Absolutely agree

I've had my 5D Mk3 for years and it's an absolute work animal. I reckon, it'll stay in my camera bag for a long time, even after i switch to mirrorless.

I'm about to buy a used one tomorrow, first time getting a full-frame as well.

@@dewy3288 just make sure, that the shutter count isn't massive.

I would say an used 5D4 is the best deal today. Money vs performance is best. I would not worry about RF lenses. Even so, EF lenses should sell pretty cheap soon.

It's the magic of reading from a script on a teleprompter! Will continue to try and deliver the same type of stuff, thanks for subscribing.

Do you use your EF lenses on the R6? If so how's the focus on these? That's the one part I'm hesitant about !

@@seancoombes3446 - Hi Sean. All I have is EF "L" lenses and they all work flawlessly with the adapter. Focusing is fast and accurate, I would say this was the feature that appealed me the most when I rented the R6 before I bought it. I'd advice you to rent it first if your in doubt but I'm sure you won't be disappointed. I was debating between the R5 and the R6 just because of the sensor resolution as 20MP were not too appealing to me, but I have not had any issues with it and I have done some (moderate) cropping with my pictures with great results. Well, I could go on but I think this answers you question, Sean. The R6, in my opinion, is superior to the 5DMK4 I've been using for several years and I simply love it. Hope this helps and I if you need any extra info, I'll be more than happy to help. Good luck 👍

Agreed completely.

How do you feel about the image quality and the difference in resolution? Does the noise level and sharpness of the R6 compensate for the drop from 30 to 20 Mpx?

@@muresansergiubohdan - At the time I'm responding to this question, I no longer have the 5DMK4, I sold it as I completely transitioned to mirrorless. I continue to use the R6 and, in relation to your question, I don't miss/need the extra 10 Mpxs of the 5DMK4. I still regard that camera as a great one but the DSLR days are gone for me. The R6 has always met my expectations in sharpness, noise and low light conditions, pretty much in every field except in one: cropping from a far subject like birds. To compensate, I bought a canon 100-400 mm L lens with a 1.4x teleconverter and results have been fantastic. There was a time I felt tempted to get the R5 because of this reason, but as somebody wisely wrote somewhere in a video comment here..."you don't need to get another camera, you just need to get closer". That comment made me change my mind and saved me about $2000 dollars...I have not regretted doing so 😉

Somehow, not a single camera drop while doing this for over ten years... but I'm sure that will eventually change lol.

How do you find the raw files of the r6? I’ve heard the raw colors strong out of the markiv are better especially beacuse of the canon profiles! Have you noticed ?

Hi I like to shoot short movie so which one is good for professional

I'm not so sure about that price development. I own my 5D mark IV three years now, and the price difference between what I paid and the price now is € 200,- The R6 stayed on the same price level pretty much the whole first year. I think Canon is counting on the loyalty of users just because they already own the glass. (Although with that in mind I feel they should have thrown in that EF-RF-adapter for free). I for one are still using my EF lenses and I don't plan on replacing them since I think they are absolutely wonderful and I still use the 5D IV alongside the R6...

Thanks for watching!

You can use EF lenses with the R6? I thought you could only use RF lenses

@@destiny3403 Sure, you can grab a cheap EF to RF converter from Canon, and every EF lens will work 100% perfectly. My old lenses are GREAT with the R6 stabilizer :)

Glad it was helpful Luigi

100% agree, very similar real-world experience

Your right

Absolutely, I sold it after making this video but I do miss how well-constructed it was

Same here :) I shoot motorsports and after I got a 5Div I rarely use the 7Dii - there's just no comparison.

@@kadinaator I got to that point with 7d1 and 6d a long time ago.

Stick to your 5D MKIV, it's so much better than the R6, especially regarding the 30MP resolution over the paltry 20MP of the amateur R6.

What usually works is loosely wrapping the neck strap around your wrist, while 'dangling' the camera in your hand. I never had a situation where the camera actually dropped on the floor, but I did have a slip on a stair case covered in moss, where my immediate reaction was to hold camera close to my body, bruising my shoulder. So I guess it's part of the initiation process on walking around with a camera. I personally hate using neck straps, it's fatiguing after a day's walk.

I dangle, too. But with a write strap. I refuse to use anything around my neck or over my shoulder.

Well said 💯💯💯💯💯

Try the 5D4 in live view and you will see that the focus is on par with R6. At least for stills. For videos it won't make much of a difference either. When using the optical viewfinder focus you are actually using a 20+ year old technology and cannot expect spectacular results.

@Steve Hadfield which ones the banana 🍌 n which ones the cucumber 🥒?

I shoot mostly still, but they are stills of action. The 12fps mechanical and 20fps electronic, and eye and body tracking put the R6 in a whole different league. A game changer.

Did you ever get over the lack of the top LCD? I feel like I'm going to miss it a lot but really can't justify an extra $1k+ for the R5.

@@Furudo Yea. There is a lot to get used to. It's more computer than manual camera. But the photos are fantastic.

@@TexMex421 Thanks, that's good to know. Very excited to try it out. I'm upgrading from a 60D so it's going to be huge.

@@Furudo If you are adapting any EF lenses, get the real Canon adapter. Third party ones are often problematic, where the canon ones work perfectly (in my experience) When you can, move to RF lenses. They are all just a little better/sharper/faster focusing. (again, this is my experience)

glad it was helpful!

And here I was, thinking some parts of this comparison were just a technical jargon mouthful (like the video section) lol. Glad it was helpful!

glad it was helpful!

Thank you for sharing

Glad it was helpful!

Thanks for taking the time to comment, sounds like you've had a lot of interesting experiences! You're correct, I failed to mention the increased cost of RF lenses mainly because the EF to RF adapter performance was pretty much flawless in my experience. Anybody looking to continue using cheaper EF mount lenses could do so without compromising quality.

I appreciate it, and glad it was helpful! Thanks

Yep. It's a miracle, Canon finally implemented it!

Glad it was helpful!

Without even watching, the 5D4 video files are too big and the R6 overheats. Avoid both and waut for R62 or even RP2 (but with LPE6 battery, not the horendous LPE17)

One thing to keep in mind is while mirrorless cameras are great for simulating exposure before you take the shot you do need to be cognizant of the settings because in my experience when I'm under extreme fast moments, you can crank up your iso to increase exposure without realizing you turned it enormously because it's doesn't stimulate noise. Or if you turn down shutter speed too low and your subject is too blurry due to subject motion or camera shake since the simulation cannot approximate that

Action shots and after 6pm party’s, which one do you recommend?

thanks for watching!

Glad it was helpful!

Agree with everything you've said - the price jump to the R5 is a very limiting factor. Glad it was helpful!

But for PHOTOGRAPHY the R6 should also be good enough or?

@@getwetsoon For straight up photography the RP is gaining a great reputation, even better than the R. For photographing into the night, or video, you want the R6. I wouldn't get the Canon 5d IV until the prices tank another $1000.

@@robertmueller6979 but the RP is better than the R6 for Photography?

@@getwetsoon ... look up "Comparing all 4 Canon Mirrorless Cameras EOS RP, R, R6 and R5". It will explain what I'm talking about.

You sound like me, and how happy I felt after upgrading! I do agree the point system is flawed, but I figured it was the easiest way to quantify this comparison. Everyone should weight the categories depending on what matters the most to them

Do you find any differences in the raw files? The mark iv has dedicated picture profiles and the r6 does not. How much different do the skin tones look and which do you prefer,?

@@kingofpresets8437 Hi, thank you for the question. Unfortunately I can't answer it because I haven't tested the difference in skin tones yet. And I doubt that I will do this in the future because I don't feel the need for comparisons. Maybe because there is no big difference. And picture profiles? Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think those are important for capturing videos only. As I really never do this, it's not relevant for me and I can't answer this question either. Sorry for not being as helpful as you hoped, but over all I'm more interested in capturing moments than checking technical details. What I actually prefer in a camera is a certain ruggedness, good ergonomics, and a fast and accurate autofocus. That's what I got with the R6. Have a nice day :-)

Glad it was helpful!

the 5D MK4 kills at both

Thank you very much. Glad this helped you to make a decision!

Yep, super reliable!

@@kevinraposo welp i spoke too soon. i had a card corruption error on R6 this past week! had to use recovery software because an entire lexar pro card of photos showed up blank in camera after a shoot (and on PC)

@@jubjuber1 Wow. Crazy timing, right after you said that lol. Usually how it works though

@@kevinraposo right! No idea what caused it. Maybe a fluke. Hopefully they figure it out in a future update

I sold my 5dmk4 and switched to olyjip m1 mark ii 😊 never looked back

@@bamsemh1 same here. Sold it and switched to Leica SL2. End game for me. At least for next 10 years.

I appreciate it!

The 6D was my first full-frame camera, one of my favourite that I've ever owned! But you'll love the R6, enormous upgrade.

Hi, I’m also hoping to take a lot of action shots - kids & dogs. So do you mean that 5Dm4 is too slow from your experience? Thanks! :)

@@sylvoniaa Hey Pixie, if the question was meant to be directed to me, then I do not think 5D4 is bad camera whatsoever, but the R6 has autofocus advantage, tilting screen - big advantage for video, but I found myself using it super often for stills too. Just the reality of not having to manually choose autofocus point no more is a huge plus for me. Honestly since upgrading from 6D it is like day and night shooting experience. The tilting display is perfect for low angle shots of smaller dog breeds like ours are, and eye-level photography of kids is great with it as well, I barely ever use viewfinder now. Overall, if the budget is not a limiting factor, I would go for R6 any day over DSLR. Good luck choosing the right machine.

@@BrekoTa thank you so much for your reply 😊 I’ll go for the R6!

@@sylvoniaa My pleasure. You will be very happy with your new camera. Have a nice day.

Glad it was helpful!

I appreciate it!

the term 'image quality' is highly subjective. I disagree with your assessment, and prefer the image quality coming out of my R6. how would I assign a point to a category based on personal opinion? much more effective to break down 'image quality' as a combination of sensor size, megapixels, dynamic range, rolling shutter, low-light performance, and lens options, all of which were individually referenced in this video

@@kevinraposo Those things are definitely valuable things to know about, but they aren't what I'm talking about. If you judge a camera by dynamic range, low-light performance, rolling shutter etc, Leica would come bottom of the list. I don't think it's entirely subjective, but it is arguably a hard thing to quantify. Maybe it's just me. I largely prefer the EF primes to the RF ones too. I have the RF 50mm f/1.2L and while it's optical 'perfect', it lacks the character of its EF counterpart (despite the softness and chromatic aberration). It's like if I took a Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 and shot it at F/4 at 35mm, and I took the EF 35mm f/1.4L and shot it at the same settings, the Tamron would be sharper, cleaner, with less distortion, less vignetting etc. But the 35mm L lens would produce a nicer image. Why is it better? I couldn't break it down to explain it. It kind of just… is.

Finally someone mentioned the image quality part, thanks brother. Horrible colors SOOC. I have an R6 and a 5DC, havent touched R6 after getting hands on 5DC. Looking for a similar camera with few additional features, more focus points and live view mainly. Confused between 5diii vs 5div. Looking for better colors! Could you advice?

correct

You will find the video production experience with the R6 is outstanding, at least in my opinion

@@kevinraposo thanks, I hope so

Thanks a lot, I appreciate it!

I appreciate it, and glad the comparison was helpful!

I'm probably going to regret it some day...

Guilty here too. Balances great with a 70-200. People freak out all the time.

I love how the images look with the 5D MKIV too! It’s sort of different and shadows are more in depth in my opinion. But I really want an R6 to see what RF lenses are all about!

I noticed this on the mirrorless cam that images look more digital/creamy

Appreciate the detailed comment, and glad it was a helpful comparison!

correct

Up? That sounds like a joke, because in Sweden the price has only gone down. But should still be half the price, If you look on what you get.

In the UK price is still high for the 5Dmkiv.

Glad it was helpful, appreciate the kind words!

Thanks a lot!

Glad I could help someone with similar circumstances!

Just a question: where does the development of R6 leave R and RP? Before the recent models, these were the offerings from canon, RP being the entry level body like 6D, and R being the mid level body like 5D range...

agree, the cost of RF lenses can be exorbitant. I am still primarily using EF lenses adapted for the R6 until the price comes down

glad it helped you make a decision!

Been sold my 5DM4 and 70D and several L lenses. Leica SL2 I now have, has been eye opening in performance for my work.

7D mark II

Well that's weird. I've used the MK IV, R and currently the R6. The focusing isn't even close and the video just destroys the MK IV. The ISO performance is way better and my workflow is way faster due to smaller files and dual SD cards. Even though the images have lower megapixel the images are sharper. I could easily under expose 3 stops and not worry about anything (even at high ISO). I rarely miss focus and damn that 12 fps and nearly unlimited buffer is sweet. RF lenses are amazing, used the 100-500 loved it. I've seen a lot of EOS R and MK IV user switched and they haven't regretted a bit. Wonder where the few people you said are from DPreview or Reddit? Anyway I tried googling I and I found non lol. Give me a reddit link or any forum link then.

Good point!

Glad it was helpful!

Great feedback, thanks for sharing! Forgot about the AA filter, very good point.

It may be the future, but the present the point clearly goes to the ef lenses as they are very abundant new and used at all price points.

@@reality150tv And for $100 you can buy the adapter and use all your EF lenses on the R6 with no drop off in performance or image quality.

@@Teightrsalad My guy, what does that have to do with anything? He said the rf mount is the future, and that was a response to that. While it may be the future mounting system, it has very little to do with the present with the amount of ef lenses on the market new and used is insane. What does that mean? really good prices because of the abundance. We are also still talking about the 5d mark iv vs the r6 as the center point and that being the reason to upgrade. I personally dont think that the rf mount being the future is reason enough to upgrade to the r6, I am sure many opinions differ and that is fine. if dropping that amount on a new camera is justifiable by you based on image quality if that is your primary use of the camera, or video abilities then by all means go for it. When I make a major investment, I usually make sure that it isnt an incremental upgrade for my use. If we are talking picture quality and that is the main reason to upgrade then it most definitely falls short of that mark. Not saying that the 5d has a better picture, But if it is still good enough for the majority of photographers then why upgrade? The picture quality improvement is negligible, and I dont find the r6 an adequate upgrade to the 5d mark iv if that is ur current shooter. That would go to the r5 and I think that would be a more worthy upgrade. At the end of the day if the r6 checks the boxes for you and improves your daily life then go for it. There is obviously a market for the camera. I personally think it is more of an upgrade for someone on something other then a 5d mark iv, but not for a current owner of one, unless you do a lot of video, and I would still go for the r5 if that was the case, as its price point is close to what the 5d mark iv was at release, and a 5 series.

@@reality150tv well said

Glad it was helpful! No regrets on my end with the R6, extremely happy with it.

Appreciate it, thanks for watching!

You can see it better with the R6 EVF because it automatically brightens the image

no problem!

Thanks, I appreciate it!

I can tell you that I have shot with the R6 under light rain without issue, but I do not believe the weather-sealing is as robust as the 5D4. I probably wouldn't feel comfortable keeping it out in a torrential downpour

No problem!

Thanks a lot. Takes a lot of work, but glad it's appreciated

can't say I agree, I was very happy with the quality of the 4K footage I was getting out of the 5D MK4 with C-Log. but yes, the R6 and now the R6 Mark II are substantially better

In newer technology and features? yes But in picture quality? I have the 5d mark iv, and a friend has the r5. I have seen a few things that are a tad better but nothing worth writing home about. If i were to upgrade it would def be the r5, most def not the r6. I dont feel like you are getting enough, sure people are gonna say well it has this and has that, sure, but if i want to upgrade from the 5d the only suitable upgrade is the r5. I agree that it is an excellent camera, but at the end of the day it depends on what you use ur camera for and does that justify the cost. For many yes, but for me atm no. I want to add if u dont own any of these 3 cameras and u are amateur or even pro photographer, amd the r6 meets ur check list then by all means get the r6 dont throw extra money around that can be used for lens , memory cards or other misc, equipment u need. I just think for most that have the 5d mark iv it is not enough of an upgrade as i dont even see it as the successor. That is the r5. Wanted to clear that up as it may have come off that i am totally against the r6.

@@reality150tv That is fair, if you don't see the value, by all means do not spend the money. It is priced very near what the original 5D mk IV was priced at and using your own argument the 5D mk IV wasn't "worth" the upgrade over the 5D mk III either. The 5D mk IV made lesser spec jumps over the mk III than the R5 does over the 5DIV : 22mp to 30mp DIGIC 4 to DIGIC 6, 6fps to 7 fps, better dynamic range and a modest improvement to AF. 5D mk IV to R5: 30mp to 45mp and 7fps to 12 fps (20 electronic) significant DIGIC 6 to DIGIC X, AF difference is monumental R5 is best focusing system canon ever made. The R5 could very well be the best CANON body in the entire digital era as it compares to the competition at launch. Like all things technological, the R5 will soon be "OLD" and that is alway frustrating, I skipped over the 5D mk IV and just kept my Mk III waiting for Canon to launch a mirrorless, the EOS R I bought was OK liked it better in some ways in others not. But my R5, absolutely no regrets, best camera I ever owned save for my 1986 Canon T90 which honestly at that time felt just as bad ass then as this R5 does today.

@@reality150tv agreed, R6 can compete with 6D2 , not 5d4. The R5 can

@@macreviewz7187 The video here shows in fact that it can compete in many ways.

@@RealtorRod64 5d4 is a huge leap in DR over 5d3 at a time when canon was waaaay behind nikon and sony. you both make good points. i'm reluctant but the 14-35 will hasten my purchase of R5 ;-)