It was James Callaghan, a LABOUR politician, who initiated primre ministers attending Bilderberg!!

Id have voted for Corbyn if he didn't have pathetic pandering ads running referring to him as "Uncle Jezzer" with black youth actors pretending they were voting for him. When somebody signs off that sort of shallow, manipulative promotion, it's hard to believe that they're coming from a place of honesty.

get real it was the working class that stabbed Corbyn in the back

Is Bilderberg similar to the Trilateral Commission, which Starmer belongs to?

He is also I believe lord of the bath (bat'kol, voice of god) What hubris!​@@lisalisker2659

Me too, democracy is dead.

@@andylucas1175 Given we live under an economic system we call capitalism, that prevents democracy in 70% of life most spend at work, and incentivises the corruption of what little democracy we get when we leave work, for the betterment of few before many, I am continually surprised at people presuming we had a democracy worth spit to begin with.

If you've left, plan on leaving or are not a member of the Labour Party for any reason, the best option is to join an affiliated trade union so you get a vote in future Labour Party leadership elections.

Please re-join Lee, fight from within.

You'll be sorely missed....

He is definitely a Stalnist figure. I shared the meme of him merged with Stalin and the Eurofanatics in the Progressive Alliance took exception to it. Progressive my foot. What unites them is opposition to brexit but most aren't left wing and some are very socially conservative. They only wanted a progressive alliance in Parliament in 2019 provided Jeremy Corbyn stood down as Labour leader.

Oh please grow up.

Great idea.

@@lemsip207 I'd love to see that meme. There's no coincide that Starmer and Stalin sound similar.

Oh dear Lord. Starmer like Stalin? Hyperbolic

lol. You confuse the word compassion with something else I think

Agreed. I was done with him the second he threw his own deputy under the bus for the Hartlepool loss. He lied and he knew it

The solution for the Labour Party was never going to be found via someone who's name is preceded with the word"Sir". Loach nails the nature of Starkers labour Party here.

We should rename Starmer to Judas

Too late damage done

I betted him to be the next leader prior to the end of corbyn He was up against no one. These women now on the front bench have proved that. Incompetent and bungling buffoons. Oh just like Doris.

Or is it just Blair, the warmonger dripping in the blood of children in the middle East & the global South , advising dear Kier. 🤪😡😱🤮

Of course they are eg Mandelson

Who gives a damn what old Ken Loach thinks?? He is history.

What truth? His opinions mean little against the last election result! That is a truth!

@@susanpatricialewis5862 I always think that people who think the 70's might be coming back are blessed. Keeping them going. Reality would kill them.

The media is a well oiled machine, glad you were able to see through it 👍

As a rule I take a look at the Tabloids and do the exact opposite.

You are not a mug I am so glad you realise what they did

At least you have the intellectual honesty to admit you were wrong.

I tend to think the exact opposite of the press including the so called 'guardian'. There is no way what the press claimed could have been happening for so long, the story would have gotten out very early. Corbyn is no dictator.

I grew up with him. He's been able to grab the conversation, through art since I was a small boy.

The working class aren't interested hence 287K views in a year

'You', as in 'the childish hysterical cranks making the Labour Party unelectable'?

Broadchurch means - Give others more power so we can end up with all of it.

@@markpub A word of sense! This is the world of Dunkirk was a victory!

How about the Tooting Popular Front.

He might have to as the Keith Stasi will kick the left out anyway

Many voters believe the lies about Jeremy still, so need a different leader.

It's sad, but you may be right :(

That would split the "labour" or "left" vote in two, you'd see a Conservative government for the indefinate future if jezza did that.

So there's nothing about the Labour Party that you could vote for?

@@markpub No, NOTHING.

@@claireowens2884 bit shouty. And like a child throwing a tantrum.

@@willpushback4874 Willy, you've used a horrible slang term for a woman's genitals as a term of abuse. Do you think that's acceptable?

@@markpub no

I did the same as you Julie and I would only ever help fund a party that had Jeremy Corbyn in it. Anything else is Tpry light and we had enough of that with Tony Blair!

And I love what Ken said about Johnson, two years ago.

Ken hits the nail on the head here and that nail is electability. The establishment knows it cannot maintain 1 party control forever, especially a party that taxes the many to enrich the few. So the goal is to mould the opposition into something tolerable.

Correct...Well that an a couple of other influential in all the right places "liberal" corporate media outlets... As described beautifully in the book Propaganda Blitz. They could easily have made the difference...Certainly in the run up to 2017 general election. Democracy genuinely died in this country as soon as real opposition and a better way of governance was on the table.

I was in the UK when the disgusting smear campaign against Jeremy was in full swing. The media is Zionist controlled. Even more disgusting were some members of the LP gleefully cheering Labour’s loss at the election.

The Guardian is a disgrace

😂crank