Kettlebell hard vs soft style single arm swing.

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Mark Wildman

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@justinmolyneux6040
@justinmolyneux6040 10 ай бұрын
Bought this for my youngest to develop basic form for single hand kettlebell work. kzfaq.infoUgkxtaDAl93XF8wxJhssTtjIFjzid82wglva It has a nice grip on it, just a little rough so it isn't slippery. I was doing a few rotator cuff exercises to test and worked well for those movements I'd been doing with a regular dumbbell. Cool thing you can do is hold it in your hand for door-knob turns to work the forearm and grip. Note: it's small, almost all handle, but that's what I expected given the weight. Smallest I've worked with before is 15lbs, so it was kind of funny to see the difference 10lbs makes.
@scottburkhart6953
@scottburkhart6953 3 жыл бұрын
I started last summer with a 20 lb. kb and moved to a 35 lb. kb about 2 months later. I am now using a 50 lb. kb and doing 100 swings per arm per day in a hard style. I do 10, 10 swing sets per arm with a switch at the top of my swing when switching arms. I vary clean and squats, clean and presses, clean and snatch with my swings each day. I use the high switch on these when changing arms without putting the kb down. I still use the 20 lb'er for my Turkish Get ups. lol. I can't bring myself to put the 35 lb'er over my head and try to get up off of the floor with it. I am approaching 66 yo in July and have the core strength of a 40 yo. I referee basketball and umpire baseball. My hips, knees, ankles, and joints in general, no longer ache when I lay down at night. I have the stamina to backpack and hike wherever I choose. Kettlebells are da bomb and I owe my training to you, Wildman!
@YakThaWiseman72
@YakThaWiseman72 Жыл бұрын
Damn that's impressive
@royromero8496
@royromero8496 Жыл бұрын
YES SIR WILDMAN IS THE REAL DEAL KUDO,S
@bullseyeandblaze6709
@bullseyeandblaze6709 2 жыл бұрын
This has blown my mind It’s never ending … the amount of stuff one can do with a simple kettle bell 👀
@MarkWildman
@MarkWildman 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a lot. It’s functionally infinite
@louisehogan5782
@louisehogan5782 3 жыл бұрын
I’m in my sitting room right now swinging a kettlebell 💪🏼😂
@MarkWildman
@MarkWildman 3 жыл бұрын
Like
@thenrie98
@thenrie98 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see this went up today. I look forward to a daily dose of Mark Wildman.
@Michael-cj5mn
@Michael-cj5mn 3 жыл бұрын
Good demo. Killing it .
@shumardi1
@shumardi1 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the demonstration.
@bryanchrist8876
@bryanchrist8876 3 жыл бұрын
Coach. You never let me down. Constantly! putting out great content. Still waiting for that Mark Wildman Kettlebell T-Shirt. :))
@orldoming
@orldoming 2 жыл бұрын
I glad I saw this, ut explained a lot of issues that I was wondering about. Thx again.
@kettlebro
@kettlebro 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I was waiting for it :)
@robertyu7356
@robertyu7356 3 жыл бұрын
Super helpful breakdown, thank you! Appreciate the way you describe and show the differences starting from hard style.
@jamiemorris6088
@jamiemorris6088 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome info. Thank you.
@paulovillasenor5645
@paulovillasenor5645 Жыл бұрын
Super helpful! Thank you!
@efromme
@efromme 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for the double dip instruction vid , this is great ! Mark hand to hand would be dope
@MarkWildman
@MarkWildman 3 жыл бұрын
Well. I’ll go make one
@efromme
@efromme 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarkWildman ty sir ! Would love to hear your take on it and see the method you use to teach the technique. I know the ikff peeps are big on the hand to hand, always wondered why .
@sligo405
@sligo405 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this.
@user-fl5lr1nm5v
@user-fl5lr1nm5v 4 ай бұрын
Superb explanation.
@andyserb128
@andyserb128 3 жыл бұрын
How's the app coming along? Didn't get any updates. Great content btw! Keep it up!
@UnchainedCyclist
@UnchainedCyclist 3 жыл бұрын
When’s the app going up, and what you calling it on the App Store?
@otismanousakos3946
@otismanousakos3946 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark, I'm approaching 24kg-20-10 emoms hard style two handed swings by mid June the way I'm going. I'm at 16 sets now. I don't want to get a 28 yet and will be ordering a 20kg soon. Should I just switch to single hard style swings and work my way up to 20 again or do 20 sets of 20 in emom? Also, will the app provide this kind of progression guidance? I figure I'll outgrow 16,20,24 kg by July 2022 the way I'm going. Bless you man! Without question the best channel on KZfaq. Can't wait to give you my money. 🙏🏼
@artwillvideos
@artwillvideos 3 жыл бұрын
I have a little bit of elbow issues, and find the full 180° rotation from thumb pointing back to pointing up, under tension, slightly painful (after many reps). So, I adjust to thumb pointing to the side at the bottom, and just do 90° rotation, and it helps.
@jasonacraft
@jasonacraft 3 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@floydwurst9948
@floydwurst9948 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Quick question: when I do (Hardstyle) one handed swings I turn my hand with each rep such that I have thumb down at the bottom and thumb up at the top. The reason being that my shoulder and posture feels better that way. Should I not do that and work on getting comfortable with the thumb down at the top?
@MarkWildman
@MarkWildman 3 жыл бұрын
You are doing it just fine.
@rickrayn
@rickrayn 3 жыл бұрын
i have been taught when using kettlebells to have a loose grip on the bell instead of a "death grip". Also for a single arm swings to have my arm bent slightly at the elbow to reduce injury.
@cucciafr68
@cucciafr68 3 жыл бұрын
I have been taught the loose grip method as well, but had to really figure it out for myself unfortunately. As for bending the elbow, what injury are you trying to prevent? The great thing about these exercises is they pull on the body so you get to work on the joints as well. That being said, they become a bit of a limiting factor while doing some exercises. Much like grip strength on a deadlift or heavy kettlebell swing. If it's strain around the elbow joint then maybe some lighter weights will help develop that area for you. It is very important to protect yourself though and be aware of what issues may arise.
@MarkWildman
@MarkWildman 3 жыл бұрын
Doing 2 years of single arm club progressions really really teaches the loose grip idea very very well
@gilbertgurney4898
@gilbertgurney4898 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to ask about the bent elbows and wrist of soft style . I noticed it when Mark wildman did the soft style 2 handed swing but not the single arm swing. Is there a benefit of doing this ?
@ChristianThierry
@ChristianThierry 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. What would be the effects of doing single arm swings with the handle perpendicular to the arm? I imagine it puts more demand on having strong wrists, but I'm not sure.
@100StrongManly
@100StrongManly 3 жыл бұрын
It’s more of a grip challenge and single arm also has a core rotational element v two hand
@antonomaseapophasis5142
@antonomaseapophasis5142 3 жыл бұрын
I started doing the MW kettlebell program without experience with kettlebells or weight training, so I am never sure if I am making the right conclusions, but I was surprised that the arms are only present as connectors, not force generators. It seems to me that in swings you are sending the kettlebell out and up with the hip snap, the arms come along for the ride. It is just sort of weird that if you execute the hip movement correctly the kettlebell almost seems weightless.
@MarkWildman
@MarkWildman 3 жыл бұрын
The kb is essentially pulling your arm away from the socket with swings. As it gets heavier you will notice the kat and shoulder complex contracting to counter act it
@hanneskonigwinqvist4396
@hanneskonigwinqvist4396 3 жыл бұрын
How about shoulder impingement problems with downwards thumb rotation? Prestretching is there but if you don't rotate the humerus out at the top you spend hell of a lot of time internally rotated. What are your risk concerns on this?
@MarkWildman
@MarkWildman 3 жыл бұрын
I have none. Start light. Build to heavy
@Korealignments
@Korealignments 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a moment in training where one would switch from a two-handed swing to a one-handed swing? I've been working my way up using EMOM with a two-handed swing and am at 160 swings in 10 minutes. Was thinking when I hit 200, I'd jump up in weight. Would it be better to keep the same weight and just go to a one-handed swing? Or should I be mixing them in or alternating?
@eamonob84
@eamonob84 2 жыл бұрын
You could do one arm swings for your "heavy" days and two arm swings for your "light" days. Lower reps for one arm, higher for two arm.
@Muenchies
@Muenchies 3 жыл бұрын
In Return of the Kettlebell, the guy working with Pavel talks about orienting the bells with the thumbs pointed back as a way to pre-stretch the external rotators in the shoulder. He said he’d use it for swimmers who do a lot of internal rotation. So in addition to being safer for elbow, it seems there are other benefits to it. It also makes me think of the version you demonstrate of the hand-to-hand swing, where the bell rotates 180 degrees at the top. In both cases, I wonder if spinning the bell helps stabilize it like a gyroscope.
@dylanmahanets6603
@dylanmahanets6603 2 жыл бұрын
That makes no sense... wouldn't you stretch the internal rotators since there the ones that would be getting shorter.
@Muenchies
@Muenchies 2 жыл бұрын
@@dylanmahanets6603 Specifically, in that video they demonstrate STARTING at the bottom with the bell rotated with the thumb pointed at least somewhat backwards, but then rotating to thumb up on each rep of the swing or clean. This is as opposed pointing the thumb either up or down throughout the WHOLE rep.
@calebcomstock6697
@calebcomstock6697 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding hardstyle with lighter weights, I find if I swing the shit out of it with enough force for a snatch but hit the breaks when my arm is parallel to the ground, I get a little more bang for my buck in my shoulders and the little muscles in my mid back. Not sure if this is something people do intentionally but I like it.
@MarkWildman
@MarkWildman 3 жыл бұрын
That is in fact... hard style. I’m just to lazy to be good at hard style anymore. I’m somewhere in the middle of everything.
@calebcomstock6697
@calebcomstock6697 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarkWildman good to know. Doing this without a coach present for years at a stretch is probably something I should change..
@giatonpeonta8071
@giatonpeonta8071 2 жыл бұрын
another possibility is to accelerate on the way down, and not just let gravity pull the bell down but put some force, too
@shak535
@shak535 3 жыл бұрын
It does not look like the type of kettlebell effects the different technique styles of swing , is that the case with all kettlebell moves or are some moves specific to competition vrs. soft style kettlbells ? thx for the great content as always
@cucciafr68
@cucciafr68 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it matters at all. The only issue I ever run into is the smaller hard style bells can cause wrist pain in the rack position because of the contact point changes with the size of the bell. I have hard style at home and soft style at my bjj gym and can do any exercises with either type. The comp style is just to keep everything an even playing field is what I imagine.
@shak535
@shak535 3 жыл бұрын
@@cucciafr68 that makes sense thx Frank .
@Cindy-bu7ns
@Cindy-bu7ns 2 жыл бұрын
What's a hybrid style look like? Is it a pointless swing
@diegovalenter
@diegovalenter 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark, in the soft style versions I usually see people alternating lifting slightly one of their feet during the low and high positions of the swing, but never mention the actual reasoning behind it.
@MarkWildman
@MarkWildman 3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s adding a bit more rotation, but I’m not an expert
@dogrescuer1321
@dogrescuer1321 Жыл бұрын
Mark do recommend a routine where I'm doing both single and double handed swings?
@MarkWildman
@MarkWildman Жыл бұрын
Yes
@dogrescuer1321
@dogrescuer1321 Жыл бұрын
@@MarkWildman wow ok thanks.
@dogrescuer1321
@dogrescuer1321 Жыл бұрын
@@MarkWildman sir when doing my swings my momentum throws me to my toes ( off balance) can I fix this with practice or is that just my stupid ataxia please?
@royromero8496
@royromero8496 Жыл бұрын
WILDMAN IS THE REAL DEAL KUDO,S
@davidgbaker1087
@davidgbaker1087 2 жыл бұрын
Is hard style better for strengthening and soft style better for endurance?
@MarkWildman
@MarkWildman 2 жыл бұрын
generally yes
@hiphopinfukuoka
@hiphopinfukuoka 3 жыл бұрын
Naru hodo! Benkyo narimashita! This means in Japanese OK I got it! I understand what you’re saying! Peace and blessings from Fukuoka!
@MarkWildman
@MarkWildman 3 жыл бұрын
Ie desu ne
@hiphopinfukuoka
@hiphopinfukuoka 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarkWildman Good morning Mark! I’m watching this video again this morning. I think you wanted to write “ii desk ne” which can mean “good for you”. If you write “ie”, it might look like you’re writing “iie” which means “no” and then the meaning of the sentence is questionable. Probably most Japanese people will think you meant the first meaning and just made a simple typo, common for us foreigners. The Japanese themselves say that their language is very difficult to learn even for them.
@djskinni44
@djskinni44 3 жыл бұрын
I always look at hardstyle and have concerns for his knees.....that is a fair snap going on.
@carlpalacios
@carlpalacios Жыл бұрын
Same, and surprised people are not commenting more about it
@pulltaboo
@pulltaboo Жыл бұрын
Would you consider SSST a soft style?
@MarkWildman
@MarkWildman Жыл бұрын
Not how most people do it. It was super HardStyle but as movement evolved double dip snatched are just as fast as HardStyle single dip snatches.
@jonathanmoran2592
@jonathanmoran2592 Жыл бұрын
I know hardstyle so well softstyle seems so weird
@MarkWildman
@MarkWildman Жыл бұрын
It’s actually really cool once you work on it for a few months
@dogrescuer1321
@dogrescuer1321 Жыл бұрын
So Mr Mark hardstyle is heavy weight and soft is light?
@MarkWildman
@MarkWildman Жыл бұрын
No. HardStyle is maximum tension, soft style is efficient
@adamm7949
@adamm7949 3 жыл бұрын
Which style of swing would be better for an obese person? (talking 400+ lbs)
@mrhamgolian9006
@mrhamgolian9006 3 жыл бұрын
I reckon the one that, that person will do everyday.
@cucciafr68
@cucciafr68 3 жыл бұрын
You could program both. Focus on the hard style for an EMOM to get that explosive power and then a longer, higher volume soft style maybe for time, alternating hands after so many reps (if doing single arm, of course).
@StanfordChiou
@StanfordChiou 3 жыл бұрын
Mark actually has a video where he answers a 400lb person's question about which exercises would be best for him: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z7tyqNp81JnOpo0.html
@MarkWildman
@MarkWildman 3 жыл бұрын
Most people start with hard style. If a person is to big around, then we move to single arm club progressions. Starting with inside circle, outside circle, and 360
@adamm7949
@adamm7949 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarkWildman thanks very much 🙂👍
@andreyche193
@andreyche193 Жыл бұрын
I do not think your representation of a "soft style" swing is quite accurate. Look at the arms in the two-handed swing: why are they bent in elbows - does it add anything to the efficiency? You arms will get tired all for nothing, that's all! And then the same about legs: it looks like you squat twice per cycle. What is that for? Why do you feel you need to straighten you legs when the kettlebell moves back? The actual "competition style" starts with positioning your feet comfortably - on a diagonal and then moving your body weight from one leg to another, back and forth, to assist the swing. There is no squatting in swings or snatches, none at all! Try doing it 20-50 reps (depending on the weight) nonstop, just switching between hands and you will get to the most efficient movement pattern pretty quickly: that will be the "soft style"! "Soft style" is about making as many snatches or double-hand jerks (or racking and jerking in a long cycle) in 10 minutes as you can - no extra score awarded or removed for "style" or "correct breathing".
@HeartPumper
@HeartPumper 3 жыл бұрын
Basically: Soft - slavic approach to kettlebells. Hard - overthinked, mercantilised & bull$$hitised (CrossFit fanatics) approach.
@Cyberbronco
@Cyberbronco 3 жыл бұрын
The wandering camera man is making me sea sick. Can’t watch..
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