Another awesome Kiss analog video! That GW Instek mdo is a beast! I like the front panel color schemes on both the siglent and the instek they are very clean looking.

Thanks for explaining all this in one sitting. I'm a hobbyist and slowly buying equipment that will be useful. There are a lot of options out there and I always wonder if I need all the bells and whistles. Thanks again, really helped make up my mind.

I'm setting up my first home electronics lab and just discovered your channel. Really appreciate the video. A lot of good, basic information. Thank you.

Excellent. Learned a lot. I bought my first DSO 8 years ago. You are making me think I need to upgrade.

I'm so glad I found this video, probably the only one on youtube, best video on how to select a oscilliscope for a beginner such as myself...thanx!

This video is really good, professionally opinionated and very experienced advices (seems like :) ) on what is needed and what is wanted. I want to buy my first oscilloscope and, after reading tons of unsubstantiated opinions, fanatics points of view, and click baits, this is one of the first videos that I can classify as (mega-) useful. The searching is getting really hard, but at list you bring some clarity :) Thanks for teaching us!

Got-it; *Primary: Input freq range (aka bandwidth like 50mhz), sample resolution (samples per sec like 2.5xfreq?), display buffer memory size like, & capture rate (ex: waveform display rate) *Secondary: # of bits for amplitude, read std serial protocols, multimeter, funct gen, spectrum analyzer (MDO), logic analyzer (MSO), # input channels, Display size, etc

Don’t skip ahead - the whole video is gold

Thank you for the great info!

Hey Eddy, bought a new Rigol DHO804 yesterday. Got delivered today just after I left for work! Watching some videos in an effort to not blow it up 😅

I liked your explanations, great job !!!

Thanks for the video(s)! Love your presentation.

From this presentation I bought the Rigol DS1202Z-E . Special deal by Rigol , also all functions (trigger and decoding ) free! May be now #1 in the list of the best less than 300 USD beginners scope... 😜

This was exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!

Awesome vid, thank you!!!

Great introduction. Thanks!

THanks for your explanation!

Thank you,That was very helpful. I am in the process of looking for a digital scope.

Thanks a lot for sharing great information, so helpful for me

So glad you are making this series! I have just got my Rigol scope inside my door. :-) By listening to you, it sounds to me as I have chosen good specifications. Bandwidth 70 MHz Analog Channels 4 Real-time Sample Rate 8 GSa/s Max Memory Depth 200 Mpts Waveform Capture Rate 500,000 wfms/s Screen 9-inch

Excellent rundown. Didn't get the deep memory thing completely until now. The old CRT scopes would leave the vertical amplifiers running during the retrace, they would just kill the cathode drive (blanking). I had a couple of scopes where you could turn off the blanking in case you were concerned about missing something. My 1st scope was a (very old) rack mounted unit purchased at a Hamfest and didn't even have retrace blanking. I think it was originally used for monitoring modulation level at a AM station. The single trace analogs may be very fast, but with the old dual trace ones, you had a choice of alternating channels or chopping, both of which would miss things, especially on the early digital era stuff. I still have my Heathkit dual trace I built in high school, and several other CRT scopes, including a fairly recent (

You're a cool dude and teach well. Thanks for the insight.

Started off with Analogue scopes…. First digital scope I used was a Nicolet something something back in the early 80’s. Only had a dot display, so no joining of the dots. It was terrible. Used a 475 for many years, then a 2485 until around 2010. Digital scopes just didnt do it for me. After 2010 to now, I used both an analogue scope and a GW instek GDS2204 in my home workshop. This year I bought a new cheap Siglent MSO, the SDS1104-XE scope. Heck, was I blown away by the new generation oscilloscopes. FFT works fantastic, Bode-plots work great. RF-signals was always a big issue for digital scopes, but no problems with the new digital scope, even X/Y mode is greatGuess my analogue scope will be delegated to sit unused on the rack for now.

Awesome video thanks!

Thanks. Great video.

Excellent Thank you.

Hi Eddie, awesome video.

Another great video.. ☝️

I am jealous of you, old man. Wish I could download your experience and knowledge.

Jep, another great video. Thanks Eddie. Great stuff. Thanks for sharing.

I'm still fairly new with oscilloscope but have many years of experience working with automotive electronics. I currently own 6 tektronix analog oscilloscopes, 1 hitachi analog scope, 1 hp analog xy display monitor and a hp logic analyzer, a bunch of other old school test equipment that I haven't even figured out what it does or how to use it. Basically acquired a university physics lab from the 70's for next to nothing. At first I was intrigued by your mentioning of forgetting analog test equipment and then noticed the part where you mentioned @ 13:19 in this video how the digital scope was mimicking an analog scope. Perhaps I'm missing something in the interpretation of your comments, but if we should just forget about analog test equipment because it is so antiquated, then why compare the latest and greatest digital scopes to that old shit? I have a difficult time putting faith into someone that contradicts themselves in such a manner. This is the first video of yours that I have viewed so I do not have any idea of your qualifications to be recommending that everyone should just run out and only purchase digital oscilloscopes no matter what. Perhaps a better way to inform people would be to do a size by side comparison of the technologies and explain the differences, drawbacks and/or benefits. As for myself, I will just stick with the real-time measurements offered by the old shitty analog scopes that so far have not let me down. In my experience, when diagnosing electronic malfunctions, 99.9% of the time, it is typically bad solder joints, chafed wires or components that are visibly bad. Analog scopes will confirm the malfunction without the need for deep memory or any type of storage for that matter. All I have to do is watch the glitch occur as I tap or wiggle test the circuit in question. More than likely there are real uses for digital scopes that I do not comprehend at this point in time, but to say that analog scopes are pretty much worthless is a blanket statement that apparently doesn't sit well with me. This is just my opinion and I don't mean any disrespect.

I sold my wife's used underwear on eBay and made enough money to buy a new 200mhz digital scope. Rigol DS1202E, works good!

Hi Eddie good video, From my experience of oscilloscopes, buy what you can afford and update when nessacary. Back in the 1990's I bought my first CRT scope 20Mhz bandwidth, £400. Trying single shot capture a signal with a scope hood camera was really expensive !. Moved to a Siglent 70 MHz dso scope (£200) in about 2010 and had reservations whether the signal I was looking at could trusted. It was a steep learning curve, but once you understand the DSO's it a big advantage over CRT scopes Tried XY mode on the DSO its as slow as wet weekend. Bought the Rigol ds1054z hacked it up to 100Mhz, ended putting on eBay, just could not get on with the user interface and lack of firmware updates to iron out the bugs. Finally bought the Siglent sds1102x and not looked back, no intentions of upgrading again. The wave form update speed is a bit of a marketing joke, you'll only get the specified updates in dot mode at a certain time base setting ! Would you do a video on using two channel's as a poor mans differential mode ?, as I am wanting to check the output of a bridged Amplifier. Adam As far as combined DM, logic analyser and signal generator, I went for separate items bit old fashioned that way.

I know how to use my scope and function generator along with making sure the waveform is what I want to see when playing with circuits. I know what dB is in respect to audio but not in relation to waveform capture and creation.

The main function of "deep memory" is to mimic the utility of a secondary timebase on an analog scope. (dual trace delayed sweep scope). That is to say, inspecting a signal in fine detail but the trigger happened long ago in a galaxy far away. An important difference is that the analog scope requires a recurring signal (such as a complex NTSC television signal) in order to view the detail but a digital storage scope needs only one "sweep" to capture enough detail for close inspection. It is probably not very effective as a studio monitor where real time immediate visualization is important.

I have still on my bech a old soviet one. made in the 50's :D is not really that deep just 30cm, it has 3 tubes a2.5inch crt and a woooooooping 10mhz (modifiend in the 60-70 for 25mhz). I still like it a lot. He helped me to understand electronics, one cand test and measure almost anything on it with the help of some passives a pen and a piece of paper.this kind of tool dose not give you the answer but it let you find it. A partner of a engineers path.

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It depends on what you need to measure. If your work is on audio gear, IMO, an analog scope is easier and more convenient to use. The only advantage I can see to a digital scope for audio use is it is smaller/lighter/easier to move around if necessary. But if you do your work at a bench, an analog scope is my choice - I find myself using my 2246 90% of the time over my digital scope.

"The coolness effect" - LOL! We've all been there! You bought it because the dial goes up to 11, admit it. I've been looking around and think I've settled on the Siglent SDS1104X-E for my first scope - now I just need a reason to buy one, HA!. The 4 channels let the user split the 1GSa/s on each pair of channels at the same time, so 1 and 3/4 or 2 and 3/4. Also has 14Mpts so good deep memory. I had considered the GW Instek, which I really like, but I'm not working so the bucks are a little rich for me, especially for a first ever scope and compared to the Siglent at nearly 25% of the price. The logic analyser would be semi-useful: the team I volunteer with could use it to help with issues on the old (very old) machine we maintain. What happened to your Siglent vs Rigol video - that popped up and disappeared before I could see it? Incidentally, IIRC, analog scopes drove the electron path by manipulating a magnetic field between plates so it scanned across the screen as quickly as it could do that - close to the speed of light? I don't know, I could be talking rubbish :) Here's an interesting idea: how not to blow up your scope when undertaking common activities?

Thanks Eddie, I was using Tek scopes back in the 60's on some of the first military computers and equipment. Then when I got out of the service I used them to work on communication systems. I still have a 465B hooked up to a ham transceiver to monitor modulation. Those things were bullet proof. My first digital scope was a Tek too but it wasn't much of a scope. My last Tek scope was a 2024B with decoding. I'm kind of sorry I gave it up for my R&S scope. The build quality was better and the lead were much better but the R&S does a lot more like Bode plots and it's faster, I think 300 or 350M.

Hello!! Do you already have the videos where you explain why fft is useful? Your videos are amazing!!

999th thumbs up here! thank you for sharing your knowledge.

A decent analog scope goes for fifty cents per Mhz. If cost is a concern, there are some characteristics of analog scopes - like immediacy and responsive of display - are appealing.

were you just coming back from a jogging at later part of the video? your breathing seems exhausted! anyway, appreciate very much your great effort of explaining DSO, keep up your good work

Hey! Thanks for this vid, It answered lots of my questions but now I have other doubts. I am working with FPGAs and right now I am implementing digital filters for audio processing. I want to test the frequency response of those filters and planned to do it with a function generator and Hantek DSO5102P, but after watching some of your videos I realized that maybe I am missing something and there is a smarter way to do this? Maybe I need a spectrum analyzer idn. I also plan on using a logic analyzer sometime in the future so I am picking one up too. I am expending almost 800 in total and I feel my money could be spent in a smarter way. I'll keep watching your videos, I like them very much. Hopefully, I'll find my answers there. With that being said any suggestion or comment would be greatly appreciated

1968 TO 1972 I worked with a PB250 computer for a simulator. that computer used a magno-restrictive delayl line for computer memeory. from one end of the delay line to the other was 3 miliseconds. We used a tectronics scope to look at the digital data pattern with that scope. I can only guess what that scope cost. Today for a fraction of that cost I have digital scope that would do what that tektronics did.

Been watching most all your KZfaqs, Great Job. A question I have. All my Computer stuff are Macs. It seems that ever Osciliscope I read about are PC only. What should I consider with this in mind when choosing a scope.

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Kiss Analog says "you don't need analog scopes these days... trust me go digital..." Ok Kiss Digital. Thanks for the tips 😊👍

If I understand you correctly, if I only care about restoration of old radios (broadcast and SW bands) the 50MHz digital Siglent (or clone) should be ok vs. worrying about going 4x the max of 30'ish MHZ that I would have to consider if going analog. Would that be correct?

what would you select for 4 channel 50Mhz deep memory ?

UNI-T good for Oscillope? Also what model is good for Oscillope and function/wavefront generator?

You are mentioning the capture rate and how it relate with the old analog oscilloscope, but I don't think the older models were using a fly-back system like on CRT TVs, I think they were fully addressable 2D coordinate Vector Screens, like on the Vectrex Game Console, so basically you can "move the dot" wherever you want without any latency. That being said, I do have a question: Do you have any opinion/advice regarding USB models that use a computer screen to display data, for example things like the Hantek 6022BL, Dream Source Lab DSSCope U2P20, or RockTech/Loto/SainSmart/ OSCxxxx ? I've checked the spec, but I've to admit I don't really understand what they mean in term of onboard memory, or what "equivalent" means in regard to the digital bandwidth. Basically I'm looking for something that would work with my oldskool hardware work (8 bit and 16 bit computers), to analyse problems on the bus, with the audio or video issues, and also for analog vintage audio equipment troubleshooting... which would not take too much room and where I could easily transfer data to the PC for further analysis, backups, etc... when I'm doing technical blog posts or videos. Thanks in advance :)

What do you recommend for a scope to exam power circuits such as 480 volt- 60 hz. for VFD motor drives, etc... that are safe for higher voltages for power electrical work. Any makes and models that are responsibly priced ?? Thanks

Can you please do a review of Perytech USB Oscilloscope DSO-U2400 400MS/s ? It's low cost and seems to have many features .

I just want an analog oscilloscope because I think they're neat. I just love analog tech.

I am confused about the bandwidth spec, like 100 Mhz, 200 Mhz. What bandwidth are the manufacturers referring to? Thanks for the videos. They have been helpful.

Well I'm watching some of your older videos. Seems like you really like the Micsig now. The tablet form factor is great for anybody that has limited space. The biggest difference I notice from a cheap scope and a nicer one is the auto trigger function. On cheaper scopes most of the time it doesn't ever set time base or volts correctly. I'll never go back to an analog scope. Way too many tradeoffs.

The thing is you said you are not a digital guy so yea 50Mhz is enough for you but an ESP32 already runs at 240Mhz so you won´t be seeing a lot with 50Mhz. If you are going to work with digital signals you will need a lot more. The ESP32 outputs a 80Mhz clock signal I think. At this point the Hantek scopes are so cheap that you can get either the 70/80Mhz version and hack it to 200/250 depending on the model or for 100-150 more just buy the top model. Same with the basic Rigol 1000 series. The Rigol MSO5000 series where you can even hack it from 2 up to 4 channels is an amazing deal at ~900.

Do you have any input on the Micsig scope?

What do u think about the owon xds3202e scope?

I STILL THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO LEARN ON AN ANALOG OSCILLOSCOPE,IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT ALL WORKS.I AM FINDING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE THAT DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE BASIC KNOWLEDGE OF ELECTRONIC THEORY.THE PRESENTATION I FOUND TO BE INFORMATIVE AND,LEARNED SOME THINGS I DID NOT KNOW.I AM OVER WHELMED AT THE SELECTION OF OSCILLOSCOPES AVAILABLE TODAY.

Hey i cant even get an isolation transformer in my country....so i bought a velleman hps 50 cause it portable..

Would an analog scope show you the true clock of a 2000MH video card? A 200MH Digital would not right, is there any oscilloscope under 5 digits that will? I am so confused it think I'll end up building my own someday. But being into P.C. development atm is there any scope that will help me?

hi, good video, i'm looking for the best MSO oscilloscope quallity- price, i'm looking at packets of serial data, them i want one how can decode Protocols such as I2C, SPI, CAN, LIN, and RS232. txn a lot . i'm waiting your request. regards.

Hello, I have a high frequency noise in my home. What instrument can I use to locate where it is coming from?

great info. Not 100% beginner video though.

You just gave me the word - "the WiFi version oscilloscope." I wanna get into wifi and even beyond, both to repair and do some R&D work. What do you think I should get? Is there a scope that has multifunction, including spectrum analyzing with a multi-channel feature? Btw, the scopes at your work, the $17,000.00 one, what is it caple of, and what brand stuff? Do you work with them or repair them?

And those oscilloscopes which output hdmi@60Hz, then why it's needed 60000Hz or more on its screen, just wondering

Where I find this scope?

Which oscilloscopes do u suggest for RF antennas

hey great videos... the arduino girls should watch this stuff and learn about robotics... thanks...:)

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OK, I know this game, the whole idea here is not to sell you on what you need but to keep the hype going by talking about all the "cool" features and neato stuff that these systems can do. I'm always hoping that someone would sort it all out and say : these are the entry level scopes , these are the mid-range scopes, these are the high-end application specific scopes, but that's not going to happen. The whole idea is to keep you confused so that you'll be hot on the trail chasing video after video trying to sort everything out. The more videos you watch, the more advertising revenues they earn. Sure. Selecting a product is a royal pain anyway. Even when you sit down with various experts, they all have varying opinions and brand loyalties. It's like asking someone which car to buy, you could spend weeks talking with people and never arrive at a solution. The good news is that the price of electronic equipment is pretty low these days. Thus, I will probably purchase something within a $200 -$400 price point and take my chances.

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