Kit bashing an entire Black Numenorean army for MESBG

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Windrush Wargamers

Windrush Wargamers

Жыл бұрын

Not being in love with the original sculpts for the Black Numnoreans I decided to take 5 of my favourite plastic kits to bash them together into a unique Barad-dur army. ]
Let us know what you think in the comments. and join the Discord here: / discord

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@Old_Shatterhans
@Old_Shatterhans Жыл бұрын
The Dark Marshall to Black Numenorian Marshall conversion looks dope. The rest of the B.Numenorians is great as well, but I already told you that. Really like the colour scheme, they look like they've fallen to evil not that long ago.
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy! That was the intent with the colour scheme, also to contrast the warmth of the red/ white with the coldness of the black- this is repeated in the basing with the black ash and the lava.
@kaz9357
@kaz9357 Жыл бұрын
These conversion and proxy videos are great! Also love that you show the options with cheaper models, not ones twice the price, 3d printed or hard to find
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much, makes it worthwhile. Do you have any ideas for future proxy videos?
@michaelquinn8064
@michaelquinn8064 Жыл бұрын
liked em so much i subscribed, great conversions
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Many thanks. are you working on anything right now?
@michaelquinn8064
@michaelquinn8064 Жыл бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 yeh just getting back into painting, got a box of flash gitz, just painting them for fun cause i always loved those guys
@Zehyr222
@Zehyr222 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your work, it's an awesome idea to give Annatar some servants. Your kitbashing is good, i love it !
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Thanks bud, what are you working on right now?
@elcone3
@elcone3 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful army, thank you for sharing. My personal favourite was the first conversions you did. I love all those kits you showed, got some of them myself and planning to get a few more. They are so versatile.
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
That you mate! I agree, the kits are great. What are you planning to use the kits for, Black Numenoreans?
@elcone3
@elcone3 Жыл бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 Actually, several different games. Want to make a knight/Teutonic army for historical, and yeah, a Barad Dur army for ME.
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
@@elcone3 Nice, what historical game do you play?
@elcone3
@elcone3 Жыл бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 Saga for now.
@arthursouza4326
@arthursouza4326 Жыл бұрын
your channel inspired me to convert my first miniature, and i'm starting to convert my first Rohan Army
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Buddy, how are the conversions coming along? I would love to see some if you send them to: windrushwargamers@gmail.com
@samsowden
@samsowden Жыл бұрын
Gripping beast goths?
@arthursouza4326
@arthursouza4326 Жыл бұрын
@@samsowden I'm trying something between Victrix Vikings and Dark Age Archers. They are for my Hornburg garrison
@pedroalves6425
@pedroalves6425 Жыл бұрын
This channel is like water to a thirsting man. For a guy who collects mainly to play with wife and kids these conversions are priceless. Ftr I prefer this Sauron to the official miniature.
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir! That is too kind. What conversions are you working on currently?
@pedroalves6425
@pedroalves6425 Жыл бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 The fist on the list are dead riders for the dead of dunharrow list 😁
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
@@pedroalves6425 Nice, If you are converting them I would recommend using: fireforge-games.com/living-dead/366-living-dead-knights.html kitbashed with the warriors of the dead. The horses are big but they do fit on 40mm bases. They worked nicely for me.
@pedroalves6425
@pedroalves6425 Жыл бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 Another great tip! Thanks, this opened the world to me.
@dzikimanolas1948
@dzikimanolas1948 3 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@rockz6931
@rockz6931 Жыл бұрын
Very cool work!
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate, what are you working on right now?
@KnudAutlermann
@KnudAutlermann Жыл бұрын
This is fricking brilliant. I hate not being original but this just blows my mind. Wow!!!
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words :) What are you working on right now?
@KnudAutlermann
@KnudAutlermann Жыл бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 An Lotr DnD campaign for some co-workers. This is a huge inspiration for some flavored NPCs for my party to fight. Currently theyre trekking their way through the ashwastes of Mordor fighting off fell beasts, trolls, wargs, and many other things. Occassionally having to destroy an orc camp using the new Gnarlwood terrain from Warcry...
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
@@KnudAutlermann Sounds amazing bud. I have thought about adapting the setting for DnD before. What did you do for the classes?
@KnudAutlermann
@KnudAutlermann Жыл бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 that was difficult lol. My half-elf is a monk, as she is able to draw on her spirit to "do magic" I limited magic classes like Wizard and Sorcerer to races. Dunedain, dwarves, etc etc. Regular humans got extra ability scores to compensate for the lack of magic
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
@@KnudAutlermann Nice, so did you homebrew the races abilities? So do you have Paladins and Clerics? and if so do they worship Eru Ilúvatar?
@Optikerlp
@Optikerlp Жыл бұрын
I think they came out quite nice. The Perry Miniature Bodies sometimes feel a little too thin for MESBG, but you made them work well. One thing that I would love to see in future videos is a shot of the entire Army (all models) in one play (after showing them on the rotating bit). I always feel that an army and the paint jobs come together even better if everything is assembled.
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy :) I will keep that in mind next time I film- it's something we used to do but have moved away from - you are right, for bigger projects like this it shows the scale of the army better. What are you working on right now?
@Optikerlp
@Optikerlp Жыл бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 Just finnished 1000 Points of the Return of the King LL, was great fun and pretty easy when 95% of your army are Ghosts/Spirits. Next project will probably be a Beornings army using alternative kits like the Barbarian set from Frostgrave.
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
@@Optikerlp Got to love the army of the dead :) Funny you mention that- my brother will be working on a video over the next few months for kit-bashing come Beornings. Shold be e fun one. Interesting using the frost grave barbarians they have loads of good bits, will you make them taller?
@Optikerlp
@Optikerlp Жыл бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 Sound awesome, would love to know what kits and bits he will be using. I haven't actually bought the Barbarian kit yet, but I am not intending to make them taller. In the lore, beornings are just regualar men and women living near Beorn and his son. And as far as I know from a recent Reddit post, the ForgeWorld models aren't actually taller than other men like Gondorians.
@mooseworks_soldiers
@mooseworks_soldiers Жыл бұрын
They look great!
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud, what are you working on right now?
@mooseworks_soldiers
@mooseworks_soldiers Жыл бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 How to cast my custom Army Men.
@alecfowler2261
@alecfowler2261 Жыл бұрын
I did some Black Numenoreans by using Morannon orcs for the heavily armoured base body, with Perry foot knight heads, swords and arms. I also gave them all 3D printed cloaks. They look alright!
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Nice one bro, How many did you make? would be keen to see some pics if you have them handy? feel free to shoot them into the discord: discord.gg/Gz3dawMq
@Danielmatthews_NL
@Danielmatthews_NL Жыл бұрын
The old army of the dead king was my favorite. I converted a black Numenorian from a Dolguldor Castalin. Gave him a Uruk-Hai jawline. Looked alright!
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Thanks bro, that sounds really cool. Did you do a straight head swap with an Uruk? Uruks have an impressive set of teeth on them aswell. That would keep the theme of the Mouth of Sauron too. If you want you could send me a picture on windrushwargamers@gmail.com I would be really keen to take a look- it sounds awesome
@Dimanti88
@Dimanti88 Жыл бұрын
That is an awesome idea, I didn't think of using Uruk-hai. They have the perfect faces to recreate the creepy smile of the Mouth of Sauron whom is a Black Numenorian in the movie.
@jmaccsarmiesofmiddleearth
@jmaccsarmiesofmiddleearth Жыл бұрын
Wooooaahhhhhhhh I'm totally stealing this for whenever I get round to them. The colour scheme is class tooo
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Thanks my dude! You can steal this as long as you send me pics through so I can check them out :) Cheers, I think they all look cool on the table top with Annatar
@jamesrose1460
@jamesrose1460 Ай бұрын
These are great. I had a start of an Angmarian based army that would be centered on lights, Ghosts, Spectres and undead...using LOTROs Eastern Angmar❤
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Ай бұрын
Thanks buddy. I would love to see some pics of that. Big fan of Angmar. consider joining the channel discord so you could post them there discord.gg/8UDceRp5jw
@UnitRico
@UnitRico Жыл бұрын
This is great timing, with the upcoming battlehosts I'm planning on getting the Mordor one so I can make a silly warg rider focused list (I already own 6 + the Shadow Lord) and I'm planning on using Black Numenoreans as frontline infantry. Never been the biggest fan of the models GW made for them so I'm looking to convert and this is a great inspiration. My current plan is to take the regular Numenoreans, shave off all insignias and change their helmets to look more like the leather caps they wear in the Battle for Middle Earth II expansion.
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
That would work really well, feel free to send some progress pics to the discord or to gmail windrushwargamers@gmail.com
@SuperRustaman
@SuperRustaman Жыл бұрын
I did not use the GW Black Numenoreans either. I used some medieval figures and painted them with darker colors.
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Nice, where did you get the medieval warriors from?
@wonderboy2402
@wonderboy2402 Жыл бұрын
I have Black Dragon miniatures from the Conan board game. I think they are are perfect and intimidating. Black and red armor. They are also slightly taller 28mm making them look boss.
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Just had a google search, they look really cool, they are very atmospheric.
@magesboy9844
@magesboy9844 Жыл бұрын
Love your work! Inspired me to convert my own black numenorian army! Wanted to ask where you got the big guy himself? I would love to use a similar model or pose
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Hi Bud, thanks. Glad to hear it. Feel free to send me some progress pics in the discord: discord.gg/yJm9munh The Annatar is from Norba Miniatures. Link here: www.norbaminiatures.com/gb/the-battle-of-the-ring/288-young-dark-lord.html. Here is the Video where I convert him up: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r8uZfKxp19KveZ8.html But I have also found this since which I think is awesome: www.minyarts.eu/valymar-games-dark-elven-blacksmith_13764_17046
@andyp2004
@andyp2004 Жыл бұрын
this has inspired me to kitbash some morgul knights and warriors of the dead. the game is usually played at 600 points so id only have 6 black numenoreans and 3 morgul knights (im using the mouth of sauron as the marshal, to represent his past self) so im kind of limited but oh well, i like the design of these too much
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Glad to have inspired :) That sounds great, send some pics through to windrushwargamers@gmail.com . Will you give the MoS a lance?
@andyp2004
@andyp2004 Жыл бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 trying to fit these guys in the army i cant give him a lance without losing one black numenorean on foot, but ill definitely send pictures when i finish it up. i know you arent a competetive guy (neither am i) but what point cap are you thinking for your barad-dur army? because i might follow suit to have more minis on the table👀 edit: the idea for painting sauron and the black numenoreans as anatar and his followers is really interesting, maybe i could paint the GW sauron the same way 🤔🤔🤔
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
@@andyp2004 That is fair enough, but I think that the lance is class- would pay for itself after one successful combat. Honestly I am not sure about the points cap- it depends on what I take- I could take Shelob for some speed- this can either be about 650 points (in one warband with Sauron), or go all the way up to 800/1000 points with the Marshal/ Ringwraith/ Shelob. I feel like it might work best at about 700ish points. That would look cool, not too much cloth on the GW one though. What colours would you use?
@andyp2004
@andyp2004 Жыл бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 i was originally thinking of doing with silver for the army and black for the cloaks, but this color scheme really inspired me, so i might either make anatar/sauron (havent decided if im gonna use the young dark lord mini or the official GW one) in the white/red robes or the black numenoreans in them. i wanna keep them seperate though so its either sauron or the army, itll probably be up to whether i follow your conversion for anatar or not cuz i really dislike failcast but GWs sauron is *really* cool. i might just go all the way and do a 1000 point army so i can just have a horde of black numenoreans. i could add some orcs in there as well for even more chaff but i really do prefer the black numenorean kitbash on display here, such a cool aesthetic
@andyp2004
@andyp2004 Жыл бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 actually i think ill go for the fair annatar as well for the army, but ill go with a different paint scheme. ima go with the peter jackson movie version of annatar, so blonde hair, silver armor instead of black, and replace the red robes with yellow. the black numenoreans are gonna have black and red robes and have most of the robes be black. ill make sure to send images to your email when i get em done but thatll take a while since im currently finishing up a horus heresy army
@smoothbrush4722
@smoothbrush4722 Жыл бұрын
They came out exceptional, i would have went with some darker colors, they do look like pirates :D
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
That way I could use them for the corsairs of umbar list as well :) What are you working on right now?
@smoothbrush4722
@smoothbrush4722 Жыл бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 A complex mordor horde, wich i can use in 5 army lists.
@koen0th
@koen0th Жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you for a great deal of inspiration, as always with your conversions, I especially like the antler helmet. I was just doing some black num conversions today so it's a perfect timing. I've managed to make 5 from warriors of the dead (swords only) by doing some headswaps and adding some spikey bits to the helmet and armour. Using the same paint scheme as my morgul knights they already look believable enough as dismounted knights. As it happens I got my mouth of sauron like 15years ago and ended up with just the mounted version (I shared the foot model with a friend) so I still need to make a fitting dismounted model. Any tips? Also would love to see some more video's on proxies or simple but much needed wargear conversions(for example high elves with shield, archers with Spears, moria goblins too)
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Koen0th. I would like to see your work in progress pic of your conversions :). If you would like to send them to: windrushwargamers@gmail.com . For the dismounted MoS- he has a unique helmet/ mouth which is the key focal point of the model, the rest is just robes. So I would say, either press mould his head from the mounted version or if you can sculpt your own- a good starting point might be an Isenguad Uruk-hai warrior as the mouths are really big. You can use hat as a base and build up layers of detail. If you are based outside of the UK you could use the unreleased miniatures- unreleasedminiatures.eu/fallen-men/151-black-hearted-man-warleader-ft-.html . It's not an exact proxy but it does look very cool, and the pose is a lot nicer. Other than that I would say to keep an eye out for 3D prints. I hope this helps. That is a great Idea, we could do a video about wargear/ mounting proxy options. Thanks.
@koen0th
@koen0th Жыл бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 thanks for the tips! I know of unreleased miniatures and have been wanting to order at some point in the future, problem is they have so much stuff I want that it's a bit overwhelming. I'll get some eventually. I would be happy to send you some pictures, do you prefer work in progress pictures rather than after painting?
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
@@koen0th happy to take a look at anything you send over :)
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
@@koen0th Either way works for me, whichever way you would like to send them :)
@thegreatskinkpriest8104
@thegreatskinkpriest8104 8 ай бұрын
The conversion work is just insane. I do wish there had been a bit more mixing and matching between kits, it kinda fel like you were just combining two at a time rather than using bits from all 5. And while I understand that you’re just sticking with your Sauron paint scheme, these “black” Numenoreans sure have a lot of white. Regardless,awesome video
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Bud. Yeah, that was the intention but unfortunately the scale would have been slightly off between some of the kits so I changed plans on the fly. What are you working on?
@5stardiscgolf746
@5stardiscgolf746 Жыл бұрын
You do Goblin Mercenaries next.
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I made some Goblin mercenaries a few months ago. I didn't film the process though unfortunately. I could make a video on it or if you wanted to see them I could send you some pictures
@stoatnam450
@stoatnam450 Жыл бұрын
For black Numenoreans, because I really don't like the use of plate armor in the movies for Gondor, and because they're derived from the same stock as Gondor, I mainly use WGA late Romans for that lovely maille body. Then a headswap and the red eye on the shield and they're sound for Corsairs.
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome mate, have you got any pics you would want to share in the discord? discord.gg/KP33se62
@CapitanCorner
@CapitanCorner Жыл бұрын
Awesome conversions! I really love your creativity. The black numenoreans look awesome. One thing I would critisise is that the broken shields make no sense at all. Why should the elite of Sauron fight with broken equipment? :D I mean they weir the best chainmail and plate armour but then broken shields haha. The shield at the back thing is a practical conversion thing, thats clear. Still freaking cool project and i love your color sceme with red and white also. From a competetive standpoint black nums are on of the best troops in the game, 9p are to cheap. I played 16 tournaments so far and black nums are always in my barad dur and mordor army. Sure thing black nums alone with sauron are a bit slow. Saurons 18 inch magic and the marsh of the black marshall helps with skirmish and races to the objective. In combat are black nums tough to charge and to kill. Saurons can kill everything. Just shield with the black nums, let your heroes do the killing.
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Maybe the shields were broken in the battle and they didn't have time to fix them? The idea was to show that they didn't care anymore about their appearance. But I just went for the rule of cool to be honest :) Thanks for the play tips, I will keep them in mind when I finally get to use them on the battlefield.
@CapitanCorner
@CapitanCorner Жыл бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 Rule of cool always counts haha. On and off the battlefield. Keep up the good work. The vids from you guys are awesome! :)
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
@@CapitanCorner Thanks dude, will do! I am working on another big project now. I won't spoil the surprise but its dwarven and horned. ] What are you working on right now?
@CapitanCorner
@CapitanCorner Жыл бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 Sounds like Iron Hills Goat Riders :D I am working on my alternative Arnor army 😎
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
@@CapitanCorner I cannot confirm or deny this :) Very cool, what are you using got the alternative Arnor army?
@thecondorflyght8964
@thecondorflyght8964 Ай бұрын
Love the work you've done here. Unfortunately, I don't actually like the models Games Workshop made for the Black Numenoreans; they look too warhammer fantasy to me. My favourite are the variants with the iron skull masks, as they look similar to the ones from rise of the Witch King, and are also trying to hide their old identities.
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Ай бұрын
Thanks buddy. It was a blast to make them all. The Skull ones were a lucky accident :) Do you think you would consider kit-bashing some BNs?
@thecondorflyght8964
@thecondorflyght8964 Ай бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 absolutely. I've thought of the variations from Rise of the Witch King (who may have to be renamed "Black Arnoreans") using frostgrave cultists and some other bits, to get that leathery cold look. Possibly with some Perry Miniatures to get the two handed swords.
@kristolo9173
@kristolo9173 Жыл бұрын
troll conversions?
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
That's a good idea! I have two ideas that I might try to bring in before the end of the year (or early next year). 1. Hill Troll conversions for my Angmar army. This is so they look more like Burdur and less like cave trolls. 2. Converting Bill, Bert and Tom to be Stone Giants.
@muesliman100
@muesliman100 Жыл бұрын
Definitely wanna see the hill trolls
@windrushwargamers2745
@windrushwargamers2745 Жыл бұрын
@@muesliman100 Consider it done! I will cover it in a few months. I have some projects to get out of the way first. But I have all the components already :) Do you have an Angmar army?
@muesliman100
@muesliman100 Жыл бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 no, not yet, I'm a bit put off by the bad reputation of Angmar as a "nasty opponent" army, but if I just don't focus on the nasty bits or play it at competitive events I think I can get away with it. I might just get the Mordor battle host once it comes out because it is practically an Angmar box
@muesliman100
@muesliman100 Жыл бұрын
@@windrushwargamers2745 I always liked the trolls in the Angmar faction in BFME II: rise of the witch king game which had the different kinds of trolls, I might try to take some inspiration from there if I get to it. I think one of those had pickaxes, that could be pretty solid on a cave troll
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