Nitscke and Csonka are good adds! I think I already had Largent in the Just Missed list. Would you put him any of them in top 12? And if so, who do you bounce out?

@@DavidGonos Nitschke in , Bilitnikoff out. I won't quabble with the rest. Solid list

@@thewaxpackdad cool, btw, I’m looking forward to your 1975 Topps baseball pack opening!

Hahahahaha definitely

And he knew when to retire. Good health probably.

@@Al-ImprovEd2022 Absolutely! Thanks for commenting and watching!

That’s an insane Joe Namath card story! Very awesome, Ken, thank you for sharing that! Holy smokes!

Thanks, Victor - I won’t argue against that. Good call.

Wow! Nice collection, J Mag! Are there bad creases in the Bradshaw? Even a 2 is pretty good! I got a mini-helmet signed by Mean Joe Greene, and at the card show he was signing at, his handler said, “Mr. Greene will not sign it “Mean” Joe Greene, so please don’t ask him.” And the first thing I thought was, “Dang! Joe really IS mean!” Haha

Thanks for dropping some vintage football knowledge, Richard. What do one of those babies cost?

I sold a PSA 1 Nagurski earlier this year for $7,200.

@@richardprice8951 You sold the Holy Grail?

I did, but I still own a PSA 4.

Thank you, Chuck! Please tell our viewers what you do on your channel!

@@DavidGonos I am a long-time collector with a great collection of cards, I do reveals and show cards of my collection. I am new to making videos and have a lot of things to share with other collectors so if you want to see what I collected over the past 50 years check out my channel. My top 50 cards video will give you an idea of what I collect.

Thanks, Rick! Wow, that’s very much appreciated!

Yeah, a few people pointed out that I blew it not having Butkus on there. I agree - he should be on there over Biletnikoff. Thanks for watching and commenting, Tom!

Haha thanks - he’d be awesome, right? Haha

Thanks buddy, do you collect old football cards?

@@DavidGonos Not really...mostly baseball cards!!!

Yep, agreed. Thanks for watching, Justin!

While he was a great end, part of the Fearsome Foursome, and great at being a neighbor on “Little House On the Prairie,” I don’t think his hobby value eclipses anyone in this list. He was a good announcer, too!

Thanks, DT!

Unfortunately, that’s too far out of the scope for this project. We’re trying to list Collectable players since Topps started making football cards, who can still be purchased by budget-conscious collectors. Thank you for watching and commenting though, David.

Thank you for commenting! Which are your favorite cards?

Good input, Cheddah! Biletnikoff appears to be the one most people would kick to the curb for their replacement. Thanks for watching and commenting!

Well, that’s good!

He’s a great one, for sure. This video isn’t about greatness tho, it’s about collectability, and Ditka has more because of both his work on the field, the love of a major market, tv recognition and other factors. I ain’t hating on Alworth, tho!

Great list of bonus QBs! Grogan is an interesting one - maybe for New England fans?

Also, I’m a Syracuse fan, so I’m definitely an Art Monk fan!

@@DavidGonos well to me he was tough as nails, the man took hits behind that bad o-line and still balled out. plus he and jeff george threw the cleanest tight deep balls that i've ever seen. they don't get credit because of the teams they were on but if they were playing today they would be legends. plus grogan could run. he to me was what josh allen is now.

@@DavidGonos New England fans never saw him, because the team was so bad back then they blackout the games. a true fan had to listen to the games. i'm a raiders fan but i do live here so they were my 2nd team. so you know the tuck rule game hurts and that's why i'm not a brady fan. that and also i liked drew bledsoe too.

Unfortunately, defensive players aren’t loved in the hobby. Just like offensive linemen. Butkus and Greene made my Just Missed list tho!

@@DavidGonos For the most part you're right but Butkus's 1966 rookie is worth quite a bit more than Fred B's 1965 rookie; so Butkus is loved and more collectible than Fred B. And Joe Green's rookie also has excellent value; so those 2 are the exception. That's why I would replace Fred B and Ditka with Butkus and Green

@@888strummer I think I just answered this one, but basically, this list looks deeper than just the rookie card, as in more years. Thanks for commenting and watching, 888!

Thanks, Ron! Defensive players just don’t get that Hobby Love like they should! I like both of those guys, for sure! More Bears and Steelers!

@@DavidGonos I just posted I would also put Butkus and Green on your list and then I read through the comments which is always and seen this comment which had the same 2 players. Butkus is more collectible than Fred B. Butkus's 1966 Topps rookie card in PSA 6 is a $550+ card. Fred B's 1965 Topps rookie card is a $350+ card. Joe Green's 1971 Topps rookie is a $325+ card in a PSA 7, so there are defensive players in demand.

@@888strummer Ahh thanks, I look at more than the rookie card when I do these lists, and I judge with what a collector’s grade of that card from that year would be compared to others. From what I showed, Biletnikoff had more valuable cards in non-rookie years in collector’s grade than the others you mentioned. But Butkus was my last cut, I believe. And I’d love to have his rookie card along with Mean Joe! Haha! At any rate, I appreciate your input - and there are definitely a large percentage of people that agree with you over me! I should’ve made it a top 15! Haha

@@DavidGonos I like your videos and for the most part it's offensive players who are most collectible and especially qb's. But you are factually wrong here comparing Butkus to Fred B. The numbers don't lie and in "collectors grade", which really means PSA; Butkus is clearly more collectible. Not only is his rookie card a year newer, but worth 50% more as I showed you($550 to $350) but so are all his other cards. Jumping to a random year like1968; a Fred B PSA 8 is a $120 type card and a Butkus PSA 8 from the same year is a $300+ type card. That's Butkus's 3rd year and Fred B's 4th year yet Butkus is worth triple. Anyway; thanks for making videos. You're on my top 5 list for KZfaq card videos!

@@888strummer First off, I very much appreciate the debate, and how there weren’t any “you must be smoking a crack pipe” comments! Secondly, you are absolutely right! The only thing I can think of that I did when I ran the numbers was that I didn’t include Philadelphia cards, like I didn’t include bowman cards for the baseball one. But Butkus’ numbers definitely bear out being more valuable over a longer period than Biletnikoff’s! Finally, when we say “Collector’s Grade,” that refers to - not the company - but that the grade is one above the decade of the card. So in Butkus’ case, a PSA 7 for a card from the ‘60s. A card from the ‘80s would mean the collectors grade would be a PSA 9, etc. Thanks again for the lively, civil debate - you are absolutely right (and I don’t acquiesce very often!), but I’m not redoing this video. Hahahahhahaa! Hopefully, people will see your comments! Actually, I know what I’ll do, I can make a short based around your comment - kinda like agent a newspaper publishes a retraction! Not great, but it’s still something! Thanks for watching and commenting with well-seasoned words!

Two legends for sure. Who on the list would you replace with them?

@@DavidGonos gale and fred

Love those guys, but they just didn’t hold much hobby love from the community through their career.

Thanks, Robert! Who would you replace in the top 12?

Great players, but they just don’t meet the criteria set out in the video. Thanks Adam!

Why?

I just looked - it was literally the first card listed in a search for 1968 Topps Joe Namath PSA 7 - Buy It Now for $249 - thanks for trying out, Mike! www.ebay.com/itm/195443499381?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=iX0sZgy4TS2&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=SwGqx-mvR-y&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Mike, did you end up buying that Namath worth $250 I found for you? If not, there are a handful more worth less than that.

@@DavidGonos if you can find a center 1968 Joe Namath PSA 7 for 250 bucks or less buy it I'll send you $325

@@mikeaustin1323 ahhhhh so we’ve changed it up, I see! Doesn’t just have to be a PSA 7 now. Haha

@@DavidGonos hey Mr gonads if you looked at the original comment I said the 1968 name if that's a PSA 7 so you don't have to reply to me there's no way in the world you can get a PSA 7 for 250 bucks put down the crack pipe and don't bother replying to me and I won't bother watching your channel anymore have a nice day