nah

i know your ass doesnt play “monopoly go” karsten. i see how dead you are inside when you talk about it.

What the heck does that have to do with the most boring monkey movie ever

99😅and 😅you will 😅😊​@@Alfenium

Let's go

Would’ve enjoyed a bit more when we get to Proximus to flesh out his “kingdom” but yeah, it’s just a beautiful movie and I’m bummed my favorite characters in it probably won’t return.

But that’s what makes the Apes franchise (so far) different than its peers like Star Trek and Star Wars, it’s largely unexplored expanded universe and a lack of story wide main characters or families. Also, it’s a series that is not afraid to be a downer in a proto-Game of Thrones way.

Amen! I loved the first hour of the movie, didn't care much for the next hour or so. And I did like the slow pacing. I only got bored when they got to Proximus' camp. That's where the plot took a wrong turn for me, it became very standard and predictable, compared to what could have been. More Proximus, more intersting plot, more meaningful storyline. The boss fight was really nicely done though.

@@ximono agreed I was super interested in proximus and the culture he was trying to create and wish we spent more time with him than with the standard human storyline

@@penndavis471 Proximus was a horrible tyrannical despot though, so I don't think I would want to see much more of the culture he was building. But as a character I think he was really interesting and could have made the story more original than it was.

Democratic nation-state of the supercontinent of the underground rebellion of the eastern sea tombolo of the planet of the apes.

Republican country of the city of the nation-state of the supercontinent of clan of the society of the Bermuda triangle of the planet of the apes

*County

Socialist Democratic Republic of the Planet of the Apes

Enough of the Planet of the Apes.

Nice! And wasn't Julius Caesar killed by multiple stab wounds just like Proximus died being pecked to death (kind of)

Interesting.

@@DidYounisMeOh, yeah! Man, this film continues to be more interesting than I first thought it would be.

@@DidYounisMeyeh that’s why Caesar was shot by koba, betrayed by his ally

Yeah... Kinda sad we can just tell

​@FlyingFocs why is it sad Dune 2 effects are stunning

as it should, Dune 2 visuals are standard-defining

It probably will but god did that final fight between Noa and Proximus look amazing

Denis does it to the Apes again

„slow cinema“

Most movies especially franchise movies are rarely less than 2 hours long nowadays but I get what you mean, the pacing and attention to plot detail was really refreshing compared to other films

Funny how less than 2 weeks later Furiosa came out which is also focused on world building and is over 2 hours long.

Same

Same.

So glad I wasn’t the only one

RIGHT

believed this for a while til I saw a screenshot from a press junket they did and thought: "Why's he white?"

he looked so sad lmao

Why he would choose to partner with a proven scam company is crazy

Must've been the only company he could get to sponsor him or something lol

@@MattGOG666how is monopoly go a scam game 😂

@@MattGOG666paycheck, CCs need to support themselves as well and add revenue isn’t that much.

Too bad bro came preached, died then his message kinda went nowhere

@@lewdleaf4975he ain’t dead it’s an obvious fake out

​@@lewdleaf4975his death was a message in itself. He represented peace between apes and humans but without him noa and Mae are likely to become enemies

@hefoughtabear118 I know and that's what's frustrating. I thought the movie would take an alternate route and have Noa knowing the knowledge Raka told him to preach to his fellow apes under Proximus rule. However I do understand not rely to much on the past trilogy which I like from the film. It kinda can stand on its own

@@lewdleaf4975 end credits has him laughing so he lived

Yeah, whenever the plot was moving "slowly" I was just taking it all in and trying to piece together the lore in my head.

I was left wanting more . I thought the pacing was fine. I honestly just want to see more tribes and different kingdoms run by apes , different territories, i really enjoyed the film, and hope they can expand on Noas arch , I reckon somehow down the line they’ll say that Noa is a descendant of Ceaser.

​@@heisenberg7069bro had the exact same scar

@@lewdleaf4975birthmark, but yes.

I just thought it was over all fine but not as good as it could have been.

Yep as someone who binged all the last movies before this one I was expecting them to reference the last few movies a lot. But im glad they do but very minimally since it’s been 300 years since Caesar which obviously his history happened awhile ago so not alot of people talk about him.

@@spoiledsalad1851 exactly I binged all of them too, well said

I felt like every scene was necessary and it didn’t lull you to sleep because it honestly went by fast. But I believe the lead up to meeting Proximus and his kingdom had you expecting so much. The kingdom seemed scattered and not put together at times. For apes to have been ruling that long and to now be enslaving and killing other apes, you’d think there would be more of a focus on the sheer size and strength of Proximus’ army. As well as a glimpse on how he ruled. It was also much too easy for Noa to successfully destroy what they had built imo.

@@damonhunter5215 I do wish they focused on the kingdom aspect. Maybe Proximus somehow survived. I think he would be a good villain even if he lived. Seeing an ape who’s twisting the words of Caesar is very interesting.

I agree! When my boyfriend and I went in to watch, we didn’t even realize that time flew by when we finished. Movie was very entertaining.

agreed didnt feel so slow to me very enjoyable to see some easter eggs too

Which will be a perfect retelling of the original story...

@@yumallah exactly:)

Yes, slow can be good. It's not _too_ slow, it's just taking its time.

@@ximono I'm curious how you felt about the pacing of The Batman? I still can't decide if its pacing was great or too slow.

@@ComedyBros5 Same 🙂

@@ComedyBros5 I'd say it's fine... until they catch the Riddler, then you start to feel it.

@@FlyingFocs Yes, I think that perfectly describes it. I see why that ending was done, but it also caused there to almost be 2 climaxes, and the final climax just felt out of left field (even though there were so many incredibly shots in it).

Agree, it did have a LOTR feel to it at times. Roadmovie worldbuilding.

Embarrassing that anyone over 14 could like this movie

i wouldnt say it was slow but imo it was a little too long

@@rickyrougs I guess its different for everyone, I thought the pacing was fine

Ikr this makes me not take him serious lol

aimless is more accurate

I literally almost fell asleep halfway through. It’s had no direction.

Bro THAT WOULD BE FIRRE

I believe Amazon already owns the film rights for Horizon, so is hypothetically possible

Horizon is basically the Zelda of Sony.

@@HBarnillExcept Zelda is actually good Horizon is a boring open world game without any real charm or substance

That makes a lot more sense than Zelda, ngl. I see Zelda as a mix of Miyazaki, Lord of the Rings, and 80s fantasy like Dark Crystal. To be fair, I can't immediately think of anyone who could do that combo well

It really didnt feel slow to me. People just dont watch any arthouse movies

@@jens2049okay, you’re 100% a troll, calling this Arthouse is like calling “the marvels” Arthouse. You’ve got brain damage

He was such a good character. Very surprised they seemed to have killed him off, but hopefully that means they have more and better things planned for the sequels.

​@@vresnuil I hope someway he survived. I get the symbolism between eagles and Rome. And how poetic it was that he wanted to be immortal n yet. He dies imo in the most disney movie way

Yes I agree, maybe 15 or 20 minutes more about him and his kingdom. Still a great movie nonetheless.

@@lewdleaf4975I mean he dies in a nearly identical way to Koba

@@lewdleaf4975we see him falling into the water and i feel like it would be kind of bullshit to have him live falling off a massive cliff,

If Karsten hasn't seen it already he should watch the Simpsons parody of King Kong! The 'King Homer' segment in Treehouse of Horror III (season 4, episode 5) Only like seven minutes long. It's pretty funny, from the golden age of The Simpsons

You’re so easy to please. The music is so manipulative in that scene, I was genuinely thinking “who does that even work on”, guess we found the answer

A world we’ve seen a million times, but this time, the characters are way duller

The terrible dialogue, bad music and bad acting really did it for ya huh?

@@samb8744 dunno what scene you’re talking about but there was literally no dialogue in the beginning and the music was the same soundtrack used in war lmao

this coming from the same guy who watches a “monkey movie” every weekend and has only watched like two actual movies w monkeys

I had my doubts cuz these past years movie have just started digging up big name series and giving them a sequel, but those new sequels just feel like a cashgrab with no soul.

Las tres primeras películas de Kung fu panda fueron grandiosas la última

First one fine, second one good but crazy-cliched, 3rd one was pandering and dull, but this one was the worst by far. Thor Live and Thunder levels of cringe

Right? I mean, the way he spoke about it, I thought it would be slower than it was. Bit too long, maybe, but not slow.

Right. Wtf does bro want. Does he even watch arthouse film?

I honestly though it started moving too fast by the time Proximus was introduced and I would have like to see some slice of life during that time

Not slow but I still didn’t like it. Aimless and shallow

@@FlyingFocs Yeah, slow is more like how I would describe something like Blade Runner, not Planet of the Apes.

Pretty mid movie

Should

who cares id never watch a movie about drug adiccts hiding behind a conflict liek resource bring u money just what drug gangs think.

@@shaycormaic5365dune 2 is mid or Planet of the apes is mid?

Thank you :)

I don’t agree, I think Rise was very fast paced and only has the bare essentials it needs; if anything it’s too fast paced. It has scenes that combine two or more events into one, like Caesar’s mother breaking into the conference room in the beginning at the exact moment when James Franco’s character is pitching the drug to the board, a ridiculous coincidence and obviously done to save time. And there are many more examples like that. You couldn’t cut/speed up Rise much more without having it feel too cartoony. With Kingdom you could have gotten rid of a lot of the eagle clan stuff, or killed off all the villagers except Noa, and it probably would have both shortened and improved the movie. With Rise I don’t think there’s anything you could have cut without hurting the film; if anythjng it needs more footage, like a scene where Caesar gives the drug to the zoo apes, which he must have done since they’re smart but they never show it.

Probably, but makes me sad. I enjoyed this movie way more. Don’t get me wrong, Dune was very well made, but I just didn’t find it nearly as fun or exciting.

It’s an embarrassing kiddy film

proximus was menacing i guess? but he was also pretty stupid in his actions, hes supposed to be smart but he acts like a moron for example at the end where he starts beating the shit out of noah which i can get but also his entire tribe is there like what did he think was going to happen

@@Spudster203 that and why did this mf not think about going AROUND the Bunker to get in?? Like wtf???

@@JYang0602 nahh bro i thought the exact same thing when they found the drainage or whatever, like its not that hidden there is is a literal like path on the cliff top to it, also we practically see nothing of the society hes created its all kind of brushed over

He gave it 3 stars on Letterboxd

He gave it 3/5

This movie was so average, nothing new, nothing interesting, just super safe. The fact that it came after a perfect trilogy makes it even worse. If you randomly pause in any scene from the previous three movies I guarantee you'll find something more interesting, compelling, creative and visually beautiful than anything in this one.

@@pietropietro5466i just watched the movie and i was genuinly bord in the middle of it, theres was so much stuff that wasnt fleshed out. I thought it was gonna go a competely different direction then what happened, the actual story couldve been way better then what we got.

Rn it’s growing

Still pissed they killed off roka for a weak thematic reason

​@@aidanchilton7899They didn't show either of their bodies so we can assume they'll return in the sequel, hopefully. Now I'm wondering who's the next group of villains gonna be. If it humans with same motivation of taking over the planet then it'll be repetitive.