Who's to say if it's even safe inside Riku?

"What?"

Ever time I listen to someone recap Kingdom Hearts stories, I want to slap Nomura upside the head.

I'm so sorry

You’re an amazing speaker, please keep the content coming. I’ll keep sharing it.

"Nomura was drunk one night" is what I suddenly think everytime something dumb happens in this franchise.

"nomura was sad-drunk the night vs13 was taken from him. so, he rewrote his plot, made knockoff characters and forced them into KH's narrative"

Dreq the Dreck lmaoooooooo i’m glad people are seeing this

@@Dreq458 *nu uh!* 😠 ................................... that’s totally what happened 😂

I love that this is the one game that we know for a fact he was drunk when he came up with it, if this is one example we can prove just image the ones that we can't but definitely were drunk ideas.

no it doesnt

Add the that it’s during the purgatory of quarantine much like this game is the purgatory of the series story and it’s a conspiracy.

I had to Google

Is this a joke 😭😂😭

@Grima the Fell Dragon which is funny because everyone I've talked to has praised the gameplay (NOT the story) as one of the best handheld games, and honestly I've only rented it at my local video game store, but the few hours I've played it was fun as fuck, I like the FF10-like progression system and it's one of the best implimentations of the command deck. Abilities are cool too. A bit repetitive though

I haven’t even played much of it, it was that boring.

@@joshshrum2764 i think he reffers to the fact that alice goes to wonderland just in a dream in the original movie

I've never liked Wonderland so of course it ended up in the DS games. (and actually some of the new areas were all right)

coincidental* i think

“surely we’ve learned from our mistakes and can’t mess this up any more!” Dream Drop Distance: shit story, decent gameplay

kh3:yeet until remind gives it good gameplay

LPFan 😂😂 i was very happy with base kh3’s combat but yeah remind update was life changing, miles better

@@JackkChaos Wait, remind updated the gameplay of KH3? In what way?

@@paledrake Did you not play Remind?

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Just to know, foreshadows what in dream drop distance? anyway, i think this idea just fortified the idea in kingdom hearts than anything can have a heart while it connects with something.

The unliving thing getting the heart is interesting but it is kinda shame that the series doesn't seem to do much with that idea except excuse same character model used for retellings.

@@Ayurai it foreshadows that nobodies (similar in the way they lack hearts) had the potential to grow their own hearts. It was another hint towards that twist.

Im pretty sure that maleficent also mentions the book of prophecies in this game so I guess that's also kinda important? Not much besides that though

Ok I Believe You

I'd like a moment to bring this up, because I feel like a lot of fans forget that this is a thing and I feel like I need to say this: A lot of people pointed out Sora's kind of a jerk in kh2 because he treats Organization 13 like dirt even though they're technically people because they're technically people and they're capable of expressing emotion. So the idea of Sora being apathetic to them is unfair and makes Sora comes off as this really rude person. And you might be right that he is a jerk for dehumanizing them. But here's the thing: let's pretend that the events of kh:reCoM were a thing in kh2- Like he still retains memories of Castle Oblivion and everything that happened in it. By the time he meets Yen Sid and he informs of OrganizationXIII he finally gets to know names of the mysterious robed people he's met, and I would impose that first impressions are super important, because what his impression upon meeting some of them in castle Oblivion? -One of them manipulates a girl into tampering with Sora's memories (even if she doesn't want to) in an attempt to make him an obedient weapon as part of their plan to stage a coup against their leader and threatens to destroy the girl if Sora doesn't comply. -Another one makes an EXACT duplicate of his best friend who is nearly indistinguishable to the original: which not only does the duplicate turn hostile to him when they meet, but ends up accepting the darkness, making Sora feel like he failed to stop Riku from accepting the darkness, while simultaneously is forced to fight his best friend again over Namine (Only this time it appears he's not under influence of Ansem and it is of his own volition making the fight much more intense) -Another one viciously torments and mocks him at every opportunity, being the one break it to him that said girl and his best friend are really fake people, and that his memories (which he feels are genuine things at the time) are also a product of their machinations. -Another one coldly kills another one of their members in cold blood right in front of Sora, for the surface motive of talking too much and shutting him up for good to prevent Sora from knowing too much about their plans, EVEN when said member was begging for his life before being killed. With that being said, I can't help but feel they kind of dropped the ball with that ending for CoM, because Sora had a justifiable hostility towards Org13, they just didn't want to make CoM canon at the time. tl:dr while Sora being cruel towards Org13's members seems unwanted and comes off as, for lack of a better world, racist, I wanted to push that he technically does have a justifiable reason for his genuine dislike for Org13 and that's because of how the other member treated him back in Castle Oblivion. It's just that for some reason, the devs chose not make chain of memories canon at the time, most likely back when they thought the hand held games didn't need to have important story related stuff in their game, before they realized that was bad, and now all handheld and non-numerical entry games are important and now canon.

Kagata It’s justified in the context of the game, but in hindsight given what we learn about Nobodies and the individuals in the Organisation it seems crueller. Even just the idea that Nobodies grow hearts to replace the ones they lost makes them more tragic, since that was the hook Xemnas gave them for joining up in the first place. At this point Axel is the most fleshed out character besides Roxas in the Organisation, being more of a wild card in Castle Oblivion (pun unintended) and spending KH2 following his own agenda. Rescuing Roxas from the simulation isn’t just a mission for Axel, he’s got emotional investment and is legitimately upset and disappointed when Roxas doesn’t have full recollection of Axel and the Organisation.

I commend your passion for the franchise! Unfortunately I feel, no I know you're reading way too much into this and that's not fair to yourself since you're putting way more effort into writing a good story than the people that sold you the game.

@@BasicXrazor To add on, Sora did have Roxas inside him all throughout KH2 and Roxas lingering resentment towards the Organization may been influencing his behavior. DiZ even says it before Sora awakens. _"You should share some of that hatred with Sora, he's far too nice for his own good"_ I'd like to imagine that Sora's open hostility towards the Organization might have in part been Roxas doing.

@@meteornome2556 In what way do you think he influenced Sora though? Sora always told the ORG they weren't real because they're nobodies, but Roxas is a nobody. So are you saying that after Roxas' acceptance he just saw every nobody as nothing, like him? (At least until he had the final talk with Namine) Or are you saying Roxas just disliked the ORG and Sora just rationalized disliking them as "Well it's because they're unnatural." Since he didn't know about Roxas.

I agree. Re:Coded are for the fans who are interested in a new different gamplay within the KH franchise.

Playing Kingdom Hearts for the story in the first place is a mistake.

@@varkster6860 I will politely disagree, I really enjoy the story in the games

@@HybridAngelZero Playing a game for the story and enjoying the story in said game are two very different things.

@@varkster6860 That's fair

I have the feeling you can do a PhD thesis about the plot of this game, because wtf is going on here.

Stef van Schie for the longest time i thought that this franchise was a fever dream, then I found out about the HD collection only to find out that my memory is much more reliable then I thought

FromHerotoZero yeah, actually this was my first KH game and i didn’t get that confused, i would believe it from games like kh2 if you haven’t played the other’s or dream drop distance

@@thefreshkingofbel1179 Well you've got one over me then. I played the first one first and even then I had NO idea what was going on

FromHerotoZero classic kh affair

Yea u have no brain cells

@@TEEZY105 Yeah u have no brain cells

Same here, this is my only game in the series I've played but it's lucky I got this one because it's the gameplay I really enjoy. One/Zero is also pretty neat, yeah. The Targeting Scope feels really nifty, though currently my favourite to use is the Metal Chocobo. It lets you take 4 physical upgrades in a row, Impact Arts, Attack Upgrade, Full Swing and All Critical; and when I read that apparently Judgement Triad is a good boss killer I went into Castle Oblivion's Score Attack fully clocked and unintentionally beat it in about 0.85 seconds. Also I like to grind the Invisible outside Olympus Coliseum, and with just level 2 clock and 65% HP cheat a normal attack will one-shot the invisible so I don't have to rely on whatever commands I'm trying to fill with CP to kill

I remember loving the data scape challenges, they were so replayable and fun, most of them were just arenas to fight strong enemies with certain conditions that made the fight more fun to play I also loved Data Sora's personality, how he knew he wasn't real but still wanted to humbly help Mickey it was also such a nice change of pace since I played it just after Days, that I considered terrible gameplay wise, the mission system simply didn't worked

This comment is based and true

thebigchungus 451 Even though I didn’t know this despite having heard of TWEWY, I’m glad Re:Coded uses a similar system. Getting to the Platinum Toad and getting the best rewards is so much easier if you are willing to mess with some of the modifiers. All RPGs should have a similar system to address tedious grinding.

Absolutely my dude

There's actually a really great exploit with the stat matrix. Crank up all the "game harder but better reward" options to max. Trust me. Now you're going to have 10% of your life left. Crank DOWN the max HP setting until you have 2hp left. See where i'm getting at? Every single enemy in the game will have a tiny fraction if their health remaining and turn into loot piñatas. If an enemy ever sneaks a hit in on you, cast esuna (heals and clears status effects) then 2 shot them. The Once-More abilities make you unable to take a fatal blow and Leaf Bracer allows you to always heal when casting esuna. Now you can dedicate the entire rest of your deck into ridiculous and overpowered BS and once you get good enough, can even take heal commands off your deck entirely.

BreakDamageLimit The Book of Prophecies thing was only added in 2.5 tho. Before that, Maleficent and Pete were there for no reason other than "take over the world with darkness"

@@cillbipher2613 They were looking for something specifically in Castle Oblivion in the DS version, which Maleficent mentions is a Book of some sort.

BreakDamageLimit ...did she? I don't remember that at all. Besides, weren't the Maleficent and Pete in the Castle Oblivion sections just fake memory versions?

Possible reason why Nomura wanted to give an answer despite Tron being in the series: Most of the Disney characters come with a lot of restrictions regarding how they're used in Kingdom Hearts. Maybe Nomura couldn't do what he wanted with Tron and used coded's story to explore the idea without the limitations. Another possibility: Nomura likes to use Disney characters to parallel Kingdom Hearts characters in certain ways (he wanted to include a Pinocchio world in 358/2 Days to draw parallels between Pinocchio and Roxas and Xion), maybe he intended to do the same with Tron at some point.

@@thedothackerkeyblademaster I cannot imagine disney being *that* restrictive tho. All they needed to do was to reference the events in KH3 to not mention recoded instead.

The_Echo This is what I mean. I love this game, and I get badgered about it. It’s my first game in the series, so I have a soft spot for it. The gameplay is top notch for a DS game, so being the one that is hated the most for not being lore heavy enough is just wrong. It’s like a nice refreshing break from the lore chaos that is KH.

It should be noted that I let the game "be what it is" and what it is... well, it's not for me, and it's not for a lot of people. Instead of wondering why so many people dislike it, I think it'd be more productive and more interesting if a fan of it (such as yourself) were to defend it. You've clearly taken something away from it that I simply couldn't, and that's a valuable perspective I'd be interested in hearing.

@@KingKlonoa Well the problem is I don't think it needs defending. It's a great game with fun, satisfying combat, unprecedented customization for the franchise, plenty of postgame and optional content to sink your teeth into, and in my opinion a story that is actually pretty good. But everyone dismisses the game out of hand, and many do not even bother to play it for themselves (or even just watch the 2.5 version) because it's "the one that doesn't matter." I think that's a really shitty attitude to have. It does a disservice to the game itself and to the players who wind up missing out on something fun, which is kind of the point of video games. You clearly recognized the merits of its gameplay and systems, but you let your disinterest in the story sour the entire experience for you. I get being a story-first player, but even so I don't understand it.

April Fools?

@@the_echoYT dude the game sucked. It was a better gameplay version of days mixed with some bbs in there, but other than that its a trash handheld made for kids who didn't play kh1 cause they werent born yet. Those who played the kh1 and other parts of the series know recoded is just another wanna be kh1 that clarifies a tiny thing in the main story that didn't need to be clarified. Basically, without recoded the series wouldn't be better or worse. Its literally a side game of the series

"I've been having these weird thoughts lately..."

*#lolz*

Also man I'm sad that the Re:Coded website is replaced to a referral page :(

Because days' story is not about action, but it's a tragedy

*#lolz*

using a big key sword with light powers makes me go "ee ooh ooh ah, not clayton"

Also, Roxas shows Data-Sora the Disney characters he met but forgot so he understands him forgetting Xion

Most of the connections aren't even that tight that they add much to the experience. I'd rather take interesting standalone story which deepens the world than bland fetch-quest which moves plot forward.

LuigiQ Indeed, except for the Castle Oblivion part, in which the story is essentially a coda to Roxas, proving he himself “was a good other.” At least until he reappears, mostly for plot points in III...

same. Hollow bastion was great.

The gameplay was way better then BBS / 3D.

Kord Kitsugi Agreed

Yeah, I like the gameplay, too.

I meant kinda like cpu in recoded at the end my bad

@@mohammedal-mustafamirghani5010 the keyblade levelupQsystem that carried over was the khux one tho

LPFan I mean the idea of leveling up keyblades not the way you level up keyblades was first introduced in this entry and then carried to future entries with a bit of tweaking.

+ the darkubes look like the bug blox

I feel the same! It's a fun game, honestly :>

Sora-Rex Kairi-Pyra Naminé-Mythra I think UX is overtaking its spot as black sheep.

@@cillbipher2613 Not really, at least not in my experience. Whenever I see Union χ brought up in conversation, people seem to be more interested in what's going on with it (or they're just indifferent to it). As far as negative reactions go, the worst I see it get is mild frustration. With Re:coded, people seem to outright hate it and call it the worst game in the franchise.

@@thedothackerkeyblademaster People probably seem more interested in UX because the story is more impactful, and because the global devs are ridiculously lazy. Is it too much to just share servers with the JP version and translate the dialogue? They're literally the same game, same engine. It isn't too much to just import the code from JP and translate the text. If Cygames/Nintendo can do it with Dragalia Lost, why can't Spare Kleenex do it?

I can play every KH game on my smartphone, thanks to ps remote. ALL KH games are mobile now.

gameplay wise yes. days gameplay sucked, com on gba wasn't bad but still cards, ddd was eh, and bbs has more versatility in terms of bosses. but not a hot take mostly fax

I love DDD just love jumping all over with flowmotion, exploring world as Riku and Sora, deciding when to switch between them (drop me nots make being spat out mid boss a non issue) and I love the combat, just wish the story wasn't so dumb aside from Sora's characterisation which is one of my favourite sora depictions

@@mattyluvspokemon08 Hard disagree on the Sora characterization part, I honestly think that all post-KH2 Sora portrayals feel like a lobotomised version.

Same here it’s really fun but I definitely like dream drop bette

I’m the same way. Yeah, it may be pointless, but I enjoyed the story while playing it & I had such a fun time playing the game on the DS

@Zach Edwards depends on what you call a game. The original Kingdom Hearts Mobile wasn't canon either.

@Zach Edwards I didn't mean Union X, I meant the game called "Kingdom Hearts Mobile." en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_Mobile

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