Williston Audio Labs easier than an easy bake oven!

*groan*

Love the kicker key, i have the 180.4 45wX4. BiAmp mode is amazing! Love it, I'm ready to get the 200.4. Hopefully Kicker will make an even stronger key, perhaps 300.4 or even better, a 3 way front stage!!! 300.6???

Yes, a single component for multiple amp setup would be nice. Also, ability to press a button and re-equalize or have multiple presets for when there are other passengers in the cab. In addition, if the component could communicate with other kicker amps so the user could have the amps set the normal way and the ability to recall the KEY setting at any time regardless of the amp setting. This could be possible. I had RCA Dimensia components in the late 80's where every component communicated to each other via RCA connections.

Love hearing stories like this! I’d love to hear what you think after you get it installed.

You killed it on this one man! I absolutely love it

@Fernando Eid Pires Great work, Fernando! Now we need a 6-channel KEY Amp for a 3-way front stage + processed RCA Subwoofer or 2-channel rear speaker Preamp Outputs....50w x 4 + 125w x 2 + 2-channels of processed Preamp outputs for a Subwoofer or Rear coaxials. ;-) DO IT!!!

Which focal are you running with these I wanna try the with the es 165k

@@abe4781 auditors

Jesse Strahn you know ima lay on it 😂

LanceFlugerman you’re gonna be happy

Sell the 180.4 get the 200.4 its worth it. Wish I had done so.😉

@@IrieRedGnome its for a riyobi party station rolling lemonade stand.

The 400x4 is a fantastic amp if you’ve already got a dsp in play, but if not I’d definitely consider the Key. In fact I just installed another in my Isuzu Trooper

@@HifiVega I definitely think that's the way I'm going to go I like to match amplifiers but in this case I have to make an exception and I save like 200 bucks

@@d77543020 if you get it off Amazon I gotta affiliate link in the description 😉

I kinda wanna check out the 500.1 myself now

It's a shame (maybe in a future upgrade) they didn't give the 200.4 a sub out that could be integrated into the dsp system.

Yeah man makes me wanna try my hand at rapping 😂

cafe80s yeah it was surpirsing

Mary Burgin I’m impressed

@@HifiVega i could see this amp working well in a small hatch back or miata where space is a issue

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It happens like that sometimes

Jason Rose another one!

Thanks for watching homie! I’m certain this tech is gonna make it’s way into more stuff

Bi amping on this amp is just running the front stage, tweeter and mid range off the front and rear channels of the amp making it an active front stage

@@HifiVega Actually I turned the gains up on the Kicker & the lights never came on. This setup was efficient & think there is more to come. I just finished an install on my other car a Toyota Camry that I just got & I think the 2 Amp system in that car is already jealous of the Honda.

Yes sir that’s exactly how I have it and it worked beautifully

Yessir when you use high level the remote on this amp turns into a remote output

Yeah you could change settings on the hu to effect the sound for sure

Savard Rap 6.5 comp set and RF 6.5 coax

Even tho the Key has that range, but that doesn’t mean it’ll let your midbass play down that low. I haven’t checked but my mids seem to be crossed over around 60hz. You can add the sub amp to give you the true sub frequencies you’ll be lacking with just a component set

@@HifiVega Good point. So, the only way to get good low bass correctable by the 200.4 is to not have full range or even midbass speakers in the back, but rather use two good woofers (subwoofer). The only issue there may be the only 50watts RMS per channel. Or perhaps a dual voice coil sub. But, I guess I could EQ with the 200.4, using subs in the back, but then substitute a more powerful amp that takes the high voltage output of the 200.4 speaker leads? Would you agree?

@@davidcrandon2329 I wouldn’t use any subs with the 200.4 instead I’d go with the 500.1 or another sub amp and let the 200.4 take care of the speakers producing the sound

@@HifiVega But bass frequencies are the most critical and usually messed up in terms of EQ. At least in home systems. I would assume so in cars as well. But what about the idea of running the 200.4 to two rear subs just to EQ them. Then run the high level speaker outputs of the 200.4 to a higher power amp to actually power the subs. They'd still be EQ'd, correct?

@@davidcrandon2329 I am having both the kicker key 200.4 and 500.1 installed in my truck. The both have the DSP EQ tuning deal with the microphone for you to tune each the same way more or less. Adding the 500.1 works very well from all i have researched and will soon hear.

@MobLaw Call or Email Kicker Tech Support and they can ship a KEY microphone to you.

Yea it does eq and time alignment for you

@@HifiVega My friend do you have any good component speakers or three-way components that would fit well with these? I'm concerned about the amount of power to each component it seems like if you're running 50 watts to a tweeter the same as you are to your mid-range with the tweeter be overpowered?

If you don’t put it in bi amp mode it will pretty much be full range from what I understand

Bi amp mode would give you the best sound, but you could also run passive in front and full range to the coax and be very happy as well. I wouldn’t run the rears off the factory hu unless you absolutely had to

@@HifiVega Thank you! 👍🏼

@@HifiVega How about this setup? Run the front tweeters and door speakers biamp mode and add a two channel amp to run the rear door speakers? Tap into the head unit signal using a RCA Y spliter cable? Thanks you.

You can do minor tweaks to the tune using your headunit or bypass the Key EQ all together and set the sound to your preference. Definitely let the Key set the crossovers instead of setting them on the headunit. Other than that I’d explore fortifying the doors a bit using some sound dampening if you haven’t already

Wow, thanks for the fast replay. So I can turn the Kicker EQ off and still use the Mic to automatically set the cross-overs? If that's what you're saying, I like that suggestion. I have already dampened the doors. Thanks again.

@@atmiller70 yessir that’s exactly what I’m saying!

On a motorcycle I assume you will want a decent amount of power. I run this amp in my truck it’s compact, powerful and affordable. You can also use coupon code HIFIVEGA10 to save a few bucks nvx.com/products/mvpa4-600w-rms-marine-v-series-4-channel-class-d-compact-powersports-amplifier?ref=vPNtqb-iBPCiEp

@@HifiVega Appreciate it. That was one on the shortlist.

Absolutely

@@HifiVega awesome. I have to look into it a little more but it’d be cool to run the woofers up front bridged on one and the tweeters and rear off another one.

It would do the job very well imo

Thank you. I got a few projects coming together here soon including a 6th order crx.

I don’t know off hand I’m sure they’re listed on the kicker website tho

@@HifiVega thanks love your videos

@@davidgreggs3903 thanks bro I appreciate you watching

It EQ’s your stock signal, but if you want to start with a flat signal I believe you need to add a Keyloc before this

don't know about the 200.4 but the 500.1 sub amp definitely restores bass - see kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iZyYqcKl0tm-nH0.html for demo. I plan to install both in a couple of weeks, with bi-amp 200.4 for front stage, rears running off car amp for fill and sub running off the 500.1

Johnny 24 that’s for rear speakers it’s the DXA125.2

@@HifiVega oh thanks sorry about that. I have the kicker 600.1 that looks exactly the same I'm really impressed by it with the power and being so small. Didn't like the fact I had to buy a remote bass knob though lol.

No you can hook up just the front or rear

Thanks I just picked one up and plan on using it active so I was rewatching some reviews. Several people including kicker and dean answered that question in their videos but I appreciate the reply. Only decision left is if I want to cut the rca ends or splice into the remote wire

I put the mic in the drivers in my wife’s seating position, so the image is centered when you’re sitting in her exact seating position lol

@@HifiVega So left of center. 😞

Robert Van Hoy yeah this a one seat tune, but I do prefer a 2 seat tune

@@HifiVega You know I love making that argument lol. The way cars are made we sit L/R of center. It's funny hearing what people think is center 😂.

@@thenotoriousrvh6091 The "Center" imaging or "center of the soundstage" such as a main vocalist is designed to be centered above the dash of the vehicle...IOW, equidistant between the front Left and Right speakers, not centered in front of you over the top center of the steering wheel. If it was set up to "center" the soundstage over the top center of your steering wheel directly in front of you, the Left side of the soundstage would be overly compressed and "bunched up" in the small distance between the top center of the steering wheel and the left side of the vehicle, and the Right side of the soundstage from the top center of the steering wheel to the far passenger side of the vehicle would be extended and spread out over a much larger distance, resulting in a horribly uneven soundstage.

Once it does it’s thing you’ll be surprised how much 50 watts actually is

Oh yeah for sure you can. Just click off the bi amp switch

@@HifiVega thanks for the quick reply. Is this essentially the same thing as the Alpine KTP-445U power pack?

Sounds like someone has bad grounding

Most likely a problem with Hiss coming from your Source unit and/or your gain structure, not the KEY amp. I've installed a half dozen of the Kicker Key amps in various vehicles and never had an issue with hiss or a high noise floor at all. Something else in your setup wasn't right, or you were unlucky and received a defective KEY amp.

Have you tried doing it in a garage with the car turned off (turn the key to acc)

@@HifiVega haven tried it in the garage was doing it outside the garage I’ll give that a shot. The car is off though

Ruben Torres yeah that’s one downside for sure that I shoulda though to mention

lotechgreg this is a Sonata

@@HifiVega WAY outa my pricerange then... JK do these mod's work with the base system's?

Keep that you might need to recalibrate in the future

So in other words I can unplug it put it away in clove bix?