+Pete Shirey Hah... appreciate it.

42:44 is where that part is.

+antoyal That's very accurate. Or like a "resource".

Thank you. I fear we may lose you all to a dark place if you set down the path of giving this the ITB treatment! Probably worth it though.

Did your gaming group at Inside the Box manage to get a copy ? it's very expensive though. I know they are doing a relaunch edition for Kickstarter Black Friday time 2016.

+Samuel VanDyke Totally agree. He did an awesome job!

+fran arce Yep. I try to stay out of, "Is this game worth $X?" That's one question I will never be able to answer. Is this game good or bad? I can try to answer that one.

+Drive Thru Review Well.. I shouldn't say never. Obviously there is comparison within a given niche. I did specifically compare Brimstone and KD price-wise... but generally I like to avoid that quagmire.

+Drive Thru Review That's true. It is especially difficult when you're comparing one game's price to the combined price of several other games. You can only play one game at a time, after all. But if you choose the one game then hopefully it will either have a lot of variety or will be inherently interesting enough to you that you'll want to play it a lot.

Thanks Joachin.

Thank you. I appreciate it!

Thanks Benjamin!

+rabidduck457 Thanks for the feedback. I took a look at it last night and couldn't figure out where to edit the video down. I'm happy with it. It's way way longer than I like a video to be. That's awesome to hear you really got into the assembly aspects.

It does. I just use the term as a shield so I don't take it too seriously. Honestly, I use it for just about any form of fantasy or sci-fi. I don't know why Lord of the Rings or Marvel movies get a pass. It's just as "juvenile" as Kingdom Death or 40k. I'll also use the term "pulp" or "Ameritrash". It basically just covers stuff that is so far divorced from reality as to not withstand much scrutiny from a stodgy point of view. I still enjoy all of the above though. :)

@@DriveThruReview Disagree about 40k as a whole being as "juvenile" as Marvel. Honestly something like Marvel shouldn not be in the same sentence as LOTR or 40k. 40k nowadays has a deeply evolved universe with classics like the Ravenor or Eisenhorn series + quite some others. The lore itself is strong and exceeds classic villain / good guy by far and touches aspects like how a saecular or religious society develops, how morals are often a cultural point of view...etc. It has layer above layer in meaning contrary to Marvel..etc which is really just low level entertaining for the masses. Regarding sexuality and how it is perceived that really is a cultural and political thing. Quite some people nowadays are more puritan about their body. They love watching horror even torture movies but are offended by a boob. I accept that but its a highly distorted view of reality which ends in people equalizing sexuality with sexism. Nudity and sexuality are as natural as it gets. In that KD:M can give us a very focused drawback on human conditioning and what Siegmund Freud called the "id". And again regarding juvenile I get you dont meant that in a pejoratively way but the reason I disagree with this is because I dont see the "far divorce from reality" In its overstylized artistic language it connects to us in several instances. Thats imo why people buy and play it. They feel this connection. sorry for my english. not a native speaker and some words may be wrong. Appreciate your channel as you always try to give a diverse picture of a game and sometimes transcend the gamers perspective. have a nice day

I agree with you excluding Tarantino.

+Kevin Erskine Honestly, this is way better than those 2. I would even consider to sell both just to get this.

Kickstarter starting Black Friday 2016 end of next week (I think)

+Khaador Shoot benwax a Geekmail on BGG. I'm sure he'd be happy to answer any questions.

+sam newman Good to know. Thanks Sam.

For 400+$ is the gameplay just fine or actually good? Because otherwise it's just a meh game with great production value for a ton of money.

That is just not at all true. I see this comparison everywhere and I just don't see it. Dark Souls you have complete control and anything that happens to you is because of you. You didn't dodge at the right time etc etc The game continually coaches you to learn how to play and beat it (It's overrated on its "difficulty"). KDM Is about rolling dice and only being able to slightly mitigate possibility of failing a role. But at the end of the day this is just a game about the luck of the dice.

@@VagrantShadow I think its more like darkest dungeon with the randomness

+Wei-Yu Chen Very interesting comparison. I'd not thought of that, but that makes sense. I've forgotten about those games, but that would be a cool theme for such a system.

+Kristo Vaher Have not tried that one.

+Michael Ng Once you build the minis, they are built. You never lose gear though really, so it's not that big of an issue if you transfer weapons to a new character. The armor might not match up exactly or maybe they only have one weapon of the type or something. It will be "close enough".

+Drive Thru Review So i guess this is because the actual equipment and stats is on the cards, so the aim of the miniatures' gear representation is more of "get as close" so that I don't get confused which is which?

+Michael Ng Right. Or you could just build your favorite looking survivor and just use that all the time regardless of gear.

+Michael Ng One thing that a few maniacs are doing with this game is to put little magnets at the major joints of the characters. It requires hollowing out a space for the magnet, sort of creating a ball joint. I think that this is more common in dedicated miniatures games like Warhammer, but it does allow you to "reset" or modify your character miniatures in this game. I am not handy enough or dedicated enough to go that route though, so I would just opt for creating character archetypes. Dude with the two-hander, chick with the spear... that kind of thing.

+Matthew Ham I'm not 100% sure. I think there are some plans. I believe at least they are gauging interest.

+Matthew Ham I heard he is going to have copies at Gen Con this year. This is my #1 game to get at Gen Con.

+jeffrey mook If any of the expansions are there as well i suggest you pick them up to because they are amazing expansions and difficult to get.

Malcom Alexander Berserk is the best. Big reason I'm interested in this game.

+PoVisko ;D

Go ahead! After just one compaign you are easily into to.

Azhier Radak It depends if you like building and painting minis. If you do, I’d recommend soloing it.

In my opinion, this is the perfect game to play solo. I don´t want to share this nightmare with anyone. It´s only me, and the darkness... I also don´t want anybody to see me crying xD

@@uluairi More than a fair point right there.

@@DriveThruReview I never paint minis and i never build minis but i dont wanna play anything else in the pc, i start to play some small boardgames this months and its really different, its more... sane in a way and fun to me now. Im worried about to build the minis really, but fuck it, i have a lot of time so no problem, it will be a challenge to build all those minis, thanx for the video, the answer and the channel.

@@uluairi make me laugh hard, and yes seems like that type of game, i dont wanna share it to

+Nichik Gameplay looked pretty mediocre from the little bit I browsed.

+Drive Thru Review Yeah, and there's a distinct lack of information / reviews as well. Reason I've asked is that the two get compared in the comments section often. But this is likely due to the price point more than anything else, I think.

+Drive Thru Review +Nichik Not really similar games, from what I can tell. DS reminds me of Gears of War: The Board Game, which isn't a bad thing but definitely not in the same league as KDM in terms of systems variety & variability. More DS gameplay information has popped up here (re: the exploration aspect): www.kickstarter.com/projects/steamforged/dark-soulstm-the-board-game/posts/1556959 And via a few AMA sessions that have resulted in a FAQ: steamforged.com/dark-souls-faq Zero campaign, though.

+Paul Bauman Well, card-driven fighting giant bosses is in both. Not saying if it's good or bad though.

He doesn't. But, you find him as Ben Waxman on BGG. His image contributions will be on his profile.

I've moved it along. We stuck with Shadows of Brimstone for our over-the-top-epic-long-never-ending dungeon dive campaign game. :)

Drive Thru Games do you think it's worth the cost for version 1.5 currently at $400?

That's tricky. If you're going to spend the time and effort to paint everything up and are for sure going to have time to set it aside to either play it solo or with a committed group, I'd say it's worth it. It's an excellent system with an amazing outrageous theme. Maybe get folks to chip in on it.

I have yes.

And now it's over $500. There are some lucky people out there who got everything for $100.

yeah I just couldn't justify, it didn't have the replay that I needed at the time. I wouldn't mind trying it out.

There is actually a Darksouls board game being published this year :)

I do hope to at least try it. Not sure when/how it's being released.

Please accept this formal apology.

+David Pellegrini It seems to be very high quality, but I'm also confused about why they chose to go this high end. Like I said in an earlier comment, if the game is good, they can reduce the quality of the components and still have a good game. I'm guessing that their marketing strategy is similar to companies that sell expensive cars. In the board game world, this is a Rolls Royce. I don't blame them for trying, but I wonder how financially successful they will be.

+The Grim Jester (Chris Donovan) Ya. i don't think the one to many price comparison is quite apt. You could also buy like 200 fillers for the same price. You are paying for that unique boutique experience. The minis in none of those games are as details as this game... nor as customizable. A couple of those are great games. Brimstone is probably the closest comparison. And yes, when you look at that across the board. You can get ALL of the Brimstone items for the same price. And that's a real interesting comparison imo. They have a lot in common but are also very different... as I talked about in the review ;)

They have a second Kick Starter with reprints and additions and they raised over 4 Million in the first 24 hours. The quality of the game and components are the goal vs making a mass marketed game. Basically Creator gets to explore his artistic and creative desire with out having the business aspect get in the way of what he wants in the game.

Simply STUNNING. Nothing comes close. Experience alone is worth admission. NOTHONG LIKE IT AND LIKELY NOTHING WILL COME CLOSE FOR SOME TIME.

Is it possible to still get this game or am i too late?