Yes I spent all day making this :)

The only downside to Formless is that you'll look like a mad man with a really large grin

I would love it if Tiger Niko was still alive and he shows up sometime during the Tiger Vessel vs Ohma fight

Tiger Niko: Alright kids, for my next trick I'm gonna pull out 2 more incredibly op fighting styles

You know if the kure family get they hands on the Niko style that’s gonna be something to forward too.

Very good arguments for both Niko Style and Formless. However, if we compare Ohma's Niko Style and Kanoh's fusion of Formless and Martial Arts we gotta remember that Martial Arts is pretty much an infinite warehouse of almost every martial art out there from grappling and MMA to perfect foresight + evolution. Kanoh had 160+ official Kengan matches and anyone without proportional experience will get fucked including Ohma. Also Kanoh's literally twice Ohma's size so the reach gap will limit Demonsbane to only long range counters which Kanoh will know and gladly exploit.

Formless looks like waters kata maxed out

I got the feeling that Formless is a soft style and Niko Style is a combination of hard and soft lol.

I think tokita niko (ohmas master) developed the base niko style and so did ohma. This style that was developed i think is stronger than formless. I also think formless is just a very complex use of the water kata, just like the grapples of the water kata is unconventional and places emphasis on flexibility and fluidity of motion. Also the move water mirror which he used on his fight with cosmo, says, "there is no specific form for Water Mirror it allows the user to be flexible and change the way they use it in a fight situation". from this i can guess tiger niko used the water kata as a base for the formless and just expanded on that.

The formless style is meant to counter pretty much every martial arts techniques, with that being said, how do you counter a demonsbane?

The formless should be the strongest. Its a martial art without form, like water, it finds a way through. But it's not the martial art but the martial artist.

I can't wait to see the improvements to the Niko style with Kure techniques Ohma learned in his two years

A formless user seems to be made of water. Formless seems to rely on extreme muscle relaxation and flexibility. Think shaori for defense, and cockroach dash for offense, but on a way smaller scale. Also it has no fixed form, the body just goes for whatever is the most effective KINDA like ultra instinct, but on a waaaaaay smaller scale. That's how I see formless.

The Neko style is coolest of the Two, But the Formless style is just more versatile and Fun!

Formless alone is considered incomplete even in the verse itself. Niko is literally king fu magic.

Excellent video and A+ job on this aesthetically pleasing thumbnail, you put some thoughts and work into these and it shows

Aweeeeeesome video! Great analysis

I have a theory why tiger niko survived and didn't learn the demonsbane. In the trial instead of learning demonsbane he probably learned formless seeing as how the requirements to learn the style are the same as demonsbane.

I just noticed that the robe that tigers vessel is wearing is the same as the other nikos.perhaps he is student of gaoh.

Niko style is sage mode with plot armour style 👍🏻

Goddammit it's not about the style it's about the user.....

That’s a good argument but a better question... Which is better formless + martial arts vs niko style

The design of tiger Niko looks so menacing

Honestly the biggest shock in this video is the possibility that Tiger Niko could be alive.

In my opinion Formless = freestyle fighting , you’re versed in every fighting scenario Niko Style = You have a ace in the hole for EVERY situation.

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I love both the Formless and the Niko Style. I'm just excited to see what will be the Tiger Vessel's fighting style.

Niko style that ohma has mastered is above any formless

Man I hope this will be done soon because I'm excited to watch it 🙂

Niko style with Kure techniques> all

What if... Ohma's Niko Style *PLUS* Lu Tian's Formless?? 🤯🤯🤯

The formless style is a style with no specific form. Therefore it's hard to read//predict the users movement's. The water like effect is them using the water kata. It's a lot like how ohma goes limp to launch demons bane. Makes sense that tiger niko narrowed technique from the niko style to create formless.

Going to watch the video later but first thoughts is that’s a hard one . Both are extremely versatile and hax styles. Tho agito did have to add martial arts to his repertoire become of the limitations formless had . While ohma is probably on agito level with just niko style alone. So base off that I would say niko style >

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My take on both is the Niko style is best preformed when a practitioner puts use to all the forms with seamless transition, none of them have done that yet Omha is the closest. The others including Other Niko perfected the Kata's they were best at then Other Niko leveled it it up to Formless ( my guess water kata) at its perfected limit. Ryuki appears to have his own set ups its not that boxed in to a set of Katas. The developer Ryuki's Grandfather does what works best with any part of his body.

Hear me out. Give formless style the basic concepts of the niko style (indestructible, weeping willow, bone binding, earth shrinking, water mirror, and demonsbane, aka the techniques that already dont have a set form and can be used whenever). Adding these to formless would make it OP, so just combine the styles

Formless = super duper water kata

Ok I'll explain the formless style since you didn't know. It's a style that uses some moves to beat your opponent. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.

I dont know if you've ever watched boxing but there was a boxer named ''Smoking'' Joe Frazier. He usually dodged the opponents attacks but always pressuring them and being on the attack while simultaneously bobbing and weaving using eradic head movements. Those movements would also contribute to very strong and unpredictable attacks mid to close range. I think the formless style is something like that but in a MMA setting. The water effect is supposed to represent how it feels for the opponent to throw a strike and then suddenly miss at the last possible second. Like fighting water or air.

Honestly the formless style seems to fall short of most of the overpowered abilities of the Niko style especially the redirection style. But it doesn't seem like it would be weaker than the Niko style, not just because aghito uses it. But because the Niko style seems rigid in comparison. Even the demon's Bane an incredibly powerful technique is a counter which requires mastery of timing prediction redirection and body softening, the best thing for that is the unpredictability of the formless style.

I’m wondering when we’re going to the inside within the story

This background music is awesome but I cant find those themes

I love the videos Mysterious Weeb But I really want to read all this myself, where can I find the Kengan manga?

Gotta say Niko Style because the user always has options even when heavily injured, while unfortunately formless once the timing is figured out a good solid hit usually forces the style to crumble.

I'm a bit late to this video but here is my thoughts. The Niko style is a blend of techniques to allow you to adapt to any fighting opponent, while utilizing or sticking to your strengths. Example Ohma is pretty strong with the Adamantine Kata. I am willing to bet that Tiger niko's mastery of the Niko style is a mastery of the water kata. I believe that he figured out a way or just mastered the water kata to such a high level that he figured out how to apply the water kata to himself, thus creating formless. So in short look at formless as being a master of the water kata of the Niko style. When ever we see the Tiger Niko get into a scrap on screen, if he pulls out the niko style I bet you he uses the water kata to a high level. After all look at how fei attacked Waka. He used primarily the water kata. And look at the Lu tian and Agito fight. A lot of the panels were drawn as if those two were water. Probably foreshadowing or paying respect to the fact that formless is heavily based off of the water kata of the Niko style.

Such mysteries

Formless would be like water. Imagine trying to choke water it would slip out of your choke imagine trying to strike water it would simply bend around your fist and then return to its former state.

Well in my opinion Formless is better in destructive sense as using that it is just focusing on whoever is in front of you While Niko style can be used as self defense as the more the technique are their the harder to master them and In way of kuroki using the right technique at right time is martial arts But formless has no set technique

Make an updated vid on this. That'll be great.

y si lolong es hijo del tigre niko? they are too similar

Formless is a stance not a complete style, so it'd be more relevant comparing it to just the Advance, not the whole Niko style.

Niko is better. Niko can even be used in real life to some extent

Personally speaking, i'd say formless is better than niko because of it's ability to adapt... and adaptation always leads to victory unless, your opponent is Beard, then there would be no guarantee

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Formless + martial arts (caked up Kanoh) = ultimate fighting combo

So Kiryu still thinks ohma is dead(so I’m assuming) so if ryuki doesn’t go back to kengan and he goes with kiryu. Will the fallen beast revert or will he not take it too serious? But what if he comes back with ryuki and sees ohma? I wonder what will happen

Irl formless:”beat up maybe” Formless:”overpowered”

Do you think Koga will get a secret Technique of his own?

I think the Formless well be the Tiger Niko's counter to Demon's bane. Like what is Formless good at? Not takinging a direct hit. Demon's bane is by its core a counter attack. You can beat counter attack by not taking the hit. So a counter to a counter. Also T.Niko says that the Niko style has reached a dead end and hes right. If D.Bane is is ultimate technique then where does it go from there? There is nothing else to learn and relys on the fighters abilities from there. Now what increases a fighters abilities? The Advance. So boom....T.Niko's goal was to not only have a counter to the D.Bane of the Niko style but to also have a way to advance the abilities of the Niko user and a pure formless user. T.Niko could end up being the person who layed the groundwork to the advancement of a style that has reached it's dead end in the Niko style.

I don’t know how far Ohma has come along but I still have a strong feeling in my gut the fang has the upper hand. Witch would mean the Formless is superior. I’m starting to think the Ohma we know is the a clone of the tiger vessel.

what happened to those grando fight vids

100K subs?? Brother I love your channel and will always support you but that’s far fetched.

2 hours later that one person that hits the thumbs down

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For me, even if Tiger Niko survived, he still failed in gaining possession of Ohma and Setsunas master killing Ohmas Niko afterwards.

Formless reminds me of Yi Quan. Technically it's a kung run without forms

I prefer the openness and unorthodox style of formless you have to be creative and one step ahead.

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I dont think Tiger Niko trained the Tigers Vessel. I think the Tigers Vessel is one of the surviving Nikos and judging by how he speaks maybe he caused the massacre at the forest.

In the manga agitos Formless was compared to akido and systema. Idk how that's relevant just letting y'all know

formless is a style that doesn't go by the book. it can't be predicted, because there is no basis that it is based off. it's all based off in the moment, quickly deciding your next move, and constantly rechoosing another move on the spot instead of having a plan of how you're going to fight. it's literally an on the spot freestyle, reacting as best as you can to the situation and quickly choosing any potential move, instead of sticking to 1 form. That's how I think it is

don't even need a video niko said he wasn't lying and that niko style is the best their is

Idk why any comment I make on here I make it while watching the vid...sorry 😂 and is it just me or was ohma not surpised/impressed by the use of formless ?🤔

I have no idea, anyone else?

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feel like ohmas style and how he is unpredictable he is with each kata is better than kanohs formless plusing that ohma has advance and demons bane

So the formless is just another name for Mixed Martial Arts

Didn't that tribal fighter from purgatory that Julius fought know some of the niko style i feel like I remember him knowing that for some reason maybe im wrong

But wouldn't that put omah's niko above even kanoh. I mean he killed the tiger niko who should have been able to use advance which lu tien probably didn't know about while he was already injured and still managed to put up a good fight against kiryu's Master. Also it took the removal to completely destroy his sanity for Liu ten to even think he was stronger than the tiger niko who was probably stronger than Liu ten knew

Formless without a doubt.

what chapter was this?

Is Mukaku alive?

I just realised that The Tiger Niko and Lolong Donnaire have the same face, plus both are not Asian

The Formless style is basically the Water Kata of the Niko Style on steroids. It's an expanded derivative of the Niko Style. That being said, I think Niko Style is generally better. That isn't discrediting Formless, though. Formless is a very good and versatile style. However, Niko Style has more going for it, and it is overall a better style.

Damn, the Baritsu style was for sure stronger than the Niko style except it doesnt have a strong level technique like the Demons Bane

So basically you have no respect for lu tians words, all he said is false according to you and advance is indeed the ultimate technique and its better than formless because why not, headcannon is strong. We should focus on what we have in manga and not in our own headcannon, in manga so far we got the confirmation that advance and falled are indeed not good techniqeus. Its actually funny how they call advance a niko style techniques, but in reality it has almost no meaning in the original style itself.

lolong will fight ohma So he is tigers vessel you can it in face off after raian murdered alan

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Perfect Formless < Perfect Niko style

Formless style has always proved to be better IRL. Bruce Lee is the big witness for it.

Wow the anime leaves out a lot of information

Tiger niko did both and said formless is better. I trust him.

im speed

Formless

Niko style all the way

niko bc plot

Kenga omega: Talking about the Niko style, worm, formless, and kure clan for past 30 chapters. Koga: 😐

The niko style is better cuz ohmas niko seggsy

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Liu tian is strong but his a fodder if you compare him to Yamashita Kazou