Hmm maybe, but Lisp systems seem more advanced (although yes at this time LISP was very hard to implement in hardware).

Yes, along with their invention of the transistor

@Han Boetes they were n r corporate ppl

I don't know, transistors are probably also high on the list

no, no, stereo sound is definitely the most important one lol

More like OMG as he’s one my my tech gods. And you see Leonard Aho briefly who inspired me to become well-learned, though likely not an expert, in language design and implementation (c.f. Aho & Ullman’s ‘dragon’ book, who’s name escapes me at the moment). These folks indeed seeded the tech world with ideas that persist today.

Heck yeah! His explanation of a pipeline is the best I've ever heard

That's because, back then, programmers weren't expected to act like mature adults on camera.

I'm watching this for a course on C programming and Computer history. But if this vid has truly taught me anything, its that being a kid in the 90's meant that we missed out on what truly well educated video explanations were like. None of that distracting cartoony-hip-cool-nonesense. I was actually inspired by this.

For me this video provides an invaluable insight into ground assumptions and motivations of building Unix operating system. 🎉

Victor Vyssotsky has a strong resemblance to Carl Sagan, in both mannerism and clothing style... but this video was recorded just a few years after Sagan's series "Cosmos" was very popular on TV, and they were both from Northeast USA, and similar age. (about 3yrs apart) As a side note: Victor's father Alexander had a career in astronomy (30yrs before Sagan) first near Moscow, then moving to USA in 1923, and became vice president of the American Astronomical society.

@mauroandreolini5278 and @jsteins - Interesting info.

same for the german Duden :D

By dictionary they dont mean a Oxford dictionary its more of a list of words

video99.co.uk - It isn’t in my The New Shorter Oxford (1993). That the name appears in some general dictionaries is an indication of the loose standards of today’s dictionary editors rather than the lasting influence of Unix. Its influence may be lasting, but I still think it belongs only in specialized reference books. There are countless proper names of influential things which could be put in general dictionaries if you wanted to get into that practice.

The Book of Unix. Understanding the genisis of Unix. Realize it's the source and origin of Linux, Android and iOS. Bell Labs father, Alexander Graham Bell.

@@GH-oi2jf Yeah, but proper names becoming terms of art and then general usage words is a fairly standard migration. CF Heroin, Aspirin, Hoover etc. UNIX is a trademark of the OpenGroup but "Unix" is now commonly a generic term for a family of operating systems.

Yeah I feel the same. I'm now a Admin mainly for Linux systems and I love reading these old papers, books etc about this time at Bell Labs or in general. It's fascinating to read, why these programs were designed like this, about the short memory space, the thinking behind it and how these applications worked.. Its so far away for me because I was born in 1987. Its really interesting to read about it or watch these videos

Yes, because computers and software back than were a lot simpler in design plus it was new technology that didn’t required narrow field of expertise. Similarly like mechanics 70 years ago could basically rebuild or redesign a car and it is not so easy these days become the technology has evolved so much compared to the old days.

Forty years ago? More like sixty given that AT&T UNIX Version I was worked on beginning in 1963, if I have my facts right. Six decades. But if you had typed your comment in twenty years ago, you’d certainly be correct in terms of time frames. But what is also amazing is how LITTLE things have advanced since the powerful explosion of ideas of the 1960s and 1970s. Ritchie, Thompson, Aho are certainly gods of mine from the AT&T era of the early sixties. But another god of mine, having to do with GUI design, is Brett Victor who nearly a decade ago presented what is for me a seminal lecture, “The Future of Programming” (presented to Dropbox’s DBX conference on July 9, 2013, according to the video description). Victor comes out dressed in impeccable early 1960 geek coiture… grey slacks, white shirt, pocket protector loaded with pens and wireless transmitter for his mic. He comically pretends to be speaking IN that era, citing “now that there are thousands of computers in existence” for ever, and initially focusing on the not-so-smooth transition from bit flipping in matching code (which I used to do in 1980 at MIT on an old core-based computer half-populated with 32K of hand-woven core memory and TTL no more complicated than the bitsliced 4-bit ALU of the time). He then goes on to the somewhat futuristic notion of a graphic interface, and so on. His key premise, and what fascinates me about this video, is how again and again revolutionary advances in software have NOT occurred, perhaps because of the inherent tendencies for humans to fall into increasingly well-worn grooves: What I used for the last project is what I should be using now. Python hasn’t radically changed since its inception, for example - we’ve just populated the space of supporting code libraries while not expanding what Python does in the first place. In any case, I’m working on a little project which may address these issues. The combination of what Thompson and Ritchie were talking about in 1963 as key: ease of use, the ability to be used and understand by folks working in disparate domains with perhaps little or no technical training… coupled with quite a bit of inspiration from Brett Victor’s talk… and another about not coding dead fish worth checking out… these ideas are driving my project now transitioning from a research phase now rapidly into design and development. At one time I had a playlist linking these two talks by Brett Victor, but the playlist appears to have evaporated on its own, so here are the individual links. He addresses the issue of typical animations (especially those produced by programmers) being somehow dead and artificial as opposed to the more fluid animations of professional animators… but both of these pale compared to virtual fish interacting in realtime to stimuli). Quite brilliant. Victor is best known as being one of the contributed to the initial merging of macOS and iOS in macOS Lion 10.7. And that was the most horrid version of macOS in my opinion, not just for the transitional GUI which was later polished by Mountain Lion 10.8 and what followed. But the fault likely didn’t lie with Victor than the development culture at Apple in that time. 1of2: “Brett Victor The Future of Computing” 2of2: “Brett Victor - Stop Drawing Dead Fish”

I don't know about more knowledge… They had a different set of tools their knowledge was different. I'm sure that it would be very difficult for them to sit down and pick up your tools just as it would be very difficult for you to sit down and pick up theirs.

@@fiveminutezen I disagree. I think it would be just the opposite. They would love our modern tools. It would take some adjusting but they would excel with our modern frameworks. Take one of us and throw us back to building literally everything from scratch using theories with no stackoverflow? We would flounder for a very long time before adjusting.

I did not know of Lorinda Cherry so thank you for enlightening me. This video is really fascinating.

That was indeed the highlighted and most-viewed moment in the video. I appreciated the humor of taking not one sip of coffee, but several.

What a gangsta!

Yeah, but we all know it's true. We're all guilty of it. _"Why should I write exhaustive documentation about this thing, I know _*_exactly_*_ how it works"_

@@2thinkcritically exactly

@@2thinkcritically _returning to the code you wrote earlier the same day_ "What on Earth is this nonsense?"

Documentation is never necessary. Good code explains itself.

@@amycrunch3812 you must be saying that the majority of code is not good.

Overshadowed by Steve Jobs' death

@@thekidfromiowa Steve Jobs may not have if he didn't take fake woo woo medicine

Got a technology medal, should have got a Nobel.

There’s more than one legend in this video. Impressive.

“So help me Codd”. Sorry- network database veteran here 😂

I remember we were learning C in one of my college courses. I thought their textbook was garbage and hard to understand so I found out about K&R C. My God, it was one of the easiest, most simplified books I've ever read on a complicated subject. I started doing better in the course once I had that book!

@@justinedse3314K&R C is a masterpiece. Should be required reading for every software engineer and technical writer

Ah, so,Dennis was responsible for 'social media' :)

"fellowship" says it all, great words from a great and humble man, may we still strive for such a thing.

It was everywhere like that in the early days of computers. Once computers became commonplace that era unfortunately ended.

Oz jak, because Dennis was a "computer nerd", and Steve was a businessman. Guess who capitalistic society honors more?

No more fellowship as nobody is truly selfless anymore. Wisdoms are meant to be shared.

Back in 1985 my CDC diskpack drives stored an amazing 500 MB and were slowly being displaced by slightly more compact Ampex 500 MB Winchester drives. Don‘t get me started on loading the OS using the Kennedy reel to reel tape drives! 😁

link ?

@@runninggames771 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLqPfZmpyJOlqmQ.html at 7:11.

Don't be too harsh on yourself, or them!

Linux and UNIX are different. Linux is the Kernel used in Richard Stallman's GNU project.

Monsieur Africain GNU is a set of utilities that runs on top of Linux, just as other applications do.

@cyanghost109 true

@@MalamIbnMalam No, that's incorrect. Richard Stallman's GNU project never envisioned Linux to be its kernel, they have a different kernel called Hurd. People that uses Linux ported GNU project's userland applications into Linux so they don't have to write their own. As history shows tough, Hurd never goes anywhere and now Linux becomes the de facto best replacement of the GNU kernel. But Linux is not a GNU project.

+Nyana11 please re-evaluate your priorities

Exactly! The way she grabs the mug is a true action of orgasm! Hahahahahahaahahaha

Fredrik Jonsson Is it just me or does she look like Amy from the Big Bang Theory?

@gespilk technically that is doable, that is, they can make a program that lets you play around with stuff like that. However no one else needs that.

@gespilk you should look into wolfram language might be similart to what you want

Presumably you have the BSTJ double issue?

Died around the same time as Steve Jobs and got a fraction of the hero-worship and praise

@@mahtism I agree.

its just the reflect of our current society :D

*Marketing*

Sad indeed. Its because a sick society honours the dollar above all else.

But Steve got us NeXT UNIX on the Mac!

Cuz steve was a chad

GNU's not UNIX.

No. It was probably Bourne Shell - aka 'sh.' It might possibly have been Korn Shell, created by David Korn.

@@kreuner11 Yeah, that's not as convenient when working on a small terminal like that. The biggest annoyances I've noticed going back to very old Unix systems is the lack of tab completion, history and ability to edit the line you're currently writing (backspace usually works if you configure it properly, but rarely navigation). Other than that the shells provide the basic functionality you expect and would be fine to use even today, although with an abundance of powerful hardware why not use bash, zsh, fish or something else with a lot of convenience features.

@gespilk No, it is a programmed voice. SH used an analog chip.

the talking calc was extremely impressive for its era

The second sip is what really drove it home for me that she was stuntin'.

Also her flex with the system, then demonstrative drinking coffee and waiting was so fun too. :D

Yeah cheers man

Their impact goes beyond IT, more like general computing as a whole.

Gabriel G Was not that Brian (not Dennis)? But your point stands. How could they have known . . .just look at what Unix and its spiritual-if-not-actual progeny have brought the world. The transistor maybe was more important overall, but I believe Unix is not that far behind in importance.

Unix is arguably better known now than "eunuchs".

Finally found someone talking about it in the comments...I was gonna comment about the same thing!

I do not use actual Unix anymore... Xenix entered my life along with Linux... I use Linux every single day though... I am using it right now on multiple fronts. This is a Linux household.

Directly derived from Unix. And the language used to build Linux also came from these guys - C. Even though Linux was written from scratch, it is essentially an exact port of Unix with relatively little deviation.

@@ChadMello Linux wasn't a port of Unix, it's a reimplementation/clone. And while it inherits many ideas from Unix, it deviates quite a lot in many important points

If you use MacOSX then yes you do!

Disagree. Aerospace engineering basics haven‘t evolved since the fifties, everything we see happening in IT and aerospace is evolution, not revolution based on leveraging improved semiconductors/materials…

Actually other companies and government have decided to break into parts AT&T along with Bell Labs as they were afraid how big might they get. Politicians are the one who slowed down the Unix.

No, that's absolutely untrue. In 1984, AT&T Information Systems created something called The Unix PC. Their problem was that they were too far ahead of where the technology was, and it suffered from poor performance and high cost. This was Unix System V based machine. I remember them well. You can see more here: toastytech.com/guis/unixpc.html

Which company would you say has that many brilliant tech inventors today?

@@nathanjustus6659 Wow never knew about this Personal UNIX machine until now.

@Kent Teffeteller Just run the terminal in Mac OS, and most Unix commands work just fine. I always go this route when I need to debug my wife's Mac problems :)

@gespilk no

I wonder wasn't that the reason of falling the USSR?

@@ValAi178 The eastern block had Unix versions. In particular east germany had its own clones of UNIX SysV.

Would you believe BWK considers himself a dinosaur?

...and the "a" in awk. (Brian Kernighan is the "k". Peter Weinberger, the "w", is cast as Sir Not-Appearing-In-This-Film.) If you dig a bit, everybody who spent time talking in this film is a giant in their field. It's just that "their field" might not always be something casual computer users (or even hard-core types busy doing something else) have much contact with.