Ken Thompson interviewed by Brian Kernighan at VCF East 2019

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In the 1960s-1970s, Ken Thompson co-invented the UNIX operating system along with Dennis Ritchie at Bell Labs. He also worked on the language B, the operating system Plan 9, and the language Go. He and Ritchie won the Turing Award. He now works at Google. He’ll be interviewed by Brian Kernighan of “K&R” fame.
This talk took place May 4, 2019. Videography courtesy of @thegurumeditation (Facebook), @thegurumeditate (Twitter)
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0:00 Start of Video, Introductions and Updates
8:13 Start of Fireside Chat
11:02 How Ken got to Bell Labs
17:25 Origins of UNIX
22:40 Three weeks away from an OS
29:27 The PDP-11
32:48 Pipes
35:42 GREP
38:40 Languages and Evolution
46:25 Chess Computers
1:02:40 End of Chat

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@afterthesmash
@afterthesmash 5 жыл бұрын
They could make an entire movie out of AT&T trying to hire Ken Thompson, and it would be called _Searching for Ken Thompson._
@abhisheksaseendran3861
@abhisheksaseendran3861 3 жыл бұрын
you could say greping for ken thompson lol
@nathanielwoodbury2692
@nathanielwoodbury2692 3 жыл бұрын
Allan Stokes 😂😂😂
@aiisnice1453
@aiisnice1453 3 жыл бұрын
wonders of the world wide web
@1anre
@1anre 2 жыл бұрын
You feel it’ll best the Steve Jobs Biopic?
@fikrirazaq8373
@fikrirazaq8373 Жыл бұрын
I would like to have a movie about how Ken spent 3 weeks writing the UNIX in assembly, the McIlroy TMG's compiler and Dennis wrote the C compiler, and give it the title The Bell's Angels.
@y__h
@y__h 5 жыл бұрын
The faces of people that started time. Unix timestamp that is.
@arpanmukherjee4625
@arpanmukherjee4625 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comment
@alexa.davronov1537
@alexa.davronov1537 4 жыл бұрын
Good one.
@MacNerfer
@MacNerfer 3 жыл бұрын
In seconds from Jan 1, 1970
@m4heshd
@m4heshd 3 жыл бұрын
Did you forget Multics?
@harkirehal258
@harkirehal258 5 жыл бұрын
These guys are legends. And so humble. Talk about an influencer. This is an influencer!
@Gravy1255
@Gravy1255 4 жыл бұрын
He was brilliant, but to himself I think he thought he was kind of "dumb or average". Little did he know at the time; though, He co-created a language that would stand the test of time and be used as a base language for a lot of things in CS.
@knyazhefilms2154
@knyazhefilms2154 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Gravy1255 He is a man of integrity and what he thought about himself is honest. He isn't dumb but average which is not to discredit him, but the popularity of what he did is explained simply by the fact that there are many dumb and average poeople around. And those dumb and average people can comprehend what he did and simply ignored other much more brighter people in the field.
@02muarij92
@02muarij92 3 жыл бұрын
@@knyazhefilms2154 He isn't average. Lol.
@simiuciacia
@simiuciacia 11 ай бұрын
@@knyazhefilms2154 If he's average what are we?
@MikroLGS
@MikroLGS 10 ай бұрын
@@simiuciacia we are cockroaches
@theherk
@theherk 4 жыл бұрын
"Am I wasting too much time." Are you kidding? This is like the sermon on the mount. Take all the time you would like.
@PauloConstantino167
@PauloConstantino167 2 жыл бұрын
yes take all my time ken pls
@bepsays
@bepsays 5 жыл бұрын
This is the most interesting 1 hour on KZfaq I've had in years. Ken Thomposon is a fantastic storyteller!
@Whateverworksism
@Whateverworksism 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, this is the best hour I've spent on KZfaq for a while. On a site note, in case you're interested, the KZfaq channel "Computerphile" regularly features videos with Brian Kernighan. Unfortunately Ken has yet to make an appearance but Brian has a dozen videos or so.
@nirmalyasengupta7714
@nirmalyasengupta7714 5 жыл бұрын
Cannot agree more!
@arslan113
@arslan113 3 жыл бұрын
Ok iron side😂
@1anre
@1anre 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know when I spent over 1hr watching and enjoying the tales of how UNIX which eventually gave birth to the likes of LINUX came about. I was glad that I could still comprehend some of the technical topics he glazed over, since I left university.
@tomahzo
@tomahzo 2 жыл бұрын
No doubt! I wish they would have had like a follow-up session with more stories. Or that they would have extended the session.
@an2qzavok
@an2qzavok 5 жыл бұрын
Step one: turn projector off Step two: shut down the notebook Step three: take out paper notes
@alexa.davronov1537
@alexa.davronov1537 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an Algorithm...
@MarquisDeSang
@MarquisDeSang 4 жыл бұрын
"We don't need that" about personal computer. inb4 mainframe masterrace.
@Cursedminecraftman
@Cursedminecraftman 4 жыл бұрын
MarquisDeSang These guys wouldn’t be proponents of mainframes, but mini computers.
@gloriascientiae7435
@gloriascientiae7435 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I am 26 but I still do a lot on paper. I guess its just a nice esthetic, but there are some pros to organizing things on paper. And I'm a programmer, so I definetly know how to organize large file collections on a PC.
@rustycherkas8229
@rustycherkas8229 2 жыл бұрын
Yes... Exactly what UNIX was meant to be: lean, mean, efficient and functional. It's like the joke about NASA spending $14million to develop a pen that works in zero-g while the Soviets just used pencils.
@mondskiez309
@mondskiez309 4 жыл бұрын
Ken: One Week; One Week; One Week; and we had Unix.. Brian: I think programmers are not much productive these days.. Such gods speaking before mere mortals. Legendary.
@AlexanderTeterkin
@AlexanderTeterkin 3 жыл бұрын
And Ken said, Let there be UNIX: and on the third week there was UNIX. And Ken saw the UNIX, that it was good.
@VaultRaider
@VaultRaider 2 жыл бұрын
He just casually invented a game with LAN multiplayer on a machine for printing boards
@nieczerwony
@nieczerwony Жыл бұрын
Necessity is a mother of invention
@ciba2nd622
@ciba2nd622 6 ай бұрын
@@nieczerwony laziness is the mother of invention.
@Alceste_
@Alceste_ 4 ай бұрын
@@ciba2nd622 & @nieczerwony Isn't Necessity how Lazy people call Inventions?
@gregorymccoy6797
@gregorymccoy6797 Жыл бұрын
They should've let him talk all day. Amazing guys.
@vcfederation
@vcfederation Жыл бұрын
I agree! If it was up to me, I would have him talk as long as he wanted!
@AlejandroRodriguez-wt2mk
@AlejandroRodriguez-wt2mk 4 жыл бұрын
"i was 3 weeks away from creating a new OS", I have been learning how to open files for a year.
@n33to
@n33to 4 жыл бұрын
Alejandro Rodriguez true story haha. Computers are difficult.
@AlexanderTeterkin
@AlexanderTeterkin 3 жыл бұрын
In early eighties it was easier (for me in Russia) because there was no so many choices: for example if I wanted to make a fast game I had to use BIOS interrupts, so I had to find a documentation. Actually I couldn't, so I had to find people who know something about it. And I could find, I would learn from them, so finally I made fast games and other programs (sort of Midnight Commander and Fast Text Editor etc.).
@4Exp4
@4Exp4 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderTeterkin It was easier because people weren't spending time on pointless crap and methodologies but instead solved the real problems.
@1anre
@1anre 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderTeterkin Do you have a list of cool tech inventions you’ve built over the years?
@AlexanderTeterkin
@AlexanderTeterkin 2 жыл бұрын
@@1anre Sorry, I do not have such a list.
@t7t810
@t7t810 4 жыл бұрын
"And at some point, I realize without knowing it up until that point that I was three weeks from an operating system with 3 programs : one a week. An editor, I needed an editor to write code. I need an assembler to turn the code into language I could run. And I needed a little kernel kind of overlay call it an operating system. And luckily right at that moment my wife went on a three-week vacation" Ken Thompson
@daga68
@daga68 2 жыл бұрын
I would stamp a T-Shirt with this paragraph anytime !!!
@nishanth6403
@nishanth6403 2 жыл бұрын
Absolute madlad
@wojciechkaczmarek5394
@wojciechkaczmarek5394 Жыл бұрын
we should make a monument of the wife xD
@gsmagesh
@gsmagesh 5 жыл бұрын
Man, its full of goosebumps ... to get to know about how things were born! I mean, the real things like Unix, C, grep, pipes, etc... Very inspiring to see legends sharing the same stage! Missing Dennis Ritchie though!
@yunjiehong4649
@yunjiehong4649 2 жыл бұрын
Missing Dennis.
@SoulSukkur
@SoulSukkur Жыл бұрын
One thing I really love about computer science is that it exploded so recently, we have core founders who's work has touched every part of the modern industry, acting as foundation for much of it, but they're still here and still working.
@raghunc
@raghunc Жыл бұрын
Yes, they literally laid foundations to modern computer science
@1anre
@1anre 2 жыл бұрын
I love how casually Ken Thompson just says he created an editor, an assembler & a kernel in under 3weeks for the UNIX operating system while his wife & child were away on holiday & @ 37:10, he hacked away and created the GREP program overnight, to present it to his boss the next day at work since he needed such a robust SEARCH tool, as if it’s not one of the most well known and most used command line tools even till date in 2021. That amount of humility and candor shown here by him, is astonishing. Meanwhile tiny KZfaqrs that’ve just gotten into Google & Amazon and worked there as SWEs for a few years, will now come on here and be making it seem like they just dropped down from heaven and are above and beyond everyone else in the Tech Space.
@SaHaRaSquad
@SaHaRaSquad 2 жыл бұрын
"he hacked away and created the GREP program overnight" No, he didn't. He literally said he just fixed bugs for an hour or so because the boss asked him for a program that already existed on his harddrive. So he pretended like he wrote it in one night. And to be fair writing a line editor in one week is absolutely doable if you're a good programmer. Still, an absolute genius. I mean he basically invented regular expressions as we know them today.
@vcfederation
@vcfederation 2 ай бұрын
Yes. Ken did some amazing things!
@vcfederation
@vcfederation 2 ай бұрын
He is definitely is a genius who accomplished so much in this area!
@pskocik
@pskocik 4 жыл бұрын
"One week, one week, one week and we had Unix." Damn, I need to speed up work on my software project! :D
@absalomdraconis
@absalomdraconis 4 жыл бұрын
The secret is to start "confined", almost the the point of uselessness. _ALMOST_ to the point of uselessness ;)
@nicolareiman9687
@nicolareiman9687 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget his previous experiences on OS disgn.
@ahmadalwazzan384
@ahmadalwazzan384 3 жыл бұрын
the man was pumping assembly code faster than I write java script.
@ch33rfulness
@ch33rfulness Жыл бұрын
In one week, I barely manage to sketch a partial solution, after having spent 30 hours in useless meetings, where we’ve decided about what and how to decide… In a year, if I ignore the copy/paste/modify, I barely write 1k lines of code, after consulting Google, of course 😂
@alexa.davronov1537
@alexa.davronov1537 4 жыл бұрын
7:55 Getting started 11:00 Bell Labs: In Pursuit of Ken Thompson 17:11 Multics OS 21:13 Invention of Unix 23:40 "Funding Unix", Dennis Ritchie kicks in 29:27 The PDP-11 30:30 Pipes 35:07 Grep command 38:35 Language B 52:53 Moscow Trip Story
@kernelpanick636
@kernelpanick636 3 жыл бұрын
Not all heros wear capes
@somebodyelse9130
@somebodyelse9130 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Replying to boost this comment higher.
@kamilziemian995
@kamilziemian995 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Xrey274
@Xrey274 9 ай бұрын
Isn't it Brian Kernighan?
@MultiPetercool
@MultiPetercool 7 ай бұрын
Does anyone else see the irony of the OS most associated with open source was developed to process patents? 😂
@squallleonhart6747
@squallleonhart6747 4 жыл бұрын
"I was a pretty good programmer"
@syahrulrozi8233
@syahrulrozi8233 3 жыл бұрын
"i was never good at math"
@emincanozcan4839
@emincanozcan4839 3 жыл бұрын
@@syahrulrozi8233 test
@russelveganeucleonps4plays820
@russelveganeucleonps4plays820 2 жыл бұрын
.DT.FTC.V_
@toby2581
@toby2581 2 жыл бұрын
"The Mongols were pretty good at warfare." "Isaac Newton was a pretty good natural philosopher."
@morpheus7422
@morpheus7422 2 жыл бұрын
More like "I just do stuff" 😁
@alexm8468
@alexm8468 4 ай бұрын
I am a native Greek speaker. The first line on his T-shirt says: "I finally understood it!"
@vcfederation
@vcfederation 4 ай бұрын
Wow! Thanks for sharing!
@ArturdeSousaRocha
@ArturdeSousaRocha 2 ай бұрын
I was hoping someone would explain it. Thanks.
@aqk
@aqk Ай бұрын
Hmmm.. Is this modern Greek? Or the traditional? - Ἐν οἴνῳ ἀλήθεια which I have succumbed to tonight....
@LBCreateSpace
@LBCreateSpace 5 күн бұрын
Thank you! I was wondering 😂
@NilesLife
@NilesLife 5 ай бұрын
I love how they got Brian Kernighan to interview him, everything was a perfect set up for Ken to knock out of the park, great interview!
@vcfederation
@vcfederation 5 ай бұрын
Yes. It helped Ken to agree to the talk by having his old friend Brian interview him. Some speakers don't like monologues they prefer "the interview style" of speaking.
@TechnicallyEvan
@TechnicallyEvan 4 ай бұрын
Not much "they" behind it. I alone arranged for Brian and Ken to do this.
@retsub3
@retsub3 8 ай бұрын
Future nerds are gonna be sooo jealous we saw him while he was still a living legend! Just a regular Joe that happened to do great things. Thrilled that he still loves to tell the stories. I get the feeling he's still slightly perplexed why we put him on such a pedestal for just doing what he can't help doing 😊 This sit-down is _solid gold_ ✨
@vcfederation
@vcfederation 8 ай бұрын
So glad that you liked this talk!
@wiilillad
@wiilillad 3 жыл бұрын
For being 77, Ken looks and sounds great. =)
@user-ow5mn6dn7n
@user-ow5mn6dn7n 3 жыл бұрын
These guys are rock stars of computer science and yet they are so humble. I would love to see more interviews with both of them
@goldnutter412
@goldnutter412 4 ай бұрын
Graduated by accident.. 😂🤣
@cybergal99
@cybergal99 4 жыл бұрын
as someone who's made their living with Unix since 1989 and taught Unix at NYU for years .. LOVE THIS!
@1anre
@1anre 2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it humbling to see these guys give it all out for free?
@heavyaccept
@heavyaccept 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Ken Thompson's t-shirt: "ΕΠΙΤΕΛΟΥΣ ΤΟ ΚΑΤΑΛΑΒΑ!", meaning, "Finally, I get it!" or "Finally, I understand it!", and with this beard he looks like Archimedes! Usually, the computer geeks are people with no sense of humor, but in this case, this guy has a plenty of it! Anyway, a true genius, humble and funny guy.
@johnwolves2705
@johnwolves2705 Жыл бұрын
but can you explain the code below it 😂
@shirajsharma8085
@shirajsharma8085 5 жыл бұрын
three gods of Computer Science Dennis,Ken and Brian
@synen
@synen 2 жыл бұрын
Ada Lovelace as well.
@capoditutticapos19
@capoditutticapos19 2 жыл бұрын
@@synen lol
@sauravghosh8713
@sauravghosh8713 5 жыл бұрын
Ken Thompson is by far the ultimate geek.
@karimmanaouil9354
@karimmanaouil9354 5 жыл бұрын
You should have said: The greatest geek that has ever stepped on earth.
@1anre
@1anre 2 жыл бұрын
@@karimmanaouil9354 erm Steve Wozniak?
@gnupph
@gnupph 2 жыл бұрын
@@1anre wozniak’s technical contribution to the computing world is almost nothing compared to these legends
@1anre
@1anre 2 жыл бұрын
@@gnupph I won’t undermine Wozniak’s contribution though. These guys built some very good tech frameworks that we still use in servers and enterprise environment today but Wozniak was no slouch.
@imranariffin2688
@imranariffin2688 4 жыл бұрын
Someone should make a movie out of this unix legend.
@1anre
@1anre 2 жыл бұрын
What would be a fitting title & who should play the roles of Ken Thompson, Brian Kernighan & Dennis Ritchie ?
@knoxduder
@knoxduder Ай бұрын
This wins at viewer comments for the month !
@Blackknight12988
@Blackknight12988 Жыл бұрын
This video is a gem. I hope it never gets taken down or made private. It is something every developer should watch just so they know what it means to be a developer
@vcfederation
@vcfederation Жыл бұрын
Vintage Computer Federation intends to keep this up as long as we can.
@cannaroe1213
@cannaroe1213 4 ай бұрын
Have you considered OnlyFans? I've always wondered what those mainframes would look like with only the fans.
@m4heshd
@m4heshd 3 жыл бұрын
These guys are so humble that they completely avoid being in the trap of success paradox.
@goldnutter412
@goldnutter412 4 ай бұрын
First world privilege is the groupthink norm these days.. if you're alive you probably grew up in a relatively spoilt generation, I know I did.. parents gave us whatever we needed etc, no working in coal mines at age 8 for me
@antoningavrel2808
@antoningavrel2808 4 жыл бұрын
23:11 "And luckily right at that moment my wife went on a 3 weeks vacation to take my one year old (roughly) to visit my in-laws who were in California, this period long, 1 week, 1 week, 1 week... and we had Unix"
@imrank340
@imrank340 Жыл бұрын
These guy truly a father of modern computer technology, in their own right command respect and perseverence, sadly Denis passed away, seeing these duo very satisfying.
@vcfederation
@vcfederation Жыл бұрын
Yes. It is wonderful to have these two together. It's too bad that Denis passed away before we could record them together.
@karimmanaouil9354
@karimmanaouil9354 5 жыл бұрын
Hail and respect to our great masters and lords. They contributed over than 50 years of continuous and generous work for humanity: MULTICS, BCPL, UNIX, C, PLAN9, AWK, GO. How UNIX changed humanity can be compared to how Newton's classical mechanics changed the world or to how Alexander's Fleming Penicillin changed the history of biology and medical treatment.
@rmgnair
@rmgnair 2 жыл бұрын
Good comparison
@gli7utubeo
@gli7utubeo Жыл бұрын
Whatever happened to PLAN9 ? It was the buzz for a while in Murray Hill.
@bluegtturbo
@bluegtturbo 4 жыл бұрын
It occurred to me watching this that there Ken seems to be cut from the same cloth as Steve Wozniak. Both men unambitious and seem to have a 'hippy' attitude, but extremely successful because they love what they do!
@hunternegron336
@hunternegron336 3 жыл бұрын
Seems almost paradoxical, but it's true :)
@wattage
@wattage 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much for recording this interview in such high quality and for sharing it with us. I love hearing about Unix history and I have desperately been wanting to watch a proper interview with Ken Thompson. And to have this one given by his friend and colleague Brian Kernighan, in a comfortable setting surrounded by fellow geeks, was absolute magic. I could have listened to hours more. The story about Doug McIlroy made my jaw drop. Such fascinating gentlemen and such unparalleled intelligence. Really enjoyed it!
@1anre
@1anre 2 жыл бұрын
Are you a huge Linux proponent?
@wattage
@wattage 2 жыл бұрын
@@1anre Yes, Linux is great. I find the subject of operating systems really interesting. And hearing stories about Unix' origins directly from the guys who created it (like we have here in this video), now that's just fantastic!
@bharathkarkera3223
@bharathkarkera3223 2 жыл бұрын
Man agree to everything you told.. Unix is the best
@panographic
@panographic 5 ай бұрын
Ken Thompson is a national treasure
@vcfederation
@vcfederation 5 ай бұрын
A very special guy!
@flippert0
@flippert0 4 ай бұрын
Besides UNIX itself, pipes are probably the greatest general invention that came out of the UNIX development. The whole talk is amazing.
@vcfederation
@vcfederation 4 ай бұрын
We are so glad that you liked it!
@tanishshrivastava2442
@tanishshrivastava2442 4 жыл бұрын
I really wanted Dennis to live longer, so I could watch him somewhere like this. Alas, we rarely get what we want.
@1anre
@1anre 2 жыл бұрын
Damn. Didn’t know he’s passed. What are your top inventions from him?
@tanishshrivastava2442
@tanishshrivastava2442 2 жыл бұрын
@@1anre Just one. c programming language, which serves as a foundation of various modern software to this day.
@felipevaldes9168
@felipevaldes9168 5 жыл бұрын
08:20 is when the interview start
@proshadu606
@proshadu606 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you frind
@erdi.demiroz
@erdi.demiroz 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend
@tanveerhasan2382
@tanveerhasan2382 4 жыл бұрын
bless your heart
@alexa.davronov1537
@alexa.davronov1537 4 жыл бұрын
1:03:50 is where it sadly ends.
@marciomaiajr
@marciomaiajr 5 жыл бұрын
This is gold! I wish they had made the interview when Dennis Ritchie was still alive. Thanks so much for uploading it.
@tomahzo
@tomahzo 2 жыл бұрын
True, although there are some decent videos on YT from the Bell Labs vault where Dennis Richie and Ken Thompson and others are talking about these things. Here's one example: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNWGhLeBx6qahY0.html . But, yeah, a fireside chat like this with Dennis Richie would've been great :).
@giorgiogrisetti4277
@giorgiogrisetti4277 2 жыл бұрын
I teach operating systems. My students have issues in closing their jaw when I reveal that some marketing person they worship did not know what program is. Yet they don't know who Dennis, Ken and Brian are. As a start , I subministered them this video. A healthy mixture of humbleness, competence and honesty. I hope this spirit will come back someday.
@vcfederation
@vcfederation Жыл бұрын
It is hard to replicated the spirit of what was done in the "vintage computer" days.
@Elite7555
@Elite7555 5 жыл бұрын
Ken seems to be full of stories and I love it. Hoping to hear more of them.
@DominicRichens
@DominicRichens 3 ай бұрын
I remember at 19 seeing pipes and thinking it was brilliant. Probably used them almost weekly in the last 30 years, searching and reformatting output.
@vcfederation
@vcfederation 3 ай бұрын
Yes. A great invention!
@bolnyaluo4601
@bolnyaluo4601 3 жыл бұрын
It is really inspiring to sit at the feet of these grand elders and be bathed in their experience. Its like being in a dream. Ritchie, Thompson, Kernighan.... are the World's apex of computer programming.
@germansnowman
@germansnowman 2 жыл бұрын
Oral history interviews like this one are pure gold. Thanks for preserving history for us!
@vcfederation
@vcfederation Жыл бұрын
That is part of our mission to preserve the history of vintage computers. We are glad to record this for posterity.
@zevnikov
@zevnikov 4 жыл бұрын
Living history. Men behind all our phones, tablets, all our moden Life. A true wizzard of the time. Hats off.
@adulate
@adulate 28 күн бұрын
insane achievement. that level of productivity is only attained when you're attuned to the subject at a soul level.
@vcfederation
@vcfederation 28 күн бұрын
It's rare genius like this that amazes us!
@RideGasGas
@RideGasGas 5 жыл бұрын
Great interview, thanks for arranging it, recording, and posting.
@miyalys
@miyalys 4 жыл бұрын
34:24: "You type one two + and it would say 'four'. [..] I was never good at math" Honestly this is kinda nice to hear, you can be hugely successful and make gigantic contributions to computer science without being that good at math. I've felt for a long time, that logic is much more important in many CS areas.
@alexa.davronov1537
@alexa.davronov1537 4 жыл бұрын
You don't have to be good at math until you are trying to solve very specific problem benefiting you performance.
@AlexanderTeterkin
@AlexanderTeterkin 3 жыл бұрын
I think It was a joke. One does not simply program in Assembler.
@jaredteaches894
@jaredteaches894 2 жыл бұрын
He had a deep understanding of multivariable calculus and physics. When he says he’s not good, it’s more like, I’m not that good when compared to my math PhD peers.
@mrbananaman8032
@mrbananaman8032 2 жыл бұрын
Math is probably a "requirement" for CS more for its logic aspects. The only way Americans learn about traditional logic without a college course that focuses on it is during math class when you learn about things like the associative property and similar. If A is B and B is C, then A is C. It's a virtual skill somewhat similar to spatial reasoning. Now, it would be unfair to say some very advanced math isn't required, especially when it comes to 3d graphics and simulations. Anything that attempts to mimick reality or break through it.
@nieczerwony
@nieczerwony Жыл бұрын
This men did electrical engineering so don't think he was never good at math. 😅
@brianrhg
@brianrhg 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for recording this.
@QED2008
@QED2008 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting this out. So good.
@bariswheel
@bariswheel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and posting this, loved it
@ClintPachl
@ClintPachl 5 жыл бұрын
Wish this was 10 more hours.
@anthonybenjamin2040
@anthonybenjamin2040 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! Thank you for uploading this video!
@zerklang
@zerklang 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting!
@tsconn23
@tsconn23 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is great! I'd never heard of this conference before but I have now!
@youreale
@youreale 9 ай бұрын
Two legends. Thank you VCF for preserving this.
@vcfederation
@vcfederation 9 ай бұрын
You are very welcome! We are glad that you enjoy it!
@TheZindarod
@TheZindarod 5 жыл бұрын
I could have listened to this interview for hours.
@benjaminscherrey1124
@benjaminscherrey1124 5 жыл бұрын
Great talk! Two of my favorite people.
@FilipBekic01
@FilipBekic01 4 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite interview on KZfaq so far.
@aceflamez00
@aceflamez00 5 жыл бұрын
Holy crap a Ken interview, I've been waiting so long
@seandavidniemann4563
@seandavidniemann4563 3 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@erajoj
@erajoj 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Loved every second.
@lucasb3h3m0th
@lucasb3h3m0th 4 жыл бұрын
So much love and respect for these men!
@AliMirjamali
@AliMirjamali 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the video. I am grateful for being able to listen to these guys.
@ardalanahanchi3977
@ardalanahanchi3977 5 жыл бұрын
This interview is amazing! These guys are absolute legends in the computing world.
@kanduriveeresh9568
@kanduriveeresh9568 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best interview
@arabzadeh
@arabzadeh 3 жыл бұрын
I was amazing watching legends like them talk about their past. Thank you very much for sharing the video with us.
@lennyedwards62
@lennyedwards62 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic storyteller and an absolute legend. Thanks. This was a great watch. Best wishes
@alexa.davronov1537
@alexa.davronov1537 4 жыл бұрын
I can listen to both of them like... forever.
@3145mimosa
@3145mimosa 4 жыл бұрын
I like every single moment of this interview - Ken Thompson is so inspiring!
@Velo1010
@Velo1010 4 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable video with historical significance. Thanks for sharing.
@dogriffiths
@dogriffiths 5 жыл бұрын
I could listen to these men all week
@homtom2
@homtom2 4 жыл бұрын
I could listen to Ken talk for hours
@phoenixrising164
@phoenixrising164 2 жыл бұрын
"Grep moved from my directory to the bin" thats like genesis " God said let there be light ... and there was light " lol
@argonwheatbelly637
@argonwheatbelly637 5 жыл бұрын
Always a great storyteller. It's been decades since I've seen him, and Dennis, and Lorne... Great memories!
@rio-kt7ut
@rio-kt7ut Ай бұрын
i'm too obsessed with the history of unix, getting excited/frustrated when little things are skipped over. The name for grep comes from the ed commands, g/re/p (global / regular expression search / and print). So great relaxing to Ken Thompson and bwk talk about this history, could sit and listen for hours
@vcfederation
@vcfederation Ай бұрын
So true! We could listen to him for hours!
@asifchoudhuryca
@asifchoudhuryca Жыл бұрын
What an amazing 1 hour spent in the company of one of the brightest minds of the Computer industry: Ken T. , the creator of the UNIX with his loooong-time collaborator, Brian K.
@vcfederation
@vcfederation Жыл бұрын
They have some fantastic stories. It was a privilege to have them come to our show. We are glad that you liked this video so much and your support for our organization. Please spread the word!
@juanok2775
@juanok2775 5 жыл бұрын
This is so good!! Thanks
@patux
@patux 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing to see and hear these legends together again.
@EricsEdgeVideos
@EricsEdgeVideos Жыл бұрын
Three years later and it still holds up!
@vcfederation
@vcfederation Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@soundofmusic94
@soundofmusic94 9 ай бұрын
this is what internet is for... what legends you had here.. thanks for sharing
@vcfederation
@vcfederation 9 ай бұрын
Such awesome legends!
@oliveryang177
@oliveryang177 5 жыл бұрын
I loved every minute of it
@chemaguerra1635
@chemaguerra1635 2 жыл бұрын
Considering how hugely influential they've been, it is amazing to see how down to earth and humble they are.
@tomahzo
@tomahzo 2 жыл бұрын
Their focus is on the right thing and they are motivated by the right goals. Just the love of this tech and what it can accomplish.
@morpheus7422
@morpheus7422 2 жыл бұрын
You can't succeed in software if you decide to be proud
@vcfederation
@vcfederation 2 ай бұрын
So true!
@vcfederation
@vcfederation 2 ай бұрын
We agree!
@vcfederation
@vcfederation 2 ай бұрын
Yes. Ego gets in the way.
@commandershepard1944
@commandershepard1944 4 жыл бұрын
We need more Ken Thompson
@nazavode
@nazavode 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this piece of history of computing. I'm so glad the foundations of what we use today were laid out by these brilliant minds striving for elegance and simplicity.
@MuhammadFHasan
@MuhammadFHasan 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic interview, those guys at Bell Labs are geniuses.
@octoberskye1049
@octoberskye1049 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, LW! This is phenomenal! ☺🐯
@vcfederation
@vcfederation 5 жыл бұрын
LW?
@octoberskye1049
@octoberskye1049 5 жыл бұрын
@@vcfederation Thoughtfully forwarded to me (J.Skye Smith) by Lauren Weinstein. 🐯
@trichomaxxx
@trichomaxxx 2 ай бұрын
I could've listened for longer, great conversation!
@vcfederation
@vcfederation 2 ай бұрын
Yes! Such interesting an conversation!
@CommodoreAmiga
@CommodoreAmiga 2 жыл бұрын
I could sit and listen for hours!
@vcfederation
@vcfederation Жыл бұрын
Yes. I agree!
@mitchelvalentino1569
@mitchelvalentino1569 5 жыл бұрын
Truly incredible. Thank you very much for uploading this video.
@kevinforth7618
@kevinforth7618 Жыл бұрын
This was fantastic, and brought back a lot of memories from the 1970s. Thanks so much for posting this.
@vcfederation
@vcfederation Жыл бұрын
You are very welcome. This is our most popular video. Very rare opportunity to hear his story.
@nathanhenry2747
@nathanhenry2747 4 жыл бұрын
kind of a shame that the talk couldn't go longer. I very much enjoyed it though and I hope that Ken Thompson can come back at a later festival.
@werewolf_13
@werewolf_13 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful people. Hope in my life, I will be able to contribute to the community as they did.
@MultiPetercool
@MultiPetercool 7 ай бұрын
LOVE the story of “Belle” the chess playing computer.
@vcfederation
@vcfederation 7 ай бұрын
That's a great story!
@User36282
@User36282 3 жыл бұрын
Wow I could listen to their stories for ever! Such interesting stuff happened that we've never heard about haha.
@euclideszoto997
@euclideszoto997 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. The memories. Didnt know this was here.
@raym6415
@raym6415 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing! I really enjoyed it 💕💕
@vcfederation
@vcfederation 5 ай бұрын
I'm so glad that you enjoyed it!
@ryanarborist
@ryanarborist 3 жыл бұрын
I saw this in person. It was standing room only by the time I got there. I remember Ken at one point saying 34:35 "I was never good at math." I'd been going to VCF East for a few years at this point, I'm sad I missed it in 2020. One guy at VCF East has an Altair 8800 and AM radio that plays Daisy picking up the CPU cycles.
@ndundu3338
@ndundu3338 2 жыл бұрын
No word, just good to see these two legends stay healthy
@vcfederation
@vcfederation Жыл бұрын
Yes. We were glad that they were able to come and talk about their time working on UNIX.
@TheGagi82
@TheGagi82 3 жыл бұрын
The greatest people are the humbler ones
@tjoleary8738
@tjoleary8738 Жыл бұрын
Amazing...I could listen to Ken's stories all day long!
@vcfederation
@vcfederation Жыл бұрын
He had a lot of entertaining stories about all sorts of topics!
@smcracraft
@smcracraft 5 жыл бұрын
Sat in Ken's office at Google one Sunday when I started at Apple under Jobs. It was a fun visit. Been doing Unix since v6 and receiving Ken's tapes at Stanford Research Institute for my machines plus all the chess tests we did on the phone for Belle. Also got a nice kudo from dmr regarding a C program I wrote. A fond memory. The above interview is worthy. Also chatted with Brian about his recent book on Golang.... never chatted with Doug M. Pipes are my favorite feature to this day. I was lucky because I had access to all the OS and apps source code of v6. Spent a lot of time pouring through that code. Cool interview VCF!!!
@andrewsharpe2587
@andrewsharpe2587 5 жыл бұрын
Rather a lot of name-dropping, but good for you, and I'm glad you were able to work with these folks
@g4mbt
@g4mbt 4 ай бұрын
We need a Bell Labs movie. So much came out of there that withstood the test of time and take it for granted today.
@vcfederation
@vcfederation 4 ай бұрын
A movie or a documentary that goes over the entire history, discoveries and people involved with so many innovative and breakthrough technologies.
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