History of the Thracians - Ancient Civilizations DOCUMENTARY

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Kings and Generals animated historical documentary series on the Ancient Civilizations continues with an episode on the ancient Thracians, as we discuss the primary sources talking about them, their geography, who were the Thracians, Archaic, Ancient, Hellenistic and Roman Thrace, as well as, Thracian Culture and Religion and Thrace in late Antiquity.
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@KingsandGenerals Ай бұрын

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@Autconscipatheonive Ай бұрын

@KingsandGenerals how do you make your maps? The one in the recent Caesar video seems really well made.

@KingsandGenerals Ай бұрын

@@Autconscipatheonive Photoshop and After Effects

@LM-pd6wj Ай бұрын

@@KingsandGenerals What do you think about making a video about the tocharian people?

@Mfoukos Ай бұрын

Hey King ! Can you do a video of diplomacy of Byzantine and ottomans? I was the one who requested from you to make a video for Chandax modern day Heraklion Crete

@Dylan-lw1xc Ай бұрын

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@abcdef27669 Ай бұрын

“Does your horses kick?” - Greek traveller. “No, but they bite when hungry…”. - King Diomedes of Thracia.

@rosennikolov6313 25 күн бұрын

GRECE ETHIOPIA 🇪🇹

@user-vf3pe9ce5x Ай бұрын

All we need now is a video on the dacians.

@user-rk8dm7ve6r Ай бұрын

Not sure how mach there is to tell about the Dacians, since the Romans ceased them off existence in such a stunning and effective way, though depressing!

@user-vf3pe9ce5x Ай бұрын

@@user-rk8dm7ve6r We go with what we have.

@MrDomitian Ай бұрын

@@user-rk8dm7ve6r Wrong mate, only few of more 50 tribes of dacians were subdue ( with tracians and getae is more 200 tribes with average army of 2-5000 warriors of each tribe ,bigest ones number over 10 000.fighters)

@gundabalf Ай бұрын

I can picture the comments from insane romanians now...

@gundabalf Ай бұрын

@@MrDomitian source?

@krasimiracle Ай бұрын

I'm from Bulgaria, the valley of the Thracian rulers, and I'm impressed with how many details you got right. Fun fact: the capital of Seuthes III, named Seuthopolis, is submerged under the Koprinka dam. It was attacked and burned by the Celts. The treasures left by the Thracians are incredible. Some of the most notable include: Valchitran Treasure: This treasure consists of gold and weighs about 12.5 kg. The most impressive fact is that it dates back to around 1300 BC. Having so much gold back then is truly spectacular. Rogozen Treasure: Weighing about 20 kg, this treasure includes incredibly beautiful silver items, some with gold plating, dating to around 400 BC. Panagiurishte Treasure: This is definitely the most beautiful and spectacular Thracian treasure. It consists of about 6 kg of 24-karat gold and dates to around 300-400 BC. Seeing it in person is incredible; I've visited many museums around the world, but this treasure is something different.

@everettduncan7543 Ай бұрын

Unfortunately their language is almost unknown, but is thought to have been related to Albanian

@nikolakorbuc3286 Ай бұрын

@@everettduncan7543 I'd reckon it was perhaps related to Dacian as well, about which we know equally little despite what some Romanian historians would like to claim. As for Proto-Albanian, I like to think it was a mixed Illyro-Thracian language, or perhaps Illyrian with a Thracian and later Latin adstratum to it.

@westsidermetalhead4997 Ай бұрын

@@sramanakarya The communists, it's always the communists. Didn't knew this but not surprised.

@everettduncan7543 Ай бұрын

@@nikolakorbuc3286 For what it's worth, an Illyrian tribe called the Albanoi by the Greeks was present in the territory of modern Albania, and the Messapic language, a known descendant or dialect of Illyrian, looks an awful lot like Albanian. Interestingly, Dacia like Thrace did come to follow Zalmoxism, suggesting their languages were related. Known Dacian words include botanical terms, none of which were borrowed into Romanian

@caniconcananas7687 Ай бұрын

@@westsidermetalhead4997 The communists in this occasion, the capitalists in others. It's just human greed. A short list of sad examples: - During the last decades soldiers from UN mission at Western Sahara have destroyed prehistoric remains of local cultures. - The government of Egypt did the same than the Bulgarian government when they built the Aswan damn on the Nile more than half a century ago. As the Egyptians requested technical assistance from other countries, they paid back with some of the ancient buildings about to be covered by the new artificial lake. That's the reason to have ancient Egyptian temples at New York, Madrid, Leiden and Turin. But these were just a few of the buildings. Another temples, forts and cemeteries are now under the water of lake Nasser. - The first Neanderthal fossils were discovered just by chance when some workers were digging out many tons of earth to extract some mineral. Do you know how many times mining companies, builders and farmers have destroyed prehistoric and historic sites all over the world? - And, of course, remember all the ancient objects, including writings, that were destroyed by the Christians in Europe, Africa, Asia and even America since the Roman emperors decided to use Christianity as a political tool until the US invaded Iraq, when some Sumerian records were stolen at Baghdad by burglars contracted by US religious extremists that wanted some original stories banished. Stories that are several millennia earlier than the book of Genesis, which repeats that same stories, adapted from the rich Sumerian urban polytheistic culture to the not so brilliant people living during king Solomon's time in his lands.

@aaronhypolite6512 Ай бұрын

I feel like I hear about the Thracians in about every video regarding Roman and Greek history, but hardly ever any details of their culture.... until now! Thanks @KingsAndGenerals

@Inquisitor_Vex Ай бұрын

Same.

@Dogmanofthewest Ай бұрын

I never actually knew how much I wanted to learn more about Thrace. You guys are the best. You’re in my top 3 history KZfaq channels

@harithmustaqim7758 Ай бұрын

Hi, mind sharing the other 2 channels?

@Dogmanofthewest Ай бұрын

@@harithmustaqim7758 of course, it’s historia militum and Epic History

@bloodlessbeast2661 Ай бұрын

Invicta!

@danmitchell1955 Ай бұрын

And historymarche is good too

@aveekmanna912 Ай бұрын

Bazbattles too

@austinpeterson6203 Ай бұрын

Thrace is the most underrated tribal and geographic region of antiquity. What do you get when you combine Hellenic, Balkan, and Dacian intermingling? The fact Alexander the Great wouldn’t invade Lydia/Asia Minor without some in his army shows just how valuable they were.

@user-rq6oe2ee4x 27 күн бұрын

Dacians were Thaciians themselves

@KathAroet 8 күн бұрын

Wtf is "Balkan"? Second sentence makes no sense lol

@Hartofilax Ай бұрын

It is widely accepted that Dionysus was originally a Thracian god that got merged into Greek

@neamnervi Ай бұрын

Of course!!!

@vodavictor1404 Ай бұрын

I would encourage you to make a video about the Dacians. They left a deep mark on the Roman Empire... They were the only ones that had an entire forum built to celebrate the roman victory over them (during Trajan).

@seaman5705 Ай бұрын

They were pretty much exterminated by the Romans . Their religion disappeared in the conquered territories - so the males where wiped out, province being heavily colonised The "free" ones where defeated definitively by Constantine, and the remaining individuals where moved in Pannonia in 318 - their culture completely disappeared after that date . End of their short history - sec 1 BC- sec 4 AD .

@vodavictor1404 21 күн бұрын

@@seaman5705 vai vai sorine, djuvara te-a convins cu ale lui prostii

@blueeyed5074 15 күн бұрын

@@seaman5705 Yep, they are way too much romanticized nowdays.

@Liquidsback Ай бұрын

Not once, not twice but Thrace.

@KingsandGenerals Ай бұрын

Nope

@Maesterful Ай бұрын

Yes, Mr. Burns

@sunking5939 Ай бұрын

@@KingsandGeneralsyes, dude.

@el0013 16 күн бұрын

@JahnosSardonis 12 күн бұрын

I laughed way too hard at this.

@calebroberts5422 Ай бұрын

A video like this on the Illyrians would be awesome too

@SA2004YG Ай бұрын

I just want to know if they're really related to the Albanians

@Trontotario Ай бұрын

@@SA2004YGit is, just search up any random Illyrian tribe or peoples and you will find under the name that the Albanian language is always compared with the name.

@endrit2705 Ай бұрын

⁠@@SA2004YGapart from the language (those few words that we know today are explained through albanian) the dna proves it. Just check the latest studies on the dna and you have the prove

@xhuliano5813 Ай бұрын

@@SA2004YGthe name Albania itself derives from the Illyrian tribe of Albanoi, which were mentioned by Ptolemy in the 2nd century AD, along with their central settlement Albanopolis.

@tonyalb3863 Ай бұрын

@@SA2004YG and you would believe the upload? DNA Haplo group proves it not an KZfaq upload

@peterdale2247 Ай бұрын

NOOO I just finished my dissertation on the Thracians and now you decide to release this. Can't wait to watch guys

@artawhirler Ай бұрын

It's OK. You probably couldn't have cited a KZfaq video as a source on your dissertation anyway. 😅

@opushead 2 күн бұрын

Tell me one thracian word.

@Sm0kerza Ай бұрын

Hey guys, I am Bulgarian and I've been looking for a video like this for a very long time, thanks so much for making it and it was super informative and unbiased. Having a look at the bibliography - there are definitely a lot of sources to go on and read about. Keep smashing it!

@GrimKnight12 Ай бұрын

Bulgarians are mixed with native balkan people as other south slavs...they are Thracian as any other balkan nation..

@opushead 2 күн бұрын

@GrimKnight12 The Greeks and the Turks (who are living in the territory of Turkey) are mixed - non homogeneous. The bulgarian genes are so homogeneous that you can say bulgarian are cousins to eachouther. It takes some thousands of years a nation to be so homogeneous.

@opushead 2 күн бұрын

Следи Sparotok. Тонове информация предоставя за така наречените траки. Има канал в YT, а също и блог в интернет, с архив събиран повече от 10 години. Това тук са баналните wikipedia тъпотии, които всеки гъркоман блещи.

@htak2010 Ай бұрын

The art in this episode is outstanding! Thanks for continuing to present us with top notch content.

@KingsandGenerals Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@BuddyWudzyn Ай бұрын

Man, one of my favorite topics of history. Thank you so much for putting this out! When I was a kid I remember always being so curious about what was going on in all the regions while the teacher and textbooks would only follow one cultures journey through time

@Roman_History_fan Ай бұрын

Finally 🎉 was expecting the Thracians since a long time

@Gen.berseker25 Ай бұрын

Finally the Thracians! Did you know? That the Eastern Roman emperor Justinian the Great and his general Flavius Belisarius were probably of Thracian origins!

@MiguelPerez-zx2wg Ай бұрын

Half Thracians. They also probably be half Illyrian.

@raulpetrascu2696 Ай бұрын

In fact if you look at the magisters militum and generals it seems to have been a time where Thracians made up a large part of the army and prominent in court (promoting their own companions). Much like Germans were in the west (and Illyrians earlier), but a lot less talked about. Looking at the story of the rise of Justin I (like Leo he's also known as the Thracian) we can postulate that the region of Thrace/Dacia/Moesia/Dardania fell on hard times because of raiding by ostrogoths and huns and this poverty pushed the citizens to the capital to seek their fortune, where they found themselves suited to imperial bodyguard and military roles. This is also the last group of emperors that spoke Latin day to day instead of Greek, because those provinces were Latin speaking Maybe it's covered in the video, I haven't watched yet

@georgezachos7322 Ай бұрын

Probably doesn't make certainly. His parents could be of any ethnic origin residing in those areas. Unless you have proof.

@ERMALARAPI Ай бұрын

they were illyrian

@georgezachos7322 Ай бұрын

@@ERMALARAPIYour proof being ...?

@Roman_History_fan Ай бұрын

just finished it! Amazing as always!

@ThorDog16 Ай бұрын

Love these videos on lesser talked about ancient civilizations

@infolover_68 Ай бұрын

A bright light on the history of the mysterious Thracians, thank you very much!!

@-RONNIE Ай бұрын

Thank you for another good video

@damianmiranda2985 Ай бұрын

Thank you!!! So few videos about the Thracians on KZfaq, hope you do more!

@SebastianMartinez-ru8ln Ай бұрын

thx always for make videos for us ! love this way to teach history ! for many many more vids !!

@Uzair_Of_Babylon465 Ай бұрын

Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍

@jamesrichmond-tz5ot Ай бұрын

So many fascinating cultures that are overshadowed by the more dominant ones. Really glad to see this video and more about the lesser known peoples of the ancient world.

@TlatoaniMontezuma Ай бұрын

Licinus was a Daco-Roman and Galerius had a Thracian father and Dacian mother.

@khankristian Ай бұрын

Love you guys!

@dimasb8452 Ай бұрын

Great video!!

@jhsams Ай бұрын

part of my family is from northern romania thank you for making this

@tomdijkstra4196 Ай бұрын

Great video, I'd love to see one on Dacians !

@Noodliest Ай бұрын

Really good, thanks K&G Team

@timetosee9251 Ай бұрын

Awesome! Love you are doing the people that part of tapestry of the ancient world but were not the most talked about. Keep it up!

@RodolfoGaming Ай бұрын

Nice timing after the newest archeological findings about Plqto and his opinion on the thracians

@yuuyakizami2133 Ай бұрын

The blu snek people from Rome Total War

@Drew151Proof Ай бұрын

Amazing show guys. Excellent

@BigTatanka626 Ай бұрын

great video, as usual

@awesomehpt8938 Ай бұрын

Thracians made for good gladiators and good rebels.

@theawesomeman9821 Ай бұрын

Spartacus among them

@UlpianHeritor Ай бұрын

Also, good Roman Emperors. Thrace produced more Roman Emperors than Italy.

@neamnervi Ай бұрын

And very good warriors to! The problem was that they fought each other all the time!

@NYCfrankie Ай бұрын

Awesome 2 see a video about thrace such a interesting group in history

@jdstocco84 Ай бұрын

That was a great video, I give it two thumbs up 👍👍

@AttilaH2023 Ай бұрын

One of the best history documentaries series on KZfaq. Keep up the great research.

@xhuliano5813 Ай бұрын

I've been a regular viewer of the channel since the Skanderbeg video in 2018. Your videos never fail to amaze me. Thank you for the great content! P.S.: Hopefully Illyrians next. 😁

@KingsandGenerals Ай бұрын

Thanks

@ArtheniaPendragon Ай бұрын

I hope you do a video on Elam some day! It seems so interesting but it's incredibly hard for me to find much on it

@HistBite Ай бұрын

Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things

@gabeeng7855 Ай бұрын

Wow. Great video. Great job!

@swarmsheppard Ай бұрын

Love these videos on ancient peripheral civilizations that were overshadowed by thier well known contemporaries

@flaviusstilicho397 Ай бұрын

Can you do a video on the Illyrians and a video on the Greco-Persian kingdom of commagene and its priest kings

@KingsandGenerals Ай бұрын

working on the first one. second one is much more difficult, we'll see

@Kili2807 Ай бұрын

Nice. The only thing I know about Commagene is this epic stone relief where the king is shaking hands with gigachad Herakles himself

@berserkerboy9777 Ай бұрын

Thank You, I love these types of videos

@apresmidi153 Ай бұрын

Great vid! Love hearing about some of the lesser-known states and peoples of antiquity!

@thieph Ай бұрын

Dacians next please

@garethmcguinness377 Ай бұрын

Dude i love these people group/cultural videos Fantastic stuff

@MythicTales993 Ай бұрын

This video is a masterpiece - it captures the essence of the topic perfectly.

@Abuamina001 Ай бұрын

Kudos. Fascinating.

@Pistolita221 Ай бұрын

Always excited to see a new video on Thrace.

@mikemodugno5879 Ай бұрын

I love your videos that cover a historic people group. The Thracians were awesome!

@goggy6850 20 күн бұрын

Amazing and well narrated video guys. Thanks so much for producing such amazing information

@LordOfArcania Ай бұрын

finally!! thank u

@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd Ай бұрын

idea : the history of the achaemenid empire from it's foundation, the events before and after the greek persian wars, the conquest of egypt, the delian league's campaigns into it, and the it's final days before its conquest by alexander the great.

@BigTatanka626 Ай бұрын

seconded

@kingleech16 Ай бұрын

Sounds like a whole series. Should be cool!

@emanuildimitroff Ай бұрын

Thracian treasures deserve a video themselves.

@AbhyudayaSinh Ай бұрын

Very informative❤

@EakDaFreak69 Ай бұрын

I very thoroughly enjoyed this video.

@PackHunter117 Ай бұрын

*You guys should do a part 2 to this explaining about the Bulgars and ending after Bulgarian gained independence from the Ottomans.*

@aaron6178 Ай бұрын

Stoked! My fave ancient peoples. Hardly anybody does work on the Thracians. Actually anything north of Greece and East of Illyria in the Classical period seem to be an academic Bermuda Triangle of sorts. High 5! Cheers.

@Milen4u Ай бұрын

On the contrary there are many Bulgarian historians and archeologists, who specialize in Thracology. We owe to them the discoveries and the studies and much of the information that was in this video.

@4sakenreaper42 Ай бұрын

Great video

@HistoryForYou68 Ай бұрын

The historical content is so good and meaningful, please continue to promote your creativity to have more quality content

@ireofdesire7269 Ай бұрын

The Pomaks are not a separate ethnic group, they're just muslim Bulgarians. Some of them identify as Turks due to their religion and religious customs.

@TrooperDan_262 11 күн бұрын

They are not simply Muslim Bulgarians. Muslims marry Muslims as a result heavily mixing with the Turks.

@pakshirajan8585 Ай бұрын

Please make a video on Chola Empire (Imperial Cholas)

@artawhirler Ай бұрын

Excellent video on a topic that doesn't get nearly enough attention! Thanks!

@dizifilmvesaire Ай бұрын

Our Phrygians were also Thracians. Greetings from Turkey to all history geeks.

@ginaibisi777 Ай бұрын

Yes Dardanelles were Phrygians.

@Klimbo93 Ай бұрын

I had the impression Phrygians were located on the northern side of Anatolia (Turkish peninsula)

@dizifilmvesaire Ай бұрын

@@Klimbo93 They migrated from Thrace to Anatolia and became a mixture of Balkan and Anatolian cultures.

@chris-qe4yc Ай бұрын

Indeed , before you genocide and them also

@neamnervi Ай бұрын

But turks are 1000 years later, in this time they weres in Central Asia! 😂

@LM-pd6wj Ай бұрын

PLEASE, a video about the tocharian people and the oasis state!!!!! Thanks you!!!

@ventzesalvdjoundjolov684 Ай бұрын

I think in general is very well put video. Good gob.

@Wodan87 Ай бұрын

Great video, now we need one on the Dacians please! :D

@Vegas_Des Ай бұрын

I always wondered where Spartacus was from

@jeliazkodimitrov3235 Ай бұрын

A number of Roman Emperors and Emperors of Byzantium of the 2nd-9th century (193 - 867) were of Thracian ethnic descent: 1. Septimius Severus Thracian (193 - 211) - disputed 2. Geta Thracian (February 211 - December 211) - disputed 3. Caracalla Thracian (211 - 217) - disputed 4. Maximinus Thrax (235-238), 5. Aurelius Thracian, also known as Claudius II (268-270), 6. Aurelian Thracian (270 - 275) 7. Constantius I Thracian Chlorus (305-306) 8. Galerius Thracian (305-311) 9. Konstantin I Thracian the Great (306-337) 10. Licinius Thracian (308 - 324) 11. Maximin Daza Thracian (308/310-313) 12. Constantius II Thracian (337-361) 13. Julian Thracian (361-363) 14. Jovian Thracian (363-364) 15. Marcian Thracian (450-457) 16. Leo I Thracian (457-474) 17. Leo II Thracian (474) 18. Justin I Thracian (518-527) 19. Justinian I Thracian the Great (527-565) 20. Justin II Thracian (565-578) 21. Tiberius II Constantine Thracian (578-582) 22. Michael II Thracian* (820 - 829); *Ethnic Thracian born in Thracian Phrygia 23. Theophil Thracian* (829 - 842); *Ethnic Thracian born in Thracian Phrygia 24. Michael III Thracian* (842 - 867); *Ethnic Thracian born in Thracian Phrygia

@ginaibisi777 Ай бұрын

All of them born Daranians😊

@dardanmaliqi4754 Ай бұрын

Half of them illyrians (Dardani tribe)

@HaziqZufayri Ай бұрын

❤🎉

@tonyalb3863 Ай бұрын

you lost your mind ! All of them Dardania ,Illyria Thracians Refused to join Illyrians against Roman invaders then Thracians mixed with Slavs and today thracians speak Slavic

@user-xc6co3ur2v Ай бұрын

@@ginaibisi777😊😅😂

@brettclarke3009 Ай бұрын

I can’t get enough of these… keep em coming!

@hansfabri6906 Ай бұрын

Loved it!!;-)

@emanuelskelaj9843 Ай бұрын

Love this. Can you also do a video about the entire history of the Illyrians and what happened to them?

@ilirsinanaj123 Ай бұрын

Born on a village 25 km from today Skopje

@Numba003 Ай бұрын

Thank you for this! Often, when listening to ancient history content, I see Thrace and hear it mentioned, but I haven't really known much about it beyond the name and general cultural area. Have you guys done an episode on the Lydians? God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)

@nicolaenicolae3289 Ай бұрын

Great subject for a historical video :d

@roihanfadhil2879 Ай бұрын

Good video as always 👏👏. Are you guys have plan to making video about Ancient Proto-Greek Civilization like Minoan and Mycenaean?

@KingsandGenerals Ай бұрын

Yep yep. Although I am not sure Minoans are classified as the Proto-Greeks.

@vodavictor1404 Ай бұрын

@tonyalb3863 Ай бұрын

@@KingsandGenerals pls include , that todays "greeks" have nothing in Common with old Mycenaean Greeks since todays "greeks" speak KOINE language

@georgechristman6920 Ай бұрын

Albo detected, opinion on Greece rejected.

@tonyalb3863 Ай бұрын

@@georgechristman6920 they cant be all "greeks" there was , Mycenaean Greeks, there was illyrians , there was Thracians , there was Dacians ! you guys always think that Ballkan was only Greeks and only greeks fought each other common man we are talking based on Facts , based on Greek philosophers writings and pls pls go and do your Haplo DNA test its cheap these days

@noone4700 Ай бұрын

Based and Indo-European Pilled, keep up the excellent work!!!

@micahminor4764 Ай бұрын

Thanks for covering my favorite people of antiquity.

@jankusthegreat9233 Ай бұрын

U guys are awesome

@DesertAres Ай бұрын

Two serious mistakes guys. Xerxes was not at the battle of Marathon. Datis, Hippias and Artaphernes was the Persian generals at Marathon. Xerxes wasn't even king, his father Darius was. And Mardonios was killed at the battle of Platea in 479 BCE. Xerxes then king left with approx half the army and did retreat through Thace in 480 BCE. Also why pronounce Herakles and then show the spelling "Hercules"?

@valentinstoyanov304 Ай бұрын

Belisarius was Thracian too...

@albanianshqiptar Ай бұрын

Great video! Can you make one about illyrians?

@Caratacus1 Ай бұрын

Excellent hats.

@gruffythrone988 Ай бұрын

Great video I am Spartacus

@MartinAdverb Ай бұрын

I am Spartacus!

@2fast566 Ай бұрын

A video about the Illyrians would be great ❗️

@VeneSpas Ай бұрын

Finally 👏👏👏

@richardtabor8686 Ай бұрын

Didn't expect to hear "high frequency trade" in an ancient-culture video essay. I guess, as a wise man said, everything is relative. Ty for the excellent content to everyone involved.

@jackmorrison5272 Ай бұрын

I would love a video about the Illirians

@aland.9060 Ай бұрын

I wouldn’t call Thrace “where east meets west”. Asia Minor is more like that believe. When you consider that place replaced multiple times by eastern and western civilizations throughout history, thus resembles cultural features from both worlds. Perhaps you thought that’s the case in some time period in history for Thrace and stated that in the context of that period, I’m not sure.

@KingsandGenerals Ай бұрын

This is a metaphor. It doesn't really need some kind of scientific explanation.

@aland.9060 Ай бұрын

@@KingsandGenerals⁠lol right, I just gave my opinion, I get what you meant