D sadly 😅

No sauce, nothing. Homie just said "D", raw af ​@@CanYouRollaCrit

F tier for forgotten

​@@jeffreymonsell659 good one 😂

Ah they're not A tier in this meta sadly, thanks!

Thanks! Yeah weird state for elites sadly. Same, it should come back soon hopefully!

Yup, very well-designed teams!

Compendium bros are special to me 💞

@@CanYouRollaCrit Good to hear. Though I understand going forward maybe only putting the ones that at least show up in C tier normally. Do not waste time with the compendium only tiers.

Yeah, overall internal balance is great now. Just need the same for Heirotek! Pretty much oddly, Exaction are in a weird place

Thanks! I've done a fre guides for teams under the guides playlist as well as on my podcast (:

intercession is definitely the simplest. then maybe kommandos?

Probably the 5 single box teams I did a vid on but Intercession are probably the easiest (:

Being able to out activate you while setting up powerful threats and combos to delete your own operatives basically

No but my 1 box team video kinda covers that

Ah probably D tier overall with marines

Haha thanks (:

Oh nice to hear! Yeah deffo a hard team to buff imo

You'll be pleasantly surprised haha

Ah no emergency change I feel, just another 3 month wait

Yup, pretty much!

It works on any enemy operative in the kill zone and just means they do not benefit from the obscured rule

Maybe they'll be better again soon? 😅

@@CanYouRollaCrit lol hopefully, but it doesn't matter much for me as I'm playing with friends who aren't tournament level good!

Kill Team is more fun, with a harder hurdle to learn, but once you get the hang of it, you'll quickly love the game. Getting a line laser really helps as after that it's all pretty straightforwards

Oh nice, that's great to hear! Will do (:

13 wounds for all elites would be great imo Intercession are fine atm but just have a weird meta around them

Seems weird to house rule nerf an average team lol

@@zyearwood4587 well there weren't back then, also default so no fun to play for me and one other player we just had to Honestly it's pretty good I think it's a shame intercession can't go for a cqc build now, assault doctrine sucks, plasma is so important your leader only gets a csw, and they made Rapid, located in cqc category absolutely worthless for cqc Man, i want another good elite team so much, justinian was complete disappointment

Nah I don't think that would be a good workaround sadly

All specialists, 2 ions, gun and marker drone

Ah interesting, that's great to hear!

So am I!

For the recon drone shenanigans

Yes 👀

They come in each army book release for every box or yearly annual

@@CanYouRollaCrit smashing cheers. Getting into kill team recently and want to pick a few teams to learn and field

Ah nice, that's great to hear! Happy to be of help (:

Thanks! Issue is they still have enough firepower with Breachers. Just can loxk so much outta the game

Always hope 😂

It includes all of that

Just gotta maximise shooting angles, but hard to trade with 11 wounds

@@CanYouRollaCritAny particular load outs to steer to/avoid? Oh well sometimes that’s just your lot in life 😅

You'll deffo have fun with them, a great team! Hopefully it balances out again in 3 months aha

Im in the same boat

Yup, way too strong

You gotta BELIEVE!!!

Skill issue. I got the same problem but I taught myself how to roll crit!

Everyone in S Tier 🫠

Eldar Pirates yaaaaaring tonight!

How so?

Nids be good, very good skew matchups but lots of really bad ones 😅

@@CanYouRollaCrit any tips on which are which?

5 stealers and 8 Gants on ITD. Stealers have some of the best shooting, 2+ with splash and therefore lethal 5, it’s just so dangerous.

Just (un?)lucky I suppose!

lmao fair enough I think I am just missing how to use those 2 teams properly@@CanYouRollaCrit

Yeah elites being fun and playable is nice to see

Yeahhh...at least you got Vet Guard 😅

GK are D, Nids C

With marines in D

Yeah but you're relying on a swingy 4+ invun

With their additional defensive ploy and command re-roll they are highly unlikely to give you the negative end of "swingy" vs completely shutting down a Plasma Gun shot that should have evaporated any other Marine. You play Tzeentch, save all your CP for defensive measures, and then kill their AP2 weapons in retaliation. Your big weakness is Legionary in that situation is actually melee. Without Nurgle's tricks you take too much damage in melee exchanges.

Ah can only do that once per Turning Point sadly

Yes you're right 👍🏻. If only...😂

As a new player, just learn the game. Intercession squads are great for learning the game and getting better. For casual play, the tier lists don't matter much. Intercession will serve you well and be a ton of fun.

Intercession bros are the best

Should check the latest tier list 👀🥲

Lower 😭

D Tier and they dooo

Ah thanks, I really appreciate it (:

It was 100% due to balance, I'm pretty sure the devs even stated it in the last dataslate video

Methodical was no brain option every time since it conserved your CP, glad it got nerfed to only be good for ITD, but it's quite a shame there is no other good selections in this category

Yeh 100% should have been nerfed, literally was the best chapter tactic.

The whole concept of 10 Kasrkin being able to outshoot a unit of 6 Space Marines (much less Intercessors!) is just flat out ridiculous. I am starting to feel that the quarterly "rebalancing" is starting to be just shaking things up for the sake of shaking them up, not actually improving the game-play. This is the same problem with 40K "codex inflation" going all the way back to 2e. But it is now happening 4x per year and it is not about "army builds" becoming invalid, but about rules being changed that allow you to do (or not do...) something that was (by many?) assumed to be a "thought out" (ROTFL!!!) function of that faction.

See, I understand the logic of taking issue with Methodical initially being an auto-take chapter tactic, but considering the teams after and around them, I'm on the side of it's a design issue on the part of the rest of the chapter tactics that they aren't as appealing. Chainswords are middling despite 4/5 damage with no other rules and the other chapter tactics are too limiting or win-more (especially the melee-oriented ones that do nothing for shooting).

It's...ironic 😎

Sure because of months of practice and experience, but I also said things may end up differently in the video as well

@@CanYouRollaCrit Sure but everyone who plays kill team competitively has that experience and there's about 3 good solutions to any given balancing problem. I'm just worried the game makers behind kill team might jump the gun doing balancing on your advice because you have an audience. There are so few people like you on youtube doing work like this to inform the decision makers behind the game this is now a problem for the community as a whole. You're smart, but being smart doesn't produce results as well as community collaboration does.

It's just my opinion, I have no sway on game design or balance. If the devs do follow my suggestions then it's probably because they've tested it out themselves and agreed

@@CanYouRollaCrit As they should but after seeing them on Warhammer tv, I have doubts.

Dead

@@CanYouRollaCrit oh.... But why? Im new in wh40k world and still learning 😅

​@@AKRIT11they dont have rules for kill team, despite their name, they are only a 40k unit for the forseeable future

@@MrHinchapelotas Thank u so much

They're not the most broken but up there 😂 VG are fine on BD imo

With Marines

boo :( @@CanYouRollaCrit

D Tier sadly

I did? Video is always gonna be more in-depth than the article

@@CanYouRollaCrit not trying to be rude. Just some constructive criticism. Here's an example of things I think could be better. Your explanation of d Tier: "D Tier - Bad kill teams. Weak due to either poor rules or mechanics. Unlikely to win with, commonly going 1 win and 3 losses at an event." But here is your description of a team in the tier. "Aeldari: With the extra body rule, all Eldar kill teams still remain good. Just not as powerful as their bespoke alternatives. Except Dire Avengers, for some reason?" So are Eldar good per the description or bad per the tier? "Sisters of Battle: Remain exactly the same too, a very solid kill team." Same with your description of sisters. A "very solid kill team" in the bad kill team tier seems kind of confusing. Also next paragraph" "Sisters of Battle: Remain exactly the same too, a very solid kill team.Heretic Astartes: Honestly thought these would get removed now we have Legionary and Blooded but still solid. 3 CSM and 8 Cultists still has some play. Just no as good when compared to either bespoke kill team." You combined the two on accident so. Maybe there's some Copy and paste issues. I get it. They are far down the tier list Just some things I think could be addressed.

About as drunk as you when you made that comment doubting Novitiates 😂

@@CanYouRollaCrit I never played any other faction then Noviciates but 7 HP on every specialist put them in B tier :) this team is to soft and it's very easy to play against. You mostly win because you opponent don't know all sisters rules :)

I dunno man, they have amazing dice mods and can negate shooting. 7w means nothing if you never fails saves